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Silvan

25/10/2003 10:17 PM

Debugging lacquer.

Sprayed some Deft on an item I spent THREE WEEKS making.

The finish looks nice on one side.

Turn it over, and there's a damn MOSQUITO stuck splayed out like it tried to
stop itself when it realized what it was about to hit.

I wasn't very successful at removing the mosquito.

I'd like some advice before I screw this up any further.

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Dave Balderstone

in reply to Silvan on 25/10/2003 10:17 PM

25/10/2003 11:56 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Turn it over, and there's a damn MOSQUITO stuck splayed out like it tried to
> stop itself when it realized what it was about to hit.

It's not a bug... It's a feature.

;-)

djb

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Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 25/10/2003 10:17 PM

28/10/2003 9:30 AM

Kevin L. Bowling wrote:

> ceilings in one night using bright lights. Another guy and myself must've
> spent 40 hours or more sanding all the bugs out. The house was near the
> Little Miami River in summer or late spring and a massive hatch of
> mayflies (or something like that) occured. Not to mention mosquitoes and
> beetles.We had to repaint the entire house.

LMAO!

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Nova

in reply to Silvan on 25/10/2003 10:17 PM

27/10/2003 1:19 AM

Silvan wrote:

> I guess I'll just chisel the legs out and re-spray and let it go. That or
> dip the whole thing in some kind of stripper, but no, I'll just fake it as
> best I can and leave it alone.

Use a razor blade as a scraper and carefully remove the parts.

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"Eric Tonks"

in reply to Silvan on 25/10/2003 10:17 PM

26/10/2003 11:08 AM

This used to happen to cars when my father would paint in enamel and lacquer
in the 50's because there was a pig farm about 1/2 mile away to generate an
unlimited supply of flys to walk through the wet paint.

First trick: Hang around wet finish and remove the insect with tweezers, the
finish will often flow back as it sets.

Second trick: With lacquer (not slow drying enamel) get some polishing
compound, and hand buff the surface and insect, you will buff the surface
smooth. If you have a lot of coats, you may need little else, if there is
only one or a thin layer of lacquer, you may have to recoat -- be care full
to not go through the finish, especially if it is near an edge.

"Jim Stuyck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:chNmb.24840$275.34684@attbi_s53...
>
> "Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Sprayed some Deft on an item I spent THREE WEEKS making.
> >
> > The finish looks nice on one side.
> >
> > Turn it over, and there's a damn MOSQUITO stuck splayed out like it
tried
> to
> > stop itself when it realized what it was about to hit.
> >
> > I wasn't very successful at removing the mosquito.
> >
> > I'd like some advice before I screw this up any further.
>
> A little lacquer thinner will remove the lacquer AND the insect.
> Rub a little thinner on the area, clean it up, then respray.
>
> Jim Stuyck
>
>

KL

"Kevin L. Bowling"

in reply to Silvan on 25/10/2003 10:17 PM

28/10/2003 7:23 AM

Years ago I worked for a homebuilder who hired a painterwho had a day job
at Proctor and Gamble or somewhere like that. Did all his paintings after
hours and on weekends. He brought in a crew and painted the walls and
ceilings in one night using bright lights. Another guy and myself must've
spent 40 hours or more sanding all the bugs out. The house was near the
Little Miami River in summer or late spring and a massive hatch of mayflies
(or something like that) occured. Not to mention mosquitoes and beetles.We
had to repaint the entire house.

Kevin

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to Silvan on 25/10/2003 10:17 PM

26/10/2003 6:34 AM

Silvan wrote:
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>
>>> Turn it over, and there's a damn MOSQUITO stuck splayed out like it
>>> tried to stop itself when it realized what it was about to hit.
>>
>> It's not a bug... It's a feature.
>>
>> ;-)
>
> Yeah, well, I can't argue with that logic. It *is* a feature for
> sure.

Remember "Jurassic Park" and the mosquito in the amber? Could you pretent
it's that kind of feature? <g>

-- Mark

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Silvan on 25/10/2003 10:17 PM

26/10/2003 6:23 AM

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:17:07 -0400, Silvan
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:

>Sprayed some Deft on an item I spent THREE WEEKS making.
>
>The finish looks nice on one side.
>
>Turn it over, and there's a damn MOSQUITO stuck splayed out like it tried to
>stop itself when it realized what it was about to hit.
>
>I wasn't very successful at removing the mosquito.
>
>I'd like some advice before I screw this up any further.

