ZR

"Zed Rafi"

27/10/2004 1:55 PM

Woodworking book

Hello again,

I'm looking for a comprehensive woodworking book.
I'm looking for something very complete, enjoyable to read and educational,
that would guide me through the basics (how to properly use chisels for
example, or how to make a tenon-and-mortise joint) and also through more
advanced topics and would give plans for basic projects. Preferably, i'd
like something that covers both manual AND power tools techniques.

Any recommendations?

Thanks


This topic has 23 replies

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

28/10/2004 4:57 PM

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:08:06 +1000, "Greg Millen"
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:

>Larry,
>
>your constant mentioning of my page has finally forced an update of the
>content. I have quoted Phisherman, so if there is any problem let me know
>and I'll remove it immediately.

It's fine, thank you. Carry on, Jeeves.


--
"Given the low level of competence among politicians,
every American should become a Libertarian."
-- Charley Reese, Alameda Times-Star (California), June 17, 2003

Cu

"Curtis"

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

27/10/2004 10:06 PM

$17.39 + $1.40 shipping at Overstock.com...

http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?PAGE=PROFRAME&PROD_ID=138176

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A book that partly fills your needs is Tage Frid Teaches Woodworking
> books 1$2 bound together about $30.00. Describes how-to for many
> joints and describes machine and hand methods.
>
> On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:55:44 -0400, "Zed Rafi" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Hello again,
> >
> >I'm looking for a comprehensive woodworking book.
> >I'm looking for something very complete, enjoyable to read and
educational,
> >that would guide me through the basics (how to properly use chisels for
> >example, or how to make a tenon-and-mortise joint) and also through more
> >advanced topics and would give plans for basic projects. Preferably, i'd
> >like something that covers both manual AND power tools techniques.
> >
> >Any recommendations?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
>

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

28/10/2004 11:32 AM

No problem. But I'm sure Lee explains "candle" better than I.

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:08:06 +1000, "Greg Millen"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Larry,
>
>your constant mentioning of my page has finally forced an update of the
>content. I have quoted Phisherman, so if there is any problem let me know
>and I'll remove it immediately.

AD

Andy Dingley

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

27/10/2004 7:57 PM

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:55:44 -0400, "Zed Rafi" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I'm looking for a comprehensive woodworking book.

Tage Frid's first book (two volumes in one).

Then Flexner is good on finishing.
--
Smert' spamionam

xc

10x

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

31/10/2004 9:11 AM

In article <[email protected]>, RBK
<[email protected]> wrote:

> It is one of the best of the group. To bad it's so hard to find a used copy.
>
>
> "John bobbitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > I like the approach in "The Fundamentals of Fine Woodworking" by Robert
> > Ferencsik and Will Neptune.

It all depends where you look :-)


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0806942509/qid=1099231734/
sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/102-0443193-7424902?v=glance&s=books

If your news reader can't handle the long url, you may have to cut and
paste it into your browser.



Joe

aka 10x

Di

Dave in Fairfax

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

27/10/2004 9:04 PM

Zed Rafi wrote:
> This book looks very good.
> Does it have a section explaining how to sharpen handtools (chisels,
> block/smoothing plane blades, etc....) ?

That would be your other book, Leonard Lee's opus on sharpening.
Dave in Fairfax
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Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

27/10/2004 10:44 PM

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:04:38 GMT, Dave in Fairfax <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Zed Rafi wrote:
>> This book looks very good.
>> Does it have a section explaining how to sharpen handtools (chisels,
>> block/smoothing plane blades, etc....) ?
>
>That would be your other book, Leonard Lee's opus on sharpening.
>Dave in Fairfax

I have to agree, Leonard Lee's book is outstanding. Woodworking
without sharp tools is no fun. This book explains the "candle" on the
edge of a tool, something important that I was not aware.

RM

"Russ Milbeck"

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

29/10/2004 3:47 AM

This book was our high school woodworking class text book.
Excellant read.

"RonB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Hz6gd.31752$EZ.7628@okepread07...
> >Check Greg Millen's book review page for some of our Wreck favorites.
> > http://woodworking.homeip.net/wood/reference/books.htm
>
> Greg's summary includes "Cabinetmaking and Millwork - John Feirer, Bennett
> Publishing" I acquired this book when I took a college-level intro to
> cabinetmaking class during the late 1970's. The version I have is dated
to
> that era but most of the information will never change. I believe an '80s
> update exists and new/used books are available from Amazon.com. Even
though
> it is nearly 40 years old, apparently it is still being used because
Amazon
> offers teaching guides dated 1999.
>
> In spite of being dated, this is the book I dig out most often when trying
> to figue out casing design, tools, technique, etc. At 900+ pages it
covers
> everything from wood properties, power tools, furniture design, production
> techniques, etc. Well illustrated with photos, process sketches and
> design-type (drafted) drawings.
>
> Good book, a little heavy.
>
>

Jb

"John bobbitt"

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

27/10/2004 7:06 PM

I like the approach in "The Fundamentals of Fine Woodworking" by Robert
Ferencsik and Will Neptune.

