Dear All,
This is so off the wall, I cannot wait for C-less to chime in, but...
As some of you have seen, I am working on a small cherry clock right now. On
my last cherry clock I did lye dye job and I really liked the deep red
cherry look, as did the person I gave the clock to. This time though, I am
treading heavily on the Shaker tradition and I think I might end up getting
haunted if I dye the clock with lye.
I know someone who owns a tanning bed and I was wondering if I put the clock
on the tanning bed for a period of time if it would age the cherry quickly?
Thoughts?
Seeing as the sun is soon to never rise again here in the GWN until spring
again, I don't have the option of just leaving it outdoors on sunny days for
a week like youse guys down south do.
Any other options for artificially quickening the darkening process of
cherry?
Thanks,
David.
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David Eisan asks:
>
>I know someone who owns a tanning bed and I was wondering if I put the clock
>on the tanning bed for a period of time if it would age the cherry quickly?
>
>Thoughts?
>
>Seeing as the sun is soon to never rise again here in the GWN until spring
>again, I don't have the option of just leaving it outdoors on sunny days for
>a week like youse guys down south do.
>
>Any other options for artificially quickening the darkening process of
>cherry?
>
Well, a deep mahogany stain....No? When you stop screaming, I suggest you take
a couple boards and stick them in your pal's tanning bed. Make them freshly
machined and see what a few hours does.
Who knows. It just might work. Sounds at least semi-logical, anyway.
And report the results, please. Inquiring minds would like to know. As would us
nosy bastards.
Charlie Self
"Middle age is when your age starts to show around your middle."
Bob Hope
Sat, Oct 25, 2003, 8:11pm (EDT+4) [email protected]
(David=A0F.=A0Eisan) says:
This is so off the wall, I cannot wait for C-less to chime in, but...
<snip>
Well, I finally made it. Not gonna paint it, eh? LMAO
Worth trying. Been me, I wouldn't have asked first, just done it.
I would say several test pieces, with several finishes, etc. Get a
variety. At least seems a lot les toxic then lye or ammonia, and that's
always a plus. Let us know the results.
JOAT
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My bet is that UV light would work to darken the cherry, but the quality of
the color could certainly be tested with a scrap piece of the same project
under UV ... who knows, it may be what he's looking for.
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"Phisherman"wrote in message
> Don't do it, you'll likely be disappointed. Let the cherry age on its
> own for a beautiful color. I keep cherry out of the sunlight.
Howdja take a picture of a mirror without showing yer face in it?
Fly-by-Night CC wrote:
>
> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> "David F. Eisan" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > This is so off the wall, I cannot wait for C-less to chime in, but...
>
> Hi David. I ain't SansCee, but perhaps you'll take a liking to my
> response.
>
> > As some of you have seen, I am working on a small cherry clock right now. On
> > my last cherry clock I did lye dye job and I really liked the deep red
> > cherry look, as did the person I gave the clock to. This time though, I am
> > treading heavily on the Shaker tradition and I think I might end up getting
> > haunted if I dye the clock with lye.
> >
> <...>
> > Thoughts?
>
> I have many thoughts. Deep thoughts. Not so deep thoughts. Thoughts that
> will surely make me go blind. (BTW, I like those thoughts the best.) But
> I only have ONE thought when it comes to finishing cherry.
>
> Fume it. Fume it with ammonia just like you do the white oak. Then
> finish off with an oil (then varnish or shellac if desired). I guarantee
> you'll love it - or else you can just dispose of that clock by sending
> it to me so's you won't have to look at it any longer.
>
> Somewhere's around here, I gots pitchers of a fumed quartersawn cherry
> hand mirror I Valentined my wife a couple years back. Let me see...
>
> Ah yes, here you go:
> <http://users.easystreet.com/onlnlowe/misc/fumedcherry2.JPG>
> <http://users.easystreet.com/onlnlowe/misc/fumedcherry3.JPG>
> <http://users.easystreet.com/onlnlowe/misc/fumedcherry.JPG>
>
> This item was fumed about 12 hours. Don't forget what Paully would say.
