LH

Lew Hodgett

22/07/2006 8:10 PM

RE: Ode to the nut

I lost one of my nuts.

Actually, it was the table saw spindle nut used to keep the saw blade
in place on my contractor saw.

Needed to change blades.

As I was taking the nut loose, dropped it onto the pile of saw dust
under the blade.

NBD, this has happened before, just reach down and get it.

Ah, but this time is different, the little rascal has sunk into the
saw dust.

NBD, will just sift the saw dust and retrieve my nut.

WRONG!!!

Not this time.

Sifted thru probably 15 gallons of saw dust, but no nut.

Maybe the heat made me careless, maybe it was fate, but that nut was
not to be found.

ND.

2 blocks away is a pretty decent hardware store.

Since it is a 5/8" shaft, get a 5/8-11 (coarse) and a 5/8-18 (fine),
left hand threaded nut and head back to the yard.

Looking at the shaft, it was obviously a coarse thread, but surprise,
a standard 5/8-11 H nut doesn't fit.

Done for the day, no work accomplished.

Next day, call my home town hardware, who specializes in selling wood
working tools, along with being a pretty good general hardware store,
and ask if they stock any parts for my saw.

They want a model number, which I give them, since there is more than
one nut for these saws.

YES, they have one.

They didn't smile, they didn't use Vasoline, they just said, "That
will be $8.00".

A lesson learned.

HANG ONTO YOUR NUTS.

Lew


This topic has 16 replies

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"tom"

in reply to Lew Hodgett on 22/07/2006 8:10 PM

22/07/2006 5:38 PM

Finding that f^@&(%' nut would have consumed the rest of my day. I know
it's there....Tom
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> I lost one of my nuts.
>
> Actually, it was the table saw spindle nut used to keep the saw blade
> in place on my contractor saw.
>
> Needed to change blades.
>
> As I was taking the nut loose, dropped it onto the pile of saw dust
> under the blade.
>
> NBD, this has happened before, just reach down and get it.
>
> Ah, but this time is different, the little rascal has sunk into the
> saw dust.
>
> NBD, will just sift the saw dust and retrieve my nut.
>
> WRONG!!!
>
> Not this time.
>
> Sifted thru probably 15 gallons of saw dust, but no nut.
>
> Maybe the heat made me careless, maybe it was fate, but that nut was
> not to be found.
>
> ND.
>
> 2 blocks away is a pretty decent hardware store.
>
> Since it is a 5/8" shaft, get a 5/8-11 (coarse) and a 5/8-18 (fine),
> left hand threaded nut and head back to the yard.
>
> Looking at the shaft, it was obviously a coarse thread, but surprise,
> a standard 5/8-11 H nut doesn't fit.
>
> Done for the day, no work accomplished.
>
> Next day, call my home town hardware, who specializes in selling wood
> working tools, along with being a pretty good general hardware store,
> and ask if they stock any parts for my saw.
>
> They want a model number, which I give them, since there is more than
> one nut for these saws.
>
> YES, they have one.
>
> They didn't smile, they didn't use Vasoline, they just said, "That
> will be $8.00".
>
> A lesson learned.
>
> HANG ONTO YOUR NUTS.
>
> Lew

NH

"N Hurst"

in reply to Lew Hodgett on 22/07/2006 8:10 PM

25/07/2006 7:29 AM


EXT wrote:
> After all, what do I know -- I put down a claw hammer in 1959 to have lunch
> when working outside, and I still haven't managed to find it yet!

Don't worry, the next person who buys your house will find it. That's
what happened to me with the house I bought last year. I've found 3
different saw blades, a wrench, 2 shovel heads, 2 broken trowels,
fencing, an antique milk bottle, 2 different types of hammer heads, 2
nail pullers, 3 rake heads, some carpeting, and lots of broken terra
cotta.

And that's in about 1/8 of an acre on my 1/4 acre lot!

-Nathan

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to Lew Hodgett on 22/07/2006 8:10 PM

22/07/2006 6:54 PM

"Shopdog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> How about using a magnet!

I bought one of these a number of years back. Haven't used it often, but it
works great those few times I've lost some metal object in a pile of sawdust
or a garbage can.

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=32071&cat=1,42363,42356

En

"EXT"

in reply to Lew Hodgett on 22/07/2006 8:10 PM

23/07/2006 3:18 PM

In my extensive experience with dropping things, it is either still buried
in the sawdust OR missed the bin and rolled under a leg or other part that
could hide it OR it dropped onto part of the saw frame and is sitting there
waiting for you to pick it up. It is quite amazing how far something will
roll, slide or bounce, even with a hexagon exterior.

After all, what do I know -- I put down a claw hammer in 1959 to have lunch
when working outside, and I still haven't managed to find it yet!

