TB

Tom Banes

21/05/2005 4:47 PM

Link Belt For Jet JTAS-10 - Size?

Planning to replace drive belts on the saw (jerky start up) and want
to make sure I get the right size and enough length. The existing
belts (off brand automobile v-belts (original?)) are 1/2" on the wide
side. My imprecise estimate is that they're each about 24" in total
length.

So is 1/2" link belt and buying 8' (3 belts plus the "more is better"
principle) about right?

Thanks.

Tom


This topic has 11 replies

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"Highspeed"

in reply to Tom Banes on 21/05/2005 4:47 PM

23/05/2005 1:04 AM

Why not just take the belt off and measure it? I did for my saw. What
I found was that it was a few links too large and then I just removed
them.

TB

Tom Banes

in reply to Tom Banes on 21/05/2005 4:47 PM

22/05/2005 4:35 PM

On Sat, 21 May 2005 23:40:39 GMT, Ba r r y
<[email protected]> wrote:

>If it's new, wait.
>
>Cabinet saws are heavy, they dampen a lot of vibration. Belts soften
>and stretch with use.
>
>If it's not new, go for the link belts.
>
>Barry

Barry:

thanks for the input. The saw is not "new" as I bought it used, but
not VERY used. The prior owner had it in one of those public storage
sheds for about 1 yaer before getting tired of paying the fees, so it
sat unused in Texas heat for some time. I suspect the belts toook a
pretty god "set". They look great, no visible wear. I've run five or
six hours on it in the last couple of weeks. The first start up of the
day is pretty abrupt, then subsequent starts are smoother as the belts
warm up.

I don't mind the expense of sticking link belts on it, just not sure
of sizing.

Regards.

DD

"Darrell Dorsey"

in reply to Tom Banes on 21/05/2005 4:47 PM

22/05/2005 10:25 PM

Sorry Tom,
I still have the belt from Jet Contractor saw that I had as well. It says
the same thing. I installed a link belt on it. My guess is the 250 means
is 25". It was an 1/2" belt, size A.

Darrell


"Tom Banes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 21 May 2005 18:54:17 -0500, "Darrell Dorsey"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Read the label on your existing belt. It should say something like A-52,
>>or
>>A-50. A if for 1/2" and 50 is for 50".
>>
>>Darrell
>
>
> Thanks Darrell. I appreciate your response. Regrettably the only
> markings on the existing belts are
>
> "First Auto Belt", "17-250" then a "20915". probably a part number.
>
> Probably Taiwan markings. I had hoped that someone with a Jet knew
> the right size.
>
> Regards.

JB

Joe Brophy

in reply to Tom Banes on 21/05/2005 4:47 PM

24/05/2005 1:50 AM

On Sat, 21 May 2005 16:47:29 -0500, Tom Banes =
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Planning to replace drive belts on the saw (jerky start up) and want
>to make sure I get the right size and enough length. The existing
>belts (off brand automobile v-belts (original?)) are 1/2" on the wide
>side. My imprecise estimate is that they're each about 24" in total
>length.=20
>

WW Grainger has a good overview of different sizes of v belts and a =
picture with
dimensions for each. It begins on page 252 of their online catalog, =
their site is
www.grainger.com. The information on the belt sizes is very useful if =
you have a belt
with hard to understand numbering systems or (as in my case) have a =
pulley that you are
not sure what size belt it is made for. I had to reference this info =
just today to insure
that the power twist belts I have were in the right size to be used in a =
compressor I am
just finishing building. I usually buy the power twist belting off of =
ebay in 25' boxes.
There are different sizes of power twist belting as well but they usually=
overlap, with
one sizes covering two or three sizes of v-belt. The loops you can buy =
from rockler or
harbor freight are usually the size that covers the 'A' and 'B' series of=
v-belt sizes and
are about 5' long overall.

