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[email protected] (Vanessa BJ)

08/10/2003 7:34 AM

Java Exam Info Needed PLEASE HELP

Hi. I am an amateur Java enthusiast. I currently work as a carpenter
and I moonlight on the weekends as a photographer. I'm trying to
transition a career change.

Which Java exam should I start with? Programmer? Or Developer?

How much of the exam will rely on memorization? How much will be from
programming skill? How do they measure my programming ability from one
exam?


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Crownfield

in reply to [email protected] (Vanessa BJ) on 08/10/2003 7:34 AM

09/10/2003 10:22 PM

Vanessa BJ wrote:
>
> Hi. I am an amateur Java enthusiast. I currently work as a carpenter
> and I moonlight on the weekends as a photographer. I'm trying to
> transition a career change.
>
> Which Java exam should I start with? Programmer? Or Developer?
>
> How much of the exam will rely on memorization? How much will be from
> programming skill? How do they measure my programming ability from one
> exam?

try asa 200 1/250 at f16.

GK

George Kerby

in reply to [email protected] (Vanessa BJ) on 08/10/2003 7:34 AM

08/10/2003 9:21 PM

On 10/8/03 4:01 PM, in article [email protected], "Paul
Lutus" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Vanessa BJ wrote:
>
>> Hi. I am an amateur Java enthusiast. I currently work as a carpenter
>> and I moonlight on the weekends as a photographer. I'm trying to
>> transition a career change.
>>
>> Which Java exam should I start with? Programmer? Or Developer?
>
> PLEASE EXPLAIN how this question is topical in:
>
> rec.woodworking
> rec.photo.digital
> rec.photo.equipment.35mm
>
> DO NOT CROSS-POST. Choose ONE newsgroup. Ask ONE question. Await a reply.

I see that you are following your own advice, imbecile!


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George Kerby

in reply to [email protected] (Vanessa BJ) on 08/10/2003 7:34 AM

08/10/2003 10:03 PM

On 10/8/03 4:52 PM, in article [email protected], "Paul
Lutus" <[email protected]> wrote:

> George Kerby wrote:
>
>> On 10/8/03 4:01 PM, in article [email protected], "Paul
>> Lutus" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Vanessa BJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi. I am an amateur Java enthusiast. I currently work as a carpenter
>>>> and I moonlight on the weekends as a photographer. I'm trying to
>>>> transition a career change.
>>>>
>>>> Which Java exam should I start with? Programmer? Or Developer?
>>>
>>> PLEASE EXPLAIN how this question is topical in:
>>>
>>> rec.woodworking
>>> rec.photo.digital
>>> rec.photo.equipment.35mm
>>>
>>> DO NOT CROSS-POST. Choose ONE newsgroup. Ask ONE question. Await a reply.
>>
>> I see that you are following your own advice, imbecile!
>
> 1. That would be the same imbecile that cross-posted his reply, in order to
> join the ranks of the congenitally hypocritical?
>
> 1. Required if one expects to reach the original cross-poster. Cross-posters
> regularly set followups to nonexistent or unvisited newsgrousp to avoid the
> consequences of their own misbehavior. O clueless one.
>

To quote you:

"1."

"1."

And you call me clueless.

Case closed!


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George Kerby

in reply to [email protected] (Vanessa BJ) on 08/10/2003 7:34 AM

08/10/2003 10:14 PM

On 10/8/03 5:07 PM, in article
[email protected], "Todd Walker"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
>> O clueless one.
>>
>
> Be careful who you call clueless there Paul. You figured it out yet?
> I'll give you a little more time...

Thanks Todd!

But I think you could give him a blue moon's time and he wouldn't figure it
out...


