What type plug and receptacle do you use for your 240V tools?
I have one machine with full-load at 16A. That's the limit for a 20A
breaker, and I don't want to deal with nuisance trips. So I've
installed a 30A circuit. But I didn't realize the actual size of NEMA
6-30 plugs until I shopped for them. (straight-blade type, that is)
Twist-locks are a bit more compact (NEMA L6-30). These might also be
better if extension cords are necessary, since I'm not sure yet of my
receptacle locations vs. machine placement (the shop is small, I use
mobile bases). Do any of you use twist-lock plugs and receptacles?
Are they troublesome to plug/unplug?
What do you think are pros and cons of both types? Any thoughts are
appreciated.
Thanks,
John Sellers
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:51:55 -0400, "John Sellers" <[email protected]> wrote:
>What type plug and receptacle do you use for your 240V tools?
>
>I have one machine with full-load at 16A. That's the limit for a 20A
>breaker, and I don't want to deal with nuisance trips. So I've
>installed a 30A circuit. But I didn't realize the actual size of NEMA
>6-30 plugs until I shopped for them. (straight-blade type, that is)
>
>Twist-locks are a bit more compact (NEMA L6-30). These might also be
>better if extension cords are necessary, since I'm not sure yet of my
>receptacle locations vs. machine placement (the shop is small, I use
>mobile bases). Do any of you use twist-lock plugs and receptacles?
>Are they troublesome to plug/unplug?
>
>What do you think are pros and cons of both types? Any thoughts are
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>John Sellers
With most corded (portable) tools, there are always times when the attached cord is too short and an extension cord is needed. Add
to that the fact the attached cord is also, almost always, too long to store neatly and conveniently. Therefore, as a standard
practice, the first thing I do with a corded, portable tool is cut the cord to only a few inches in length. Then, I install a
twist-lock plug on the end of the short cord. Extension cords intended for use with those tools get the standard receptacle replaced
with a twist-lock receptacle.
Advantages:
Simplified and neater (more neat?) storage of the tool.
No work interruptions due to the tool becoming disconnected from the extension cord (or wall socket)
Disadvantages:
Twist-lock plugs at the BORG are comparatively expensive.
Must use an extension cord for every use of the tool (Minor quibble since I find I need one in most cases, anyway)
In specific reference to questions:
"Do ... you use twist-lock plugs and receptacles?"
Yes, extensively, in portable tool applications. Since I have no 240v portable tools, this is only 120v usage.
"Are they troublesome to plug/unplug"
I do not find them to be so. I can't speak to 240v, but assume they would be similar
Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS USA
In article <[email protected]>, John Sellers wrote:
> Twist-locks are a bit more compact (NEMA L6-30). These might also be
> better if extension cords are necessary, since I'm not sure yet of my
> receptacle locations vs. machine placement (the shop is small, I use
> mobile bases). Do any of you use twist-lock plugs and receptacles?
> Are they troublesome to plug/unplug?
>
> What do you think are pros and cons of both types? Any thoughts are
> appreciated.
I only use twist-lock plugs because I don't want any chance of a
plug coming loose while I'm using the machine. I have no problems
with them except for the price: about $15-20 for each plug or socket.
"John Sellers" writes:
>What type plug and receptacle do you use for your 240V tools?
<snip>
I use the following for 240 VAC service with one exception, a 5 HP air
compressor which requires #8 AWG and a 2P-40A C'bkr:
2P-30A C'bkr with #10 AWG wire.
30A locking devices for plugs and receptacles.
The actual device may only have a full load of less than 10A, but so what,
that doesn't count.
The C'bkr protects the #10 AWG wire feeding the load, not the actual device
consuming the power. That is what counts.
HTH
Lew
S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures
Twist lock isn't any harder to unplug than straight plug for me. Plus,
you won't have to worry about a plug vibrating out half way
through a cut. Mark L.
John Sellers wrote:
> What type plug and receptacle do you use for your 240V tools?
>
> I have one machine with full-load at 16A. That's the limit for a 20A
> breaker, and I don't want to deal with nuisance trips. So I've
> installed a 30A circuit. But I didn't realize the actual size of NEMA
> 6-30 plugs until I shopped for them. (straight-blade type, that is)
>
> Twist-locks are a bit more compact (NEMA L6-30). These might also be
> better if extension cords are necessary, since I'm not sure yet of my
> receptacle locations vs. machine placement (the shop is small, I use
> mobile bases). Do any of you use twist-lock plugs and receptacles?
> Are they troublesome to plug/unplug?
>
> What do you think are pros and cons of both types? Any thoughts are
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> John Sellers
>
I only use this technique with the household vacuum cleaner.
Thanks for all the suggestions. I'll probably get the twist-locks -
don't want those big honkin' plugs on the tool cords.
John Sellers
"xrongor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> only if you prefer to grab the cord and shake it until it becomes
unplugged
> <g>
>
> randy
>
Go with the twist lock, I use it here and the company I used to work for
(Ontario Power Generation) converted nearly all its standard plugs outside
office areas to twist lock. One of the reasons, when you are up on a 30
foot scaffold the plugs don't just fall out on you.
Rick
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"John Sellers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> What type plug and receptacle do you use for your 240V tools?
>
> I have one machine with full-load at 16A. That's the limit for a 20A
> breaker, and I don't want to deal with nuisance trips. So I've
> installed a 30A circuit. But I didn't realize the actual size of NEMA
> 6-30 plugs until I shopped for them. (straight-blade type, that is)
>
> Twist-locks are a bit more compact (NEMA L6-30). These might also be
> better if extension cords are necessary, since I'm not sure yet of my
> receptacle locations vs. machine placement (the shop is small, I use
> mobile bases). Do any of you use twist-lock plugs and receptacles?
> Are they troublesome to plug/unplug?
>
> What do you think are pros and cons of both types? Any thoughts are
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> John Sellers
>
Go with the twist lock, safe and secure!
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:51:55 -0400, "John Sellers"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>What type plug and receptacle do you use for your 240V tools?
>
>I have one machine with full-load at 16A. That's the limit for a 20A
>breaker, and I don't want to deal with nuisance trips. So I've
>installed a 30A circuit. But I didn't realize the actual size of NEMA
>6-30 plugs until I shopped for them. (straight-blade type, that is)
>
>Twist-locks are a bit more compact (NEMA L6-30). These might also be
>better if extension cords are necessary, since I'm not sure yet of my
>receptacle locations vs. machine placement (the shop is small, I use
>mobile bases). Do any of you use twist-lock plugs and receptacles?
>Are they troublesome to plug/unplug?
>
>What do you think are pros and cons of both types? Any thoughts are
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>John Sellers