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"Al Reid"

18/11/2003 12:32 PM

Hardwood Prices

Is $2.85 USD/BF reasonable for kiln dried 4/4 rough sawn Red Oak?

--
Al Reid

"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know
for sure that just ain't so." --- Mark Twain



This topic has 18 replies

KC

"Keith Carlson"

in reply to "Al Reid" on 18/11/2003 12:32 PM

19/11/2003 4:19 AM

"N Bozovich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Al -
> If you're in Pittsburgh and don't minding driving a couple of hours to
> Duncansville (east of the 'Burgh & north of Bedford on the Turnpike),
> try Mountain Lake Lumber. I don't have their phone number with me,
> but they're in the book - or, try the "Yellow Pages" on Yahoo!. I
> bought 8" wide 4/4 red oak from him for $1.50/bf. Plus, he has
> Cherry, and other species too. He had some really good Ash (6/4) for
> $1.80 bf. He's also got white oak, and a good selection of other
> stuff. He's just a one man operation. He has a band mill, and a
> kiln, so he can do custom stuff too.
>
> Nice guy on top of all that -
>
> Nick B

What grade of red oak are ya talking about? Curious here because I bought
rough-sawn for $.75/bf, but that had a lot of small knots and wormholes (I
think - small holes about 2mm diameter). I'd guess about 1/3 of it is clear
wood that I'd use on exposed surfaces.

nN

[email protected] (N Bozovich)

in reply to "Al Reid" on 18/11/2003 12:32 PM

18/11/2003 6:05 PM

Al -
If you're in Pittsburgh and don't minding driving a couple of hours to
Duncansville (east of the 'Burgh & north of Bedford on the Turnpike),
try Mountain Lake Lumber. I don't have their phone number with me,
but they're in the book - or, try the "Yellow Pages" on Yahoo!. I
bought 8" wide 4/4 red oak from him for $1.50/bf. Plus, he has
Cherry, and other species too. He had some really good Ash (6/4) for
$1.80 bf. He's also got white oak, and a good selection of other
stuff. He's just a one man operation. He has a band mill, and a
kiln, so he can do custom stuff too.

Nice guy on top of all that -

Nick B


"Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> For that price it may be worth the drive from just south of the 'Burgh. Do you have a name and address for that supplier?
>
> --
> Al Reid
>
> "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know
> for sure that just ain't so." --- Mark Twain
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > Al,
> >
> > In the Erie PA area I just bought rough sawn red oak for $1.70 a board foot.
> > In my case, I only purchased less than 20 board feet.
> >
> > TEF
> >
> >
> > "Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Eddie,
> > >
> > > Where in Ohio are they? I live in W.PA.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Al Reid
> > >
> > > "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you
> know
> > > for sure that just ain't so." --- Mark Twain
> > >
> > > "Diane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > > > Hartville Hardware in Ohio is having their tool sale this week and they
> have
> > > > oak in 100bf bundles for $ 2.19/bf. I have 200 BF @ @1.89/bf but I had
> to
> > > > drive 2 hours.
> > > >
> > > > Eddie
> > > > "Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > Is $2.85 USD/BF reasonable for kiln dried 4/4 rough sawn Red Oak?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Al Reid
> > > > >
> > > > > "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what
> you
> know
> > > > > for sure that just ain't so." --- Mark Twain
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

nN

[email protected] (N Bozovich)

in reply to "Al Reid" on 18/11/2003 12:32 PM

19/11/2003 2:42 PM

Keith -
This stuff is F&S (?- Firsts & Seconds)no knot holes, no splits on the
ends. It's good clear lumber, but rough sawn. He also has some
lesser grades, but charges less for them.

"Keith Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<%aCub.241408$HS4.2111109@attbi_s01>...
> "N Bozovich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Al -
> > If you're in Pittsburgh and don't minding driving a couple of hours to
> > Duncansville (east of the 'Burgh & north of Bedford on the Turnpike),
> > try Mountain Lake Lumber. I don't have their phone number with me,
> > but they're in the book - or, try the "Yellow Pages" on Yahoo!. I
> > bought 8" wide 4/4 red oak from him for $1.50/bf. Plus, he has
> > Cherry, and other species too. He had some really good Ash (6/4) for
> > $1.80 bf. He's also got white oak, and a good selection of other
> > stuff. He's just a one man operation. He has a band mill, and a
> > kiln, so he can do custom stuff too.
> >
> > Nice guy on top of all that -
> >
> > Nick B
>
> What grade of red oak are ya talking about? Curious here because I bought
> rough-sawn for $.75/bf, but that had a lot of small knots and wormholes (I
> think - small holes about 2mm diameter). I'd guess about 1/3 of it is clear
> wood that I'd use on exposed surfaces.

Nn

Nova

in reply to "Al Reid" on 18/11/2003 12:32 PM

19/11/2003 2:19 AM

Tom Kohlman wrote:

> ...clue needed...where in CT? Tired of $6+ in NY (and have actually worked
> out a deal with my firewood supplier to sell me 7' logs with absolutely no
> idea of how I'm going to make usable boards out of them but more that a few
> are on their way). CT ain't that far from here.

