HF just came out with a dust collector for $349 that is "supposed" to have a
CFM of 2760. It comes with an adapter to provide 3, 3 3/4", ports. Of
course, the adapter can be despensed with and you can jury rig any size
port you want.
Now for the question. My shop drops, on my current DC system are 4" PVC and
the DC "supposedly" has a CFM of 1200. Could I run something rated at
twice what I am currently using on those 4"pipes? If so, would there be a
degradation in effeciency?
I am currently running just the impeller and motor unit of a HF dust
collector and routing it through a cyclone and venting the dust outside the
shop in a little, specially built, "outhouse" What I was thinking of doing
is just buying the motor and impeller (less than $200) and replacing the
existing blower.
Deb
On Aug 27, 2:36=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Aug 27, 1:23=A0pm, "Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > HF just came out with a dust collector for $349 that is "supposed" to h=
ave a
> > CFM of 2760. =A0It comes with an adapter to provide 3, 3 3/4", ports. =
=A0Of
> > course, the adapter can be despensed with and you can jury rig any size
> > port you want.
>
> 99dB? =A0Wow!
>
If the HF DC runs at 99dB...
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=3D98872
Does that mean this one will also run at 99dB?
http://www.lagunatools.com/dustcollector-platinum3
On Aug 27, 1:23=A0pm, "Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote:
> HF just came out with a dust collector for $349 that is "supposed" to hav=
e a
> CFM of 2760. =A0It comes with an adapter to provide 3, 3 3/4", ports. =A0=
Of
> course, the adapter can be despensed with and you can jury rig any size
> port you want.
99dB? Wow!
> Now for the question. =A0My shop drops, on my current DC system are 4" PV=
C and
> the DC "supposedly" has a CFM of 1200. =A0Could I run something rated at
> twice what I am currently using on those 4"pipes? =A0If so, would there b=
e a
> degradation in effeciency?
There will certainly be a degradation in efficiency, but it still may
be better than what you have now. ...if you can somehow call 99dB
"better".
> I am currently running just the impeller and motor unit of a HF dust
> collector and routing it through a cyclone and venting the dust outside t=
he
> shop in a little, specially built, "outhouse" =A0What I was thinking of d=
oing
> is just buying the motor and impeller (less than $200) and replacing the
> existing blower.
Your dust just goes outside? No filter? I thought about doing that,
but thought the neighbors would get out the torches. ;-) Instead,
I'm leaning towards putting my shop over the garage and leave the DC
(Penn State ordered - not shipped yet :-( ) down in the garage with
the compressor.
On Aug 28, 7:00=A0am, "Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Morris Dovey wrote:
> > Dr. Deb wrote:
>
> >> I noticed the 99db level, but I can wall it off to reduce the overall
> >> effect
> >> of the noise. =A0The main thing I am interested in is the effeciency.
> >> Would I be better off using the $200 to take my wife out for a really
> >> nice dinner or upgrading the DC?
>
> > Now /that's/ a tough question. What's the db reading on your wife?
>
> Actually, the wife is about 30db. =A0So using the DC to drown her out is
> really serious over kill. =A0;-)
You really shouldn't say things like that in a public forum. Next
you're going to be tell us about the one-armed man...
On 2009-08-27, Limp Arbor <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> If the HF DC runs at 99dB...
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=98872
>
> Does that mean this one will also run at 99dB?
> http://www.lagunatools.com/dustcollector-platinum3
With the exception of the collection bags, the two systems look
identical.
nb
By this chart, I wouldn't buy anything rated at 99db, no matter how good the
(perceived) deal.
http://www.gcaudio.com/resources/howtos/loudness.html
jc
"Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> HF just came out with a dust collector for $349 that is "supposed" to have
> a
> CFM of 2760. It comes with an adapter to provide 3, 3 3/4", ports. Of
> course, the adapter can be despensed with and you can jury rig any size
> port you want.
>
> Now for the question. My shop drops, on my current DC system are 4" PVC
> and
> the DC "supposedly" has a CFM of 1200. Could I run something rated at
> twice what I am currently using on those 4"pipes? If so, would there be a
> degradation in effeciency?
>
> I am currently running just the impeller and motor unit of a HF dust
> collector and routing it through a cyclone and venting the dust outside
> the
> shop in a little, specially built, "outhouse" What I was thinking of
> doing
> is just buying the motor and impeller (less than $200) and replacing the
> existing blower.
>
> Deb
Morris Dovey wrote:
> Dr. Deb wrote:
>
>> I noticed the 99db level, but I can wall it off to reduce the overall
>> effect
>> of the noise. The main thing I am interested in is the effeciency.