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"VisionSet"

in reply to [email protected] (Vanessa BJ) on 08/10/2003 7:34 AM

08/10/2003 9:27 PM


"Kevin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mike,
>
> Just out of curiosity, where does one go to take the Java Programmer Exam?
> Is this something that can be done online? Or is it in a testing center?
> Maybe one day I'll be confident enough to take this test :-)
>

Sun have their tests administered through prometric they have affiliated
testing centres, mine was just 3 miles away, next closest was about 20 miles
away, so that gives you some idea of the spread.

http://www.2test.com/tcl/index.jsp

to get a list of centers

--
Mike W

Sun Certified Programmer for the Java 2 Platform 1.4 :-)
Self congratulation for a limited time only ;-)

TW

Todd Walker

in reply to [email protected] (Vanessa BJ) on 08/10/2003 7:34 AM

08/10/2003 10:07 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> O clueless one.
>

Be careful who you call clueless there Paul. You figured it out yet?
I'll give you a little more time...

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"Kevin"

in reply to [email protected] (Vanessa BJ) on 08/10/2003 7:34 AM

08/10/2003 12:15 PM

Mike,

Just out of curiosity, where does one go to take the Java Programmer Exam?
Is this something that can be done online? Or is it in a testing center?
Maybe one day I'll be confident enough to take this test :-)

Thanks,

Kevin

--
"Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson
later."
"VisionSet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Vanessa BJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi. I am an amateur Java enthusiast. I currently work as a carpenter
> > and I moonlight on the weekends as a photographer. I'm trying to
> > transition a career change.
> >
> > Which Java exam should I start with? Programmer? Or Developer?
> >
> > How much of the exam will rely on memorization? How much will be from
> > programming skill? How do they measure my programming ability from one
> > exam?
>
> You must do programmer 1st, passing it is a requirement for the developer
> exam.
> The programmer 1.4 version is less about memory that the 1.2 exam as some
> big library specific stuff has been dropped (ie IO & GUI), but the
> questions are probably a little more demanding, eg Threads.
> The developer exam tests ability to put together your own design.
> Programmer exam is multiple choice (with the odd short answer).
> Developer is a no time limit project and an essay exam that tests your
> critique of your design. But there are at least 3 options after
programmer,
> for instance there is Web Component Developer for J2EE.
>
> http://suned.sun.com/US/certification/java/
>
> --
> Mike W
>
> Sun Certified Programmer for the Java 2 Platform 1.4 :-)
> Self congratulation for a limited time only ;-)
>
>

ss

"simon"

in reply to [email protected] (Vanessa BJ) on 08/10/2003 7:34 AM

09/10/2003 11:30 AM


On 8-Oct-2003, [email protected] (Vanessa BJ) wrote:
> Which Java exam should I start with? Programmer? Or Developer?
>
The Programmer Exam is prerequisite to everything else (well, except the
Architect Exam, but it is way beyond most people). Therefore, it has to be
the first exam to take.

> How much of the exam will rely on memorization? How much will be from
> programming skill? How do they measure my programming ability from one
> exam?
>
Memorization can possibly get you pass the Programmer Exam, because it is
all Multiple Guesses. To continue, you need real programming knowledge.
Furthermore, most hiring manager in the real world do not measure your
ability by the certification alone. They are more interested in your
"actual working" experience.

Hope this helps.

simon.

Vs

"VisionSet"

in reply to [email protected] (Vanessa BJ) on 08/10/2003 7:34 AM

08/10/2003 4:35 PM

"Vanessa BJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi. I am an amateur Java enthusiast. I currently work as a carpenter
> and I moonlight on the weekends as a photographer. I'm trying to
> transition a career change.
>
> Which Java exam should I start with? Programmer? Or Developer?
>
> How much of the exam will rely on memorization? How much will be from
> programming skill? How do they measure my programming ability from one
> exam?

