Never mind the fact that the previous owners not only painted, but
sanded and refinished the hardwood floors WITHOUT taking the old
baseboards off, so that the 1/2 inch along the wall is 1/16 higher than
the rest of the floor, with globs of rock hard poly everwhere. An hour
on my knees working with a chisel...
Or that I couldn't find a profile I liked at the height I need to cover
prior mistakes, so had to build my own. That was a few hours on the
router table, after I finally designed and built the jig I needed for
the job...
And that's just the dining room. The living room is next. (Shudder)
Time to stop and have a beer, while I think about how I'm going to make
the return air vent covers because nobody stocks the size that was used
40 years ago when this house was built...
djb
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During the summer, my son and I took up in 1 day and put down all new base
boards in 2 days after the ceramic tile was laid through out the whole
house. Thank goodness for good knee pads and the finish nail gun. Then
there seemed like 3 trillion feet of caulk to put down at the bottom and top
of the moldings. ;~)
In article
<[email protected]>, Ernie
Jurick <[email protected]> wrote:
> Some people....
And their kids...
;-)
djb
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In article <[email protected]>, Tom Watson
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Now, David, you must consider this to be an opportunity to make that
> wainscoting for the dining room that you've always been meaning to get
> to and , of course, that will mean replacing the casing on the doors
> as the 3/4 wainscoting should snug up to a nice 5/4 casing, so that
> you won't have that little planar problem, then again, you could use a
> backband and eliminate the step of replacing the casing but you've
> probably already established a different order of complexity in the
> trim and you will have to rip off the casing in any case and then
> there is always that nasty little element of the crown no longer being
> in proportion to the rest of the molding, so that will certainly have
> to be replaced, preferably with a four piece cornice that includes a
> dentil and an ogee rake, with a nice fat dado to set the whole thing
> off and then you must give some consideration to the window trim,
> which will seem pauce in comparison to the new casing, unless replaced
> with cabinet head stuff and we should not leave out the one inch half
> round to hide the boogers from the floor finishing...
The dining room in question is slated to have the window replaced with
French (oops... Freedom) Doors leading onto the next year deck. The
north wall will be ripped out when the kitchen renovation happens next
year or the one after. So the wainscoting is at *least* a year away
unless SWMBO decides she doesn't like the wallpaper on the south wall
after all.
Casing on the doors... You bastard! I had hoped that SWMBO had let that
one slide, but of course she leaned over my shoulder with a sweet "What
are you reading?" just as I opened your reply.
I hate you...
djb
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In article <[email protected]>, MSH <jjd@jaacom> wrote:
> Most floors get sanded without removing the baseboards.
Resulting in what I found when I removed the baseboards. Thanks for the
insight. Who'd a thunk that what I saw was real? It would be fine if I
was going to retain the profile of the existing baseboards, but sucked
rhino here, because I was *installing a new profile*. Oops, didn't I
mention that? No, I did mention that. Whew!
> You can get any size vent you want made.
I can get *anything* I want made, if it doesn't violate the laws of
physics or society and I don't get caught (in both cases). If I had
enough money, I could commission a glow-in-the-dark left-handed nose
flute, and find someone here on the wreck to build it for me or at
least track down a free plan for one...
> Try Wood Air Ventures
Think I'll try my shop, but thanks.
djb
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In article <[email protected]>, John Thompson
<[email protected]> wrote:
> There, there now. You just don't realize how GOOD you have it, compared
> to our 101 year old house.
Lived in one like that in my late teens, so I can picture what you're
facing. Thanks, I feel better now.
:-)
djb
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On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 20:18:43 GMT, Dave Balderstone
<dave***@balderstone.ca> scribbled
>Time to stop and have a beer, while I think about how I'm going to make
>the return air vent covers because nobody stocks the size that was used
>40 years ago when this house was built...
Here are a couple of my bookmarks to give you some ideas (or
INSPIRATION, as JOAT would put it.):
http://reggioregister.com/woodgrll.html
http://www.decorgrate.com/
Luigi
Replace "no" with "yk" twice
in reply address for real email address
(giving David patronizing pat on head) :)
There, there now. You just don't realize how GOOD you have it, compared
to our 101 year old house.
