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Rob H.

29/11/2013 2:15 AM

What is it? Set 521

This week's set has been posted:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Larger images:

http://imgur.com/a/sawaf


Rob


This topic has 25 replies

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Ted Schuerzinger

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 4:13 PM

On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:04:50 -0500, woodchucker wrote:

> Those look like tack hammers for starting little nails...
> But since the hammer size goes up, probably not..

I'm sure the nail size goes up, too. ;-)

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Stormin Mormon

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

30/11/2013 12:29 PM

On 11/30/2013 11:26 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> They've all been correctly identified this week, the answers have been posted
> here:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/11/set-521.html#answers
>
>
> Rob
>

Thanks, good ideas some folks had.
Old technology may be old, but it still
works. Hammers still drive nails.

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woodchucker

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 10:04 AM

On 11/29/2013 5:15 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/sawaf
>
>
> Rob
>

Geez love the grain on those hammer handles. Those look like tack
hammers for starting little nails...
But since the hammer size goes up, probably not..


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Alexander Thesoso

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 6:22 AM

3038 The structure sort-of looks like a sleeve gun. A quick-draw
holdout pistol that is hidden in a sleeve and somehow is spring pushed
into someone's hand. But, there are several features that make me
wonder if this is possible... It is kinda long, I don't see mounting
facilities, and there would seem to be a good chance of it self cocking
and firing if the pistol were pushed out of a sleeve.


On 11/29/2013 5:15 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/sawaf
>
>
> Rob
>

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 6:20 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>
>3038 The structure sort-of looks like a sleeve gun. A quick-draw
>holdout pistol that is hidden in a sleeve and somehow is spring pushed
>into someone's hand.


Correct


>But, there are several features that make me
>wonder if this is possible... It is kinda long, I don't see mounting
>facilities,


This was on display in a glass case, I shot the photo but didn't measure it. I
guessed at its length but I think I over estimated, so it's probably at least a
few inches shorter. I think it's probably missing a mounting strap or two.


>...and there would seem to be a good chance of it self cocking
>and firing if the pistol were pushed out of a sleeve.


Possibly, but most likely no one was really concerned about misfires with this
particular gun.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 6:34 AM

Here's another one that someone sent in that I'm not planning to post, looks
like
it might be for a key chain. Is it just for advertising, or does it have a
purpose, maybe for opening paint cans or creasing wall paper?


http://i.imgur.com/0PzETif.jpg

Aa

Aardvark

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 4:38 PM

On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 02:15:02 -0800, Rob H. wrote:

> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/sawaf
>
>
> Rob

3038 just has to be one of those spring-loaded rigs which help a gambler
(or potential muggee :-)) produce a Derringer apparently from thin air.
It attaches to the wrist and forearm, and some particular hand movement
causes the mechanism to pop out, placing the gun in the gambler's (or
potential mugee's) hand.

3042 look like some kind of panel pin hammers, the small end being used
to drive pins into the deep parts of various mouldings where the round
end could never go.



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Leon Fisk

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 3:46 PM

On 29 Nov 2013 02:15:02 -0800
Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:

>This week's set has been posted:
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>Larger images:
>http://imgur.com/a/sawaf
>
>Rob

3041 Is an ice tool. Pick + Shave + ?

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"Artemus"

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 11:47 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/sawaf
>
>
> Rob
>
It's so the head can be used as a wedge when the handle breaks due
to the grain running the wrong way. ;~)
Art

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Leon Fisk

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 4:43 PM

On 29 Nov 2013 06:20:19 -0800
Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>>
>>3038 The structure sort-of looks like a sleeve gun. A quick-draw
>>holdout pistol that is hidden in a sleeve and somehow is spring pushed
>>into someone's hand.
>
>
>Correct
>
>
>>But, there are several features that make me
>>wonder if this is possible... It is kinda long, I don't see mounting
>>facilities,
>
>
>This was on display in a glass case, I shot the photo but didn't measure it. I
>guessed at its length but I think I over estimated, so it's probably at least a
>few inches shorter. I think it's probably missing a mounting strap or two.
>
>
>>...and there would seem to be a good chance of it self cocking
>>and firing if the pistol were pushed out of a sleeve.
>
>
>Possibly, but most likely no one was really concerned about misfires with this
>particular gun.
>

