1209 Multi-tool, though the question may be... Is it a special-purpose
multi-tool, and, if so, what special purpose?
1210 Library newspaper holder. Back in the time when people went to
libraries to read, and newspapers were printed on paper, this kind of holder
was clamped to the spine of a newspaper, and several newspapers were hung by
the clamp on a notched rack.
1211 Fire extinguisher.
1213 Puzzle lock.
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Might be another difficult set this week:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob
On Jan 30, 11:01 pm, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Might be another difficult set this week:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
1209. Looks like a multiplier but I'm not sure which one.
1211. Wheeled fire extinguisher. Always see them on WWII movies.
1213. I think it's a puzzle.
Thanks
Karl
"Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:00ioj.18064$v86.12380@trnddc08...
> 1209 Multi-tool, though the question may be... Is it a special-purpose
> multi-tool, and, if so, what special purpose?
Perhaps meant for climbers who want to haul as little weight as possible up
the mountain.
R.H. wrote:
> One more for this week, someone sent me a photo of a piece of hardware
> that he found in Arizona, below is his description along with a link to
> the image:
>
>
> I found several of these objects in a pile on my property. I have no idea
> what it is for. It is 2 9/19" (65MM) long, 9/32" diameter (7MM), Bullet
> shaped on one end. The other end is squared and tapered, with a 1/16" hole
> through it. It has a machined surface, as if it was made on a lathe.
>
> These items where found in a desert area near a few bent nails and a
> couple of torched-off carriage bolts. I live in a
> semi-rural area (3.3 acre lots), that used to be a ranch. They are almost
> as hard as a file, so I don't think they are an attaching hardware, as
> they would be too brittle.
>
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/album%207/_pentax13562.jpg
>
>
> -----
>
>
> Anyone recognize this thing? I'm drawing on blank on it...
>
Can't provide an answer, but it looks to be part of something else and
used for the purpose of providing an alignment or adjusting function.
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Hi Rob,
I think they are piano tuning pins:
http://www.elderly.com/images/accessories/MIPT/HDA1.jpg
Kerry
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> One more for this week, someone sent me a photo of a piece of hardware
> that he found in Arizona, below is his description along with a link to
> the image:
>
>
> I found several of these objects in a pile on my property. I have no idea
> what it is for. It is 2 9/19" (65MM) long, 9/32" diameter (7MM), Bullet
> shaped on one end. The other end is squared and tapered, with a 1/16" hole
> through it. It has a machined surface, as if it was made on a lathe.
>
> These items where found in a desert area near a few bent nails and a
> couple of torched-off carriage bolts. I live in a
> semi-rural area (3.3 acre lots), that used to be a ranch. They are almost
> as hard as a file, so I don't think they are an attaching hardware, as
> they
> would be too brittle.
>
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/album%207/_pentax13562.jpg
>
>
> -----
>
>
> Anyone recognize this thing? I'm drawing on blank on it...
>
>
> Rob
> 1213) It would appear to be a puzzle, with the object being to remove
> the key from the hasp of the lock.
>
> I think that it is done by first shoving in the broken shank of
> the other key, then using the head part to turn it, and finally
> hooking the shank by the small hole near the broken end (from
> the other side, where the hole lines up with a groove, giving
> access.)
>
> I think that the head of the captive key looks a little strange,
> and perhaps part of it unfolds to form a hook to engage the hole
> for extracting the broken shank of the key. This would allow
> the puzzle to be worked without having to bring in something
> else, such as an unfolded paper clip to extract the broken key
> shank.
One of the rules for this puzzle is that no external tools are allowed, just
the lock and the two keys provided with it. So you're correct that no paper
clips should be used, though there is no hook hidden on the captive key.
Some people consider this to be the best lock puzzle on the market.
> 1214) Perhaps to control the overlap during the construction of
> something like a lap-strake boat hull.
>
> Is there a level vial below the oval hole in the brass plate
> shown in the first view?
Yes, that's a level below the oval.
This week's answer page can be seen here:
http://pzphotosans217a.blogspot.com/
Rob
"Leo Lichtman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "R.H." wrote: One of the rules for this puzzle is that no external
> tools
> are allowed, just
>> the lock and the two keys provided with it. So you're correct that no
>> paper clips should be used, though there is no hook hidden on the captive
>> key. Some people consider this to be the best lock puzzle on the market.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> According to your description, then, it must be possible to insert the
> broken key end, unlock the lock, and then remove the broken kep part
> without
> any tools. This is how I would do it, and I assume that is the way they
> must have done it: Remove one or more of the pin tumblers from the lock,
> and cut a key that works by being inserted part way. That way you have
> something to hold on to for opening the lock and for removing the key.
