I have a Bench Dog Protop Contractor 40-001 and am undecided which is
wisest choice for its router. It would seem that a plunge router is a
waste as is a variable speed.
My first thought would be to install the PC 690 with a separate variable
speed router control mounted on the box exterior.
Any thoughts on a router without overkill?
dcamron71 wrote:
> When I want a new powered hand tool I always check the local pawn shops.
> They have a lot of crap but also a lot of good stuff goes through
> there. I bought a DeWalt plunge router for my table at $60 when it was
> selling for $349 new. It runs perfectly and looked almost new when I
> bought it. I picked up a PC biscuit jointer in about the same condition
> for $40.
Having had a number of tools stolen, absolutely refuse to patronize pawn
shops.
There is a reason for those low prices.
Lew
<[email protected]> wrote:
> At least in my state.
I'm in SoCal, home of the thief or it would appear that way.
> I found
> out after my entire shop was stolen.
Been to that movie, it was not pleasant.
> The police weren't helpful at
> all as you might expect.
Yep.
> Now I'm slowly but surely
> trying to accumulate enough tools to build the projects I want.
BTDT.
Think positively. It provides you with an excuse to upgrade.<grin>
Lew
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:59:12 -0800, dcamron71 wrote:
> When I want a new powered hand tool I always check the local pawn shops.
> They have a lot of crap but also a lot of good stuff goes through
> there. I bought a DeWalt plunge router for my table at $60 when it was
> selling for $349 new. It runs perfectly and looked almost new when I
> bought it. I picked up a PC biscuit jointer in about the same condition
> for $40.
Great idea... thanks!
When I want a new powered hand tool I always check the local pawn
shops. They have a lot of crap but also a lot of good stuff goes
through there. I bought a DeWalt plunge router for my table at $60
when it was selling for $349 new. It runs perfectly and looked almost
new when I bought it. I picked up a PC biscuit jointer in about the
same condition for $40.
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:07:17 -0800, dale martin wrote:
> Although I'm not familiar with the Bench Dog router table and it's
> features, I would have to say some way to control the router speed is
> necessary if you plan to use larger bits, panel raising bits, etc. I
> have a Hitachi M12V plunge router permanently mounted in my shop built
> table. It was reasonably priced and plenty powerful. I added a Router
> Raizer and an Xtreme Extension for above table bit changing, both 1/2"
> and 1/4" shanks. When I have to adjust the speed I reach under the table
> and move the dial. Hasn't missed a beat in over five years of weekend
> woodworking, including a kitchen full of cabinets.
>
> Dale
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 3:54Â am, franz fripplfrappl <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I have a Bench Dog Protop Contractor 40-001 and am undecided which is
>> wisest choice for its router. Â It would seem that a plunge router is a
>> waste as is a variable speed.
>>
>> My first thought would be to install the PC 690 with a separate
>> variable speed router control mounted on the box exterior.
>>
>> Any thoughts on a router without overkill?
Thanks for the ideas and help.
"franz fripplfrappl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have a Bench Dog Protop Contractor 40-001 and am undecided which is
> wisest choice for its router. It would seem that a plunge router is a
> waste as is a variable speed.
>
> My first thought would be to install the PC 690 with a separate variable
> speed router control mounted on the box exterior.
>
> Any thoughts on a router without overkill?
I have the larger Triton. It incorporates fixed base adjustability and the
ability to plunge out of the table. It is variable speed and you want this
for the larger bits. It is easily adjusted, has above the table bit changes
and these days the Tritons are INEXPENSIVE. 4 years ago I paid $325 IIRC
they can now be had for $100 less.
Oh, and it has been hanging up side down in my Bench Dog router table since
I bought it.
On Jan 31, 6:22 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Having had a number of tools stolen, absolutely refuse to patronize pawn
> shops.
>
> There is a reason for those low prices.
>
> Lew
I can understand your sentiment but it's a lot harder to sell stolen
merchandise to pawn shops these days. At least in my state. I found
out after my entire shop was stolen. After losing my job I took
another one in the next state, 4 hours away. For 3 months I was only
able to go home on weekends. One weekend I found that my shop (30 x
30) was completely emptied. Nothing ever turned up in the pawn shops
but lots of the smaller stuff ended up on e-bay. I also found some of
it at the flea market up the street. The police weren't helpful at
all as you might expect. The only thing I had serial numbers on was
the big stuff and I've never found any of it. The insurance company
wasn't any help either. They offered me $1100 for a shop that I put
over $10k into. That was 4 years ago. Now I'm slowly but surely
trying to accumulate enough tools to build the projects I want. It's
a lot harder this time around with lower pay. Not only that but I
eventually lost my house because it was vandalized beyond selling
while I was out of town.
