As a follow up to my questions and the many answers as to "Now
which miter gauge"? I bought one. It was a hard decision that did not
come quickly.
After many e-mail exchanges with Woodhaven and Incra I finally bought
the Incra 1000HD, on sale at Rockler for $169.
So far just handling and making the adjustments it seems to be several
steps above my old Kreg. It is indeed easy to switch from the left side
to the right side even with the telescoping fence extension.
So thank you all for the suggestions and recommendations and a special
thanks to Edward Hennessey for the in shop experimenting and data
gathering to answer my questions. I thank you and I am sure Incra
thanks you. ;~)
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 15:03:08 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote:
>
>
>"Leon" wrote
>> Letting things acclimate should
>> solve the situation, but I was in a hurry and then determined to get the
>> pin out and that damaged the gauge.
>-----------------
>There ya go Leon. You have discovered the problem.
>
>Soooooo...., next time, just wait for winter. Then remove the pin. :-)
>
Nah. Just put it in the freezer.
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 08:03:32 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 6/11/2011 10:15 PM, Leon wrote:
>
>> After many e-mail exchanges with Woodhaven and Incra I finally bought
>> the Incra 1000HD, on sale at Rockler for $169.
>
>Damn ... Laguna, Festool, Incra. You're going to be hard to put up with,
>Bubba!
>
>I best up my text message allowance ... :)
I didn't know Leon's last name was JONES. Why are you keeping up with
him?
--
The ultimate result of shielding men from the
effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.
--Herbert Spencer
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 09:30:49 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>Out to spray shellac for the rest of the day ... have five cabinets that
>need at least three coats each.
Don't get a DUI while driving home, eh?
--
The ultimate result of shielding men from the
effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.
--Herbert Spencer
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:18:54 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 6/12/2011 10:15 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 09:30:49 -0500, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Out to spray shellac for the rest of the day ... have five cabinets that
>>> need at least three coats each.
>>
>> Don't get a DUI while driving home, eh?
>
>He will R D be there. Doing his shop.
In that case, he'd look entirely silly getting a DUI in that short a
drive. :^)
--
The ultimate result of shielding men from the
effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.
--Herbert Spencer
On 6/12/2011 9:30 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 6/12/2011 9:07 AM, Leon wrote:
>
>> I have been mysteriously considering dropping the texting from my phone,
>> you and Bryan are the only two people I text or get text's from.
>>
>> IIRC you can text me and it can/will come in as an e-mail if you choose
>> that method of delivery.
>
> Unfortunately, I've benn forced to rely on texting for a myriad of
> reasons. Some clients don't check their email, but will answer texts
> immediately, along with wife and daughter.
Yeah, texting falls somewhere the "answer me at your leisure" e-mail and
"talk to me RIGHT NOW" telephone.
"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As a follow up to my questions and the many answers as to "Now which
> miter gauge"? I bought one. It was a hard decision that did not come
> quickly.
L:
>
> After many e-mail exchanges with Woodhaven and Incra I finally bought the
> Incra 1000HD, on sale at Rockler for $169.
That was my foremost fear: you spending money.
>
> So far just handling and making the adjustments it seems to be several
> steps above my old Kreg. It is indeed easy to switch from the left side
> to the right side even with the telescoping fence extension.
>
> So thank you all for the suggestions and recommendations and a special
> thanks to Edward Hennessey for the in shop experimenting and data
> gathering to answer my questions. I thank you and I am sure Incra thanks
> you. ;~)
As noted, it was my pleasure, increased only by your evident
satisfaction with the equipment.
Let me know how it fares with cutting wide wood. On the test
morning, there wasn't going to be time to sanitize the dust
collector (me) before launch into the world. But later thought
about the issue settled on the notion that the cantileverd fence
could be hitched up to the back of a wide board with an
underhanded palm and upward thumb so it would feed
without a bump at the forward lip of the table. If you get a
chance to evaluate the maneuver before I do or arrive at a
better technique, please lend it to my ear.
And, hey, the choice of name or derived nickname is yours. I
barged into Usenet on a group where certificated monikers
was the norm, so that's the signature in the fingers' muscle
memory.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
On 6/12/2011 4:02 AM, Dave wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:15:18 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> After many e-mail exchanges with Woodhaven and Incra I finally bought
>> the Incra 1000HD, on sale at Rockler for $169.
>
>> So far just handling and making the adjustments it seems to be several
>> steps above my old Kreg. It is indeed easy to switch from the left side
>> to the right side even with the telescoping fence extension.
