Went to the local Home Depot today to see about some MDO. They had 2x4
sheets but no 4x8. I asked the *ahem* lumber specialist, why this was and he
said he wasnt quite sure what I meant. I said "You have MDO in 2x4 sheets
but (I dont see any in 4x8. He quickly replies, "Sir the only kind of 4x8's
we carry here are treated and dont come in sheets, they're actually posts
used for like decks and things" .......I silently walked away before I did
something I would later regret!
How DO these people get thier jobs anyway.......
Jim
--
....
mttt wrote:
> I put it on a shelf and forgot about it. About a year later, I pulled it
> down and
> noticed the batteries had leaked. Eveready had a "no leak" warrantee so I
That brings back memories in of itself too. I can't remember the last time
a battery leaked. Do they not leak anymore? I've got batteries in stuff I
know have been in there for at least six years.
Those Heathkits were fun too. I built a bunch of that stuff with Dad. I
learned some fun lessons, like what happens when you solder in an
electrolytic cap backwards... :)
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> mttt wrote:
>
> > I put it on a shelf and forgot about it. About a year later, I pulled it
> > down and
> > noticed the batteries had leaked. Eveready had a "no leak" warrantee so I
>
> That brings back memories in of itself too. I can't remember the last time
> a battery leaked. Do they not leak anymore? I've got batteries in stuff I
> know have been in there for at least six years.
Oh yeah, they still leak. I've had several do so in the past several
years. Now, the environment was somewhat severe, hot garage, Tucson,
AZ.
>On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 04:21:45 GMT, "Mark Jerde"
><[email protected]> Crawled out of the shop and said. .
>>You're right, I got acronymofobiaized.
>>
>> -- Mark
Try working for a phone company. <G>
We've got SLiC, SLiM, XDSL, ADSL, HDSL, IDSL, WFA/DI, WFA/DO. WFA/C,
SLEN, LEN, DEN, REN, NNX,, NXX, POP, POS, ILEC, CLEC, NM, MACS, MACX,
BERD, BERT, CART, DTB8, SCC, SOCC, NOC, INOC, DSC, DCS, SONET, PSC,
PSOC, ISDN, POTS, LSN, LST, CST, B8ZS, AMI, ESF... I could really go
all day.
There is actually a 1000+ page dictionary for the industry!
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1578203074/qid=1065698703/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-3863855-6685463>
And for all you "Office Space" fans out there, I actually get a "TPS
Report". <G>
It's a really bad dream.
Barry
Heathkit H8 .... built one around 1968 or so while I was in the service.
Saved up to buy one peripheral at a time on a 2nd LT's pay while I waited on
orders to RVN.
T'was the beginning of the end ...
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 9/21/03
"DexAZ" wrote in message
> Heathkits were, in part, responsible for my career path. 11 years retail
> electronics sales/mgmt (yes Robert, at Radio Shack, 375 stores when I
> started & +11,000 when I left), 16 years broadcast engr and 7 yrs in
> cellular coverage/field engineering.
you're thinking of MDF, not MDO. I've never seen MDO (medium density
overlay plywood) sold in "pre-cut shelves".
My local Borgs don't carry MDO at all. I have to get it from a builder
supply at something like $48/sheet for 3/4".
Mike
"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> James D Kountz wrote:
>
> > Went to the local Home Depot today to see about some MDO. They had 2x4
> > sheets but no 4x8. I asked the *ahem* lumber specialist, why this was
> > and he said he wasnt quite sure what I meant. I said "You have MDO in
> > 2x4 sheets but (I dont see any in 4x8. He quickly replies, "Sir the
> > only kind of 4x8's we carry here are treated and dont come in sheets,
> > they're actually posts used for like decks and things" .......I
> > silently walked away before I did something I would later regret!
>
> In my local HD (Bowie, Maryland) the 4x8 MDO is in another area from 4x8
> plywood, siding, particle board, etc. For reasons known only to them, the
> 4x8 MDO sheets are over with the pre-cut MDO shelves.
>
> -- Mark
>
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 02:57:10 +0000, Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
> > Oh yeah, they still leak. I've had several do so in the past several
> > years. Now, the environment was somewhat severe, hot garage, Tucson,
> > AZ.
