Hi.
I purchaed too much 18mm x 130mm t&g lacquered white oak flooring..So I have
an unopened box containing 2.2sq metres. The flooring is a mix grades A and
B.
So mostly B and some grade A. However, in all of the 7 boxes I used there
were
some really beautifil lengths.
I could get a refund...or...I could make some small items of furniture.
Any of you guys done this before?
Thanks.
Arthur
"RonB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> After we finished laying our floor we ended up with one carton of the
> finished flooring. Thought about getting a refund. Decided to keep
> it in case a "bad thing" happened to our floor. It is stored on a
> shelf in the basement. Yeah, I know replacing a board or two in the
> middle of the floor is difficult, but it is do-able.
>
> BTW - The flooring had a 25 year warranty. Not so sure about the
> company that produced it. It was acquired by a local lumber chain who
> says they will stand behind warranty of the original supplier.
>
> We'll see. Another reason to keep some backup pieces.
>
> Ron
While a good idea, consider that unless you keep the spare pieces in the
same lighting the repair will end up being a lighter or darker shade.
Still, probably better than patching with carpet or tile. ;~)
Arthur 51 wrote:
> Hi.
> I purchaed too much 18mm x 130mm t&g lacquered white oak flooring..So I have
> an unopened box containing 2.2sq metres. The flooring is a mix grades A and
> B.
> So mostly B and some grade A. However, in all of the 7 boxes I used there
> were
> some really beautifil lengths.
> I could get a refund...or...I could make some small items of furniture.
> Any of you guys done this before?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Arthur
>
>
If the box is unopened and the flooring wasn't special ordered the
seller will usually that it back. It would be worth at least a call to
the seller.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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> While a good idea, consider that unless you keep the spare pieces in the
> same lighting the repair will end up being a lighter or darker shade.
> Still, probably better than patching with carpet or tile. =A0;~)
Yeah, I thought about that too. But I just can't get my wife to let
me store an open carton of flooring in the living room.
Bull headed!
RonB
"-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>> From a previous suggestion that you mentioned, can you exactly duplicate
>>> the finish for the rest of the project, if you use it for a table top?
>>> Otherwise it will probably look like a hodge podge of scraps.
>> .
>> The scraps is what sort gave me the idea. My new floor doesn't have
>> uniformity of colour that you get with say...laminate.
>> Its very figured with a good mixture of white and a few darker pieces,
>> lighter pieces, etc. Remember, I said it was a mix
>> of grades A and B. This made me think of a lot of the oak furniture I've
>> seen in the downmarket and upmarket shops.
>> They are ALL very same colour brown and if something that looks exactly
>> like laminate it only becomes better when you mention that its made of
>> real oak
>> then it might as well be laminate I would be offering something entirely
>> different that has a wide variation in colours,
>> grain all over the place. But, nevertheless beautiful and definitely
>> NEVER to be mistaken for laminate.
>>
>
> I've seen a couple tables along the lines of what you're talking about.
> Someone used leftover flooring for the top.
> The rest was some hardwood with an ebonized finish.
> The contract was striking and attractive. It looked very professional.
>
>
>> Question : Is an item of furniture made of oak beautiful simply because
>> it made of oak and all of the pieces are colour matched?
>>
>> Arthur
>
> That presupposes one thinks oak is beautiful. That "golden oak" that you
> see in every kitchen from the 80-90's about turns my stomach. It's even
> worse on furniture, imo. Not a fan. It looks generic to me, and it's
> *way* overused. Nothing says, "homogenized, furniture store, blech,"
> like plain old golden oak.
>
Your solid experience backs up my recently acquired half formed idea,
perfectly.
And encourages me to believe I'm not weird after all :)
Arthur
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> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> From a previous suggestion that you mentioned, can you exactly duplicate
>> the finish for the rest of the project, if you use it for a table top?
>> Otherwise it will probably look like a hodge podge of scraps.
> .
> The scraps is what sort gave me the idea. My new floor doesn't have
> uniformity of colour that you get with say...laminate.
> Its very figured with a good mixture of white and a few darker pieces,
> lighter pieces, etc. Remember, I said it was a mix
> of grades A and B. This made me think of a lot of the oak furniture I've
> seen in the downmarket and upmarket shops.
> They are ALL very same colour brown and if something that looks exactly
> like laminate it only becomes better when you mention that its made of
> real oak
> then it might as well be laminate I would be offering something entirely
> different that has a wide variation in colours,
> grain all over the place. But, nevertheless beautiful and definitely
> NEVER to be mistaken for laminate.
>
> Question : Is an item of furniture made of oak beautiful simply because it
> made of oak and all of the pieces are colour matched?
