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"Scott Rollo"

01/09/2003 2:22 PM

Homemade rip fence for homemade table saw...

Hello All,

I am currently making myself a new table saw as the one I have been using (a
Triton saw adapter sold here in Australia)
just wasn't flexible enough. The new one utilizing a 2.25 hp induction
motor and a tool head fitted with a 10 inch blade is
half finished, complete with homemade tilt and drop mechanism. My big issue
is to find a homemade scenario for the rip
fence. Not that I am against the fine commercial fences available......it's
just that I am trying to sneak the whole job under
the radar of my wife. She who must be obeyed bought me a new compound mitre
saw a few months back and doesn't
understand that there are different saws for different purposes. (and my
current runnug battle to get a bandsaw for my birthday
when she wants to bbuy me clothes!!!)

So I am going totally shop made for the entire project and I am having a
hard time finding something suitable, so I hope
all of you enthusiasts out there in the ether can help me with an idea,
plans preferrably with pics, or suggestions to a website.

I am quite adept at welding, so if it's a steel based option, that's fine
too.

I do enjoy this NG and hope you can help.


Scott Rollo,

Sydney Australia.

P.S. Don't grind and cut metal in the direction of sawdust covered buffing
wheels - it leads to smoldering, then flaming buffing wheels...

But you probably all knew this...thank god for smoke detectors!!!


This topic has 17 replies

Bb

"<<<___ Bob ___>>>"

in reply to "Scott Rollo" on 01/09/2003 2:22 PM

01/09/2003 1:24 PM

Study the Biesemeyer .. .. . then build a clone .. .. .. I built one 8 years ago
and it's better than an original .. ...no special skills req'd .. .. .. just
some cutting, drilling, tapping & welding .. .. .. mine cost about $60 in steel
.

Scott Rollo wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I am currently making myself a new table saw as the one I have been using (a
> Triton saw adapter sold here in Australia)
> just wasn't flexible enough. The new one utilizing a 2.25 hp induction
> motor and a tool head fitted with a 10 inch blade is
> half finished, complete with homemade tilt and drop mechanism. My big issue
> is to find a homemade scenario for the rip
> fence. Not that I am against the fine commercial fences available......it's
> just that I am trying to sneak the whole job under
> the radar of my wife. She who must be obeyed bought me a new compound mitre
> saw a few months back and doesn't
> understand that there are different saws for different purposes. (and my
> current runnug battle to get a bandsaw for my birthday
> when she wants to bbuy me clothes!!!)
>
> So I am going totally shop made for the entire project and I am having a
> hard time finding something suitable, so I hope
> all of you enthusiasts out there in the ether can help me with an idea,
> plans preferrably with pics, or suggestions to a website.
>
> I am quite adept at welding, so if it's a steel based option, that's fine
> too.
>
> I do enjoy this NG and hope you can help.
>
> Scott Rollo,
>
> Sydney Australia.
>
> P.S. Don't grind and cut metal in the direction of sawdust covered buffing
> wheels - it leads to smoldering, then flaming buffing wheels...
>
> But you probably all knew this...thank god for smoke detectors!!!

--
I AM NOT PARANOID .. .. .. but EVERYONE thinks I am !! !! !!

<<<__ Bob __>>>

pR

in reply to "<<<___ Bob ___>>>" on 01/09/2003 1:24 PM

03/09/2003 2:37 PM

Beisemeyer is a good and simple design, which I agree can be copied, and
I do like the simple cam-lock mechanism, but if I may be OT slightly
here, we use them on large bandsaws and table saws, and they do not hold
up under constant industrial use. The cam-lock wears, well, actually,
the way bar (box channel) wears and the cam will not lock. Now you can
either shim the cam-lock with a scrap, re-line it in the repair shop, or
replace the way slide. This may not be a problem in a hobby-grade
application.

RI

Rico

in reply to "Scott Rollo" on 01/09/2003 2:22 PM

01/09/2003 10:41 AM

Right on Dave! The audacity of that Ozzie and Bob too!
Talking about actually designing and building something
yourself instead of going out and buying it like Joe
Consumer.

And doing it in rec.woodworking! What a strange place to
talk about building something related to woodworking. What
is with people these days?