>
> Oh, yeah. Not any different here in Casa Grande. I keep telling myself I
> gotta make a list of all battery powered devices and change 'em every year
> and get on a same date routine - should only take about 2 hours ;-)
>
> Car batteries can make it on average about 2 years in the desert - even
> the Searz Heat Beaters.
>
Yep, I've started changing my car batteries every 24 months whether
they need it or not. The last battery I had go bad in my pick-up took
out my dashboard to the tune of $300. The cost of the repair would have
been more, but because the pickup was less than 3 years old, the Ford
dealer worked a deal with the manufacturer such that if I had some
standard routine maintenance done (transmission fluid change), I got a
reasonable deal on the new dashboard.
The damage was either caused when the battery died, or because
internal damage to the battery caused excessive current somewhere when
attempting to jump start the vehicle after the battery failed. I
decided at that point, changing batteries every couple years was
definitely cheaper than taking a chance on that kind of damage being
done in the future.
"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Silvan wrote:
>
> > Ripoff Shark makes Home Despot's people look comptent. The rocket
> > scientist in question at least realized that 4x8 referred to some
> > type of wood product.
>
> It's better now after the .com crash, but it's still unusual for me to go
> into any computer store and find folks who know more than I do. Durn few of
> them know any PDP-11 assembler, or have written TSR keyboard extenders in
> DOS, or have struggled trying to create an installer with MDAC that doesn't
> break any of Win95, 95B, 98, 98SR2, NT, ...
>
> "I dunno. Let's check their website..."
>
> Duh!
>
> -- Mark ;-)
Anybody that smart can probably get a "real" job.
Wife worked at HD for a while. They made a point of hiring trades
people. Most of them were pretty good. Trouble was, with the pay and
working conditions, most of them didn't stick around. This was a
brand new store when my wife started there. Now its not so new, in
more ways than one.
Allen
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 04:21:45 GMT, "Mark Jerde"
<[email protected]> Crawled out of the shop and said. .
.:
>Mike in Mystic wrote:
>> you're thinking of MDF, not MDO. I've never seen MDO (medium density
>> overlay plywood) sold in "pre-cut shelves".
>
>You're right, I got acronymofobiaized.
>
> -- Mark
>
hey man! if you got some wasting disease like that,,,move a bit
furthur down the bench...maybe Jums and Groggy'll let ya sit next to
them. and for God's sake, don't cough on people!
*G*
Traves
Silvan wrote:
> Ripoff Shark makes Home Despot's people look comptent. The rocket
> scientist in question at least realized that 4x8 referred to some
> type of wood product.
It's better now after the .com crash, but it's still unusual for me to go
into any computer store and find folks who know more than I do. Durn few of
them know any PDP-11 assembler, or have written TSR keyboard extenders in
DOS, or have struggled trying to create an installer with MDAC that doesn't
break any of Win95, 95B, 98, 98SR2, NT, ...
"I dunno. Let's check their website..."
Duh!
-- Mark ;-)
"2manytoyz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> electronics, was attending college for same, built a number of Heathkit
> projects, and was working every other semester through NASA's coop
program.
Ah Heathkits! Brings back fond memories. My "favorite" Heathkit experience
was with an early project. I screwed it up and it never worked. I put it on
a shelf and forgot about it. About a year later, I pulled it down and
noticed the batteries had leaked. Eveready had a "no leak" warrantee so I
packed the project up and sent it off to them. Not only did they clean up
the leakage - the darned thing actually worked when it came back! :)
Did you get the memo about the new cover sheet? I'll get you a copy of it so
you'll have one.
"dean b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> > Try working for a phone company. <G>
> >
> > We've got SLiC, SLiM, XDSL, ADSL, HDSL, IDSL, WFA/DI, WFA/DO. WFA/C,
> > SLEN, LEN, DEN, REN, NNX,, NXX, POP, POS, ILEC, CLEC, NM, MACS, MACX,
> > BERD, BERT, CART, DTB8, SCC, SOCC, NOC, INOC, DSC, DCS, SONET, PSC,
> > PSOC, ISDN, POTS, LSN, LST, CST, B8ZS, AMI, ESF... I could really go
> > all day.