>> Would I be better off using the $200 to take my wife out for a really
>> nice dinner or upgrading the DC?
>
> Now /that's/ a tough question. What's the db reading on your wife?
>
Actually, the wife is about 30db. So using the DC to drown her out is
really serious over kill. ;-)
Deb
All dust collection questions are to be taken to the God of DC Bill
Pentz. Read from his wisdom and learn.
http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/index.cfm
Interesting note, living in California I never worried about it but I
have heard that venting to the outside can evacuate all of the heat
from your shop and that can be an issue in colder clims.
On Aug 27, 11:23=A0am, "Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote:
> HF just came out with a dust collector for $349 that is "supposed" to hav=
e a
> CFM of 2760. =A0It comes with an adapter to provide 3, 3 3/4", ports. =A0=
Of
> course, the adapter can be despensed with and you can jury rig any size
> port you want.
>
> Now for the question. =A0My shop drops, on my current DC system are 4" PV=
C and
> the DC "supposedly" has a CFM of 1200. =A0Could I run something rated at
> twice what I am currently using on those 4"pipes? =A0If so, would there b=
e a
> degradation in effeciency?
>
> I am currently running just the impeller and motor unit of a HF dust
> collector and routing it through a cyclone and venting the dust outside t=
he
> shop in a little, specially built, "outhouse" =A0What I was thinking of d=
oing
> is just buying the motor and impeller (less than $200) and replacing the
> existing blower.
>
> Deb
On 08/27/2009 12:23 PM, Dr. Deb wrote:
>
> HF just came out with a dust collector for $349 that is "supposed" to have a
> CFM of 2760. It comes with an adapter to provide 3, 3 3/4", ports. Of
> course, the adapter can be despensed with and you can jury rig any size
> port you want.
That unit has 5 micron bags, which isn't great. It also needs far more
filter area to work properly. A rough calculation shows the filters to
be undersized by at least a factor of 4 for the nominal airflow.
Chris
Dr. Deb wrote:
>
> HF just came out with a dust collector for $349 that is "supposed" to have
> a
> CFM of 2760. It comes with an adapter to provide 3, 3 3/4", ports. Of
> course, the adapter can be despensed with and you can jury rig any size
> port you want.
>
> Now for the question. My shop drops, on my current DC system are 4" PVC
> and
> the DC "supposedly" has a CFM of 1200. Could I run something rated at
> twice what I am currently using on those 4"pipes? If so, would there be a
> degradation in effeciency?
>
> I am currently running just the impeller and motor unit of a HF dust
> collector and routing it through a cyclone and venting the dust outside
> the
> shop in a little, specially built, "outhouse" What I was thinking of
> doing is just buying the motor and impeller (less than $200) and replacing
> the existing blower.
>
> Deb
I noticed the 99db level, but I can wall it off to reduce the overall effect
of the noise. The main thing I am interested in is the effeciency. Would
I be better off using the $200 to take my wife out for a really nice dinner
or upgrading the DC?
I know, it is impossible to tell until I do it. But Scripture says, "There
is wisdom in many counslors." :-)
Deb
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:56:21 -0700 (PDT), Limp Arbor
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Aug 27, 2:36 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Aug 27, 1:23 pm, "Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > HF just came out with a dust collector for $349 that is "supposed" to have a
>> > CFM of 2760. It comes with an adapter to provide 3, 3 3/4", ports. Of
>> > course, the adapter can be despensed with and you can jury rig any size
>> > port you want.
>>
>> 99dB? Wow!
>>
>
>
>If the HF DC runs at 99dB...
>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=98872
>Does that mean this one will also run at 99dB?
>http://www.lagunatools.com/dustcollector-platinum3
Could be, but I'll never find out. 70dB is more in line with reality.
Dr. Deb wrote:
> I noticed the 99db level, but I can wall it off to reduce the overall effect
> of the noise. The main thing I am interested in is the effeciency. Would
> I be better off using the $200 to take my wife out for a really nice dinner
> or upgrading the DC?
Now /that's/ a tough question. What's the db reading on your wife?
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
"Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dr. Deb wrote:
>
>> I noticed the 99db level, but I can wall it off to reduce the overall
>> effect
>> of the noise. The main thing I am interested in is the effeciency.
>> Would
>> I be better off using the $200 to take my wife out for a really nice
>> dinner
>> or upgrading the DC?
>
> Now /that's/ a tough question. What's the db reading on your wife?
My thoughts exactly... then again if you leave the collector on it may drown
out the other...