My DW705 12" Compound Miter saw died. The switch burned out. I
called the DW service center and they told me the switch had been
discontinued. My only option was trash the saw or bring it to them
(100 miles away) and get a credit for it on another saw.
Then I tried the online parts service. The part is no longer available.
I need another similar saw for occasional use. Serious suggestions?
--
Gerald Ross
If love is blind, why is lingerie so
popular?
On Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:54:35 AM UTC-7, Lee Michaels wrote:
> "Doug Winterburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message=20
> news:[email protected]...
> > On 03/15/2012 06:28 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:
> >> My DW705 12" Compound Miter saw died. The switch burned out. I called
> >> the DW service center and they told me the switch had been discontinue=
d.
> >> My only option was trash the saw or bring it to them (100 miles away)
> >> and get a credit for it on another saw.
> >>
> >> Then I tried the online parts service. The part is no longer available=
.
> >>
> >> I need another similar saw for occasional use. Serious suggestions?
> >
> > I had a similar problem with a Shop-Vac. The power switch was stuck on=
=20
> > "on" and the vac wouldn't turn off unless it was unplugged. Shop-Vac=
=20
> > doesn't provide the switch and wants to sell you a new power head for $=
85.
> >
> > I found a compatible mini rocker switch at:
> >
> > http://tubesandmore.com/
> >
> > for less than $5 including tax. Works great.
> >
> > Not sure what type of switch you have in the CMS, but you might find=20
> > something that works. Is it's a rocker switch, most are the same physi=
cal=20
> > size depending on mini or regular.
> >
> >
> What is this fascination with providing crappy switches for power tools. =
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> have had a number of switch failures. It wasn't always practical to repl=
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> them. But I have found replacement switches and replaced the faulty one.=
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> And on a couple occasions, I even wired up a box with a much more=20
> substantial switch. Because the original was so poor or unstable, any=20
> replacement would have led to another failure.
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> Reminds me of the time I had to get rid of several office chairs. Closel=
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> observing each chair, I found that there was an incredible variation in=
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> quality. These things are obviously assembled from different parts of ve=
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> different quality. some of those components are good for a hundred years=
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> Others will fail within a year. Obviously the crappy components are what=
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> led to the chair getting discarded. And also, quite obviously, no parts =
are=20
> available to repair the chair.
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> Do they go out of their way to put crappy parts in a product? It seems t=
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> me, being logical and rational, if you are going to make a product that i=
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> mostly quality parts, why put crap in there too? Obviously I don't have =
a=20
> MBA.
Yeah, I had a 3 1/4hp freud router with the strangest switch it kind of roc=
ked and slid. I never could get used to it. Kind of dangerous when you need=
ed a quick shut off. Then the switch finally completly failed... Oh did I m=
ention I knocked the router off the table by mistake by stepping on the cor=
d. It fell right on the fragile little bit used for doing inlay work and br=
oke the bit so my work for the day\week was done until I could order a new =
bit. The switch was still OK at that point. However, after banging the rout=
er into the concrete floor a few times as hard as I could by swinging it fr=
om the cord, that darn switch just gave way, along with a few other parts a=
nd pieces. I love my new Dewalt. Trying to stay a little calmer now.
On 3/15/2012 9:28 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:
> My DW705 12" Compound Miter saw died. The switch burned out. I called the
> DW service center and they told me the switch had been discontinued. My
> only option was trash the saw or bring it to them (100 miles away) and get
> a credit for it on another saw.
>
> Then I tried the online parts service. The part is no longer available.
>
> I need another similar saw for occasional use. Serious suggestions?
DeWalt has service centers scattered all over the country and it wouldn't
surprise me if at least some of them still had the exact switch you need on
the shelf. Finding the right service center will probably be a bitch but it
can probably be done. I hope so since I have the same saw in the shop and
would hate to see it go obsolete over something so trivial.
In a similar vein, I am enough of an experimenter that I would likely try
buying a motor contactor/relay of sufficient capacity and with the needed
contact arrangement and replace the switch function with that and then
activate the contactor with a different type of switch at the trigger
location. That would probably be a bitch to do also but given a dead saw...