>
> --
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> Offering a shim for the Porter-Cable 557 type 2 fence design.
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Gerald,
With Halloween so close you have to ask? JG
Gerald Ross wrote:
> Howdja take a picture of a mirror without showing yer face in it?
>
> Fly-by-Night CC wrote:
> >
> > In article
> > <[email protected]>,
> > "David F. Eisan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > This is so off the wall, I cannot wait for C-less to chime in, but...
> >
> > Hi David. I ain't SansCee, but perhaps you'll take a liking to my
> > response.
> >
> > > As some of you have seen, I am working on a small cherry clock right now. On
> > > my last cherry clock I did lye dye job and I really liked the deep red
> > > cherry look, as did the person I gave the clock to. This time though, I am
> > > treading heavily on the Shaker tradition and I think I might end up getting
> > > haunted if I dye the clock with lye.
> > >
> > <...>
> > > Thoughts?
> >
> > I have many thoughts. Deep thoughts. Not so deep thoughts. Thoughts that
> > will surely make me go blind. (BTW, I like those thoughts the best.) But
> > I only have ONE thought when it comes to finishing cherry.
> >
> > Fume it. Fume it with ammonia just like you do the white oak. Then
> > finish off with an oil (then varnish or shellac if desired). I guarantee
> > you'll love it - or else you can just dispose of that clock by sending
> > it to me so's you won't have to look at it any longer.
> >
> > Somewhere's around here, I gots pitchers of a fumed quartersawn cherry
> > hand mirror I Valentined my wife a couple years back. Let me see...
> >
> > Ah yes, here you go:
> > <http://users.easystreet.com/onlnlowe/misc/fumedcherry2.JPG>
> > <http://users.easystreet.com/onlnlowe/misc/fumedcherry3.JPG>
> > <http://users.easystreet.com/onlnlowe/misc/fumedcherry.JPG>
> >
> > This item was fumed about 12 hours. Don't forget what Paully would say.
> >
> > --
> > Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
> > Offering a shim for the Porter-Cable 557 type 2 fence design.
> > <http://www.flybynightcoppercompany.com>
> > <http://www.easystreet.com/~onlnlowe/index.html>
>
> --
>
> Gerald Ross
> Cochran, GA
> ...........................................
> It's always darkest before you step on
> the cat.
>
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Dear Mr. Shim,
> Fume it. Fume it with ammonia just like you do the white oak. Then
> finish off with an oil (then varnish or shellac if desired). I guarantee
> you'll love it - or else you can just dispose of that clock by sending
> it to me so's you won't have to look at it any longer.
I just might do that.
I think you might remember the QSWO clock I made that I fumed, I was quite
happy with the results. I have a recollection of wiping ammonia on cherry
and it turning it green, or maybe that was red oak, I am not sure.
I will set up a small test chamber to do a Radiomagic test.
I am making the clock for two reasons. To give as a gift to a friend who I
will most likely never see again and to write about how to build it and to
hopefully get my third magazine article published. If I do fume, I will have
to break the article into a two parter. One to build the clock and two to
finish it, which isn't too a bad thing really.
Is there anything you can remember written in any of the finishing books
about fuming cherry? I know all I need to know about how to do it to WO, but
I am just wondering what the differences, if any, there might be when doing
cherry? What is so nice about the fuming process is how deep the colour
goes, you can sand a little if necessary and not break through the colour
layer.
Thanks for the suggestion Owen, I hadn't thought of fuming. I will keep
everyone ('cept BAD, he don't like my updates) posted on what I am doing and
how things work out.
David.
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NOOOOO!
The surface'll turn ugly gray and lose a lot of chatoyance. Make sure
you've got a coat or two of cut linseed in it before you try the UV.