>
> I think I'll make one.
I'm not going to give the answer for this puzzle, but I will say that
partially inserting the key is not the solution. Once it's been opened,
there are five moves necessary to get it back to it's original state.
Rob
"Matthew T. Russotto" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Leo Lichtman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>According to your description, then, it must be possible to insert the
>>broken key end, unlock the lock, and then remove the broken kep part
>>without
>>any tools.
>
> One photo of it shows the broken key has a key ring. It may be
> possible to use the key ring as an extractor.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/danpuzzles/danlock
>
> I would suggest removing the keyring from the head of the broken key
> and attaching it to the other part of the broken key (through the
> hole). Then insert the broken key into the lock and turn to open the
> lock, then pull the broken key piece out with the key ring. However,
> the review referenced above says there are three puzzles, and that's
> only two.
> --
> There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices
> can
> result in a fully-depreciated one.
The instructions also say that using the wire key ring to solve the puzzle
is not allowed, I didn't mention that because I left it out of my photo.
Rob
One more for this week, someone sent me a photo of a piece of hardware that
he found in Arizona, below is his description along with a link to the
image:
I found several of these objects in a pile on my property. I have no idea
what it is for. It is 2 9/19" (65MM) long, 9/32" diameter (7MM), Bullet
shaped on one end. The other end is squared and tapered, with a 1/16" hole
through it. It has a machined surface, as if it was made on a lathe.
These items where found in a desert area near a few bent nails and a couple
of torched-off carriage bolts. I live in a
semi-rural area (3.3 acre lots), that used to be a ranch. They are almost
as hard as a file, so I don't think they are an attaching hardware, as they
would be too brittle.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/album%207/_pentax13562.jpg
-----
Anyone recognize this thing? I'm drawing on blank on it...
Rob
"Kerry Montgomery" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi Rob,
> I think they are piano tuning pins:
> http://www.elderly.com/images/accessories/MIPT/HDA1.jpg
> Kerry
Thanks, I sent your link along with Leon's to the owner, I'm sure he'll be
glad to know what the pins are for.
Rob
"Leon Fisk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:01:26 -0500, "R.H."
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Might be another difficult set this week:
>>
>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> Maybe this patent for a Weed Puller:
>
> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=1293824
>
> will help clear up item number 1212 this week. It sure looks
> like an awfully close match.
>
> --
> Leon Fisk
> Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
> Remove no.spam for email
I added the patent link to the answer page, thanks. What's the world coming
to when you can't even trust people to mark their
rusty old tools accurately? ;-)
Rob
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:01:26 -0500, "R.H."
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Might be another difficult set this week:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
Hi Rob,
Maybe this patent for a Weed Puller:
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=1293824
will help clear up item number 1212 this week. It sure looks
like an awfully close match.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
1209. Looks like a multiplier but I'm not sure which one.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
1209 Might be x pi. Since it appears to have a blade, could be pie divider.
1213 A way to store a spare key so you ALWAYS know where to look for it.
Actually, this lock might open if the broken piece were inserted, and pushed
in firmly by the other part. Maybe with a little wiggling.
1214 Looks like a combination caliper/level/depth gauge for woodworking.
In article <[email protected]>,
Leo Lichtman <[email protected]> wrote:
>According to your description, then, it must be possible to insert the
>broken key end, unlock the lock, and then remove the broken kep part without
>any tools.
One photo of it shows the broken key has a key ring. It may be
possible to use the key ring as an extractor.
http://www.geocities.com/danpuzzles/danlock
I would suggest removing the keyring from the head of the broken key
and attaching it to the other part of the broken key (through the
hole). Then insert the broken key into the lock and turn to open the
lock, then pull the broken key piece out with the key ring. However,
the review referenced above says there are three puzzles, and that's
only two.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.
R.H. wrote:
> Might be another difficult set this week:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
1209 looks remarkably like a Leatherman Skeletool
http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/home_journal_news/4221370.html
1211 looks like the fire extinguishers that I used to see all over NAS
JAX when I was a kid, but I recall them being taller than 48
inches--of course was a lot smaller then so maybe it's my memory
playing tricks on me. Occasionally you'll see one in an airport or
hangar scene in an old movie as well.