> >
> > There is actually a 1000+ page dictionary for the industry!
> >
> >
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1578203074/qid=1065698703/sr=2-1/ref
=s
> > r_2_1/103-3863855-6685463>
> >
> > And for all you "Office Space" fans out there, I actually get a "TPS
> > Report". <G>
> >
> > It's a really bad dream.
> >
> > Barry
>
> Thank you Barry, I enjoyed that.
> Dean
>
> Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an
> accordion.
Actually I AM talking about MDO which is of course different from MDF. The
local HD here has MDO in small sheets but not 4x8. Thus the original post.
Jim
"Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> you're thinking of MDF, not MDO. I've never seen MDO (medium density
> overlay plywood) sold in "pre-cut shelves".
>
Fri, Oct 10, 2003, 1:22am (EDT+4) [email protected]
(James=A0D=A0Kountz) says:
Actually I AM talking about MDO which is of course different from MDF.
The local HD here has MDO in small sheets but not 4x8. Thus the original
post.
If it'd been me, I'd have asked them to special order some. But,
on the other hand, I don't shop Home Depot.
JOAT
There must be a hundred silver dollars in here. I can't handle that sort
o' money, you've gotta be in the league of lawyers to steal that much.
- J. H. "Flannelfoot" Boggis
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 9 Oct 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
"PJS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Only a little more off-topic, but not too far considering where this is
> heading...
>
> I had to return some items to CompUSA the other day and the manually
entered
> stuff into their register and after messing up (and me pointing this out)
> had to do it again. I think my credit card finally ended up correct. I did
> bring up the fact that at HD the return procedure is much easier with the
> bar-codes and all. They just looked at me.
It still blows me away that a store tha mainly deals with computers and
computer related sales has such an out of date innacurate inventory controll
system.
James D Kountz wrote:
> Went to the local Home Depot today to see about some MDO. They had 2x4
> sheets but no 4x8. I asked the *ahem* lumber specialist, why this was
> and he said he wasnt quite sure what I meant. I said "You have MDO in
> 2x4 sheets but (I dont see any in 4x8. He quickly replies, "Sir the
> only kind of 4x8's we carry here are treated and dont come in sheets,
> they're actually posts used for like decks and things" .......I
> silently walked away before I did something I would later regret!
In my local HD (Bowie, Maryland) the 4x8 MDO is in another area from 4x8
plywood, siding, particle board, etc. For reasons known only to them, the
4x8 MDO sheets are over with the pre-cut MDO shelves.
-- Mark
Only a little more off-topic, but not too far considering where this is
heading...
I had to return some items to CompUSA the other day and the manually entered
stuff into their register and after messing up (and me pointing this out)
had to do it again. I think my credit card finally ended up correct. I did
bring up the fact that at HD the return procedure is much easier with the
bar-codes and all. They just looked at me.
I did mention to them that it was amazing that a home store had better
automation than a computer store. :-) (Maybe it's because they need it
more?)
Pete
"2manytoyz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Don't feel bad, it ain't just you who's noticed this.
>
> I tried to get a job at Radio Shack years ago. I had 4 years of HS
> electronics, was attending college for same, built a number of Heathkit
> projects, and was working every other semester through NASA's coop
program.
> I was looking for a job in my off semesters. I knew the store better than
> the manager since I had bought most everything there frequently, and more
> importantly, I knew what the components were for. I was told I wasn't
> qualified as I had no sales experience. I was also told, NO electronic
> experience was required. Say what? Twenty years later, still working in
> the aerospace industry, I ran a radio repair shop on the side for several
> years, and I'm still not qualified to work for Radio Shack. When I walk
in
> and they ask, "can I help you", I usually reply "not likely, but thanks
> anyway".
>
> I suspect HD and others are no different. Stupid people need jobs too.
;-)
>
> So apparently, the sales realm has decided it would be better to talk to a
> slick know-nothing rather than a geek who's passion is what he's selling.
> Something seriously wrong with this picture.