If you haven't found it already, these pictures of the slide mechanism
for the old Wild Wild West Show may be of interest:

http://www.proparchives.com/television/television-pre-1970s/western/the-wild-wild-west/robert-conrad-derringer-fx-slide-the-wild-wild-west

or

http://bit.ly/18NUh60

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Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 4:52 PM

Ted Schuerzinger wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:04:50 -0500, woodchucker wrote:
>
>> Those look like tack hammers for starting little nails...
>> But since the hammer size goes up, probably not..
> I'm sure the nail size goes up, too. ;-)
>
Although I've never installed any, I thought they looked like they
might be handy for helping to install tongue-and-groove flooring.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 2:34 PM


>3042 look like some kind of panel pin hammers, the small end being used
>to drive pins into the deep parts of various mouldings where the round
>end could never go.


Yes, the owner says that they are for starting a nail in a tight spot or when
using a short nail.


Rob

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Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 2:37 PM


>If you haven't found it already, these pictures of the slide mechanism
>for the old Wild Wild West Show may be of interest:
>
>http://www.proparchives.com/television/television-pre-1970s/western/the-wild-
wild-west/robert-conrad-derringer-fx-slide-the-wild-wild-west


Good answer, since the one that I posted was also a Hollywood prop, it was used
in
the film Maverick.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 2:38 PM


>
>3041 Is an ice tool. Pick + Shave + ?
>


Ice pick is correct but the other part is not an ice shave.

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Alexander Thesoso

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 6:18 PM

I'm not a wood person. I was struck by the interesting grain pattern,
and also thought there might be an issue with grain direction...
I suspect there is more to the story.

Is there someone out there who can identify the type of wood and
enlighten us on the grain direction?

On 11/29/2013 2:47 PM, Artemus wrote:
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> This week's set has been posted:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Larger images:
>>
>> http://imgur.com/a/sawaf
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
> It's so the head can be used as a wedge when the handle breaks due
> to the grain running the wrong way. ;~)
> Art
>
>

Rr

"Robert"

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 6:34 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>>3041 Is an ice tool. Pick + Shave + ?
>>
>
>
> Ice pick is correct but the other part is not an ice shave.
>

Ice scoop


Robert

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Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 3:59 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Robert says...
>
>
>"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>
>>>3041 Is an ice tool. Pick + Shave + ?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Ice pick is correct but the other part is not an ice shave.
>>
>
>Ice scoop
>


Yep, that's it.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 4:04 PM

>> > It's so the head can be used as a wedge when the handle breaks due
>> > to the grain running the wrong way. ;~)
>> > Art
>> >
>
>I think that's tiger maple. Sometimes called fiddle back maple
>because that grain pattern makes a really nice violin back.
>I read somewhere that the unusual grain pattern is caused
>by a fungus.


I believe you are right about it being tiger maple, I took the photos but don't
remember if the type of wood was mentioned in the description that was next to
these hammers.

Dd

DanG

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

30/11/2013 9:00 AM

On 11/29/2013 4:15 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/sawaf
>
>
> Rob
>
3037. A table leg?
3038. sleeve gun
3039. Duck call or rhythm band ite
3040. for making ice cubes. Heat and set on ice block
3041. this tool was designed to work with the above to chip of cubes.
It was NOT a scoop.
3042. glorious graining on the handles. As a retired trim carpenter, I
would be hard pressed to use them for driving finish nails.

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Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

30/11/2013 8:26 AM



>3040. for making ice cubes. Heat and set on ice block
>3041. this tool was designed to work with the above to chip of cubes.
>It was NOT a scoop.




These are both correct, and you're right about it not being a scoop, the patent
calls it a retainer.

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They've all been correctly identified this week, the answers have been posted
here:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/11/set-521.html#answers


Rob

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jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@[email protected]>

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 5:44 PM



Alexander Thesoso wrote:
>
> I'm not a wood person. I was struck by the interesting grain pattern,
> and also thought there might be an issue with grain direction...
> I suspect there is more to the story.
>
> Is there someone out there who can identify the type of wood and
> enlighten us on the grain direction?
>
> On 11/29/2013 2:47 PM, Artemus wrote:
> > "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> >> This week's set has been posted:
> >>
> >> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >> Larger images:
> >>
> >> http://imgur.com/a/sawaf
> >>
> >>
> >> Rob
> >>
> > It's so the head can be used as a wedge when the handle breaks due
> > to the grain running the wrong way. ;~)
> > Art
> >

I think that's tiger maple. Sometimes called fiddle back maple
because that grain pattern makes a really nice violin back.
I read somewhere that the unusual grain pattern is caused
by a fungus.

