Hu

HerHusband

07/10/2014 3:31 AM

Which blade to resaw green wood?

I have a Grizzly 14" G0555 bandsaw with a riser kit. I primarily just use
it for resawing.

I have been using the 105" Woodslicer blade which performs OK.

Unfortunately, I tried resawing some green logs today and the blade had
lots of problems with binding and warping. I assume the blade is toast now.

After the fact, of course, I read that Woodslicer is specifically NOT
recommended for sawing green lumber. Ooops. Live and learn.

I've also read that I shouldn't use a blade thicker than .025" on a 14"
bandsaw. The blades I've seen for green lumber are all thicker than that.

Are there any bandsaw blades you would recommend for resawing green lumber?

Thanks,

Anthony


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Sonny

in reply to HerHusband on 07/10/2014 3:31 AM

06/10/2014 8:57 PM

On Monday, October 6, 2014 10:31:41 PM UTC-5, HerHusband wrote:
> I have a Grizzly 14" G0555 bandsaw with a riser kit. I primarily just use
> it for resawing.

> I have been using the 105" Woodslicer blade which performs OK.

> Unfortunately, I tried resawing some green logs today and the blade had
> lots of problems with binding and warping. I assume the blade is toast now.

> After the fact, of course, I read that Woodslicer is specifically NOT
> recommended for sawing green lumber. Ooops. Live and learn.

> I've also read that I shouldn't use a blade thicker than .025" on a 14"
> bandsaw. The blades I've seen for green lumber are all thicker than that.

> Are there any bandsaw blades you would recommend for resawing green lumber?

> Thanks,
> Anthony

I don't suppose running water on your cutting, as a bandsaw mill does with green or dry logs, is an option.

I don't have a "blade" answer, either.

Sonny

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to HerHusband on 07/10/2014 3:31 AM

07/10/2014 10:46 AM

HerHusband <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I have a Grizzly 14" G0555 bandsaw with a riser kit. I primarily just
> use it for resawing.
>
> I have been using the 105" Woodslicer blade which performs OK.
>
> Unfortunately, I tried resawing some green logs today and the blade
> had lots of problems with binding and warping. I assume the blade is
> toast now.
>
> After the fact, of course, I read that Woodslicer is specifically NOT
> recommended for sawing green lumber. Ooops. Live and learn.
>
> I've also read that I shouldn't use a blade thicker than .025" on a
> 14" bandsaw. The blades I've seen for green lumber are all thicker
> than that.
>
> Are there any bandsaw blades you would recommend for resawing green
> lumber?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Anthony

Next time you order from Highland, you might want to give one of their
"Woodturner's Blades" a try. I've used it several times to cut green and
greenish logs, and it seems to work well.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to HerHusband on 07/10/2014 3:31 AM

07/10/2014 4:47 PM

HerHusband <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

Puckdropper's millions of hired monkeys eventually banged out (it's not
Hamlet, but at least it's on topic):
>
>> Next time you order from Highland, you might want to give one of
>> their "Woodturner's Blades" a try. I've used it several times to cut
>> green and greenish logs, and it seems to work well.
>
> I found that blade yesterday, but the .032" thickness seems thicker
> than the recommended .025" maximum for a 14" bandsaw. Have you had any
> issues? From what I gather, the thicker blades fatique faster and
> could potentially break?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Anthony
>

I haven't really done a whole lot. Probably about 10 firewood sized
logs. So far, with my 14" 1 hp Jet I haven't had any problems. I do
sometimes get uneven cuts, but that could very well be my fault.