Nice thing about air-dried cherry is that it's already got some maturity on
the patina when you use it. KD stuff is generally steamed at the last to
relieve case-hardening, and it looks sorta muddy and light.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well, a deep mahogany stain....No? When you stop screaming, I suggest you
take
> a couple boards and stick them in your pal's tanning bed. Make them
freshly
> machined and see what a few hours does.
>
> David Eisan asks:
> >Any other options for artificially quickening the darkening process of
> >cherry?
Charlie Self <[email protected]> schreef
> Well, a deep mahogany stain....No?
+ + +
Since the idea is to pass off the cherry as a mahogany substitute this is a
method that historically is eminently correct.
PvR
On 09 Nov 2003 12:16:53 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:
>PvR responds:
>
>>> David Eisan asks:
>>> >Any other options for artificially quickening the darkening process of
>>> >cherry?
>>
>>Charlie Self <[email protected]> schreef
>>> Well, a deep mahogany stain....No?
>>
>>+ + +
>>Since the idea is to pass off the cherry as a mahogany substitute this is a
>>method that historically is eminently correct.
>
>True, but...somehow, the elegant deep red of mahogany (and cherry) ahs been
>transformed by the U.S. furniture industry into a solid black that may get 3
>drops of red pigment per 50 gallons of finish. It's not really ugly, but it's
>also not really cherry or mahogany. But, then, neither is the wood used, so I
>guess that's fair.
>
>Charlie Self
>
The cherry stains used by furniture factories look fake next to my
cherry pieces that have aged naturally over time. These factory
pieces may just as well be painted and/or made from plywood.
Recently my sister-in-law asked about the wood grain lines in my
table. She never saw naturally-aged cherry wood!
PvR responds:
>> David Eisan asks:
>> >Any other options for artificially quickening the darkening process of
>> >cherry?
>
>Charlie Self <[email protected]> schreef
>> Well, a deep mahogany stain....No?
>
>+ + +
>Since the idea is to pass off the cherry as a mahogany substitute this is a
>method that historically is eminently correct.
True, but...somehow, the elegant deep red of mahogany (and cherry) ahs been
transformed by the U.S. furniture industry into a solid black that may get 3
drops of red pigment per 50 gallons of finish. It's not really ugly, but it's
also not really cherry or mahogany. But, then, neither is the wood used, so I
guess that's fair.
Charlie Self
"Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same
function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of
things." Sir Winston Churchill
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:11:30 GMT, "David F. Eisan"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Dear All,
>
>This is so off the wall, I cannot wait for C-less to chime in, but...
>
>As some of you have seen, I am working on a small cherry clock right now. On
>my last cherry clock I did lye dye job and I really liked the deep red
>cherry look, as did the person I gave the clock to. This time though, I am
>treading heavily on the Shaker tradition and I think I might end up getting
>haunted if I dye the clock with lye.
>
>I know someone who owns a tanning bed and I was wondering if I put the clock
>on the tanning bed for a period of time if it would age the cherry quickly?
>
>Thoughts?
>
>Seeing as the sun is soon to never rise again here in the GWN until spring
>again, I don't have the option of just leaving it outdoors on sunny days for
>a week like youse guys down south do.
>
>Any other options for artificially quickening the darkening process of
>cherry?
Good Morning, David:
"Accelerated weathering tests are performed with a QUV device equipped
with spray nozzles and A-340 fluorescent light tubes. Exposure cycle:
5 hours' UV light at 60degC (black panel) and 1 hour spray at room
temperature. UV light exposure tests are performed with A-340 tubes in
dry conditions or with filtered Xenon light sources."
The above is excerpted from:
http://www.pcimag.com/CDA/ArticleInformation/features/BNP__Features__Item/0,1846,72892,00.html
Regards, Tom.
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson
Did a little research. According to Michael Dresdner, it works ... FWTW. I'd
still try it on a test piece of the project wood.
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,
"George"wrote in message
> NOOOOO!