>
> Yeah, the 1000HD is a fine miter guage. It's very. The 1000HD was a
> little large and heavy for my contractor's saw table top. When pulled
> all the way back to accomodate a variety of board width's the weight
> of the protractor head would tip off the saw. Figured it would get to
> be a pain so I bought the lighter Kreg miter guage coincidentally
> enough. It works fine for my purposes, but if I ever get that cabinet
> saw I want, an Incra miter gauge is out there waiting for me to snap
> it up.
Mine has the forward T-slot fitting that keeps the miter gauge from
falling off. For some reason with the long guide bar on the Kreg I
never got around to putting the keeper on. Not sure why, I did think
about it a time or two. I found that the Kreg would tip once off the
front of the TS surface, I believe they all will to some extent if you
are not taking advantage of the t-slot. The 1000HD will tilt left or
right with out the support of the fence but not fall off.
I did not find the 1000HD large, marginally larger than the Kreg I have
but the 3000 series is another story. I think that perhaps with even
the smallest of stock that the rear of the gauge might be hanging off
the front of the TS as the wood hits the blade. ;~) That might be an
exaggeration but not much. That is why I ultimately chose the 1000HD.
I plan to purchase the 27"-48" telescoping fence also how that I have
found that removing the fence and reinstalling the fence is a quick
smooth task, I thought the Kreg was going to be very hard to beat in
that respect, I was wrong.
I might warn you something to watch out for on the Kreg, I never
encountered the situation/problem during the 6 or years that I use mine,
but now I am in a new shop and the summer sun light is just now starting
to have a quick warming effect on the TS and every thin that sets on top
of it.
If the gauge gets hot from setting in direct sun light the brass pin
might seize. Kreg support did agree that the brass would expand quite a
bit if the temperature changed very much. They were at a loss to
explain the drastic and fast result. Letting things acclimate shoule
solve the situation, but I was in a hurry and then determined to get the
pin out and that damaged the gauge.
On 6/11/2011 10:15 PM, Leon wrote:
> After many e-mail exchanges with Woodhaven and Incra I finally bought
> the Incra 1000HD, on sale at Rockler for $169.
Damn ... Laguna, Festool, Incra. You're going to be hard to put up with,
Bubba!
I best up my text message allowance ...
:)
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Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)
"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 6/13/2011 5:15 PM, Edward Hennessey wrote:
>>
> Snip
>
>
>>
>> Let me know how it fares with cutting wide wood. On the test
>> morning, there wasn't going to be time to sanitize the dust
>> collector (me) before launch into the world. But later thought
>> about the issue settled on the notion that the cantileverd fence
>> could be hitched up to the back of a wide board with an
>> underhanded palm and upward thumb so it would feed
>> without a bump at the forward lip of the table. If you get a
>> chance to evaluate the maneuver before I do or arrive at a
>> better technique, please lend it to my ear.
>
> More than likely I will not be using this miter gauge for wide panels even
> though I did put a lot of focus on the length of the guide bar. I have
> right and left Dubby Jigs/sleds for cutting that kind of stuff and when
> wide enough I simply use the rip fence. i mostly wanted a dead on gauge
> for squaring the ends of boards so that I would not have to pullout the
> sleds. I found that the Kreg saw more action than I imagined and the
> Incra is such a step up it too may see even more action once I add the
> 27-49" telescoping fence.
> Simply put if the fence will not sit on the TS top I will get the sled
> out.
>
>
>> And, hey, the choice of name or derived nickname is yours. I
>> barged into Usenet on a group where certificated monikers
>> was the norm, so that's the signature in the fingers' muscle
>> memory.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Edward Hennessey
>
> You want a nick name??? Let me see here.... hummmmm ummmmmmm
>
> man, ,,,,, How about Ed? ;~)
>
L:
As long as you don't mind Leonidas. Now that's a snapping
nickname. But after the throaty vibration of your consideration,
I woulda saw "Buzz" if we were taking bets.
BTW, the short form of "Eduardo" in Spanish is "Lalo".
Don't ask me why because none of the natives seem
to find the question worth a hill of frijoles.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
On 6/12/2011 8:03 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 6/11/2011 10:15 PM, Leon wrote:
>
>> After many e-mail exchanges with Woodhaven and Incra I finally bought
>> the Incra 1000HD, on sale at Rockler for $169.
>
> Damn ... Laguna, Festool, Incra. You're going to be hard to put up with,
> Bubba!
>
> I best up my text message allowance ...
>
> :)
>
>
Hey you have the Woodhaven miter gauge, "Multirouter", FESTOOL, and
enough drawers to make you go cross eyed if you tried to count them all.