Rico

Bay Area Dave wrote:
> and why drive to the store for butter, when you can churn your own just
> as easily? Buy a few cows, chickens, the neighbors won't mind...
>
> generate your own 'lectricity too, I bet! screw the power company.
> Being on the grid is for wimps!
>
> Yeah, you GO, Bob!
>
> dave
>
>
> <<<___ Bob ___>>> wrote:
>
> > Study the Biesemeyer .. .. . then build a clone .. .. .. I built one 8 years ago
> > and it's better than an original .. ...no special skills req'd .. .. .. just
> > some cutting, drilling, tapping & welding .. .. .. mine cost about $60 in steel
> > .
> >
> > Scott Rollo wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hello All,
> >>
> >>I am currently making myself a new table saw as the one I have been using (a
> >>Triton saw adapter sold here in Australia)
> >>just wasn't flexible enough. The new one utilizing a 2.25 hp induction
> >>motor and a tool head fitted with a 10 inch blade is
> >>half finished, complete with homemade tilt and drop mechanism. My big issue
> >>is to find a homemade scenario for the rip
> >>fence. Not that I am against the fine commercial fences available......it's
> >>just that I am trying to sneak the whole job under
> >>the radar of my wife. She who must be obeyed bought me a new compound mitre
> >>saw a few months back and doesn't
> >>understand that there are different saws for different purposes. (and my
> >>current runnug battle to get a bandsaw for my birthday
> >>when she wants to bbuy me clothes!!!)
> >>
> >>So I am going totally shop made for the entire project and I am having a
> >>hard time finding something suitable, so I hope
> >>all of you enthusiasts out there in the ether can help me with an idea,
> >>plans preferrably with pics, or suggestions to a website.
> >>
> >>I am quite adept at welding, so if it's a steel based option, that's fine
> >>too.
> >>
> >>I do enjoy this NG and hope you can help.
> >>
> >>Scott Rollo,
> >>
> >>Sydney Australia.
> >>
> >>P.S. Don't grind and cut metal in the direction of sawdust covered buffing
> >>wheels - it leads to smoldering, then flaming buffing wheels...
> >>
> >>But you probably all knew this...thank god for smoke detectors!!!
> >
> >
> > --
> > I AM NOT PARANOID .. .. .. but EVERYONE thinks I am !! !! !!
> >
> > <<<__ Bob __>>>
> >
> >
>
>


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Larry Blanchard

in reply to "Scott Rollo" on 01/09/2003 2:22 PM

01/09/2003 8:58 AM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> So I am going totally shop made for the entire project and I am having a
> hard time finding something suitable, so I hope
> all of you enthusiasts out there in the ether can help me with an idea,
> plans preferrably with pics, or suggestions to a website.
>
WOOD magazine had a book out some time backtitled "Woodworking Tools You
Can Make" or something like that. It had plans for a rip fence that I
adapted for my Taiwanese table saw. Works great.

If it's out of print, try one of the used book listings like ABE.

--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?

SG

Scott Goodyear

in reply to "Scott Rollo" on 01/09/2003 2:22 PM

05/09/2003 11:42 PM

Here are two links I think may help you. Try a google search as well,
it may turn up some more.

http://www.bill.pounds.net/woodshop/tsquarefence.html

http://www.tdl.com/~swensen/machines/fence/fence.html

The fence is easy, if you've managed to build your own tilting arbor
tablesaw already it should be a piece of cake.

Scott Goodyear


On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 14:22:00 +1000, "Scott Rollo"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hello All,
>
>I am currently making myself a new table saw as the one I have been using (a
>Triton saw adapter sold here in Australia)
>just wasn't flexible enough. The new one utilizing a 2.25 hp induction
>motor and a tool head fitted with a 10 inch blade is
>half finished, complete with homemade tilt and drop mechanism. My big issue
>is to find a homemade scenario for the rip
>fence. Not that I am against the fine commercial fences available......it's
>just that I am trying to sneak the whole job under
>the radar of my wife. She who must be obeyed bought me a new compound mitre
>saw a few months back and doesn't
>understand that there are different saws for different purposes. (and my
>current runnug battle to get a bandsaw for my birthday
>when she wants to bbuy me clothes!!!)
>
>So I am going totally shop made for the entire project and I am having a
>hard time finding something suitable, so I hope
>all of you enthusiasts out there in the ether can help me with an idea,
>plans preferrably with pics, or suggestions to a website.
>
>I am quite adept at welding, so if it's a steel based option, that's fine
>too.
>
>I do enjoy this NG and hope you can help.
>
>
>Scott Rollo,
>
>Sydney Australia.
>
>P.S. Don't grind and cut metal in the direction of sawdust covered buffing
>wheels - it leads to smoldering, then flaming buffing wheels...
>
>But you probably all knew this...thank god for smoke detectors!!!
>