>
> Robert
>
> "James D Kountz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Went to the local Home Depot today to see about some MDO. They had 2x4
> > sheets but no 4x8. I asked the *ahem* lumber specialist, why this was
and
> he
> > said he wasnt quite sure what I meant. I said "You have MDO in 2x4
sheets
> > but (I dont see any in 4x8. He quickly replies, "Sir the only kind of
> 4x8's
> > we carry here are treated and dont come in sheets, they're actually
posts
> > used for like decks and things" .......I silently walked away before I
did
> > something I would later regret!
> >
> > How DO these people get thier jobs anyway.......
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > --
> > ....
> >
> >
> >
>
>
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 02:57:10 +0000, Mark & Juanita wrote:
> Oh yeah, they still leak. I've had several do so in the past several
> years. Now, the environment was somewhat severe, hot garage, Tucson,
> AZ.
Oh, yeah. Not any different here in Casa Grande. I keep telling myself I
gotta make a list of all battery powered devices and change 'em every year
and get on a same date routine - should only take about 2 hours ;-)
Car batteries can make it on average about 2 years in the desert - even
the Searz Heat Beaters.
-Doug
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> It's better now after the .com crash, but it's still unusual for me to go
> into any computer store and find folks who know more than I do. Durn few of
> them know any PDP-11 assembler
>
What, no Univac? BTW, the PDP-6 (later reincarnated as the 10) had one
of the best instruction sets around - bested only by the GE4xx series.
--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> When you say GE4XXX series do you mean like the GE4010? I worked on
> that when I first got out of college. We did the front panel single
> stepping and BRU to self...remember that?
Was that the process control system? I never worked on it. I was
referring to the 415/425/435 series. That lead to the 625, which led to
Multics, which led to Unix :-).
BTW, I also have the original IDS manual for the 625, the first (despite
IBM's claims) data base management system.
--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:40:46 -0400, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Mark Jerde wrote:
>
>>> Dad. I learned some fun lessons, like what happens when you solder
>>> in an electrolytic cap backwards... :)
>>
>> LOL! I put together a Griefkit H-52 (IIRC) terminal back when 300 BAUD
>> was
>> the norm, 110 acceptable, 1200 unbelievable, and 9600 godlike. I found
>
>Heh, me too! That was the project with the blown cap, actually. It was
>hooked up to a screaming 300-baud acoustic coupler modem.
I think you guys are talking about the H19 dumb terminal kit. I built
one of these things during the weekend I moved into a dorm in the fall
of 1978 or so. I'll never forget the look on my new roommate's face
(randomly assigned, we had never met) when he saw me with soldering
iron in hand and parts all over the place when he opened the door! I
fired the thing up that evening and it worked the first time.
I think thats the only time that ever happened in my entire life! I
was up and hacking away at the university's PDP11 RSTS machine
(using my 300 baud acoustic coupler) that evening. Hard to believe
how much fun that was, considering how primitive it was compared to
what we have today.
Tim Carver
Tim Carver
[email protected]
> Try working for a phone company. <G>
>
> We've got SLiC, SLiM, XDSL, ADSL, HDSL, IDSL, WFA/DI, WFA/DO. WFA/C,
> SLEN, LEN, DEN, REN, NNX,, NXX, POP, POS, ILEC, CLEC, NM, MACS, MACX,
> BERD, BERT, CART, DTB8, SCC, SOCC, NOC, INOC, DSC, DCS, SONET, PSC,
> PSOC, ISDN, POTS, LSN, LST, CST, B8ZS, AMI, ESF... I could really go
> all day.
>
> There is actually a 1000+ page dictionary for the industry!
>
> <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1578203074/qid=1065698703/sr=2-1/ref=s
> r_2_1/103-3863855-6685463>
>
> And for all you "Office Space" fans out there, I actually get a "TPS
> Report". <G>
>
> It's a really bad dream.
>
> Barry
Thank you Barry, I enjoyed that.
Dean
Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an
accordion.
Don't feel bad, it ain't just you who's noticed this.
I tried to get a job at Radio Shack years ago. I had 4 years of HS
electronics, was attending college for same, built a number of Heathkit
projects, and was working every other semester through NASA's coop program.