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:54:15 GMT, franz fripplfrappl <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I have a Bench Dog Protop Contractor 40-001 and am undecided which is
>wisest choice for its router. It would seem that a plunge router is a
>waste as is a variable speed.
>
>My first thought would be to install the PC 690 with a separate variable
>speed router control mounted on the box exterior.
>
>Any thoughts on a router without overkill?
Hmm, a 690 LRVS (variable speed included) seems to cost about $25 more
than one without.
If you are purchasing new, I don't see the advantage of using external
variable speed control vs. a router with the VS built in. I don't know
if the "quality" of the available external speed controls is
comparable to what you get built in, I personally would go for the
built in.
The main reasons for having VS is the soft start (not such a big deal
with the 11 amp 690) or for spinning larger bits safely.
A 690 is not going to handle using large router bits in a table that
much, it doesn't really have the guts to handle it, you'll need to do
it in multiple passes. Also there's the size of the hole in the
subbase. If the bit can fit in the hole in the stock plate, you
shouldn't need to slow the speed down...
On Jan 31, 5:54 am, franz fripplfrappl <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have a Bench Dog Protop Contractor 40-001 and am undecided
> which is wisest choice for its router. It would seem that a plunge
> router is a waste as is a variable speed.
>
> My first thought would be to install the PC 690 with a separate
> variable speed router control mounted on the box exterior.
>
> Any thoughts on a router without overkill?
For ease of use in a table with no other money spent on add-ons I'd
say look real hard at the Tritons.
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:09:50 -0800, Jim Weisgram wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:54:15 GMT, franz fripplfrappl <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>I have a Bench Dog Protop Contractor 40-001 and am undecided which is
>>wisest choice for its router. It would seem that a plunge router is a
>>waste as is a variable speed.
>>
>>My first thought would be to install the PC 690 with a separate variable
>>speed router control mounted on the box exterior.
>>
>>Any thoughts on a router without overkill?
>
> Hmm, a 690 LRVS (variable speed included) seems to cost about $25 more
> than one without.
>
> If you are purchasing new, I don't see the advantage of using external
> variable speed control vs. a router with the VS built in. I don't know
> if the "quality" of the available external speed controls is comparable
> to what you get built in, I personally would go for the built in.
>
> The main reasons for having VS is the soft start (not such a big deal
> with the 11 amp 690) or for spinning larger bits safely.
>
> A 690 is not going to handle using large router bits in a table that
> much, it doesn't really have the guts to handle it, you'll need to do it
> in multiple passes. Also there's the size of the hole in the subbase. If
> the bit can fit in the hole in the stock plate, you shouldn't need to
> slow the speed down...
Wise counsel. Thanks.
Although I'm not familiar with the Bench Dog router table and it's
features, I would have to say some way to control the router speed is
necessary if you plan to use larger bits, panel raising bits, etc. I
have a Hitachi M12V plunge router permanently mounted in my shop built
table. It was reasonably priced and plenty powerful. I added a Router
Raizer and an Xtreme Extension for above table bit changing, both 1/2"
and 1/4" shanks. When I have to adjust the speed I reach under the
table and move the dial. Hasn't missed a beat in over five years of
weekend woodworking, including a kitchen full of cabinets.
Dale
On Jan 31, 3:54=A0am, franz fripplfrappl <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have a Bench Dog Protop Contractor 40-001 and am undecided which is
> wisest choice for its router. =A0It would seem that a plunge router is a
> waste as is a variable speed. =A0
>
> My first thought would be to install the PC 690 with a separate variable
> speed router control mounted on the box exterior.
>
> Any thoughts on a router without overkill?
Davej wrote:
> On Jan 31, 5:54 am, franz fripplfrappl <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I have a Bench Dog Protop Contractor 40-001 and am undecided
>> which is wisest choice for its router. It would seem that a plunge
>> router is a waste as is a variable speed.
>>
>> My first thought would be to install the PC 690 with a separate
>> variable speed router control mounted on the box exterior.
>>
>> Any thoughts on a router without overkill?
>
> For ease of use in a table with no other money spent on add-ons I'd
> say look real hard at the Tritons.
I whole heartedly recommend the triton!
Andy
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