"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I lost one of my nuts.
>
> Actually, it was the table saw spindle nut used to keep the saw blade in
> place on my contractor saw.
>
> Needed to change blades.
>
> As I was taking the nut loose, dropped it onto the pile of saw dust under
> the blade.
>
> NBD, this has happened before, just reach down and get it.
>
> Ah, but this time is different, the little rascal has sunk into the saw
> dust.
>
> NBD, will just sift the saw dust and retrieve my nut.
>
> WRONG!!!
>
> Not this time.
>
> Sifted thru probably 15 gallons of saw dust, but no nut.
>
> Maybe the heat made me careless, maybe it was fate, but that nut was not
> to be found.
>
> ND.
>
> 2 blocks away is a pretty decent hardware store.
>
> Since it is a 5/8" shaft, get a 5/8-11 (coarse) and a 5/8-18 (fine), left
> hand threaded nut and head back to the yard.
>
> Looking at the shaft, it was obviously a coarse thread, but surprise, a
> standard 5/8-11 H nut doesn't fit.
>
> Done for the day, no work accomplished.
>
> Next day, call my home town hardware, who specializes in selling wood
> working tools, along with being a pretty good general hardware store, and
> ask if they stock any parts for my saw.
>
> They want a model number, which I give them, since there is more than one
> nut for these saws.
>
> YES, they have one.
>
> They didn't smile, they didn't use Vasoline, they just said, "That will be
> $8.00".
>
> A lesson learned.
>
> HANG ONTO YOUR NUTS.
>
> Lew

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Lew Hodgett on 22/07/2006 8:10 PM

25/07/2006 2:19 PM

"EXT" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

*snip*

> After all, what do I know -- I put down a claw hammer in 1959 to have
> lunch when working outside, and I still haven't managed to find it
> yet!
>

We found one in the dirt doing some driveway work a few years ago. Maybe
it was the victim of accidental teleportation and a time-capsule affect!

Puckdropper
--
Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to Lew Hodgett on 22/07/2006 8:10 PM

22/07/2006 9:29 PM

Frank Arthur wrote:
> What's your complaint Lew?
> If I lost one of my nuts and I got a replacement
> for $8.00 I wouldn't complain!

Not a complaint, rather a warning to others who might go down this
same path.

Having the part in stock justifies a price, especially if you need it NOW.

Lew

Sl

"Shopdog"

in reply to Lew Hodgett on 22/07/2006 8:10 PM

22/07/2006 10:37 PM

How about using a magnet!


Searcher

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to Lew Hodgett on 22/07/2006 8:10 PM

22/07/2006 9:35 PM

Lee Michaels wrote:

> I don't know what to say Lew. I keep thinking about the markup on
a single
> nut. Can you imagine what a saw would cost if you had to buy each
part at
> those prices?

I can't complain about the price.

Renewal parts is a tough business.

As I used to tell my distributors, "You can't sell from an empty wagon".

<snip>

> I trust you will develop some kind of procedure/ritual so you will
not have
> to go through this again.

I just may go thru that garbage can of saw dust again.


Lew

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to Lew Hodgett on 22/07/2006 8:10 PM

22/07/2006 4:59 PM


"Lew Hodgett" lamented

>I lost one of my nuts.
>
> Actually, it was the table saw spindle nut used to keep the saw blade in
> place on my contractor saw.
>
> Needed to change blades.
>
> As I was taking the nut loose, dropped it onto the pile of saw dust under
> the blade.
>
> NBD, this has happened before, just reach down and get it.
>
> Ah, but this time is different, the little rascal has sunk into the saw
> dust.
>
> NBD, will just sift the saw dust and retrieve my nut.
>
> WRONG!!!
>
> Not this time.
>
> Sifted thru probably 15 gallons of saw dust, but no nut.
>
> Maybe the heat made me careless, maybe it was fate, but that nut was not
> to be found.
>
> ND.
>
> 2 blocks away is a pretty decent hardware store.
>
> Since it is a 5/8" shaft, get a 5/8-11 (coarse) and a 5/8-18 (fine), left
> hand threaded nut and head back to the yard.
>
> Looking at the shaft, it was obviously a coarse thread, but surprise, a
> standard 5/8-11 H nut doesn't fit.
>
> Done for the day, no work accomplished.
>
> Next day, call my home town hardware, who specializes in selling wood
> working tools, along with being a pretty good general hardware store, and
> ask if they stock any parts for my saw.
>
> They want a model number, which I give them, since there is more than one
> nut for these saws.
>
> YES, they have one.
>
> They didn't smile, they didn't use Vasoline, they just said, "That will be
> $8.00".
>
> A lesson learned.
>
> HANG ONTO YOUR NUTS.
>
> Lew

I don't know what to say Lew. I keep thinking about the markup on a single
nut. Can you imagine what a saw would cost if you had to buy each part at
those prices?

I used to drop a nut now and then into the sawdust bin under my old
rockwell. I usually fished it out without any problem. But once I just
could not find it. What I did was to fire up the vacuum cleaner and sucked
out some sawdust, go through it, empty the plastic tub under the vacuum
cleaner and suck up some more sawdust.

Then that nut hit the hose and tub. It made a loud, distinctive rattle. I
fished it out and was good to go again. My room mate got me a big
industrial magnet if I had to do this again. I never had to use it though.