>
> The surface'll turn ugly gray and lose a lot of chatoyance. Make sure
> you've got a coat or two of cut linseed in it before you try the UV.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Dear All,
>
> This is so off the wall, I cannot wait for C-less to chime in, but...
>
> As some of you have seen, I am working on a small cherry clock right now. On
> my last cherry clock I did lye dye job and I really liked the deep red
> cherry look, as did the person I gave the clock to. This time though, I am
> treading heavily on the Shaker tradition and I think I might end up getting
> haunted if I dye the clock with lye.
>
> I know someone who owns a tanning bed and I was wondering if I put the clock
> on the tanning bed for a period of time if it would age the cherry quickly?
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Seeing as the sun is soon to never rise again here in the GWN until spring
> again, I don't have the option of just leaving it outdoors on sunny days for
> a week like youse guys down south do.
>
> Any other options for artificially quickening the darkening process of
> cherry?
>
> Thanks,
>
> David.
David -- I did a quickie cherry-aging job earlier this year by leaving
the finished article in the sun on my driveway for a few afternoons.
This substantially darkened the cherry, though it was not a substitute
for normal aging. I rotated the object occasionally to get uniform
coverage. If it's too late for that, you might want to use the lye
method again. It's not a dye, but a sort of accelerant. If Shaker
ghosts bother you afterward you can threaten them with a can of stain.
Abe
--
Replace ONE with the numeral for return email.
All lye does is speed up the natural process; it is not a stain or
artificial color. The Shakers approved of modern technology and were very
adaptive to mass production for use by outsiders (chair factory, etc.). Have
at it!
--
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"David F. Eisan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dear All,
>
> This is so off the wall, I cannot wait for C-less to chime in, but...
>
> As some of you have seen, I am working on a small cherry clock right now.
On
> my last cherry clock I did lye dye job and I really liked the deep red
> cherry look, as did the person I gave the clock to. This time though, I am
> treading heavily on the Shaker tradition and I think I might end up
getting
> haunted if I dye the clock with lye.
>
>snip
>
> Thanks,
>
> David.
>
> Every neighbourhood has one, in mine, I'm him.
>
> Remove the "splinter" from my email address to email me.
>
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>
>
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> Why can't we just wait and enjoy the natural coloring process, which takes
> at most a year, especially if you use linseed oil on the cherry first.
You've got to be kidding. I've got cherry stuff I built 10 years ago and
it still gets a little darker every year. I'll be dead long before it
gets deep red (if cherry actually does that without stain).
--
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I have tried the catalyzed two part aging stuff (sold through Woodworkers
Supply - search for "old growth"). It produces a nice warm tint that looks
nice. My oldest try with it is about a year old now. I would use it again.
Jim K.
Jim wrote:
> Sorry if this is the original "option" but I didn't see the original
> post...
>
> Aging with Lye works VERY well and is extemely easy to do. I used about
> 1 of the plastic spoons of lye to a cup of water and then just sponged it
> on after planing and again after sanding.
>
> If you are seeing any residual lye after it dries, your using too much
> lye (or not enough water).
>
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Abe wrote:
> method again. It's not a dye, but a sort of accelerant. If Shaker
> ghosts bother you afterward you can threaten them with a can of stain.
LMAO... Minwhacks "Red Cherry" at that! :)
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Sorry if this is the original "option" but I didn't see the original
post...
Aging with Lye works VERY well and is extemely easy to do. I used about
1 of the plastic spoons of lye to a cup of water and then just sponged it
on after planing and again after sanding.
If you are seeing any residual lye after it dries, your using too much
lye (or not enough water).
Jim
"P van Rijckevorsel" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>> David Eisan asks:
>> >Any other options for artificially quickening the darkening process
>> >of cherry?
>
> Charlie Self <[email protected]> schreef
>> Well, a deep mahogany stain....No?
>
> + + +
> Since the idea is to pass off the cherry as a mahogany substitute this
> is a method that historically is eminently correct.