-jbb

"Zed Rafi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello again,
>
> I'm looking for a comprehensive woodworking book.
> I'm looking for something very complete, enjoyable to read and
> educational,
> that would guide me through the basics (how to properly use chisels for
> example, or how to make a tenon-and-mortise joint) and also through more
> advanced topics and would give plans for basic projects. Preferably, i'd
> like something that covers both manual AND power tools techniques.
>
> Any recommendations?
>
> Thanks
>
>

Rr

"RBK"

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

31/10/2004 12:41 AM

It is one of the best of the group. To bad it's so hard to find a used copy.


"John bobbitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I like the approach in "The Fundamentals of Fine Woodworking" by Robert
> Ferencsik and Will Neptune.
>
> -jbb
>
> "Zed Rafi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hello again,
> >
> > I'm looking for a comprehensive woodworking book.
> > I'm looking for something very complete, enjoyable to read and
> > educational,
> > that would guide me through the basics (how to properly use chisels for
> > example, or how to make a tenon-and-mortise joint) and also through more
> > advanced topics and would give plans for basic projects. Preferably, i'd
> > like something that covers both manual AND power tools techniques.
> >
> > Any recommendations?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
>
>

Rr

"RonB"

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

28/10/2004 8:34 AM

>Check Greg Millen's book review page for some of our Wreck favorites.
> http://woodworking.homeip.net/wood/reference/books.htm

Greg's summary includes "Cabinetmaking and Millwork - John Feirer, Bennett
Publishing" I acquired this book when I took a college-level intro to
cabinetmaking class during the late 1970's. The version I have is dated to
that era but most of the information will never change. I believe an '80s
update exists and new/used books are available from Amazon.com. Even though
it is nearly 40 years old, apparently it is still being used because Amazon
offers teaching guides dated 1999.

In spite of being dated, this is the book I dig out most often when trying
to figue out casing design, tools, technique, etc. At 900+ pages it covers
everything from wood properties, power tools, furniture design, production
techniques, etc. Well illustrated with photos, process sketches and
design-type (drafted) drawings.

Good book, a little heavy.

ZR

"Zed Rafi"

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

27/10/2004 3:21 PM

This book looks very good.
Does it have a section explaining how to sharpen handtools (chisels,
block/smoothing plane blades, etc....) ?


"Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news:[email protected]...
> "Tage Frid teaches woodworking" fits the bill. Very comprehensive and
> extremely well done. A classic, really.
>
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1561580686/qid=1098902201/sr=8
> -1/ref=pd_csp_1/102-5674693-5426533?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
>
>
> "Zed Rafi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hello again,
> >
> > I'm looking for a comprehensive woodworking book.
> > I'm looking for something very complete, enjoyable to read and
> educational,
> > that would guide me through the basics (how to properly use chisels for
> > example, or how to make a tenon-and-mortise joint) and also through more
> > advanced topics and would give plans for basic projects. Preferably, i'd
> > like something that covers both manual AND power tools techniques.
> >
> > Any recommendations?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
>
>

GM

"Greg Millen"

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

30/10/2004 12:25 AM

<re - "candle"> I had a look but couldn't find it. Please tell me what page
so I don't have to re-read the whole thing again!

--

Greg


"Phisherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> No problem. But I'm sure Lee explains "candle" better than I.
>
> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:08:06 +1000, "Greg Millen"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Larry,
>>
>>your constant mentioning of my page has finally forced an update of the
>>content. I have quoted Phisherman, so if there is any problem let me know
>>and I'll remove it immediately.
>

ff

"firstjois"

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

27/10/2004 3:21 PM

Andy Dingley wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:55:44 -0400, "Zed Rafi" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking for a comprehensive woodworking book.
>>
>> Tage Frid's first book (two volumes in one).
>>
>> Then Flexner is good on finishing.
>> --
>> Smert' spamionam

Just rec'd the Frid 2 volumes in one by looking at $$$ in

http://used.addall.com/

cost of used plus postage = $ 22.xx

I'm probably going to keep it in the shop (eventually) as a reference so
there was no point in getting a brand spanking new copy.

Josie

GG

Greg G.

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

27/10/2004 9:13 PM

Phisherman said:

>On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:04:38 GMT, Dave in Fairfax <[email protected]>
>wrote:

>>That would be your other book, Leonard Lee's opus on sharpening.
>>Dave in Fairfax
>
>I have to agree, Leonard Lee's book is outstanding. Woodworking
>without sharp tools is no fun. This book explains the "candle" on the
>edge of a tool, something important that I was not aware.

Candle? Please explain in 50 words or less... ;-)


Greg G.