I trust you will develop some kind of procedure/ritual so you will not have
to go through this again.



JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to Lew Hodgett on 22/07/2006 8:10 PM

23/07/2006 7:47 AM

Lew Hodgett wrote:

> "Shopdog" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >How about using a magnet!
>
> I used to give away pocket screwdrivers with a magnet in one end.
>
> Probably ought to dig one out and put it to use.

FWIW, Home Despot has a magnet designed as a floor sweeper. Next time I
drop a box of small screws I may pick one up.

>
> Lew

--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

FA

"Frank Arthur"

in reply to Lew Hodgett on 22/07/2006 8:10 PM

22/07/2006 5:02 PM

What's your complaint Lew?
If I lost one of my nuts and I got a replacement
for $8.00 I wouldn't complain!

"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I lost one of my nuts.
>
> Actually, it was the table saw spindle nut used to keep the saw blade in
> place on my contractor saw.
>
> Needed to change blades.
>
> As I was taking the nut loose, dropped it onto the pile of saw dust under
> the blade.
>
> NBD, this has happened before, just reach down and get it.
>
> Ah, but this time is different, the little rascal has sunk into the saw
> dust.
>
> NBD, will just sift the saw dust and retrieve my nut.
>
> WRONG!!!
>
> Not this time.
>
> Sifted thru probably 15 gallons of saw dust, but no nut.
>
> Maybe the heat made me careless, maybe it was fate, but that nut was not
> to be found.
>
> ND.
>
> 2 blocks away is a pretty decent hardware store.
>
> Since it is a 5/8" shaft, get a 5/8-11 (coarse) and a 5/8-18 (fine), left
> hand threaded nut and head back to the yard.
>
> Looking at the shaft, it was obviously a coarse thread, but surprise, a
> standard 5/8-11 H nut doesn't fit.
>
> Done for the day, no work accomplished.
>
> Next day, call my home town hardware, who specializes in selling wood
> working tools, along with being a pretty good general hardware store, and
> ask if they stock any parts for my saw.
>
> They want a model number, which I give them, since there is more than one
> nut for these saws.
>
> YES, they have one.
>
> They didn't smile, they didn't use Vasoline, they just said, "That will be
> $8.00".
>
> A lesson learned.
>
> HANG ONTO YOUR NUTS.
>
> Lew

TK

Thomas Kendrick

in reply to Lew Hodgett on 22/07/2006 8:10 PM

22/07/2006 5:50 PM

Most replacement parts come with a finder feature that locates the
original part.

On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 16:36:30 -0500, Richard Cranium
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Now that you have a new one you will definitely find the old one. It
>always works that way.
>
>R.C.
>
>On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 20:10:14 GMT, Lew Hodgett
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>They didn't smile, they didn't use Vasoline, they just said, "That
>>will be $8.00".
>>
>>Lew

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to Lew Hodgett on 22/07/2006 8:10 PM

22/07/2006 5:49 PM

On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 17:50:40 -0500, Thomas Kendrick <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Most replacement parts come with a finder feature that locates the
>original part.
>

.. and with the really expensive ones (I'd say $8 qualifies), the missing
part will be found sitting on the table saw table with a questioning look
as to why you needed a replacement. BTDT

>On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 16:36:30 -0500, Richard Cranium
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Now that you have a new one you will definitely find the old one. It
>>always works that way.
>>
>>R.C.
>>
>>On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 20:10:14 GMT, Lew Hodgett
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>They didn't smile, they didn't use Vasoline, they just said, "That
>>>will be $8.00".
>>>
>>>Lew


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If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough

+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

RC

Richard Cranium

in reply to Lew Hodgett on 22/07/2006 8:10 PM

22/07/2006 4:36 PM

Now that you have a new one you will definitely find the old one. It
always works that way.

R.C.

On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 20:10:14 GMT, Lew Hodgett
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>They didn't smile, they didn't use Vasoline, they just said, "That
>will be $8.00".
>
>Lew

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to Lew Hodgett on 22/07/2006 8:10 PM

22/07/2006 11:08 PM

"Shopdog" <[email protected]> wrote:

>How about using a magnet!

I used to give away pocket screwdrivers with a magnet in one end.

Probably ought to dig one out and put it to use.

Lew

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to Lew Hodgett on 22/07/2006 8:10 PM

25/07/2006 9:35 AM

"Puckdropper" wrote in message

> > After all, what do I know -- I put down a claw hammer in 1959 to have
> > lunch when working outside, and I still haven't managed to find it
> > yet!
> >
>
> We found one in the dirt doing some driveway work a few years ago. Maybe
> it was the victim of accidental teleportation and a time-capsule affect!

I have a collection of hammers I've found on construction sites, where you
rarely see a hammer in this age of nail guns.

AAMOF, found one yesterday, old and beat all to hell, in the middle of an
upstairs room of a house under construction, a house locked after I left it
on Sunday after sweeping all the floors ... and there was no hammer at the
time.

Hammers do seem to come and go at will.

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