Rl

Ramsey

in reply to "Scott Rollo" on 01/09/2003 2:22 PM

01/09/2003 11:58 AM

Wouldn't a pit saw be cheaper? The one where one guy gets down in a
pit and the other guy stands on top of the log being cut and they pull
a saw between them. If you can't find anyone, maybe you could buy a
solar powered chainsaw! Wow!!

On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 16:29:11 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]>
wrote:

>and why drive to the store for butter, when you can churn your own just
>as easily? Buy a few cows, chickens, the neighbors won't mind...
>
>generate your own 'lectricity too, I bet! screw the power company.
>Being on the grid is for wimps!
>
>Yeah, you GO, Bob!
>
>dave
>
>
><<<___ Bob ___>>> wrote:
>
>> Study the Biesemeyer .. .. . then build a clone .. .. .. I built one 8 years ago
>> and it's better than an original .. ...no special skills req'd .. .. .. just
>> some cutting, drilling, tapping & welding .. .. .. mine cost about $60 in steel
>> .
>>
>> Scott Rollo wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hello All,
>>>
>>>I am currently making myself a new table saw as the one I have been using (a
>>>Triton saw adapter sold here in Australia)
>>>just wasn't flexible enough. The new one utilizing a 2.25 hp induction
>>>motor and a tool head fitted with a 10 inch blade is
>>>half finished, complete with homemade tilt and drop mechanism. My big issue
>>>is to find a homemade scenario for the rip
>>>fence. Not that I am against the fine commercial fences available......it's
>>>just that I am trying to sneak the whole job under
>>>the radar of my wife. She who must be obeyed bought me a new compound mitre
>>>saw a few months back and doesn't
>>>understand that there are different saws for different purposes. (and my
>>>current runnug battle to get a bandsaw for my birthday
>>>when she wants to bbuy me clothes!!!)
>>>
>>>So I am going totally shop made for the entire project and I am having a
>>>hard time finding something suitable, so I hope
>>>all of you enthusiasts out there in the ether can help me with an idea,
>>>plans preferrably with pics, or suggestions to a website.
>>>
>>>I am quite adept at welding, so if it's a steel based option, that's fine
>>>too.
>>>
>>>I do enjoy this NG and hope you can help.
>>>
>>>Scott Rollo,
>>>
>>>Sydney Australia.
>>>
>>>P.S. Don't grind and cut metal in the direction of sawdust covered buffing
>>>wheels - it leads to smoldering, then flaming buffing wheels...
>>>
>>>But you probably all knew this...thank god for smoke detectors!!!
>>
>>
>> --
>> I AM NOT PARANOID .. .. .. but EVERYONE thinks I am !! !! !!
>>
>> <<<__ Bob __>>>
>>
>>

RI

Rico

in reply to Ramsey on 01/09/2003 11:58 AM

03/09/2003 12:34 PM

RM MS wrote:
> Why don't they call this group the "Candy Ass Shopping Club" or the
> "Spender's Jubilee and Worrying Society" or something more accurate to
> the majority here?
>
>

Learn how to quote so people will have some idea what you
are talking about.



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pR

in reply to Rico on 03/09/2003 12:34 PM

05/09/2003 5:53 AM

Rico Wrote:
"Learn how to quote so people will have some idea what you are talking
about."==============================================================

Wasn't a quote; that is my considered opinion of what I see here but all
too often. Read through all the posts of interest and don't just
cherry-pick mine and you will be able to follow the conversation.