You must do programmer 1st, passing it is a requirement for the developer
exam.
The programmer 1.4 version is less about memory that the 1.2 exam as some
big library specific stuff has been dropped (ie IO & GUI), but the
questions are probably a little more demanding, eg Threads.
The developer exam tests ability to put together your own design.
Programmer exam is multiple choice (with the odd short answer).
Developer is a no time limit project and an essay exam that tests your
critique of your design. But there are at least 3 options after programmer,
for instance there is Web Component Developer for J2EE.

http://suned.sun.com/US/certification/java/

--
Mike W

Sun Certified Programmer for the Java 2 Platform 1.4 :-)
Self congratulation for a limited time only ;-)

PL

Paul Lutus

in reply to [email protected] (Vanessa BJ) on 08/10/2003 7:34 AM

08/10/2003 2:01 PM

Vanessa BJ wrote:

> Hi. I am an amateur Java enthusiast. I currently work as a carpenter
> and I moonlight on the weekends as a photographer. I'm trying to
> transition a career change.
>
> Which Java exam should I start with? Programmer? Or Developer?

PLEASE EXPLAIN how this question is topical in:

rec.woodworking
rec.photo.digital
rec.photo.equipment.35mm

DO NOT CROSS-POST. Choose ONE newsgroup. Ask ONE question. Await a reply.

--
Paul Lutus
http://www.arachnoid.com

c

in reply to Paul Lutus on 08/10/2003 2:01 PM

08/10/2003 6:02 PM

Paul Lutus <[email protected]> wrote:

> Vanessa BJ wrote:
>
> > Hi. I am an amateur Java enthusiast. I currently work as a carpenter
> > and I moonlight on the weekends as a photographer. I'm trying to
> > transition a career change.
> >
> > Which Java exam should I start with? Programmer? Or Developer?
>
> PLEASE EXPLAIN how this question is topical in:
>
> rec.woodworking
> rec.photo.digital
> rec.photo.equipment.35mm
>
> DO NOT CROSS-POST. Choose ONE newsgroup. Ask ONE question. Await a reply.

okay bitch










Wa

Wald

in reply to Paul Lutus on 08/10/2003 2:01 PM

09/10/2003 8:23 AM

[email protected] wrote:

> Paul Lutus <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> DO NOT CROSS-POST. Choose ONE newsgroup. Ask ONE question.
>> Await a reply.
>
> okay bitch

Nice to see that one slightly critical reply can unleash the true
nature of some newsgroup posters.

Dear cunnilingus, show some dignity man. Attitudes like yours make
the world suck, think about it.

Wald

PL

Paul Lutus

in reply to [email protected] (Vanessa BJ) on 08/10/2003 7:34 AM

08/10/2003 2:52 PM

George Kerby wrote:

> On 10/8/03 4:01 PM, in article [email protected], "Paul
> Lutus" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Vanessa BJ wrote:
>>
>>> Hi. I am an amateur Java enthusiast. I currently work as a carpenter
>>> and I moonlight on the weekends as a photographer. I'm trying to
>>> transition a career change.
>>>
>>> Which Java exam should I start with? Programmer? Or Developer?
>>
>> PLEASE EXPLAIN how this question is topical in:
>>
>> rec.woodworking
>> rec.photo.digital
>> rec.photo.equipment.35mm
>>
>> DO NOT CROSS-POST. Choose ONE newsgroup. Ask ONE question. Await a reply.
>
> I see that you are following your own advice, imbecile!

1. That would be the same imbecile that cross-posted his reply, in order to
join the ranks of the congenitally hypocritical?

1. Required if one expects to reach the original cross-poster. Cross-posters
regularly set followups to nonexistent or unvisited newsgrousp to avoid the
consequences of their own misbehavior. O clueless one.


--
Paul Lutus
http://www.arachnoid.com

PL

Paul Lutus

in reply to [email protected] (Vanessa BJ) on 08/10/2003 7:34 AM

08/10/2003 3:18 PM

Todd Walker wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
>> O clueless one.
>>
>
> Be careful who you call clueless there Paul. You figured it out yet?
> I'll give you a little more time...

People never read my point two's. That's my remedy. :)

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http://www.arachnoid.com


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