Gerald Ross wrote:
> My DW705 12" Compound Miter saw died. The switch burned out. I
> called the DW service center and they told me the switch had been
> discontinued. My only option was trash the saw or bring it to them
> (100 miles away) and get a credit for it on another saw.
>
> Then I tried the online parts service. The part is no longer
> available.
> I need another similar saw for occasional use. Serious suggestions?
Wire up a foot switch?
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:43:15 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 3/15/2012 9:35 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> That's why you think normally. You don't have an MBA. Somehow the severe
>> decline in our status came as a result of MBA's. Everything was numbers
>> to them, but they missed a couple of pieces of the equation.
>
>> What do you say to that MBA??? We can't buy the products if you put us
>> out of work.
>>
>> I have no respect for MBA's or Politicians. Both SUCK!!!
>
>I have been vocally decrying the MBA fallacy for over thirty years ...
>nice to see someone else snapping to conclusion.
I've felt the same for a long time, since high school ca1971.
I used to have a shirt that screamed that same viewpoint, Swingy.
NO MBA
NO BMW
NO CONDO
--
Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing.
This is the ultimate. -- Chuang-tzu
chances are any switch will work. See if you can find other similar
models from other vendors. Have you checked ereplacementparts.com,
sear.com or other site for spare parts?
option two, by pass the switch. ie: every time you plug it in it is on.
option three, wire a on / off switch to the power line some where and
by pass the bad switch. Maybe attach the new external switch near the
rear or top of the saw.
Mike in Ohio
On 3/15/2012 9:28 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:
> My DW705 12" Compound Miter saw died. The switch burned out. I called
> the DW service center and they told me the switch had been discontinued.
> My only option was trash the saw or bring it to them (100 miles away)
> and get a credit for it on another saw.
>
> Then I tried the online parts service. The part is no longer available.
>
> I need another similar saw for occasional use. Serious suggestions?
On 03/15/2012 06:28 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:
> My DW705 12" Compound Miter saw died. The switch burned out. I called
> the DW service center and they told me the switch had been discontinued.
> My only option was trash the saw or bring it to them (100 miles away)
> and get a credit for it on another saw.
>
> Then I tried the online parts service. The part is no longer available.
>
> I need another similar saw for occasional use. Serious suggestions?
I had a similar problem with a Shop-Vac. The power switch was stuck on
"on" and the vac wouldn't turn off unless it was unplugged. Shop-Vac
doesn't provide the switch and wants to sell you a new power head for $85.
I found a compatible mini rocker switch at:
http://tubesandmore.com/
for less than $5 including tax. Works great.
Not sure what type of switch you have in the CMS, but you might find
something that works. Is it's a rocker switch, most are the same
physical size depending on mini or regular.
--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill
"Doug Winterburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 03/15/2012 06:28 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:
>> My DW705 12" Compound Miter saw died. The switch burned out. I called
>> the DW service center and they told me the switch had been discontinued.
>> My only option was trash the saw or bring it to them (100 miles away)
>> and get a credit for it on another saw.
>>
>> Then I tried the online parts service. The part is no longer available.
>>
>> I need another similar saw for occasional use. Serious suggestions?
>
> I had a similar problem with a Shop-Vac. The power switch was stuck on
> "on" and the vac wouldn't turn off unless it was unplugged. Shop-Vac
> doesn't provide the switch and wants to sell you a new power head for $85.
>
> I found a compatible mini rocker switch at:
>
> http://tubesandmore.com/
>
> for less than $5 including tax. Works great.
>
> Not sure what type of switch you have in the CMS, but you might find
> something that works. Is it's a rocker switch, most are the same physical
> size depending on mini or regular.
>
>
What is this fascination with providing crappy switches for power tools. I
have had a number of switch failures. It wasn't always practical to replace
them. But I have found replacement switches and replaced the faulty one.
And on a couple occasions, I even wired up a box with a much more
substantial switch. Because the original was so poor or unstable, any
replacement would have led to another failure.