The baseboards are about 10" high, with some various angles and rounds
at the top to form a bead, one piece boards. Naturally, the plaster and
lath wall underneath is cracked from the nails, and the paint buildup is
very thick, so one could not just replace this baseboard with something
smaller without major rework of the wall somehow.
We have LARGE cast iron heat duct registers in the floor...I've never
seen any supplier with replacement registers that even come close. Wish
I could, got one in the kids room that needs to be covered over. Will
probably wind up making a plywood frame for it with a smaller, stock
register. Thought about machining an aluminum plate in a CNC mill at
work but not sure it'd be strong enough to hold up under an adult
persons weight.
What really burns me up though, is that the previous owners PAINTED OVER
THE STAINED TRIM! There are areas where the paint has peeled away, and
you can see how the wood (unkown) has gotten to that rich dark look only
old, stained, wood can get. There is no way I'm gonna be able to get all
the paint out of the grooves and rossettes without damage, much less
removing the original finish.
Perhaps that would be a good use for all that oak I've got, if I can
find someone with a plane/mill (?) that can use custom cutters.
Yes you mentioned a lot of things, what you haven't mentioned is wtf a new
profile has to do with the whether the baseboards were removed during a sand
job. And actually it would *not* be fine if using the same *height* base,
especially if you're too lazy to paint.
Custom vents are not much more than stocked items. Sorry for trying to help
you, I didn't realize you just wanted to whine. Have another drink.
MH
"Dave Balderstone" <dave***@balderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:070920030104510310%dave***@balderstone.ca...
> In article <[email protected]>, MSH <jjd@jaacom> wrote:
>
> > Most floors get sanded without removing the baseboards.
>
> Resulting in what I found when I removed the baseboards. Thanks for the
> insight. Who'd a thunk that what I saw was real? It would be fine if I
> was going to retain the profile of the existing baseboards, but sucked
> rhino here, because I was *installing a new profile*. Oops, didn't I
> mention that? No, I did mention that. Whew!
>
> > You can get any size vent you want made.
>
> I can get *anything* I want made, if it doesn't violate the laws of
> physics or society and I don't get caught (in both cases). If I had
> enough money, I could commission a glow-in-the-dark left-handed nose
> flute, and find someone here on the wreck to build it for me or at
> least track down a free plan for one...
>
> > Try Wood Air Ventures
>
> Think I'll try my shop, but thanks.
>
> djb
>
> --
> "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
"Dave Balderstone" <dave***@balderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:060920031418434215%dave***@balderstone.ca...
> Never mind the fact that the previous owners not only painted, but
> sanded and refinished the hardwood floors WITHOUT taking the old
> baseboards off, so that the 1/2 inch along the wall is 1/16 higher than
> the rest of the floor, with globs of rock hard poly everwhere. An hour
> on my knees working with a chisel...
I feel your pain. Our condo was put together by the El Cheapo Moonlight
Construction Company. All the woodwork is held in place with staples. I've
been slowly ripping it out, bringing the walls down to meet the floor and
eliminating all the tacky brown-painted trim. Some people....
-- Ernie
J.B. Bobbitt wrote:
> Sounds like "Barf Construction" (motto: "We just throw it up")
Hey, those are the guys Dad hired to put on his new roof.
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John Thompson wrote:
> What really burns me up though, is that the previous owners PAINTED OVER
> THE STAINED TRIM! There are areas where the paint has peeled away, and
Reminds me of a friend's house growing up. I think the '30s were a bad time
for old houses. People lost their minds.
His place had carpet over linoleum over beautiful hardwood floors, among
other crimes. Too many crimes to mention, really. I guess the stuff that
seems cheap and crappy to us today was new and exciting once, and back in
those days *everybody* had hardwood floors, but not everybody had
*linoleum* or *carpeting*, so they were showing off or something.
Or else somebody was too lazy to refinish them somewhere along the way.
> old, stained, wood can get. There is no way I'm gonna be able to get all
> the paint out of the grooves and rossettes without damage, much less
> removing the original finish.
The original finish will disappear, but I'd try 3M Safest Stripper to remove
the paint, if that stuff is still around. I used it on an old dresser with
lots of intricate bits, and I got paint out of every nook and cranny
through the careful use of toothbrushes and toothpicks and such. That goop
softened everything up great, and it was a lot less noxious than some other
strippers I've used. (I refinished with something once that made my hands
feel tingly through four layers of heavy gloves. Gack!)
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