I wouldn't get too worried about the .025" number. The .032" blade is
only 7 thou wider, which isn't a whole lot in this case. It's more
important to listen to the saw and adjust your feed based on what the saw
is telling you.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

SW

Spalted Walt

in reply to HerHusband on 07/10/2014 3:31 AM

07/10/2014 8:16 PM

On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 03:31:41 +0000 (UTC), HerHusband <[email protected]> wrote:

>I have a Grizzly 14" G0555 bandsaw with a riser kit. I primarily just use
>it for resawing.
>
>I have been using the 105" Woodslicer blade which performs OK.
>
>Unfortunately, I tried resawing some green logs today and the blade had
>lots of problems with binding and warping. I assume the blade is toast now.
>
>After the fact, of course, I read that Woodslicer is specifically NOT
>recommended for sawing green lumber. Ooops. Live and learn.
>
>I've also read that I shouldn't use a blade thicker than .025" on a 14"
>bandsaw. The blades I've seen for green lumber are all thicker than that.
>
>Are there any bandsaw blades you would recommend for resawing green lumber?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Anthony

Check out this supplier in North Carolina.

http://www.woodcraftbands.com

Pricing: http://www.woodcraftbands.com/Pricing%20page.htm

Their web site is kinda cheesy, you have to call them to place your
order, but they have (or will make) your size and their prices are
unbeatable.

After ruining a new 105" timberwolf AND a woodslicer resawing green oak
(red and white) a couple of years ago, I called them and talked at
length with the owner, a very friendly and knowledgeable fella. I
oreder several blades from him and have been very satisfied.

I don't think I've ever seen so many positive reviews about any other
vendor on any of the larger woodworking forums I read. (sawmillcreek,
lumberjocks, ncwoodworker):

http://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=woodcraftbands+site%3Asawmillcreek.org

http://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=woodcraftbands+site%3Alumberjocks.com

http://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=woodcraftbands+site%3Ancwoodworker.net

Hu

HerHusband

in reply to HerHusband on 07/10/2014 3:31 AM

07/10/2014 2:17 PM

>> I have a Grizzly 14" G0555 bandsaw with a riser kit. I primarily
>> just use it for resawing.
>> I have been using the 105" Woodslicer blade which performs OK.
>> Unfortunately, I tried resawing some green logs today and the blade
>> had lots of problems with binding and warping. I assume the blade is
>> toast now.
>> After the fact, of course, I read that Woodslicer is specifically NOT
>> recommended for sawing green lumber. Ooops. Live and learn.
>> I've also read that I shouldn't use a blade thicker than .025" on a
>> 14" bandsaw. The blades I've seen for green lumber are all thicker
>> than that.
>> Are there any bandsaw blades you would recommend for resawing green
>> lumber?

> Next time you order from Highland, you might want to give one of their
> "Woodturner's Blades" a try. I've used it several times to cut green
> and greenish logs, and it seems to work well.

I found that blade yesterday, but the .032" thickness seems thicker than
the recommended .025" maximum for a 14" bandsaw. Have you had any issues?
From what I gather, the thicker blades fatique faster and could potentially
break?

Thanks,

Anthony

Hu

HerHusband

in reply to HerHusband on 07/10/2014 3:31 AM

15/10/2014 3:07 PM

>> I have a Grizzly 14" G0555 bandsaw with a riser kit. I primarily
>> just use it for resawing.
>> I have been using the 105" Woodslicer blade which performs OK.
>> Unfortunately, I tried resawing some green logs today and the blade
>> had lots of problems with binding and warping. I assume the blade is
>> toast now.
>> After the fact, of course, I read that Woodslicer is specifically NOT
>> recommended for sawing green lumber. Ooops. Live and learn.
>> I've also read that I shouldn't use a blade thicker than .025" on a
>> 14" bandsaw. The blades I've seen for green lumber are all thicker
>> than that.
>> Are there any bandsaw blades you would recommend for resawing green
>> lumber?

> Fewer teeth, less than one per inch. And the guides can be a problem.
> roller guides tend to hammer the debris onto the blade, ceramic guides
> tend to keep the blades clean.

First, it turns out I had a Timberwolf blade installed on the saw, not
that it made a difference.

I ended up buying a "woodturners" blade from highland woodworking:

http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/woodturners-bandsawblade.aspx

It performed MUCH better in green wood. I was able to saw several two
foot long logs into 1" thick boards easily.

The only real issue I had was buildup on the bandsaw tires. I would have
to stop periodically and use a putty knife to scrape the sawdust from the
tires. It was really stuck on there.