Reminds me of the time I had to get rid of several office chairs. Closely
observing each chair, I found that there was an incredible variation in
quality. These things are obviously assembled from different parts of very
different quality. some of those components are good for a hundred years.
Others will fail within a year. Obviously the crappy components are what
led to the chair getting discarded. And also, quite obviously, no parts are
available to repair the chair.
Do they go out of their way to put crappy parts in a product? It seems to
me, being logical and rational, if you are going to make a product that is
mostly quality parts, why put crap in there too? Obviously I don't have a
MBA.
Gerald Ross <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> The switch Closes one pair of contacts when the handle is squeezed,
> When released These contacts open and another pair are closed. Seems
> that this controls the electric brake on this model as well as the
> motor. Another switch would require turning something loose in order
> to stop the motor. Probably not safe in some circumstances.
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions.
>
It's not uncommon to find momentary switches with NC (normally closed)
and NO (Normally Open) contacts. Sounds like that's the kind of switch
that's used.
Probably the hardest part of replacing the switch is going to be finding
one that fits and has the correct ratings.
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
Gerald Ross wrote:
> My DW705 12" Compound Miter saw died. The switch burned out. I
> called
> the DW service center and they told me the switch had been
> discontinued.
> My only option was trash the saw or bring it to them (100 miles
> away)
> and get a credit for it on another saw.
>
> Then I tried the online parts service. The part is no longer
> available.
>
> I need another similar saw for occasional use. Serious suggestions?
--------------------
How much is the credit being offered?
Lew
Swingman wrote:
> On 3/15/2012 7:28 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:
>> My DW705 12" Compound Miter saw died. The switch burned out. I called
>> the DW service center and they told me the switch had been discontinued.
>> My only option was trash the saw or bring it to them (100 miles away)
>> and get a credit for it on another saw.
>>
>> Then I tried the online parts service. The part is no longer available.
>>
>> I need another similar saw for occasional use. Serious suggestions?
>
> Have you tried eBay? Don't know the part number but here are a few switches:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_pppn=v3&_kw=dewalt&_kw=saw&_kw=switch
>
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=dewalt+miter+saw+switch&_frs=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m359
>
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_pppn=v3&_kw=miter&_kw=saw&_kw=switch
>
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_pppn=v3&_kw=dewalt&_kw=miter&_kw=switch
>
Thanks, I never thought of eBay.
--
Gerald Ross
Every vision has an equal and opposite
revision.
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Gerald Ross wrote:
>
>> My DW705 12" Compound Miter saw died. The switch burned out. I
>> called
>> the DW service center and they told me the switch had been
>> discontinued.
>> My only option was trash the saw or bring it to them (100 miles
>> away)
>> and get a credit for it on another saw.
>>
>> Then I tried the online parts service. The part is no longer
>> available.
>>
>> I need another similar saw for occasional use. Serious suggestions?
> --------------------
> How much is the credit being offered?
>
> Lew
>
>
>
I would have to take it there to the service center north of Atlanta
to find out. I live in rural south Georgia. Right now I don't trust
myself to go there, even unarmed.
--
Gerald Ross
Every vision has an equal and opposite
revision.
Kenefick wrote:
> chances are any switch will work. See if you can find other similar
> models from other vendors. Have you checked ereplacementparts.com,
> sear.com or other site for spare parts?
>
> option two, by pass the switch. ie: every time you plug it in it is on.
>
> option three, wire a on / off switch to the power line some where and
> by pass the bad switch. Maybe attach the new external switch near the
> rear or top of the saw.
>
> Mike in Ohio
>
> On 3/15/2012 9:28 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:
>> My DW705 12" Compound Miter saw died. The switch burned out. I called
>> the DW service center and they told me the switch had been discontinued.
>> My only option was trash the saw or bring it to them (100 miles away)
>> and get a credit for it on another saw.
>>
>> Then I tried the online parts service. The part is no longer available.
>>
>> I need another similar saw for occasional use. Serious suggestions?
The switch Closes one pair of contacts when the handle is squeezed,
When released These contacts open and another pair are closed. Seems
that this controls the electric brake on this model as well as the
motor. Another switch would require turning something loose in order
to stop the motor. Probably not safe in some circumstances.