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again some silly guesses from germany. this week a little late, and i
promise not having read the other postings!
1209 some kind of multi tool? can opener?
1210 used in my local café to hold newspapers
1211 red, must be a fire extinguisher
1212 no idea
1213 lock for broken hearts?
1214 tool for woodworking? maybee used to mark some distance along the edge
of a board
greetings from germany
chris
In article <[email protected]>,
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Might be another difficult set this week:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
Ayup, might be a bit difficult.
1209 -- Superficially, this looks like a beautiful (if somewhat
impractical) multi-tool, a limited-edition yuppie leatherman or similar.
However, I'll instead guess some sort of sewing machine or similar
device, perhaps to put hems on the edges of cloth in one operation.
1210 -- Clamp for bookbinding? Clamp for broom making? I'll guess
broom making ahead of bookbinding for this.
1211 -- Early fire extinguisher, presumably of the type that contained a
smallish vial of acid and a large quantity of water with a base (baking
soda or lime or lye or whatever) dissolved. In use, the vial was broken
or upset, the two mixed, and the generated carbon dioxide pressurized
the canister and sent a stream of the solution out the hose and nozzle.
On this particular model, the instructions seem to say "Lower handle to
[something]" and "push down hard on cap", which presumably is what
releases the acid.
The hose and nozzle appear to be missing.
1212 -- Sleigh runner shaper?
1213 -- I believe this to be a padlock with one of the keys broken and
the other locked in the hasp. Presumably, it's some sort of a puzzle
where the goal is to free the trapped key, and the lock operates without
recourse to the usual turning of the key by some hidden means.
1214 -- I'm sure it's ideally suited to do the things that it does,
which are intuitively obvious and require no further explanation here.
Or something like that.
Now to see other people's guesses.
--
Andrew Erickson
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
lose." -- Jim Elliot
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 15:47:14 -0500, "R.H."
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Leon Fisk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:01:26 -0500, "R.H."
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Might be another difficult set this week:
>>>
>>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>
>> Hi Rob,
>>
>> Maybe this patent for a Weed Puller:
>>
>> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=1293824
>>
>> will help clear up item number 1212 this week. It sure looks
>> like an awfully close match.
>>
>> --
>> Leon Fisk
>> Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
>> Remove no.spam for email
>
>
>I added the patent link to the answer page, thanks. What's the world coming
>to when you can't even trust people to mark their
>rusty old tools accurately? ;-)
>
>
>Rob
It is entirely possible that it worked really well for
sponge harvesting too. I don't know enough about that
profession to say for sure :)
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"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Might be another difficult set this week:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob
1209 Flip-knife/multi-tool.
1210 Library newspaper holder.
1211 Fire engine for towns with a small budget.
1212 Staple remover.
1213 Confirmed via Google Images with the keywords: Puzzles lock (or:
puzzle lock)
1214 Level with a scribe stylus and an adjustable stop.
--Dogstar
>"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> One more for this week, someone sent me a photo of a piece of hardware
>> that he found in Arizona, below is his description along with a link to
>> the image:
>>
>>
>> I found several of these objects in a pile on my property. I have no idea
>> what it is for. It is 2 9/19" (65MM) long, 9/32" diameter (7MM), Bullet
>> shaped on one end. The other end is squared and tapered, with a 1/16" hole
>> through it. It has a machined surface, as if it was made on a lathe.
>>
>> These items where found in a desert area near a few bent nails and a
>> couple of torched-off carriage bolts. I live in a
>> semi-rural area (3.3 acre lots), that used to be a ranch. They are almost
>> as hard as a file, so I don't think they are an attaching hardware, as
>> they
>> would be too brittle.
>>
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/album%207/_pentax13562.jpg
>> -----
>> Anyone recognize this thing? I'm drawing on blank on it...
>>
>> Rob
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 09:51:27 -0800, "Kerry Montgomery"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi Rob,
>I think they are piano tuning pins:
>http://www.elderly.com/images/accessories/MIPT/HDA1.jpg
>Kerry
That is really close. The "BLUED ZITHER PIN" about halfway
down on this page looks similar too:
http://elderly.com/accessories/cat_or_pgc_page?page=2&query_start=21&step=20&cat_or_pgc=MIPT&special_links=&sort_on=cat_or_pgc,artist,title
Just the image:
http://elderly.com/accessories/items/HDA1B.htm
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"R.H." wrote: One of the rules for this puzzle is that no external tools
are allowed, just
> the lock and the two keys provided with it. So you're correct that no
> paper clips should be used, though there is no hook hidden on the captive
> key. Some people consider this to be the best lock puzzle on the market.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
According to your description, then, it must be possible to insert the
broken key end, unlock the lock, and then remove the broken kep part without
any tools. This is how I would do it, and I assume that is the way they
must have done it: Remove one or more of the pin tumblers from the lock,
and cut a key that works by being inserted part way. That way you have
something to hold on to for opening the lock and for removing the key.