SD

"Stanley Daniel de Liver"

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

30/11/2013 8:11 PM

On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 17:29:49 -0000, Stormin Mormon <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On 11/30/2013 11:26 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> They've all been correctly identified this week, the answers have been
>> posted
>> here:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/11/set-521.html#answers
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>
> Thanks, good ideas some folks had.
> Old technology may be old, but it still
> works. Hammers still drive nails.
>
Colloquially, a Brumagem Screwdriver.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

30/11/2013 4:26 AM

On 2013-11-29, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/sawaf

Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

3037) I see this as used to indicate the heeling tiling to one
side or the other) of a sailboat. Put the bent nail in a notch,
and the black end will point to a scale indicating the angle.

3038) Quite illegal to use (in the USA, at least), and it looks to
have been made too recently, given the clear plastic which
appears to be part of it.

A "spring gun" -- a trap intended to shoot a poacher or a
burglar. In this case, I think burglar. Not enough of it is
shown to show the details of the triggering mechanism. but the
Derringer is triggered by some motion of the box (e.g. trying to
steal it), or by tripping over a wire run into the box from the
path which a poacher would take.

It appears to have a spring system to accommodate the recoil of
the Derringer. A Derringer normally has two shots before
reloading (you can see the two barrels, one above the other), so
I wonder whether the recoil mechanism may be part of a system
for automatically re-cocking it to allow a second shot after the
first is fired.

Normally, it would be closed (more wood) to make it look like
something harmless, and perhaps worth stealing.

Or -- it it possible that it is a hidden weapon tucked up the
sleeve, and a certain motion of the hand causes it to be
extended into the grip of the owner. In that case, the glass or
plastic is not part of the device, and is just storage for it,
and likely for powder, caps, and bullets.

3039) Looks like an electrical insulator -- likely for a fairly low
voltage outdoors power line.

Is the hole through, or blind? If through, I would expect the
unglazed part to be down.

3040) Hmm ... the reservoir suggests that it is intended to keep
something warm, but the construction of copper says that it is
not going to work for very long -- too much thermal
conductivity.

The slots suggest that airflow is needed, so it is perhaps for
transporting small live critters -- mice, baby chicks, or
something similar.

No lid -- perhaps it is to rest over a double row of sprouts,
and the warmth is still needed?

3041) Part of it looks like something for killing moles or some other
subterranean critters. not sure what function the open scoop
part serves.

3042) Pretty handles. Unusual that the handles are so square.
No fork in the projection, so it serves as some form of wedge,
perhaps for opening a box -- perhaps not.

Now to post and then see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Stormin Mormon

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 9:08 AM

On 11/29/2013 5:15 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/sawaf
>
>
> Rob
>
Posting from my desk top PC in the living room, as always.

3037. This is a part of an exercise device for English
Boxer dogs. The dog sits on the wide end, and the metal
screw on the end is used to connect to an oscillating
shimmy shaft.
3038, this is a reflection of a flash camera. The metal
thing looks like a buggy spring from the horse carriage
era.
3039, this is a Korean Kim-Chee pot. Used by midgit
Koreans.
3040, poker chip holder for old time poker players.
3041, farmer's hay sampler. The combination of knife and
fork allows the farmer to take a sample out of a hay bale,
to take to Agway for moisture content sampling.
3042, type setters hammers. Used to adjust the lead spacing
bars used in type frames.

Orange: Orange you glad I didn't say "no clue" again?

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Stormin Mormon

in reply to Rob H. on 29/11/2013 2:15 AM

29/11/2013 10:01 AM

On 11/29/2013 9:34 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> Here's another one that someone sent in that I'm not planning to post, looks
> like
> it might be for a key chain. Is it just for advertising, or does it have a
> purpose, maybe for opening paint cans or creasing wall paper?
>
>
> http://i.imgur.com/0PzETif.jpg
>
Looks jalapeno shape. No known use.

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