I'm jealous.
I take your recomendations seriousely and it was going to be either the
Woodhaven or the Incra. I had better gut feelings about the Woodhaven
because it is so much like the Kreg that I had chose but the $250 price
tag sorta made me consider other brands. I actually did not like the
Incras for some unsupported reason, just a bad gut feeling I guess. I
will say however the 1000HD series is sort'a new according to Incra and
it has a few enhancements over several of the other miter gauges.
I have been mysteriously considering dropping the texting from my phone,
you and Bryan are the only two people I text or get text's from.
IIRC you can text me and it can/will come in as an e-mail if you choose
that method of delivery.
On 6/12/2011 10:15 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 09:30:49 -0500, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Out to spray shellac for the rest of the day ... have five cabinets that
>> need at least three coats each.
>
> Don't get a DUI while driving home, eh?
Not to worry. Just fell back in the house ... first coat on the big
piece of reclaimed cabinet furniture. I could drink a Margarita right
now and not worry about it as long as I can make it back up the steps.
--
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KarlC@ (the obvious)
On 6/12/2011 10:15 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 09:30:49 -0500, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Out to spray shellac for the rest of the day ... have five cabinets that
>> need at least three coats each.
>
> Don't get a DUI while driving home, eh?
>
He will R D be there. Doing his shop.
On 6/12/2011 3:50 PM, Jim Weisgram wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 15:03:08 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
> <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Leon" wrote
>>> Letting things acclimate should
>>> solve the situation, but I was in a hurry and then determined to get the
>>> pin out and that damaged the gauge.
>> -----------------
>> There ya go Leon. You have discovered the problem.
>>
>> Soooooo...., next time, just wait for winter. Then remove the pin. :-)
>>
> Nah. Just put it in the freezer.
And there was on one, 6' away inside my shop. ;~(
On 6/12/2011 2:03 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>
> "Leon" wrote
>> Letting things acclimate should solve the situation, but I was in a
>> hurry and then determined to get the pin out and that damaged the gauge.
> -----------------
> There ya go Leon. You have discovered the problem.
> Soooooo...., next time, just wait for winter. Then remove the pin. :-)
>
>
>
>
LOL Yeah! I am normally a very patient person but I was running out
of time on my last job and it became a war, me against the pin. I WON
the battle, lost the war $169 later. ;~)
On 6/12/2011 11:47 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 6/12/11 11:23 AM, Leon wrote:
>> On 6/12/2011 9:30 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 6/12/2011 9:07 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have been mysteriously considering dropping the texting from my
>>>> phone,
>>>> you and Bryan are the only two people I text or get text's from.
>>>>
>>>> IIRC you can text me and it can/will come in as an e-mail if you choose
>>>> that method of delivery.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I've benn forced to rely on texting for a myriad of
>>> reasons. Some clients don't check their email, but will answer texts
>>> immediately, along with wife and daughter.
>>
>> Yeah, texting falls somewhere the "answer me at your leisure" e-mail and
>> "talk to me RIGHT NOW" telephone.
>>
>
> I ignore most text messages. When people get irritated and ask why I
> didn't answer their text, I say, "If it was important, you would've
> called." They usually just call the next time they need an answer right
> away.
Excep those using an iPhone on AT&T ... "My phone didn't ring!".
I get that half a dozen times a day. Apparently one of the reasons why
many on the iPhone in difficult areas text when it is important.
(I didn't make that up, I don't have an iPhone, and it's what most of
the iPhone user's who I need to contact a few times a day keep telling
me ... except for Leon, who doesn't seem to have that problem)
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KarlC@ (the obvious)
On 6/13/2011 5:15 PM, Edward Hennessey wrote:
>
Snip
>
> Let me know how it fares with cutting wide wood. On the test
> morning, there wasn't going to be time to sanitize the dust
> collector (me) before launch into the world. But later thought
> about the issue settled on the notion that the cantileverd fence
> could be hitched up to the back of a wide board with an
> underhanded palm and upward thumb so it would feed
> without a bump at the forward lip of the table. If you get a
> chance to evaluate the maneuver before I do or arrive at a
> better technique, please lend it to my ear.
More than likely I will not be using this miter gauge for wide panels
even though I did put a lot of focus on the length of the guide bar. I
have right and left Dubby Jigs/sleds for cutting that kind of stuff and
when wide enough I simply use the rip fence. i mostly wanted a dead on
gauge for squaring the ends of boards so that I would not have to
pullout the sleds. I found that the Kreg saw more action than I
imagined and the Incra is such a step up it too may see even more action
once I add the 27-49" telescoping fence.