Also, I had to readjust for drift after cutting several boards.

I now have a good stack of boards from a Holly tree and a few boards from
a plum tree. The plum wood is beautiful, but the tree was mostly rotten
and bug infested (worms and ants) so there wasn't much I could salvage
from it. I cut it mostly as an experiment in making lumber, but I have no
idea what I'm going to use it for. It'll take at least a year to dry, so
I guess I have time to figure something out. :)

Anthony Watson
www.mountainsoftware.com
www.watsondiy.com

GR

"G. Ross"

in reply to HerHusband on 07/10/2014 3:31 AM

15/10/2014 11:36 AM

HerHusband wrote:
>>> I have a Grizzly 14" G0555 bandsaw with a riser kit. I primarily
>>> just use it for resawing.
>>> I have been using the 105" Woodslicer blade which performs OK.
>>> Unfortunately, I tried resawing some green logs today and the blade
>>> had lots of problems with binding and warping. I assume the blade is
>>> toast now.
>>> After the fact, of course, I read that Woodslicer is specifically NOT
>>> recommended for sawing green lumber. Ooops. Live and learn.
>>> I've also read that I shouldn't use a blade thicker than .025" on a
>>> 14" bandsaw. The blades I've seen for green lumber are all thicker
>>> than that.
>>> Are there any bandsaw blades you would recommend for resawing green
>>> lumber?
>
>> Fewer teeth, less than one per inch. And the guides can be a problem.
>> roller guides tend to hammer the debris onto the blade, ceramic guides
>> tend to keep the blades clean.
>
> First, it turns out I had a Timberwolf blade installed on the saw, not
> that it made a difference.
>
> I ended up buying a "woodturners" blade from highland woodworking:
>
> http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/woodturners-bandsawblade.aspx
>
> It performed MUCH better in green wood. I was able to saw several two
> foot long logs into 1" thick boards easily.
>
> The only real issue I had was buildup on the bandsaw tires. I would have
> to stop periodically and use a putty knife to scrape the sawdust from the
> tires. It was really stuck on there.
>
> Also, I had to readjust for drift after cutting several boards.
>
> I now have a good stack of boards from a Holly tree and a few boards from
> a plum tree. The plum wood is beautiful, but the tree was mostly rotten
> and bug infested (worms and ants) so there wasn't much I could salvage
> from it. I cut it mostly as an experiment in making lumber, but I have no
> idea what I'm going to use it for. It'll take at least a year to dry, so
> I guess I have time to figure something out. :)
>
> Anthony Watson
> www.mountainsoftware.com
> www.watsondiy.com

Glue the head of an old toothbrush so that it brushes the top of the
bottom tire.
Use a dust collector to extract the loose dust from the lower housing.
This will keep a lot of the dust from going up to the top housing
and sticking on the tire.
Use metal or ceramic blade guides. This keeps a lot of the stuff from
sticking on the blade.
Spray a litle pam on the sides of the blades while it is running. This
helps to prevent build-up.

You may be doing all or most of these things already, but they help.

--
 GW Ross 

 I have read and understood the above. 
 X________________ 





Ll

Leon

in reply to HerHusband on 07/10/2014 3:31 AM

12/10/2014 9:20 AM

On 10/6/2014 10:31 PM, HerHusband wrote:
> I have a Grizzly 14" G0555 bandsaw with a riser kit. I primarily just use
> it for resawing.
>
> I have been using the 105" Woodslicer blade which performs OK.
>
> Unfortunately, I tried resawing some green logs today and the blade had
> lots of problems with binding and warping. I assume the blade is toast now.
>
> After the fact, of course, I read that Woodslicer is specifically NOT
> recommended for sawing green lumber. Ooops. Live and learn.
>
> I've also read that I shouldn't use a blade thicker than .025" on a 14"
> bandsaw. The blades I've seen for green lumber are all thicker than that.
>
> Are there any bandsaw blades you would recommend for resawing green lumber?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Anthony
>


Fewer teeth, less than one per inch. And the guides can be a problem.
roller guides tend to hammer the debris onto the blade, ceramic guides
tend to keep the blades clean.