I think I'll make one.
On 2 Feb 2008 05:09:29 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thanks! I like the look of it -- but I still prefer my Gerber
>"switchblade" pliers. One flick of the wrist and the pliers section is
>extended.
>
> Thanks,
> DoN.
You could probably buy 4-5 new Gerber's for the same price
too, as compared to what that new Skeleton model will set
you back :)
I'll stick with my old original Leatherman and Victorinox
Boyscout models for now. They have served me well and still
work just fine.
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Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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On 2008-01-31, R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> Might be another difficult set this week:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
O.K. Since this is cross-posted, I'll say that I'm posting from
Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
1209) It appears to be, at least in part, a folding knife.
I'm not sure whether the rest of it is some form of combination
tool, or forms some kind of hand guard for fighting. I hope
that you'll post a photo of it unfolded in the answers section.
1210) This looks like a device designed to stretch fabrics while they
are drying. From the size, I would think that it might be for
something like a shawl, but I'm not sure.
1211) Some form of fire extinguisher -- and I think that I see
a matching colored spot under it to show where it should be
replaced when it is used or recharged.
1212) Perhaps part of a plow? (Assuming that it is steel or cast
iron, not wood.)
1213) It would appear to be a puzzle, with the object being to remove
the key from the hasp of the lock.
I think that it is done by first shoving in the broken shank of
the other key, then using the head part to turn it, and finally
hooking the shank by the small hole near the broken end (from
the other side, where the hole lines up with a groove, giving
access.)
I think that the head of the captive key looks a little strange,
and perhaps part of it unfolds to form a hook to engage the hole
for extracting the broken shank of the key. This would allow
the puzzle to be worked without having to bring in something
else, such as an unfolded paper clip to extract the broken key
shank.
1214) Perhaps to control the overlap during the construction of
something like a lap-strake boat hull.
Is there a level vial below the oval hole in the brass plate
shown in the first view?
Now to see what others have said.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 2008-02-01, Leon Fisk <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1 Feb 2008 00:59:10 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>1209) It appears to be, at least in part, a folding knife.
>>
>> I'm not sure whether the rest of it is some form of combination
>> tool, or forms some kind of hand guard for fighting. I hope
>> that you'll post a photo of it unfolded in the answers section.
>
> Don, just in case you didn't find this yet:
>
> http://www.leatherman.com/products/tools/skeletool/default.asp
>
> should answer your multi-tool questions :)
Thanks! I like the look of it -- but I still prefer my Gerber
"switchblade" pliers. One flick of the wrist and the pliers section is
extended.
Thanks,
DoN.
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On 1 Feb 2008 00:59:10 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>1209) It appears to be, at least in part, a folding knife.
>
> I'm not sure whether the rest of it is some form of combination
> tool, or forms some kind of hand guard for fighting. I hope
> that you'll post a photo of it unfolded in the answers section.
Don, just in case you didn't find this yet:
http://www.leatherman.com/products/tools/skeletool/default.asp
should answer your multi-tool questions :)
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On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:28:30 -0500, Leon Fisk
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 15:47:14 -0500, "R.H."
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Leon Fisk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:01:26 -0500, "R.H."
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Might be another difficult set this week:
>>>>
>>>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Rob,
>>>
>>> Maybe this patent for a Weed Puller:
>>>
>>> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=1293824
>>>
>>> will help clear up item number 1212 this week. It sure looks
>>> like an awfully close match.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Leon Fisk
>>> Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
>>> Remove no.spam for email
>>
>>
>>I added the patent link to the answer page, thanks. What's the world coming
>>to when you can't even trust people to mark their
>>rusty old tools accurately? ;-)
>>
>>
>>Rob
>
>It is entirely possible that it worked really well for
>sponge harvesting too. I don't know enough about that
>profession to say for sure :)
You mean sponge diving is different than muff diving?
<G>
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Might be another difficult set this week:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob
1211 Industrial mobile fire extinguisher. These were common in freight
sheds, and steamship wharves well into the 1950s.
Steve R.
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