You may have missed my point. Typically a mish mash does not have the same
finish "sheen". Think of touching up a flat brown colored wall with an
exact match simi-gloss or gloss.
IMHO thw entire project should have the same sheen.
"Arthur 51" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi.
> I purchaed too much 18mm x 130mm t&g lacquered white oak flooring..So I
> have
> an unopened box containing 2.2sq metres. The flooring is a mix grades A
> and B.
> So mostly B and some grade A. However, in all of the 7 boxes I used there
> were
> some really beautifil lengths.
> I could get a refund...or...I could make some small items of furniture.
> Any of you guys done this before?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Arthur
>
From a previous suggestion that you mentioned, can you exactly duplicate the
finish for the rest of the project, if you use it for a table top?
Otherwise it will probably look like a hodge podge of scraps.
After we finished laying our floor we ended up with one carton of the
finished flooring. Thought about getting a refund. Decided to keep
it in case a "bad thing" happened to our floor. It is stored on a
shelf in the basement. Yeah, I know replacing a board or two in the
middle of the floor is difficult, but it is do-able.
BTW - The flooring had a 25 year warranty. Not so sure about the
company that produced it. It was acquired by a local lumber chain who
says they will stand behind warranty of the original supplier.
We'll see. Another reason to keep some backup pieces.
Ron
"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Arthur 51 wrote:
>> Hi.
>> I purchaed too much 18mm x 130mm t&g lacquered white oak flooring..So I
>> have
>> an unopened box containing 2.2sq metres. The flooring is a mix grades A
>> and B.
>> So mostly B and some grade A. However, in all of the 7 boxes I used
>> there were
>> some really beautifil lengths.
>> I could get a refund...or...I could make some small items of furniture.
>> Any of you guys done this before?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Arthur
>
> If the box is unopened and the flooring wasn't special ordered the seller
> will usually that it back. It would be worth at least a call to the
> seller.
>
I got this flooring while it was on offer....like half price so if I get a
refund it will be enough
to buy perhaps 2 or 3 boards of 3/4" x 6" x 10ft.
The advantage of using the flooring is I can pick out the best 7 or 8
lengths and just simply glue
them together using the existing t & g edges. Then a couple of hours with a
router and hey presto
I've got an unusual coffee table top that I could sell for 4 or 5 times what
I paid for those 8 boards.
A bit like asset stripping :)
Arthur
Arthur 51 wrote:
> Hi.
> I purchaed too much 18mm x 130mm t&g lacquered white oak flooring..So I have
> an unopened box containing 2.2sq metres. The flooring is a mix grades A and
> B.
> So mostly B and some grade A. However, in all of the 7 boxes I used there
> were
> some really beautifil lengths.
> I could get a refund...or...I could make some small items of furniture.
> Any of you guys done this before?
Well, I've cut up leftover unfinished flooring certainly.
Don't know what you paid for it, but my thought on prefinished w/ that
much unopened would be you can probably buy quite a lot of 1C or better
white oak for the same or less money.
Since I'd think it hard to manage to build anything with it w/o harming
the finish anyway plus having to try to match it, I'd probably take it
back and use the $$ for something else.
--
Arthur 51 wrote:
...
> The advantage of using the flooring is I can pick out the best 7 or 8
> lengths and just simply glue them together using the existing t & g
> edges. Then a couple of hours with a router and hey presto
> I've got an unusual coffee table top that I could sell for 4 or 5
> times what I paid for those 8 boards.
...
If that's so,
a) why come here and ask for opinions, and
b) that would seem to contradict the difficulty most have in trying to
make a worthwhile living in woodworking...
--
Arthur 51 wrote:
> "dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Arthur 51 wrote:
>> ...
>>> The advantage of using the flooring is I can pick out the best 7 or
>>> 8 lengths and just simply glue them together using the existing t &
>>> g edges. Then a couple of hours with a router and hey presto
>>> I've got an unusual coffee table top that I could sell for 4 or 5
>>> times what I paid for those 8 boards.
>> ...
>> If that's so,
>>
>> a) why come here and ask for opinions, and
>
> From original post I guess I was just asking around to see of anyone
> alse had had the same idea.
>
>> b) that would seem to contradict the difficulty most have in trying
>> to make a worthwhile living in woodworking...
>
> Discussion
> -----------
> The exchange of ideas.
>
> This idea is more likely to help a struggling artisan than undermine
> him/her.
> If it would take me a few hours to prduce a table that would look
> 'ok' a skilled man could produce something
> excellent in half the time. He could sell in small volume and make a
> steady sideline until a high
> paying job comes along.