When all else fails, call the manufacturer of the blades and ask for a
recommendation.

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to HerHusband on 07/10/2014 3:31 AM

07/10/2014 5:01 PM

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 03:31:41 +0000, HerHusband wrote:

> I've also read that I shouldn't use a blade thicker than .025" on a 14"
> bandsaw. The blades I've seen for green lumber are all thicker than
> that.
>
> Are there any bandsaw blades you would recommend for resawing green
> lumber?

I wiped a blade down with one of the spray "dry" lubricants for saw
tables, etc.. I was a little worried that it would then slip on the
wheels but it didn't. And it sure helped the cutting.

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to HerHusband on 07/10/2014 3:31 AM

07/10/2014 3:45 PM

"HerHusband" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]

> > Next time you order from Highland, you might want to give one of their
> > "Woodturner's Blades" a try. I've used it several times to cut green
> > and greenish logs, and it seems to work well.
>
> I found that blade yesterday, but the .032" thickness seems thicker than
> the recommended .025" maximum for a 14" bandsaw. Have you had any
> issues?
> From what I gather, the thicker blades fatique faster and could
> potentially break?

Personally, I wouldn't be worrying about .007 but you could call Highland
and ask.

As an alternative, maybe the Wood Slicer blade? The blade is 1/2", 3-4
tpi, .022.

FWIW, I've had one on my 14" import saw for at least ten years. The same
one. OK, I don't do a lot of bandsaw work anymore but I used to.

I once went to a wood show and bought a Timberwolf blade because I had
heard good things about it. I went home, put it on, made one cut, took it
off and put back the Wood Slicer. I don't know if I still have the
Timberwolf or not but I probably tossed it.

The only other blade I use is a 3/16 4 tpi skiptooth. I sometimes use
both blades to cut green wood but not all that often.


--

dadiOH
____________________________

Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?
Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net

GR

"G. Ross"

in reply to HerHusband on 07/10/2014 3:31 AM

07/10/2014 3:45 AM

HerHusband wrote:
> I have a Grizzly 14" G0555 bandsaw with a riser kit. I primarily just use
> it for resawing.
>
> I have been using the 105" Woodslicer blade which performs OK.
>
> Unfortunately, I tried resawing some green logs today and the blade had
> lots of problems with binding and warping. I assume the blade is toast now.
>
> After the fact, of course, I read that Woodslicer is specifically NOT
> recommended for sawing green lumber. Ooops. Live and learn.
>
> I've also read that I shouldn't use a blade thicker than .025" on a 14"
> bandsaw. The blades I've seen for green lumber are all thicker than that.
>
> Are there any bandsaw blades you would recommend for resawing green lumber?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Anthony

I have the same saw setup and mainly use it to cut bowl blanks from
green wood. I use timberwolf blades 3 tpi but not sure what hook
angle. Recommend you call suffolk machinery who sell them and they
will know what you need. They are very helpful and knowledgeable.
800-234-7297.

--
 GW Ross 

 As long as the answer is right, who 
 cares if the question is wrong? 





KM

Kevin Miller

in reply to HerHusband on 07/10/2014 3:31 AM

07/10/2014 8:28 AM

On 10/06/2014 11:45 PM, G. Ross wrote:
> I have the same saw setup and mainly use it to cut bowl blanks from
> green wood. I use timberwolf blades 3 tpi but not sure what hook
> angle. Recommend you call suffolk machinery who sell them and they will
> know what you need. They are very helpful and knowledgeable. 800-234-7297.

Took the words right out of my mouth. Been using 3 tpi Timberwolf
blades to cut bowl blanks for years. Getting them straight from the
source (Suffolk Machinery) is also cheaper than anywhere else. At least
that I've found.

I don't run them as loose as they recommend, but I do wipe the blade
down with Pam cooking spray which helps with the friction...

...Kevin
--
Kevin Miller
Juneau, Alaska
http://www.alaska.net/~atftb
"In the history of the world, no one has ever washed a rented car."
- Lawrence Summers


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