> PvR
>
>
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:30:58 -0500, JGS <[email protected]>
brought forth from the murky depths:
>Gerald,
> With Halloween so close you have to ask? JG
>
>Gerald Ross wrote:
>
>> Howdja take a picture of a mirror without showing yer face in it?
Owie, tell him about the time you used the -wrong- method
to check the Scary Sharp(tm)ness of your guillotine.
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In article
<[email protected]>,
"David F. Eisan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> This is so off the wall, I cannot wait for C-less to chime in, but...
Hi David. I ain't SansCee, but perhaps you'll take a liking to my
response.
> As some of you have seen, I am working on a small cherry clock right now. On
> my last cherry clock I did lye dye job and I really liked the deep red
> cherry look, as did the person I gave the clock to. This time though, I am
> treading heavily on the Shaker tradition and I think I might end up getting
> haunted if I dye the clock with lye.
>
<...>
> Thoughts?
I have many thoughts. Deep thoughts. Not so deep thoughts. Thoughts that
will surely make me go blind. (BTW, I like those thoughts the best.) But
I only have ONE thought when it comes to finishing cherry.
Fume it. Fume it with ammonia just like you do the white oak. Then
finish off with an oil (then varnish or shellac if desired). I guarantee
you'll love it - or else you can just dispose of that clock by sending
it to me so's you won't have to look at it any longer.
Somewhere's around here, I gots pitchers of a fumed quartersawn cherry
hand mirror I Valentined my wife a couple years back. Let me see...
Ah yes, here you go:
<http://users.easystreet.com/onlnlowe/misc/fumedcherry2.JPG>
<http://users.easystreet.com/onlnlowe/misc/fumedcherry3.JPG>
<http://users.easystreet.com/onlnlowe/misc/fumedcherry.JPG>
This item was fumed about 12 hours. Don't forget what Paully would say.
--
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Offering a shim for the Porter-Cable 557 type 2 fence design.
<http://www.flybynightcoppercompany.com>
<http://www.easystreet.com/~onlnlowe/index.html>
In article <[email protected]>,
Gerald Ross <[email protected]> wrote:
> Howdja take a picture of a mirror without showing yer face in it?
Wooo-ooo-oooo-oooo!
--
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<http://www.easystreet.com/~onlnlowe/index.html>
In article <[email protected]>,
Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
> To me it looks like he glued a piece of paper on the mirror.
Nah. It's the reflection of a fabric light box.
--
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In article <[email protected]>,
Larry Jaques <jake@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
> Gee, did it go from dark brown to dark black? DOH!
> =:0
That's what I expected, but NO. It went from dark brown to just the
slightest tad darker brown. Not much of a difference at all. I think
I'll try it with a couple pieces of mixed sap and heartwood as well as a
different tree.
--
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Offering a shim for the Porter-Cable 557 type 2 fence design.
<http://www.flybynightcoppercompany.com>
<http://www.easystreet.com/~onlnlowe/index.html>
In article
<[email protected]>,
"David F. Eisan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think you might remember the QSWO clock I made that I fumed, I was quite
> happy with the results. I have a recollection of wiping ammonia on cherry
> and it turning it green, or maybe that was red oak, I am not sure.
I do remember your WO clock and how taken you appeared with fuming. Red
Oak does have a tendency to green up when fumed - but a garnet shellac
will work at cancelling out the color cast.
> Is there anything you can remember written in any of the finishing books
> about fuming cherry? I know all I need to know about how to do it to WO, but
> I am just wondering what the differences, if any, there might be when doing
> cherry? What is so nice about the fuming process is how deep the colour
> goes, you can sand a little if necessary and not break through the colour
> layer.
I don't believe I've ever read anything pertaining to cherry fuming. I
treat it just like I do WO. No muss, no fuss. I use blueprint strength
(28%+/-) and, IIRC, seem to let it run for 8-12 hours. I like a deep
tone.