I was looking for a job in my off semesters. I knew the store better than
the manager since I had bought most everything there frequently, and more
importantly, I knew what the components were for. I was told I wasn't
qualified as I had no sales experience. I was also told, NO electronic
experience was required. Say what? Twenty years later, still working in
the aerospace industry, I ran a radio repair shop on the side for several
years, and I'm still not qualified to work for Radio Shack. When I walk in
and they ask, "can I help you", I usually reply "not likely, but thanks
anyway".
I suspect HD and others are no different. Stupid people need jobs too. ;-)
So apparently, the sales realm has decided it would be better to talk to a
slick know-nothing rather than a geek who's passion is what he's selling.
Something seriously wrong with this picture.
Robert
"James D Kountz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Went to the local Home Depot today to see about some MDO. They had 2x4
> sheets but no 4x8. I asked the *ahem* lumber specialist, why this was and
he
> said he wasnt quite sure what I meant. I said "You have MDO in 2x4 sheets
> but (I dont see any in 4x8. He quickly replies, "Sir the only kind of
4x8's
> we carry here are treated and dont come in sheets, they're actually posts
> used for like decks and things" .......I silently walked away before I did
> something I would later regret!
>
> How DO these people get thier jobs anyway.......
>
> Jim
>
>
> --
> ....
>
>
>
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 23:31:07 -0400, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I just can't even stand to go in that place anymore. As soon as you walk
>through the door, you're swamped with drooling sales drones who don't know
>a capacitor from an amphitheater. Go in to buy a couple of diodes, and
>they try to sell you a cellular phone. Get ready to check out, and the
>sales drones are suddenly too busy talking on the phone to ring you up.
>
>Last time I was in there, I had to spend an hour buying one bottle of ferric
>chloride, and there were three employees and two customers in the store.
>
>Ripoff Shark makes Home Despot's people look comptent. The rocket scientist
>in question at least realized that 4x8 referred to some type of wood
>product.
The last time I was in there I had my 13 year old daughter with me.
In the course of the transacation, they asked me 6 times how to spell
my name plus they had to call someone to ask if they could sell me the
stand alone satellite receiver I wanted.
I was calm (boiling inside) and politely answered their questions and
otherwised conducted the transaction. My daughter didn't say
anything whatsoever until we got outside, then she asked me why the
people in that store were so stupid. No prompting from me. I'm so
proud. She's very perceptive.
B a r r y B u r k e J r . wrote:
> Try working for a phone company. <G>
>
> We've got SLiC, SLiM, XDSL, ADSL, HDSL, IDSL, WFA/DI, WFA/DO. WFA/C,
> SLEN, LEN, DEN, REN, NNX,, NXX, POP, POS, ILEC, CLEC, NM, MACS, MACX,
> BERD, BERT, CART, DTB8, SCC, SOCC, NOC, INOC, DSC, DCS, SONET, PSC,
> PSOC, ISDN, POTS, LSN, LST, CST, B8ZS, AMI, ESF... I could really go
> all day.
;-) I've been in computers for 20+ years (PC, VB, DB, DBMS, OLAP, VPN,
... ) including 7.5 years in the Army (BT, OCS, JMOC, ..., ETS!) & 2 years
with the gvmt (INS, VEWP, SEWP, ...). I'm also heavily involved with
biometric standards efforts (AP, CBEFF, CC, NIAP, ...). Acronyms!!!
Of course, we all know PMS stands for Pedestal Mounted Stinger or
Preventative Maintenance Service... <g>
-- Mark
I'm the one who messed up the MD[O/F]. ;-) *You* knew what you were
talking about...
-- Mark
James D Kountz wrote:
> Actually I AM talking about MDO which is of course different from
> MDF. The local HD here has MDO in small sheets but not 4x8. Thus the
> original post.
>
> Jim
>
>
> "Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> you're thinking of MDF, not MDO. I've never seen MDO (medium density
>> overlay plywood) sold in "pre-cut shelves".
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 04:10:50 GMT, "2manytoyz" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Don't feel bad, it ain't just you who's noticed this.