Simply put if the fence will not sit on the TS top I will get the sled out.
> And, hey, the choice of name or derived nickname is yours. I
> barged into Usenet on a group where certificated monikers
> was the norm, so that's the signature in the fingers' muscle
> memory.
>
> Regards,
>
> Edward Hennessey
You want a nick name??? Let me see here.... hummmmm ummmmmmm
man, ,,,,, How about Ed? ;~)
On 6/12/2011 9:07 AM, Leon wrote:
> I have been mysteriously considering dropping the texting from my phone,
> you and Bryan are the only two people I text or get text's from.
>
> IIRC you can text me and it can/will come in as an e-mail if you choose
> that method of delivery.
Unfortunately, I've benn forced to rely on texting for a myriad of
reasons. Some clients don't check their email, but will answer texts
immediately, along with wife and daughter.
I gotten used to using 'Note Everything' to text Linda the grocery list,
pet store list, etc, and if she's in a lesson she will text before she
will answer a phone call.
Out to spray shellac for the rest of the day ... have five cabinets that
need at least three coats each.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On 6/12/11 11:23 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 6/12/2011 9:30 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 6/12/2011 9:07 AM, Leon wrote:
>>
>>> I have been mysteriously considering dropping the texting from my phone,
>>> you and Bryan are the only two people I text or get text's from.
>>>
>>> IIRC you can text me and it can/will come in as an e-mail if you choose
>>> that method of delivery.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I've benn forced to rely on texting for a myriad of
>> reasons. Some clients don't check their email, but will answer texts
>> immediately, along with wife and daughter.
>
> Yeah, texting falls somewhere the "answer me at your leisure" e-mail and
> "talk to me RIGHT NOW" telephone.
>
I ignore most text messages. When people get irritated and ask why I
didn't answer their text, I say, "If it was important, you would've
called." They usually just call the next time they need an answer right
away.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:15:18 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>After many e-mail exchanges with Woodhaven and Incra I finally bought
>the Incra 1000HD, on sale at Rockler for $169.
>So far just handling and making the adjustments it seems to be several
>steps above my old Kreg. It is indeed easy to switch from the left side
>to the right side even with the telescoping fence extension.
Yeah, the 1000HD is a fine miter guage. It's very. The 1000HD was a
little large and heavy for my contractor's saw table top. When pulled
all the way back to accomodate a variety of board width's the weight
of the protractor head would tip off the saw. Figured it would get to
be a pain so I bought the lighter Kreg miter guage coincidentally
enough. It works fine for my purposes, but if I ever get that cabinet
saw I want, an Incra miter gauge is out there waiting for me to snap
it up.
On 6/13/2011 8:03 PM, Edward Hennessey wrote:
>
> "Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 6/13/2011 5:15 PM, Edward Hennessey wrote:
>>>
>> Snip
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Let me know how it fares with cutting wide wood. On the test
>>> morning, there wasn't going to be time to sanitize the dust
>>> collector (me) before launch into the world. But later thought
>>> about the issue settled on the notion that the cantileverd fence
>>> could be hitched up to the back of a wide board with an
>>> underhanded palm and upward thumb so it would feed
>>> without a bump at the forward lip of the table. If you get a
>>> chance to evaluate the maneuver before I do or arrive at a
>>> better technique, please lend it to my ear.
>>
>> More than likely I will not be using this miter gauge for wide panels
>> even though I did put a lot of focus on the length of the guide bar. I
>> have right and left Dubby Jigs/sleds for cutting that kind of stuff
>> and when wide enough I simply use the rip fence. i mostly wanted a
>> dead on gauge for squaring the ends of boards so that I would not have
>> to pullout the sleds. I found that the Kreg saw more action than I
>> imagined and the Incra is such a step up it too may see even more
>> action once I add the 27-49" telescoping fence.
>> Simply put if the fence will not sit on the TS top I will get the sled
>> out.
>>
>>
>>> And, hey, the choice of name or derived nickname is yours. I
>>> barged into Usenet on a group where certificated monikers
>>> was the norm, so that's the signature in the fingers' muscle
>>> memory.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Edward Hennessey
>>
>> You want a nick name??? Let me see here.... hummmmm ummmmmmm
>>
>> man, ,,,,, How about Ed? ;~)
>>
>
> L:
>
> As long as you don't mind Leonidas. Now that's a snapping
> nickname. But after the throaty vibration of your consideration,
> I woulda saw "Buzz" if we were taking bets.
Well at first FRANK came to mind... ;~)