I tried a test fume of some Black Walnut, thinking it had a high tanin
content and would provide some dramatic effects... no such ruck. The
test did deepen the color somewhat and it _is_ pretty, but I'm not sure
I'd go that route for a piece. More testing needed.
--
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In article <qv2nb.38588$Tr4.81413@attbi_s03>,
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Look closer, it's not a mirror.
It's a portal to another dimension.
--
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Owen Lowe responds:
>In article <qv2nb.38588$Tr4.81413@attbi_s03>,
> "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Look closer, it's not a mirror.
>
>It's a portal to another dimension.
>
Of course it is. How do they think you got here?
Charlie Self
"Ain't no man can avoid being born average, but there ain't no man got to be
common." Satchel Paige
Look closer, it's not a mirror.
"Gerald Ross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Howdja take a picture of a mirror without showing yer face in it?
>
> Fly-by-Night CC wrote:
> >
> > In article
> > <[email protected]>,
> > "David F. Eisan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > This is so off the wall, I cannot wait for C-less to chime in, but...
> >
> > Hi David. I ain't SansCee, but perhaps you'll take a liking to my
> > response.
> >
> > > As some of you have seen, I am working on a small cherry clock right
now. On
> > > my last cherry clock I did lye dye job and I really liked the deep red
> > > cherry look, as did the person I gave the clock to. This time though,
I am
> > > treading heavily on the Shaker tradition and I think I might end up
getting
> > > haunted if I dye the clock with lye.
> > >
> > <...>
> > > Thoughts?
> >
> > I have many thoughts. Deep thoughts. Not so deep thoughts. Thoughts that
> > will surely make me go blind. (BTW, I like those thoughts the best.) But
> > I only have ONE thought when it comes to finishing cherry.
> >
> > Fume it. Fume it with ammonia just like you do the white oak. Then
> > finish off with an oil (then varnish or shellac if desired). I guarantee
> > you'll love it - or else you can just dispose of that clock by sending
> > it to me so's you won't have to look at it any longer.
> >
> > Somewhere's around here, I gots pitchers of a fumed quartersawn cherry
> > hand mirror I Valentined my wife a couple years back. Let me see...
> >
> > Ah yes, here you go:
> > <http://users.easystreet.com/onlnlowe/misc/fumedcherry2.JPG>
> > <http://users.easystreet.com/onlnlowe/misc/fumedcherry3.JPG>
> > <http://users.easystreet.com/onlnlowe/misc/fumedcherry.JPG>
> >
> > This item was fumed about 12 hours. Don't forget what Paully would say.
> >
> > --
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> > Offering a shim for the Porter-Cable 557 type 2 fence design.
> > <http://www.flybynightcoppercompany.com>
> > <http://www.easystreet.com/~onlnlowe/index.html>
>
> --
>
> Gerald Ross
> Cochran, GA
> ...........................................
> It's always darkest before you step on
> the cat.
>
>
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:11:30 GMT, "David F. Eisan"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Dear All,
>
>This is so off the wall, I cannot wait for C-less to chime in, but...
>
>As some of you have seen, I am working on a small cherry clock right now. On
>my last cherry clock I did lye dye job and I really liked the deep red
>cherry look, as did the person I gave the clock to. This time though, I am
>treading heavily on the Shaker tradition and I think I might end up getting
>haunted if I dye the clock with lye.
>
>I know someone who owns a tanning bed and I was wondering if I put the clock
>on the tanning bed for a period of time if it would age the cherry quickly?
>
>Thoughts?
>
>Seeing as the sun is soon to never rise again here in the GWN until spring
>again, I don't have the option of just leaving it outdoors on sunny days for
>a week like youse guys down south do.
>
>Any other options for artificially quickening the darkening process of
>cherry?
>
>Thanks,
>
>David.
Don't do it, you'll likely be disappointed. Let the cherry age on its
own for a beautiful color. I keep cherry out of the sunlight.