Thanks for all the suggestions.
--
Gerald Ross
If love is blind, why is lingerie so
popular?
There should be a similar switch somewhere. If not check digikey for a
switch that might work. You can always mount a momentary button switch
where that switch should exist, and make a wooden trigger. Drill the
trigger out with a hole to accept the end of the momentary switch and
glue them together. Done.
On 3/15/2012 9:28 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:
> My DW705 12" Compound Miter saw died. The switch burned out. I called
> the DW service center and they told me the switch had been discontinued.
> My only option was trash the saw or bring it to them (100 miles away)
> and get a credit for it on another saw.
>
> Then I tried the online parts service. The part is no longer available.
>
> I need another similar saw for occasional use. Serious suggestions?
On 3/15/2012 10:30 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:
> Kenefick wrote:
>> chances are any switch will work. See if you can find other similar
>> models from other vendors. Have you checked ereplacementparts.com,
>> sear.com or other site for spare parts?
>>
>> option two, by pass the switch. ie: every time you plug it in it is on.
>>
>> option three, wire a on / off switch to the power line some where and
>> by pass the bad switch. Maybe attach the new external switch near the
>> rear or top of the saw.
>>
>> Mike in Ohio
>>
>> On 3/15/2012 9:28 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:
>>> My DW705 12" Compound Miter saw died. The switch burned out. I called
>>> the DW service center and they told me the switch had been discontinued.
>>> My only option was trash the saw or bring it to them (100 miles away)
>>> and get a credit for it on another saw.
>>>
>>> Then I tried the online parts service. The part is no longer available.
>>>
>>> I need another similar saw for occasional use. Serious suggestions?
>
> The switch Closes one pair of contacts when the handle is squeezed, When
> released These contacts open and another pair are closed. Seems that
> this controls the electric brake on this model as well as the motor.
> Another switch would require turning something loose in order to stop
> the motor. Probably not safe in some circumstances.
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions.
>
Keep in mind that if you us an external alternate switch, your
electronic brake, if you have one, probably will no longer work.
On 3/15/2012 7:28 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:
> My DW705 12" Compound Miter saw died. The switch burned out. I called
> the DW service center and they told me the switch had been discontinued.
> My only option was trash the saw or bring it to them (100 miles away)
> and get a credit for it on another saw.
>
> Then I tried the online parts service. The part is no longer available.
>
> I need another similar saw for occasional use. Serious suggestions?
Have you tried eBay? Don't know the part number but here are a few switches:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_pppn=v3&_kw=dewalt&_kw=saw&_kw=switch
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=dewalt+miter+saw+switch&_frs=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m359
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_pppn=v3&_kw=miter&_kw=saw&_kw=switch
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_pppn=v3&_kw=dewalt&_kw=miter&_kw=switch
--
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Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
http://gplus.to/eWoodShop
Pat Barber wrote:
> On 3/15/2012 6:28 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:
>> My DW705 12" Compound Miter saw died. The switch burned out. I called
>> the DW service center and they told me the switch had been discontinued.
>> My only option was trash the saw or bring it to them (100 miles away)
>> and get a credit for it on another saw.
>>
>> Then I tried the online parts service. The part is no longer available.
>>
>> I need another similar saw for occasional use. Serious suggestions?
>
> These folks seem to have the switch...
>
> http://www.ereplacementparts.com/dewalt-dw705-type-inch-miter-saw-parts-c-1009_1163_2601.html
Sorry I left out that mine was type3. Your site says "Obsolete. Not
Available"
--
Gerald Ross
If love is blind, why is lingerie so
popular?
On 3/15/2012 9:35 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
> That's why you think normally. You don't have an MBA. Somehow the severe
> decline in our status came as a result of MBA's. Everything was numbers
> to them, but they missed a couple of pieces of the equation.
> What do you say to that MBA??? We can't buy the products if you put us
> out of work.
>
> I have no respect for MBA's or Politicians. Both SUCK!!!