How much you make depends on your marketing and sales skills more than on
your production skills. That skilled man who can produce something
excellent in half the time may not have the marketing and sales ability to
move his production at a price that gives him enough income to live on.
>
> Arthur
>> From a previous suggestion that you mentioned, can you exactly duplicate
>> the finish for the rest of the project, if you use it for a table top?
>> Otherwise it will probably look like a hodge podge of scraps.
> .
> The scraps is what sort gave me the idea. My new floor doesn't have
> uniformity of colour that you get with say...laminate.
> Its very figured with a good mixture of white and a few darker pieces,
> lighter pieces, etc. Remember, I said it was a mix
> of grades A and B. This made me think of a lot of the oak furniture I've
> seen in the downmarket and upmarket shops.
> They are ALL very same colour brown and if something that looks exactly like
> laminate it only becomes better when you mention that its made of real oak
> then it might as well be laminate I would be offering something entirely
> different that has a wide variation in colours,
> grain all over the place. But, nevertheless beautiful and definitely NEVER
> to be mistaken for laminate.
>
I've seen a couple tables along the lines of what you're talking about.
Someone used leftover flooring for the top.
The rest was some hardwood with an ebonized finish.
The contract was striking and attractive. It looked very professional.
> Question : Is an item of furniture made of oak beautiful simply because it
> made of oak and all of the pieces are colour matched?
>
> Arthur
>
That presupposes one thinks oak is beautiful. That "golden oak" that you
see in every kitchen from the 80-90's about turns my stomach. It's even
worse on furniture, imo. Not a fan. It looks generic to me, and it's
*way* overused. Nothing says, "homogenized, furniture store, blech,"
like plain old golden oak.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
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> Your solid experience backs up my recently acquired half formed idea,
> perfectly.
> And encourages me to believe I'm not weird after all :)
>
> Arthur
>
I've noticed there are many in here who are quick to "wax pessimistic"
and love to argue for the sake of arguing.
In any case, I wish I could remember the specifics, but the place I saw
the table I mentioned was some sort of showcase for recycled art... art
made with recycled stuff or by re-using stuff.
The furniture I saw was very modern and lots of it, very simple. It took
a very artful and nonconforming mind to come up with the stuff, but it
was all beautiful. It was also clear to me that whoever built them had
the skills and tools necessary to have done it all from raw materials,
but chose to use pre-made stuff, like that leftover flooring.
One of the table tops had a rough texture to it with a v-groove on the
linear seems, with no butt seems at all along the length, meaning it
looked like four or five long pieces of solid wood, edge joined together.
It was similar to this picture...
<http://z.about.com/d/homerenovations/1/0/m/7/-/-/engineered-wood-flooring.jpg>
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-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
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-MIKE- wrote:
>> Your solid experience backs up my recently acquired half formed idea,
>> perfectly.
>> And encourages me to believe I'm not weird after all :)
>>
>> Arthur
>
> I've noticed there are many in here who are quick to "wax pessimistic"
> and love to argue for the sake of arguing.
I doubt you have the brains to notice anything, and for Pete's sake what's the point in
arguing just for the sake of it? Get your facts straight, will ya?
How's that? :-)
--
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To reply, eat the taco.
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Steve Turner wrote:
> -MIKE- wrote:
>>> Your solid experience backs up my recently acquired half formed idea,
>>> perfectly.
>>> And encourages me to believe I'm not weird after all :)
>>>
>>> Arthur
>>
>> I've noticed there are many in here who are quick to "wax pessimistic"
>> and love to argue for the sake of arguing.
>
> I doubt you have the brains to notice anything, and for Pete's sake
> what's the point in arguing just for the sake of it? Get your facts
> straight, will ya?
>
> How's that? :-)
>
Pretty good, nimrod. :-)
(Your other sig file is getting some good mileage on my facebook page.)
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
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[email protected]
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-MIKE- wrote:
> Steve Turner wrote:
>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>> I've noticed there are many in here who are quick to "wax pessimistic"
>>> and love to argue for the sake of arguing.
>>
>> I doubt you have the brains to notice anything, and for Pete's sake
>> what's the point in arguing just for the sake of it? Get your facts
>> straight, will ya?
>>
>> How's that? :-)
>>
>
> Pretty good, nimrod. :-)
>
> (Your other sig file is getting some good mileage on my facebook page.)
Well if it can help save just one guy from the fallout of complaining when he's not happy,
then by all means, keep using it. :-)
--
"Even if your wife is happy but you're unhappy, you're still happier
than you'd be if you were happy and your wife was unhappy." - Red Green
To reply, eat the taco.