Hi Tom,

If you're near Windsor, CT and can use oak "shorts" ping me off line.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)

Rs

"Rumpty"

in reply to "Al Reid" on 18/11/2003 12:32 PM

18/11/2003 1:24 PM

If it's FAS and straight, yes, if you can pick through the pile even better.

--

Rumpty

Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start

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"Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is $2.85 USD/BF reasonable for kiln dried 4/4 rough sawn Red Oak?
>
> --
> Al Reid
>
> "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you
know
> for sure that just ain't so." --- Mark Twain
>
>
>

TK

"Tom Kohlman"

in reply to "Al Reid" on 18/11/2003 12:32 PM

19/11/2003 2:12 AM

...clue needed...where in CT? Tired of $6+ in NY (and have actually worked
out a deal with my firewood supplier to sell me 7' logs with absolutely no
idea of how I'm going to make usable boards out of them but more that a few
are on their way). CT ain't that far from here.

"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:32:53 -0500, "Al Reid"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Is $2.85 USD/BF reasonable for kiln dried 4/4 rough sawn Red Oak?
>
>
> It is in Connecticut!
>
> Barry

t

in reply to "Al Reid" on 18/11/2003 12:32 PM

18/11/2003 6:40 PM

Al,

In the Erie PA area I just bought rough sawn red oak for $1.70 a board foot.
In my case, I only purchased less than 20 board feet.

TEF


"Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Eddie,
>
> Where in Ohio are they? I live in W.PA.
>
> --
> Al Reid
>
> "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you
know
> for sure that just ain't so." --- Mark Twain
>
> "Diane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Hartville Hardware in Ohio is having their tool sale this week and they
have
> > oak in 100bf bundles for $ 2.19/bf. I have 200 BF @ @1.89/bf but I had
to
> > drive 2 hours.
> >
> > Eddie
> > "Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Is $2.85 USD/BF reasonable for kiln dried 4/4 rough sawn Red Oak?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Al Reid
> > >
> > > "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what
you
> > know
> > > for sure that just ain't so." --- Mark Twain
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Ba

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

in reply to "Al Reid" on 18/11/2003 12:32 PM

19/11/2003 11:58 AM

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 02:12:15 GMT, "Tom Kohlman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>...clue needed...where in CT? Tired of $6+ in NY

http://www.harrisent.com/PLLumber.html

http://www.cwghardwoodoutlet.com/hardwood/product.shtml


Barry

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to "Al Reid" on 18/11/2003 12:32 PM

18/11/2003 8:05 PM

It depends on the grade...

FAS is running about that price
#1 common is .50 less
#2 common is 1.00 less

If it's air dried or green cut, probably about .75 - 1.00 a BF.

Some small saw mills also don't do much in the way of grading
their lumber, so what you get might not be worth any of the
above prices.

If you bought 100bf that causes another price shift..(down)

If you bought less than 100bf that causes a upward price shift.

It also depends on "where" in the world you are.

So to answer your question, "it depends".



Al Reid wrote:

> Is $2.85 USD/BF reasonable for kiln dried 4/4 rough sawn Red Oak?
>

fF

[email protected] (Fred the Red Shirt)

in reply to "Al Reid" on 18/11/2003 12:32 PM

19/11/2003 7:00 AM

"Tom Kohlman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> ...clue needed...where in CT? Tired of $6+ in NY (and have actually worked
> out a deal with my firewood supplier to sell me 7' logs with absolutely no
> idea of how I'm going to make usable boards out of them but more that a few
> are on their way). CT ain't that far from here.
>

Depending onthe species you may be able to use wedges to quarter
the logs, then drawknife off the raggedly parts to get something
that can fit on a bandsaw depending on just how big the logs
and the bandsaw are.

ALso depends on if you have a bandsaw and can find a drawknife.

BTW, about a year ago I was at a lumber yard and one of the guys
there was cutting (I forget what they're called but they looked
like shelf brackets on steroids) out of 4" thick stock using a
hand held bandsaw. This had a table on it like a stationary band
saw but was used 'upside down' with the table resting on the
board rather than vice-versa. My first thought was Yegads what
a dangerous tool. I could imagine accidently dropping it
and cutting my foot off at the ankle.

My second thought was to wonder how big these guys get and if
one could be adapted for a home-built bandsaw mill. I've used
a chainsaw mill and even with a ripping blade they cut pretty
slow. A bansaw blade takes a much narrower kerf and so should
cut faster.

Any thoughts? This was a bandsaw, not a reciprocating saw.

--

FF

fF

[email protected] (Fred the Red Shirt)

in reply to "Al Reid" on 18/11/2003 12:32 PM

19/11/2003 1:16 PM

"Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Eddie,
>
> Where in Ohio are they? I live in W.PA.
>
13163 Market Ave N, Hartville, OH, 44632-9065

I keep meaning to check them out somethime but never have.
Hartville, Ohio, is close enough to the Ohio turnpike to have
a sign for Hartville at the appropriate exit which is somewhere
a bit east of Warren.