I have been vocally decrying the MBA fallacy for over thirty years ...
nice to see someone else snapping to conclusion.
http://tinyurl.com/89ugwsn
http://preview.tinyurl.com/89ugwsn
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Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
http://gplus.to/eWoodShop
On 3/15/2012 6:28 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:
> My DW705 12" Compound Miter saw died. The switch burned out. I called
> the DW service center and they told me the switch had been discontinued.
> My only option was trash the saw or bring it to them (100 miles away)
> and get a credit for it on another saw.
>
> Then I tried the online parts service. The part is no longer available.
>
> I need another similar saw for occasional use. Serious suggestions?
These folks seem to have the switch...
http://www.ereplacementparts.com/dewalt-dw705-type-inch-miter-saw-parts-c-1009_1163_2601.html
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:30:36 -0400, Gerald Ross wrote:
> The switch Closes one pair of contacts when the handle is squeezed, When
> released These contacts open and another pair are closed. Seems that
> this controls the electric brake on this model as well as the motor.
> Another switch would require turning something loose in order to stop
> the motor. Probably not safe in some circumstances.
Something like this, but with more amp capacity, might work:
<http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/PB-176/DPDT-MOMENTARY-
PUSHBUTTON-SWITCH/1.html>
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
That's why you think normally. You don't have an MBA. Somehow the severe
decline in our status came as a result of MBA's. Everything was numbers
to them, but they missed a couple of pieces of the equation.
Perception
Long term impact
What those economical decisions cost long term.
I have been outsourced over and over because of those decisions (IT).
One of my former Indian co-workers thinks Americans are stupid. He says
in his country they would not give Americans jobs, they give them to
their own people first. In America you give jobs to us Indians, and not
to yourselves he says.
I knew that, but the MBA's see it as a way of lowering the cost.
I am being told by unemployment that I should become an electrician,
carpenter or plumber. Hmmmm. Lets see, start out making nothing and
gently graduate to a living after going through the apprentice programs.
Why not just stop giving jobs to H1Bs and give jobs to us Americans?
What do you say to that MBA??? We can't buy the products if you put us
out of work.
I have no respect for MBA's or Politicians. Both SUCK!!!
On 3/15/2012 10:54 AM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>
> "Doug Winterburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 03/15/2012 06:28 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:
>>> My DW705 12" Compound Miter saw died. The switch burned out. I called
>>> the DW service center and they told me the switch had been discontinued.
>>> My only option was trash the saw or bring it to them (100 miles away)
>>> and get a credit for it on another saw.
>>>
>>> Then I tried the online parts service. The part is no longer available.
>>>
>>> I need another similar saw for occasional use. Serious suggestions?
>>
>> I had a similar problem with a Shop-Vac. The power switch was stuck on
>> "on" and the vac wouldn't turn off unless it was unplugged. Shop-Vac
>> doesn't provide the switch and wants to sell you a new power head for
>> $85.
>>
>> I found a compatible mini rocker switch at:
>>
>> http://tubesandmore.com/
>>
>> for less than $5 including tax. Works great.
>>
>> Not sure what type of switch you have in the CMS, but you might find
>> something that works. Is it's a rocker switch, most are the same
>> physical size depending on mini or regular.
>>
>>
> What is this fascination with providing crappy switches for power tools.
> I have had a number of switch failures. It wasn't always practical to
> replace them. But I have found replacement switches and replaced the
> faulty one. And on a couple occasions, I even wired up a box with a much
> more substantial switch. Because the original was so poor or unstable,
> any replacement would have led to another failure.
>
> Reminds me of the time I had to get rid of several office chairs.
> Closely observing each chair, I found that there was an incredible
> variation in quality. These things are obviously assembled from
> different parts of very different quality. some of those components are
> good for a hundred years. Others will fail within a year. Obviously the
> crappy components are what led to the chair getting discarded. And also,
> quite obviously, no parts are available to repair the chair.
>
> Do they go out of their way to put crappy parts in a product? It seems
> to me, being logical and rational, if you are going to make a product
> that is mostly quality parts, why put crap in there too? Obviously I
> don't have a MBA.
>
>
>