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Arthur 51 wrote:
> Hi.
> I purchaed too much 18mm x 130mm t&g lacquered white oak flooring..So I have
> an unopened box containing 2.2sq metres. The flooring is a mix grades A and
> B.
> So mostly B and some grade A. However, in all of the 7 boxes I used there
> were
> some really beautifil lengths.
> I could get a refund...or...I could make some small items of furniture.
> Any of you guys done this before?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Arthur
>
>
When my parents bought their current house I remarked that all the
kitchen cabinets looked as though they were made from flooring.
Guess what? The guy who remodeled the kitchen was a flooring contractor!
So, there's one idea, but to be honest, kitchen cabinets made of
flooring look like flooring on the wall. Maybe the table ideas are better.
Or how about a really nice toolbox? Picture frames? Wastebaskets?
Stepstools? etc.
con mucho gusto,
Juanito the Clumsy
[email protected]
Arthur 51 wrote:
> Hi.
> I purchaed too much 18mm x 130mm t&g lacquered white oak flooring..So I have
> an unopened box containing 2.2sq metres. The flooring is a mix grades A and
> B.
> So mostly B and some grade A. However, in all of the 7 boxes I used there
> were
> some really beautifil lengths.
> I could get a refund...or...I could make some small items of furniture.
> Any of you guys done this before?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Arthur
>
>
When my parents bought their current house I remarked that all the
kitchen cabinets looked as though they were made from flooring.
Guess what? The guy who remodeled the kitchen was a flooring contractor!
So, there's one idea, but to be honest, kitchen cabinets made of
flooring look like flooring on the wall. Maybe the table ideas are better.
Or how about a really nice toolbox? Picture frames? Wastebaskets?
Stepstools? etc.
con mucho gusto,
Juanito the Clumsy
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Arthur 51" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Hi.
>> I purchaed too much 18mm x 130mm t&g lacquered white oak flooring..So I
>> have
>> an unopened box containing 2.2sq metres. The flooring is a mix grades A
>> and B.
>> So mostly B and some grade A. However, in all of the 7 boxes I used
>> there were
>> some really beautifil lengths.
>> I could get a refund...or...I could make some small items of furniture.
>> Any of you guys done this before?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Arthur
>>
>
>
> From a previous suggestion that you mentioned, can you exactly duplicate
> the finish for the rest of the project, if you use it for a table top?
> Otherwise it will probably look like a hodge podge of scraps.
.
The scraps is what sort gave me the idea. My new floor doesn't have
uniformity of colour that you get with say...laminate.
Its very figured with a good mixture of white and a few darker pieces,
lighter pieces, etc. Remember, I said it was a mix
of grades A and B. This made me think of a lot of the oak furniture I've
seen in the downmarket and upmarket shops.
They are ALL very same colour brown and if something that looks exactly like
laminate it only becomes better when you mention that its made of real oak
then it might as well be laminate I would be offering something entirely
different that has a wide variation in colours,
grain all over the place. But, nevertheless beautiful and definitely NEVER
to be mistaken for laminate.
Question : Is an item of furniture made of oak beautiful simply because it
made of oak and all of the pieces are colour matched?
Arthur
On 11/02/2009 04:41 PM, Arthur 51 wrote:
> I purchaed too much 18mm x 130mm t&g lacquered white oak flooring.
> I could get a refund...or...I could make some small items of furniture.
> Any of you guys done this before?
You're going to end up with obvious lines between the boards unless you
sand the existing finish off and level the boards. If that's the look
you want then go for it.
Personally I have a bunch of prefinished birch left over. I'm thinking
about making some small boxes and stuff, primarily for the shop. But
I'm probably going to bandsaw the finish off and resaw it to 1/2" or
thinner.
Chris
"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Arthur 51 wrote:
> ...
>> The advantage of using the flooring is I can pick out the best 7 or 8
>> lengths and just simply glue them together using the existing t & g
>> edges. Then a couple of hours with a router and hey presto
>> I've got an unusual coffee table top that I could sell for 4 or 5
>> times what I paid for those 8 boards.
> ...
> If that's so,
>
> a) why come here and ask for opinions, and
From original post I guess I was just asking around to see of anyone alse
had had the same idea.
> b) that would seem to contradict the difficulty most have in trying to
> make a worthwhile living in woodworking...
Discussion
-----------
The exchange of ideas.
This idea is more likely to help a struggling artisan than undermine
him/her.
If it would take me a few hours to prduce a table that would look 'ok' a
skilled man could produce something
excellent in half the time. He could sell in small volume and make a steady
sideline until a high
paying job comes along.
Arthur