--

FF

fF

[email protected] (Fred the Red Shirt)

in reply to "Al Reid" on 18/11/2003 12:32 PM

20/11/2003 8:38 AM

[email protected] (Fred the Red Shirt) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > Eddie,
> >
> > Where in Ohio are they? I live in W.PA.
> >
> 13163 Market Ave N, Hartville, OH, 44632-9065
>
> I keep meaning to check them out somethime but never have.
> Hartville, Ohio, is close enough to the Ohio turnpike to have
> a sign for Hartville at the appropriate exit which is somewhere
> a bit east of Warren.

My bad, they are actually southeast of Akron according to MapQuest.

http://www.hartvilletool.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=1e934d8cb7d0e6b45d6b889ff9e7d51a

--

FF

Dr

"Diane"

in reply to "Al Reid" on 18/11/2003 12:32 PM

18/11/2003 5:49 PM

Hartville Hardware in Ohio is having their tool sale this week and they have
oak in 100bf bundles for $ 2.19/bf. I have 200 BF @ @1.89/bf but I had to
drive 2 hours.

Eddie
"Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is $2.85 USD/BF reasonable for kiln dried 4/4 rough sawn Red Oak?
>
> --
> Al Reid
>
> "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you
know
> for sure that just ain't so." --- Mark Twain
>
>
>

Ba

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

in reply to "Al Reid" on 18/11/2003 12:32 PM

19/11/2003 1:06 AM

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:32:53 -0500, "Al Reid"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Is $2.85 USD/BF reasonable for kiln dried 4/4 rough sawn Red Oak?


It is in Connecticut!

Barry

AR

"Al Reid"

in reply to "Al Reid" on 18/11/2003 12:32 PM

18/11/2003 1:03 PM

Eddie,

Where in Ohio are they? I live in W.PA.

--
Al Reid

"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know
for sure that just ain't so." --- Mark Twain

"Diane" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Hartville Hardware in Ohio is having their tool sale this week and they have
> oak in 100bf bundles for $ 2.19/bf. I have 200 BF @ @1.89/bf but I had to
> drive 2 hours.
>
> Eddie
> "Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Is $2.85 USD/BF reasonable for kiln dried 4/4 rough sawn Red Oak?
> >
> > --
> > Al Reid
> >
> > "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you
> know
> > for sure that just ain't so." --- Mark Twain
> >
> >
> >
>
>

AR

"Al Reid"

in reply to "Al Reid" on 18/11/2003 12:32 PM

18/11/2003 1:57 PM

For that price it may be worth the drive from just south of the 'Burgh. Do you have a name and address for that supplier?

--
Al Reid

"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know
for sure that just ain't so." --- Mark Twain

<[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Al,
>
> In the Erie PA area I just bought rough sawn red oak for $1.70 a board foot.
> In my case, I only purchased less than 20 board feet.
>
> TEF
>
>
> "Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Eddie,
> >
> > Where in Ohio are they? I live in W.PA.
> >
> > --
> > Al Reid
> >
> > "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you
> know
> > for sure that just ain't so." --- Mark Twain
> >
> > "Diane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > > Hartville Hardware in Ohio is having their tool sale this week and they
> have
> > > oak in 100bf bundles for $ 2.19/bf. I have 200 BF @ @1.89/bf but I had
> to
> > > drive 2 hours.
> > >
> > > Eddie
> > > "Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Is $2.85 USD/BF reasonable for kiln dried 4/4 rough sawn Red Oak?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Al Reid
> > > >
> > > > "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what
> you
> > > know
> > > > for sure that just ain't so." --- Mark Twain
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Ee

"Erik"

in reply to "Al Reid" on 18/11/2003 12:32 PM

18/11/2003 6:42 PM

Advantage Lumber has it for $2.60 http://tinyurl.com/vlyq
West Penn has it for $2.70 http://tinyurl.com/vlyu
I'm sure freight is added ;(

--
Erik "Grumpa" Ahrens
Apprentice Termite
I'd much rather be hammered than nailed 8~)


"Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
| Is $2.85 USD/BF reasonable for kiln dried 4/4 rough sawn
Red Oak?
|
| --
| Al Reid
|
| "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble.
It's what you know
| for sure that just ain't so." --- Mark Twain
|
|
|

AR

"Al Reid"

in reply to "Al Reid" on 18/11/2003 12:32 PM

20/11/2003 11:54 AM

Thanks!

--
Al Reid

"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know
for sure that just ain't so." --- Mark Twain

"Fred the Red Shirt" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (Fred the Red Shirt) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > "Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > > Eddie,
> > >
> > > Where in Ohio are they? I live in W.PA.
> > >
> > 13163 Market Ave N, Hartville, OH, 44632-9065
> >
> > I keep meaning to check them out somethime but never have.
> > Hartville, Ohio, is close enough to the Ohio turnpike to have
> > a sign for Hartville at the appropriate exit which is somewhere
> > a bit east of Warren.
>
> My bad, they are actually southeast of Akron according to MapQuest.
>
> http://www.hartvilletool.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=1e934d8cb7d0e6b45d6b889ff9e7d51a
>
> --
>
> FF


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