JP

"Jay Pique"

10/04/2006 6:19 PM

Dead EWP

Well, the old pine just north of the house is officially dead in the
ground. It was dead last year, but I wanted to be sure I didn't have a
dead-ringer on my hands.

I'd like to salvage a bit of wood from it and make <something> from it.
Despite the sap, it afforded the best views when climbed, so I figure
I'll make a rustic frame for a panoramic photo taken from the top.

My question is this - should I limb it and let it season in the ground
a couple years before felling it? I've read about that being done with
old hardwoods before. It'd make a great flagpole for a few years.

JP
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Nope, nada, no research whatsoever.


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"marson"

in reply to "Jay Pique" on 10/04/2006 6:19 PM

10/04/2006 6:59 PM

i've tried to salvage standing dead eastern white pines before and
found them rotten to the point where they don't even make decent
kindling. at best, only the heartwood was still sound.

JP

"Jay Pique"

in reply to "Jay Pique" on 10/04/2006 6:19 PM

11/04/2006 4:28 AM


Gooey TARBALLS wrote:
> Could one drill a "core sample?"
>
> Would that help determine the condition without impacting the yield
> significantly?

I'm just going to fell it and be done with it. Que sera sera.

JP

p

in reply to "Jay Pique" on 10/04/2006 6:19 PM

11/04/2006 6:04 AM

<snip comment about the difficulty of re-sawing older wood>

Interesting! I have some 4" x 8" beams of beautiful quartersawn white
oak that I salvaged during our remodel two years ago that I am
intending to re-saw part of to make various furniture projects.

Any suggestions besides a really good re-saw blade? I have never
actually re-sawn myself, but my neighbor has a nice 18" Laguna BS and I
was going to buy my own re-saw blade for use when I use his saw.

TIA

D'ohBoy

JP

"Jay Pique"

in reply to "Jay Pique" on 10/04/2006 6:19 PM

11/04/2006 8:51 AM


[email protected] wrote:
> <snip comment about the difficulty of re-sawing older wood>
>
> Interesting! I have some 4" x 8" beams of beautiful quartersawn white
> oak that I salvaged during our remodel two years ago that I am
> intending to re-saw part of to make various furniture projects.
>
> Any suggestions besides a really good re-saw blade? I have never
> actually re-sawn myself, but my neighbor has a nice 18" Laguna BS and I
> was going to buy my own re-saw blade for use when I use his saw.

Infeed and outfeed support/rollers.

JP

ee

in reply to "Jay Pique" on 10/04/2006 6:19 PM

11/04/2006 10:42 AM

"My question is this - should I limb it and let it season in the ground
a couple years before felling it? I've read about that being done with
old hardwoods before. It'd make a great flagpole for a few years. "

After just one weekend volunteering for the sawmill at a local steam
thresheree and chatting with the folks who brought logs to get cut up
for real cheap, I've come to the conclusion that fallen or standing
logs don't actually "dry". They rot. Sometimes to the point where a
healthy-looking log will be nothing but a cylinder of good wood
surrounding a whole lot of dust and bugs. It looks like a year is the
longest you can leave it, and then you're still taking a chance.

JH

John Heacock

in reply to "Jay Pique" on 10/04/2006 6:19 PM

11/04/2006 2:35 PM

On 10 Apr 2006 18:19:38 -0700, "Jay Pique" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Well, the old pine just north of the house is officially dead in the
>ground. It was dead last year, but I wanted to be sure I didn't have a
>dead-ringer on my hands.
>
>I'd like to salvage a bit of wood from it and make <something> from it.
> Despite the sap, it afforded the best views when climbed, so I figure
>I'll make a rustic frame for a panoramic photo taken from the top.
>
>My question is this - should I limb it and let it season in the ground
>a couple years before felling it? I've read about that being done with
>old hardwoods before. It'd make a great flagpole for a few years.
>
>JP
>*************************************************
>Nope, nada, no research whatsoever.

I don't know about where you live, but around here, the termites will
do away with the roots within a year and the tree falls, sometimes
with bad results.
John in SC

GT

"Gooey TARBALLS"

in reply to "Jay Pique" on 10/04/2006 6:19 PM

11/04/2006 2:53 AM

Could one drill a "core sample?"

Would that help determine the condition without impacting the yield
significantly?


"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well, the old pine just north of the house is officially dead in the
> ground. It was dead last year, but I wanted to be sure I didn't have a
> dead-ringer on my hands.
>
> I'd like to salvage a bit of wood from it and make <something> from it.
> Despite the sap, it afforded the best views when climbed, so I figure
> I'll make a rustic frame for a panoramic photo taken from the top.
>
> My question is this - should I limb it and let it season in the ground
> a couple years before felling it? I've read about that being done with
> old hardwoods before. It'd make a great flagpole for a few years.
>
> JP
> *************************************************
> Nope, nada, no research whatsoever.
>

MM

"Max Mahanke"

in reply to "Jay Pique" on 10/04/2006 6:19 PM

11/04/2006 3:47 AM

Trees want to be milled when they're green. After they dry out it gets
harder (in more than one sense). I remember a 35 year old plank of 4" thick
hickory that I had to re-saw for a client to make a mantle shelf. The
bandsaw mill owner charged me for the blade after 1 cut. If you want to
mill the wood, cut it down and mill it before it drys out.
"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well, the old pine just north of the house is officially dead in the
> ground. It was dead last year, but I wanted to be sure I didn't have a
> dead-ringer on my hands.
>
> I'd like to salvage a bit of wood from it and make <something> from it.
> Despite the sap, it afforded the best views when climbed, so I figure
> I'll make a rustic frame for a panoramic photo taken from the top.
>
> My question is this - should I limb it and let it season in the ground
> a couple years before felling it? I've read about that being done with
> old hardwoods before. It'd make a great flagpole for a few years.
>
> JP
> *************************************************
> Nope, nada, no research whatsoever.
>


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