Cc

"CW"

in reply to Rico on 03/09/2003 12:34 PM

05/09/2003 10:31 PM

If there is a worthwile web tver out there, I will never know. I now have
them blocked. I'll unblock them in a couple of years to see if they have
improved. Thanks for the tip in any case.
"D.B." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> If there is a worthwhile Webtv'er you want to see, I think
> you can make your first rule to mark ther post to be read,
> then after that have the rule that kills deletes or marks as
> read Webtv'ers. You may have to have it move the Webtv posts
> you want to keep to another folder.
>
> I don't use OE 6 for newsgroups, but I do use it for email
> and the fact that you can define the order that rules
> execute is handy. I expect it would work the same for
> newsgroups.
>
> Rico
>
> CW wrote:
> > Thanks.
> > "D.B." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Your header sez you are using OE 6.0
> > >
> > > Try this:
> > > http://email.about.com/cs/oetipstricks/a/et112701.htm
> > >
> > > Rico
> > >
> > > CW wrote:
> > > > I haven't found any. My newsreader won't allow me to block a domain.
If
> > it
> > > > would, I would never see web tv again.
> > > > "Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:49:39 -0700, D.B. <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > There are many WebTV users who have real
> > > > > knowledge from the outside world, and they're worth listening to.
> > > > >
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"CW"

in reply to Rico on 03/09/2003 12:34 PM

05/09/2003 8:40 PM

Thanks.
"D.B." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Your header sez you are using OE 6.0
>
> Try this:
> http://email.about.com/cs/oetipstricks/a/et112701.htm
>
> Rico
>
> CW wrote:
> > I haven't found any. My newsreader won't allow me to block a domain. If
it
> > would, I would never see web tv again.
> > "Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:49:39 -0700, D.B. <[email protected]> wrote:
> > There are many WebTV users who have real
> > > knowledge from the outside world, and they're worth listening to.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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D.B.

in reply to Rico on 03/09/2003 12:34 PM

05/09/2003 9:49 AM

RM MS wrote:
> Rico Wrote:
> "Learn how to quote so people will have some idea what you are talking
> about."==============================================================
>
> Wasn't a quote; that is my considered opinion of what I see here but all
> too often. Read through all the posts of interest and don't just
> cherry-pick mine and you will be able to follow the conversation.
>
>

Several years ago when AOL turned their subscribers loose on
the web, they were the lowest life form on USENET, now they
are just regular folks. Somehow I doubt Web TV users are
going to make the transition.


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D.B.

in reply to Rico on 03/09/2003 12:34 PM

05/09/2003 11:45 AM

Yeah, where are they hiding.



CW wrote:
> I haven't found any. My newsreader won't allow me to block a domain. If it
> would, I would never see web tv again.
> "Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:49:39 -0700, D.B. <[email protected]> wrote:
> There are many WebTV users who have real
> > knowledge from the outside world, and they're worth listening to.
> >
> >
>
>
>


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D.B.

in reply to Rico on 03/09/2003 12:34 PM

05/09/2003 2:40 PM


If there is a worthwhile Webtv'er you want to see, I think
you can make your first rule to mark ther post to be read,
then after that have the rule that kills deletes or marks as
read Webtv'ers. You may have to have it move the Webtv posts
you want to keep to another folder.

I don't use OE 6 for newsgroups, but I do use it for email
and the fact that you can define the order that rules
execute is handy. I expect it would work the same for
newsgroups.

Rico

CW wrote:
> Thanks.
> "D.B." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Your header sez you are using OE 6.0
> >
> > Try this:
> > http://email.about.com/cs/oetipstricks/a/et112701.htm
> >
> > Rico
> >
> > CW wrote:
> > > I haven't found any. My newsreader won't allow me to block a domain. If
> it
> > > would, I would never see web tv again.
> > > "Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:49:39 -0700, D.B. <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > There are many WebTV users who have real
> > > > knowledge from the outside world, and they're worth listening to.
> > > >


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in reply to Rico on 03/09/2003 12:34 PM

06/09/2003 5:05 AM

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:41:52 +0100, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> pixelated:

> There are many WebTV users who have real
>knowledge from the outside world, and they're worth listening to.

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in reply to Rico on 03/09/2003 12:34 PM

05/09/2003 6:41 PM

On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:49:39 -0700, D.B. <[email protected]> wrote:

>Several years ago when AOL turned their subscribers loose on
>the web, they were the lowest life form on USENET, now they
>are just regular folks. Somehow I doubt Web TV users are
>going to make the transition.

I'm not so sure. AOL got its "assholes on-line" reputation because so
many of them were teenage brats with nothing to add other than being
obnoxious.