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:04:51 -0800, Fly-by-Night CC
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
>I tried a test fume of some Black Walnut, thinking it had a high tanin
>content and would provide some dramatic effects... no such ruck. The
>test did deepen the color somewhat and it _is_ pretty, but I'm not sure
>I'd go that route for a piece. More testing needed.
Gee, did it go from dark brown to dark black? DOH!
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:11:30 GMT, "David F. Eisan"
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
>Dear All,
>
>This is so off the wall, I cannot wait for C-less to chime in, but...
<ding dong> (I would have done a bong but after what recently
happened to Tommy...plus, I'm no longer a Californicator.)
>As some of you have seen, I am working on a small cherry clock right now. On
>my last cherry clock I did lye dye job and I really liked the deep red
>cherry look, as did the person I gave the clock to. This time though, I am
>treading heavily on the Shaker tradition and I think I might end up getting
>haunted if I dye the clock with lye.
>
>I know someone who owns a tanning bed and I was wondering if I put the clock
>on the tanning bed for a period of time if it would age the cherry quickly?
>
>Thoughts?
I was from California, so I'm all for that tanning bed idear.
It'll "naturally" darken it, not artificially darken it so it
becomes -black- by this time next fall.
>Seeing as the sun is soon to never rise again here in the GWN until spring
>again, I don't have the option of just leaving it outdoors on sunny days for
>a week like youse guys down south do.
What a concept. I cannot grok that fully, Davey.
>Any other options for artificially quickening the darkening process of
>cherry?
Jes don't stuh-AIN it, suh.
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Why can't we just wait and enjoy the natural coloring process, which takes
at most a year, especially if you use linseed oil on the cherry first.
Sunlight can actually BLEACH the color,for what it's worth.
"Abe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> > Dear All,
> >
> > This is so off the wall, I cannot wait for C-less to chime in, but...
> >
> > As some of you have seen, I am working on a small cherry clock right
now. On
> > my last cherry clock I did lye dye job and I really liked the deep red
> > cherry look, as did the person I gave the clock to. This time though, I
am
> > treading heavily on the Shaker tradition and I think I might end up
getting
> > haunted if I dye the clock with lye.
> >
> > I know someone who owns a tanning bed and I was wondering if I put the
clock
> > on the tanning bed for a period of time if it would age the cherry
quickly?
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Seeing as the sun is soon to never rise again here in the GWN until
spring
> > again, I don't have the option of just leaving it outdoors on sunny days
for
> > a week like youse guys down south do.
> >
> > Any other options for artificially quickening the darkening process of
> > cherry?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > David.
>
> David -- I did a quickie cherry-aging job earlier this year by leaving
> the finished article in the sun on my driveway for a few afternoons.
> This substantially darkened the cherry, though it was not a substitute
> for normal aging. I rotated the object occasionally to get uniform
> coverage. If it's too late for that, you might want to use the lye
> method again. It's not a dye, but a sort of accelerant. If Shaker
> ghosts bother you afterward you can threaten them with a can of stain.
>
> Abe
>
> --
> Replace ONE with the numeral for return email.
If the Shaker ghosts wouldn't approve of lye, shy would the like a tanning
bed any better?
Roger
"David F. Eisan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dear All,
>
> This is so off the wall, I cannot wait for C-less to chime in, but...
>
> As some of you have seen, I am working on a small cherry clock right now.
On
> my last cherry clock I did lye dye job and I really liked the deep red
> cherry look, as did the person I gave the clock to. This time though, I am
> treading heavily on the Shaker tradition and I think I might end up
getting
> haunted if I dye the clock with lye.
>
> I know someone who owns a tanning bed and I was wondering if I put the
clock
> on the tanning bed for a period of time if it would age the cherry
quickly?
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Seeing as the sun is soon to never rise again here in the GWN until spring
> again, I don't have the option of just leaving it outdoors on sunny days
for
> a week like youse guys down south do.
>
> Any other options for artificially quickening the darkening process of
> cherry?
>
> Thanks,
>
> David.
>
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>
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