>
>I tried to get a job at Radio Shack years ago. I had 4 years of HS
>electronics, was attending college for same, built a number of Heathkit
>projects, and was working every other semester through NASA's coop program.
>I was looking for a job in my off semesters. I knew the store better than
>the manager since I had bought most everything there frequently, and more
>importantly, I knew what the components were for. I was told I wasn't
>qualified as I had no sales experience. I was also told, NO electronic
>experience was required. Say what? Twenty years later, still working in
>the aerospace industry, I ran a radio repair shop on the side for several
>years, and I'm still not qualified to work for Radio Shack. When I walk in
>and they ask, "can I help you", I usually reply "not likely, but thanks
>anyway".
>
>I suspect HD and others are no different. Stupid people need jobs too. ;-)
>
>So apparently, the sales realm has decided it would be better to talk to a
>slick know-nothing rather than a geek who's passion is what he's selling.
>Something seriously wrong with this picture.
>
>Robert
>
You've hit my button. I find that no store irritates me more than
Radio Schack. Your message explains the whole problem. Clerks hired
*because* they're stupid. It isn't happenstance, it's corporate
policy.......
Heathkits were loads of fun! My Dad and I built a color tv kit when I was
in High School. The first color set he owned. Tv, cabinet and stand ran
about $550 if I recall correctly. BIG bucks in '66. And that was without a
remote control. Being the eldest, I was always the "remote". Before we got
an antenna on the roof, I was also the "antenna" on nights when the rabbit
ears were acting up. Watched many "Ed Sullivan" shows with one hand holding
onto one rabbit ear and the moving the other arm, "just a little
higher...there... RIGHT there" and hanging my head around the front of the
old Zenith b/w to _try_ and watch the show. That Heath color set had 25-30
tubes in it. Couple times a year, Dad and I would pull them all and run
over to the Rexall drug or wherever (no Radio Shack in area until '69) and
test them all out. 6GH8s and 6L6 tubes were the ones that seemed most
likely to need replacing. $10-15 bucks for a handful of new tubes & I had
to listen to Dad grumble about the short life & high price of tubes, _all_
the way home. Those of you on the plus side of 50 have been there too.
When I moved out, my sister was promoted to "remote control". Did not work
as well as I, WAY to much sass and "Why me?" She fled to college and my
little brother got the job. Dad did not get a REAL tv with a REAL remote
until my brother went off to college. Mother _would not_ get up to change
channels, lower volume or adjust the color/tint. I think the Heathkit color
set was moved to his den and a big new Zenith _w/remote_ was up and running
in the living room before my brother was even half settled in his dorm.
When we first married, wife and I bought a Heathkit color set. ($360) Went
together fine but did not work right. Using their great troubleshooting
handbook we narrowed it down to trouble in the yoke. Calling Heathkit,
(fantastic C/S department) a tech had us do a couple tests not in the book
and confirmed that, indeed, the yoke itself was defective. New on arrived
in 3 days via US Mail, at Xmas time. (UPS not yet a player) New yoke
worked great and we used that set for +20 years.
Built other Heathkits over the years. Gave wife and Dad both digital
display clock kits for Xmas one year. Hers worked fine when she put it
together. Dad's never did work right. He swapped a couple parts in
assembly and fried the main chip. He never did live that down. As it was
Dad who always said, "you only need to be able to do two things to build a
Heathkit, read _and_ follow directions."
Heathkits were, in part, responsible for my career path. 11 years retail
electronics sales/mgmt (yes Robert, at Radio Shack, 375 stores when I
started & +11,000 when I left), 16 years broadcast engr and 7 yrs in
cellular coverage/field engineering.
Getting back on topic, the Heath stereo receiver I built in HS, had a
beautiful pecan case. It stood up to years of use and many, many moves.
Also, Heath tried getting into prepackaged woodworking kits not to long
before they went belly up. But was too little, too late.
Ahh, the good old days!! (3 TV channels in most areas, 4 if you had PBS!)