WebTVers are different. No teenager is going to be seen with one, for
one thing. Web TV users, almost by definition, don't give a damn about
computers. If they're on the Interweb, it's because they've (by and
large) got some reason to be there, not just fooling with their new
Pentangle VoodooFX3000. There are many WebTV users who have real
knowledge from the outside world, and they're worth listening to.

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to "Scott Rollo" on 01/09/2003 2:22 PM

01/09/2003 4:29 PM

and why drive to the store for butter, when you can churn your own just
as easily? Buy a few cows, chickens, the neighbors won't mind...

generate your own 'lectricity too, I bet! screw the power company.
Being on the grid is for wimps!

Yeah, you GO, Bob!

dave


<<<___ Bob ___>>> wrote:

> Study the Biesemeyer .. .. . then build a clone .. .. .. I built one 8 years ago
> and it's better than an original .. ...no special skills req'd .. .. .. just
> some cutting, drilling, tapping & welding .. .. .. mine cost about $60 in steel
> .
>
> Scott Rollo wrote:
>
>
>>Hello All,
>>
>>I am currently making myself a new table saw as the one I have been using (a
>>Triton saw adapter sold here in Australia)
>>just wasn't flexible enough. The new one utilizing a 2.25 hp induction
>>motor and a tool head fitted with a 10 inch blade is
>>half finished, complete with homemade tilt and drop mechanism. My big issue
>>is to find a homemade scenario for the rip
>>fence. Not that I am against the fine commercial fences available......it's
>>just that I am trying to sneak the whole job under
>>the radar of my wife. She who must be obeyed bought me a new compound mitre
>>saw a few months back and doesn't
>>understand that there are different saws for different purposes. (and my
>>current runnug battle to get a bandsaw for my birthday
>>when she wants to bbuy me clothes!!!)
>>
>>So I am going totally shop made for the entire project and I am having a
>>hard time finding something suitable, so I hope
>>all of you enthusiasts out there in the ether can help me with an idea,
>>plans preferrably with pics, or suggestions to a website.
>>
>>I am quite adept at welding, so if it's a steel based option, that's fine
>>too.
>>
>>I do enjoy this NG and hope you can help.
>>
>>Scott Rollo,
>>
>>Sydney Australia.
>>
>>P.S. Don't grind and cut metal in the direction of sawdust covered buffing
>>wheels - it leads to smoldering, then flaming buffing wheels...
>>
>>But you probably all knew this...thank god for smoke detectors!!!
>
>
> --
> I AM NOT PARANOID .. .. .. but EVERYONE thinks I am !! !! !!
>
> <<<__ Bob __>>>
>
>

WL

"Wilson Lamb"

in reply to "Scott Rollo" on 01/09/2003 2:22 PM

01/09/2003 1:28 PM

Do some searching. There IS an article on making a Bies clone!
Wilson
"Scott Rollo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello All,
>
> I am currently making myself a new table saw as the one I have been using
(a
> Triton saw adapter sold here in Australia)
> just wasn't flexible enough. The new one utilizing a 2.25 hp induction
> motor and a tool head fitted with a 10 inch blade is
> half finished, complete with homemade tilt and drop mechanism. My big
issue
> is to find a homemade scenario for the rip
> fence. Not that I am against the fine commercial fences
available......it's
> just that I am trying to sneak the whole job under
> the radar of my wife. She who must be obeyed bought me a new compound
mitre
> saw a few months back and doesn't
> understand that there are different saws for different purposes. (and my
> current runnug battle to get a bandsaw for my birthday
> when she wants to bbuy me clothes!!!)
>
> So I am going totally shop made for the entire project and I am having a
> hard time finding something suitable, so I hope
> all of you enthusiasts out there in the ether can help me with an idea,
> plans preferrably with pics, or suggestions to a website.
>
> I am quite adept at welding, so if it's a steel based option, that's fine
> too.
>
> I do enjoy this NG and hope you can help.
>
>
> Scott Rollo,
>
> Sydney Australia.
>
> P.S. Don't grind and cut metal in the direction of sawdust covered buffing
> wheels - it leads to smoldering, then flaming buffing wheels...
>
> But you probably all knew this...thank god for smoke detectors!!!
>
>


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