Mi

"Mike in Mystic"

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

27/10/2004 6:38 PM

"Tage Frid teaches woodworking" fits the bill. Very comprehensive and
extremely well done. A classic, really.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1561580686/qid=1098902201/sr=8
-1/ref=pd_csp_1/102-5674693-5426533?v=glance&s=books&n=507846


"Zed Rafi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello again,
>
> I'm looking for a comprehensive woodworking book.
> I'm looking for something very complete, enjoyable to read and
educational,
> that would guide me through the basics (how to properly use chisels for
> example, or how to make a tenon-and-mortise joint) and also through more
> advanced topics and would give plans for basic projects. Preferably, i'd
> like something that covers both manual AND power tools techniques.
>
> Any recommendations?
>
> Thanks
>
>

R

Ron

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

01/11/2004 1:12 PM

The cheapest copy is $75.00 for one in acceptable condition with the
price going up to $100 for others. I think I'd wait. I recently got
one on EBAY for around $20.00 and I'm sure others will eventually show
up.

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 09:11:13 -0500, 10x <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, RBK
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> It is one of the best of the group. To bad it's so hard to find a used copy.
>>
>>
>> "John bobbitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > I like the approach in "The Fundamentals of Fine Woodworking" by Robert
>> > Ferencsik and Will Neptune.
>
>It all depends where you look :-)
>
>
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0806942509/qid=1099231734/
>sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/102-0443193-7424902?v=glance&s=books
>
>If your news reader can't handle the long url, you may have to cut and
>paste it into your browser.
>
>
>
>Joe
>
>aka 10x

nn

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

27/10/2004 12:18 PM

A book that partly fills your needs is Tage Frid Teaches Woodworking
books 1$2 bound together about $30.00. Describes how-to for many
joints and describes machine and hand methods.

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:55:44 -0400, "Zed Rafi" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Hello again,
>
>I'm looking for a comprehensive woodworking book.
>I'm looking for something very complete, enjoyable to read and educational,
>that would guide me through the basics (how to properly use chisels for
>example, or how to make a tenon-and-mortise joint) and also through more
>advanced topics and would give plans for basic projects. Preferably, i'd
>like something that covers both manual AND power tools techniques.
>
>Any recommendations?
>
>Thanks
>

b

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

27/10/2004 9:07 PM

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:13:14 -0400, Greg G. wrote:

>Phisherman said:
>
>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:04:38 GMT, Dave in Fairfax <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>
>>>That would be your other book, Leonard Lee's opus on sharpening.
>>>Dave in Fairfax
>>
>>I have to agree, Leonard Lee's book is outstanding. Woodworking
>>without sharp tools is no fun. This book explains the "candle" on the
>>edge of a tool, something important that I was not aware.
>
>Candle? Please explain in 50 words or less... ;-)
>
>
>Greg G.


prolly using a bright point source light to inspect the edge. it's
amazing what you can see that way.

tt

"toller"

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

28/10/2004 4:21 AM


"Curtis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> $17.39 + $1.40 shipping at Overstock.com...
>
Don't know anything about the book, but when I bought from Overstock.com
they shipped the wrong book and then refused to do anything about it.
BEWARE

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

27/10/2004 8:16 PM

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:21:06 -0400, "Zed Rafi" <[email protected]>
calmly ranted:

>This book looks very good.

There is no single book which covers all that you want. Check
Greg Millen's book review page for some of our Wreck favorites.
http://woodworking.homeip.net/wood/reference/books.htm


>Does it have a section explaining how to sharpen handtools (chisels,
>block/smoothing plane blades, etc....) ?

For sharpening, get Leonard Lee's book, "The Complete Guide to
Sharpening", or do a Google search on this newsgroup for "Scary
Sharp".


>"Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
>news:[email protected]...
>> "Tage Frid teaches woodworking" fits the bill. Very comprehensive and
>> extremely well done. A classic, really.


--
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unemployment. Every regulator we fire results in the creation of over
150 new jobs, enough to hire the ex-regulator, the unemployed, and
the able-bodied poor." -Michael Badnarik

VOTE LIBERTARIAN ON NOVEMBER 2, 2004 OR YOU WON'T CHANGE ANYTHING.

GM

"Greg Millen"

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

28/10/2004 9:08 PM

Larry,

your constant mentioning of my page has finally forced an update of the
content. I have quoted Phisherman, so if there is any problem let me know
and I'll remove it immediately.

--

Greg


"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:21:06 -0400, "Zed Rafi" <[email protected]>
> calmly ranted:
>
>>This book looks very good.
>
> There is no single book which covers all that you want. Check
> Greg Millen's book review page for some of our Wreck favorites.
> http://woodworking.homeip.net/wood/reference/books.htm
>
<snip>

GM

"Greg Millen"

in reply to "Zed Rafi" on 27/10/2004 1:55 PM

28/10/2004 9:16 PM

No, wait - let me rephrase that.

"If Phisherman has any problem with me quoting him, let me know and I'll
remove it immediately."

I guess I am having one of *those* days, sigh.

--
Greg


"Greg Millen" <> wrote in message ...
> Larry,
>
> your constant mentioning of my page has finally forced an update of the
> content. I have quoted Phisherman, so if there is any problem let me know
> and I'll remove it immediately.
>
> --
>
> Greg


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