Find some nice, fine-point tweezers and pluck it out when
still wet. (Fat chance of that now, huh?)

I guess there are two choices:

1) Find a solvent which will clean it (the flat surface in
question) off swimmingly and respray that surface.

or

2) Sand 'er down, tack 'er off, and do it again.


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Mark & Juanita

in reply to Silvan on 25/10/2003 10:17 PM

27/10/2003 5:41 AM

In article <251020032356233749%[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> In article <[email protected]>, Silvan
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Turn it over, and there's a damn MOSQUITO stuck splayed out like it tried to
> > stop itself when it realized what it was about to hit.
>
> It's not a bug... It's a feature.
>
> ;-)
>
> djb
>
>

Dang it! Warn a fellow would you? [Where's the Windex and paper
towels?]. You do know how hard it is to get tea off a screen, don't ya?

JS

"Jim Stuyck"

in reply to Silvan on 25/10/2003 10:17 PM

26/10/2003 10:24 AM


"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sprayed some Deft on an item I spent THREE WEEKS making.
>
> The finish looks nice on one side.
>
> Turn it over, and there's a damn MOSQUITO stuck splayed out like it tried
to
> stop itself when it realized what it was about to hit.
>
> I wasn't very successful at removing the mosquito.
>
> I'd like some advice before I screw this up any further.

A little lacquer thinner will remove the lacquer AND the insect.
Rub a little thinner on the area, clean it up, then respray.

Jim Stuyck

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 25/10/2003 10:17 PM

26/10/2003 1:24 AM

Dave Balderstone wrote:

>> Turn it over, and there's a damn MOSQUITO stuck splayed out like it tried
>> to stop itself when it realized what it was about to hit.
>
> It's not a bug... It's a feature.
>
> ;-)

Yeah, well, I can't argue with that logic. It *is* a feature for sure.

--
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Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 25/10/2003 10:17 PM

27/10/2003 1:24 AM

[email protected] wrote:

> Furthermore it wasn't a mosquito. it was a "feepiing".
>
> Just another instance of feeping creaturism.

UGH!

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a

in reply to Silvan on 25/10/2003 10:17 PM

26/10/2003 1:29 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>Dave Balderstone wrote:
>
>>> Turn it over, and there's a damn MOSQUITO stuck splayed out like it tried
>>> to stop itself when it realized what it was about to hit.
>>
>> It's not a bug... It's a feature.
>>
>> ;-)
>
>Yeah, well, I can't argue with that logic. It *is* a feature for sure.

Furthermore it wasn't a mosquito. it was a "feepiing".


Just another instance of feeping creaturism.

BB

Bob Bowles

in reply to Silvan on 25/10/2003 10:17 PM

27/10/2003 8:04 AM

PSL is waterbased lacquer and had 100% burnin for following coats.
MUCH easier than solvent stuff. www.targetcoatoings.com makes it.

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 01:28:46 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I might not bother to re-spray,
>since I broke my respirator, and have no particular desire to experience
>lacquer fumes again.

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Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 25/10/2003 10:17 PM

27/10/2003 1:28 AM

Nova wrote:

> Use a razor blade as a scraper and carefully remove the parts.

OK, you can all turn off your thinking caps now, and thanks. I pretty much
did just that. It was a pocket knife. Same difference.

Actually, the finish looks OK after all that. I buffed it out with my shirt
tail, and I can't see the trouble spot. I might not bother to re-spray,
since I broke my respirator, and have no particular desire to experience
lacquer fumes again.

Probably I'll just paste wax it from here and let it go.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

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Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 25/10/2003 10:17 PM

26/10/2003 8:05 PM

Larry Jaques wrote:

> Find some nice, fine-point tweezers and pluck it out when
> still wet. (Fat chance of that now, huh?)

Yeah, it was too late for that 15 minutes after I sprayed it.

> 1) Find a solvent which will clean it (the flat surface in
> question) off swimmingly and respray that surface.

Who said anything about *flat*?

> 2) Sand 'er down, tack 'er off, and do it again.

Either of those is going to suck. The item in question really doesn't have
much of any flat to it. I sanded the parts individually before assembling
them, and now that everything is glued together (about 15 very small
parts), there's nothing easy about that prospect.

It's only part of a mosquito now. Just the legs. In retrospect, it would
probably have been more amusing to leave the whole thing.

I guess I'll just chisel the legs out and re-spray and let it go. That or
dip the whole thing in some kind of stripper, but no, I'll just fake it as
best I can and leave it alone.

Excrement occurs.

--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/


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