DexAZ
>
> Ah Heathkits! Brings back fond memories. My "favorite" Heathkit
experience
> was with an early project. I screwed it up and it never worked. I put it
on
> a shelf and forgot about it. About a year later, I pulled it down and
> noticed the batteries had leaked. Eveready had a "no leak" warrantee so I
> packed the project up and sent it off to them. Not only did they clean up
> the leakage - the darned thing actually worked when it came back! :)
>
>
>
DexAZ wrote:
> likely to need replacing. $10-15 bucks for a handful of new tubes & I had
> to listen to Dad grumble about the short life & high price of tubes, _all_
> the way home. Those of you on the plus side of 50 have been there too.
Just for the record, I'm an early 30-something (31? 32? I forget...) and
I've been there. We had a lot of hand-me-down stuff. Our first color TV
was this gigantic cabinet deal with a record player, a radio and a TV.
Gigantic ultrasonic remote control with two buttons on it. Jingle your
keys just right, and it would change channels...
We used to get replacement tubes at People's drug store. When they stopped
selling tubes, we finally caved in and bought a new TV.
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PJS wrote:
> I did mention to them that it was amazing that a home store had better
> automation than a computer store. :-) (Maybe it's because they need it
> more?)
I can top that. I buy my computers from a local store run by Chinese
people. They're good to deal with, and their prices are so good that it's
not worth fooling with mail order. They write out bills of sale by hand,
add them up with a calculator, and then give you a photocopy. They don't
seem to use computers for inventory management or anything. They don't
even have a *cash register*.
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It is very picky as to where I type my reply. If my reply is on top of a
post as this one is the checker works. If it is below the post, it does not
work..
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Leon,
>
> is your spell-checker on strike? :)
>
> dave
>
> Leon wrote:
> snip
> tha
> innacurate controll
>
Lazarus Long wrote:
> You've hit my button. I find that no store irritates me more than
> Radio Schack. Your message explains the whole problem. Clerks hired
> *because* they're stupid. It isn't happenstance, it's corporate
> policy.......
I just can't even stand to go in that place anymore. As soon as you walk
through the door, you're swamped with drooling sales drones who don't know
a capacitor from an amphitheater. Go in to buy a couple of diodes, and
they try to sell you a cellular phone. Get ready to check out, and the
sales drones are suddenly too busy talking on the phone to ring you up.
Last time I was in there, I had to spend an hour buying one bottle of ferric
chloride, and there were three employees and two customers in the store.
Ripoff Shark makes Home Despot's people look comptent. The rocket scientist
in question at least realized that 4x8 referred to some type of wood
product.
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 04:13:51 GMT, "Mike in Mystic"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>My local Borgs don't carry MDO at all.
The Berlin and Wallingford stores have a panel with samples of MDO,
along with every kind of hardwood ply you can imagine. They are
special order items.
Anything I need to special order comes from Middletown Builders
Supply, Harris, etc... I can't imagine how a BORG could not manhandle
a special order. <G>
Barry
Lazarus Long wrote:
> anything whatsoever until we got outside, then she asked me why the
> people in that store were so stupid. No prompting from me. I'm so
> proud. She's very perceptive.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
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Silvan wrote:
> Those Heathkits were fun too. I built a bunch of that stuff with
> Dad. I learned some fun lessons, like what happens when you solder
> in an electrolytic cap backwards... :)
LOL! I put together a Griefkit H-52 (IIRC) terminal back when 300 BAUD was
the norm, 110 acceptable, 1200 unbelievable, and 9600 godlike. I found out
what happens when a flyback goes south. ;-)
-- Mark
Mark Jerde wrote:
>> Dad. I learned some fun lessons, like what happens when you solder
>> in an electrolytic cap backwards... :)
>
> LOL! I put together a Griefkit H-52 (IIRC) terminal back when 300 BAUD
> was
> the norm, 110 acceptable, 1200 unbelievable, and 9600 godlike. I found
Heh, me too! That was the project with the blown cap, actually. It was
hooked up to a screaming 300-baud acoustic coupler modem.
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"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> That brings back memories in of itself too. I can't remember the last
time
> a battery leaked. Do they not leak anymore? I've got batteries in stuff
I
> know have been in there for at least six years.
I have a volt/ohm meter that I bought in 1979 and it still works fine with
the original 9 volt battery. I'd be scared to check the battery..