I have used the loop belts for some time and the really do reduce the =
transmitted
vibrations from the motor you will likely be able to hear it , or rather =
not hear it so
much. Let me know if you have any other questions about loop belts and I=
will do my best
to get you an answer. I had to go through the fact finding process for =
this stuff some
time ago so I may be able to save you some time and effort, hope this =
helps. Joe
>So is 1/2" link belt and buying 8' (3 belts plus the "more is better"
>principle) about right?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Tom =20

Joe Brophy
CountryTech Computer
email: [email protected]

DD

"Darrell Dorsey"

in reply to Tom Banes on 21/05/2005 4:47 PM

21/05/2005 6:54 PM

Read the label on your existing belt. It should say something like A-52, or
A-50. A if for 1/2" and 50 is for 50".

Darrell


"Tom Banes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Planning to replace drive belts on the saw (jerky start up) and want
> to make sure I get the right size and enough length. The existing
> belts (off brand automobile v-belts (original?)) are 1/2" on the wide
> side. My imprecise estimate is that they're each about 24" in total
> length.
>
> So is 1/2" link belt and buying 8' (3 belts plus the "more is better"
> principle) about right?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tom

TB

Tom Banes

in reply to Tom Banes on 21/05/2005 4:47 PM

24/05/2005 4:49 PM

On Tue, 24 May 2005 01:50:57 GMT, Joe Brophy <[email protected]>
wrote:

Joe:

Thanks for your input. I'll take a look at the Grainger site to see if
I can figure out what to order.

Regards.

Tom
>>
>
>WW Grainger has a good overview of different sizes of v belts and a picture with
>dimensions for each. It begins on page 252 of their online catalog, their site is
>www.grainger.com. The information on the belt sizes is very useful if you have a belt
>with hard to understand numbering systems or (as in my case) have a pulley that you are
>not sure what size belt it is made for. I had to reference this info just today to insure
>that the power twist belts I have were in the right size to be used in a compressor I am
>just finishing building. I usually buy the power twist belting off of ebay in 25' boxes.
>There are different sizes of power twist belting as well but they usually overlap, with
>one sizes covering two or three sizes of v-belt. The loops you can buy from rockler or
>harbor freight are usually the size that covers the 'A' and 'B' series of v-belt sizes and
>are about 5' long overall.
>
>I have used the loop belts for some time and the really do reduce the transmitted
>vibrations from the motor you will likely be able to hear it , or rather not hear it so
>much. Let me know if you have any other questions about loop belts and I will do my best
>to get you an answer. I had to go through the fact finding process for this stuff some
>time ago so I may be able to save you some time and effort, hope this helps. Joe
>>So is 1/2" link belt and buying 8' (3 belts plus the "more is better"
>>principle) about right?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Tom
>
>Joe Brophy
>CountryTech Computer
>email: [email protected]

TB

Tom Banes

in reply to Tom Banes on 21/05/2005 4:47 PM

22/05/2005 4:28 PM

On Sat, 21 May 2005 18:54:17 -0500, "Darrell Dorsey"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Read the label on your existing belt. It should say something like A-52, or
>A-50. A if for 1/2" and 50 is for 50".
>
>Darrell


Thanks Darrell. I appreciate your response. Regrettably the only
markings on the existing belts are

"First Auto Belt", "17-250" then a "20915". probably a part number.

Probably Taiwan markings. I had hoped that someone with a Jet knew
the right size.

Regards.

LK

Larry Kraus

in reply to Tom Banes on 21/05/2005 4:47 PM

23/05/2005 6:22 PM

Tom Banes <[email protected]> wrote:

>The saw is not "new" as I bought it used, but
>not VERY used. The prior owner had it in one of those public storage
>sheds for about 1 yaer before getting tired of paying the fees, so it
>sat unused in Texas heat for some time. I suspect the belts toook a
>pretty god "set". They look great, no visible wear. I've run five or
>six hours on it in the last couple of weeks. The first start up of the
>day is pretty abrupt, then subsequent starts are smoother as the belts
>warm up.
>
>I don't mind the expense of sticking link belts on it, just not sure
>of sizing.

I would be tempted to "rotate" the belts. Take off the tension, rotate
one belt a third, rotate the second belt a third the other direction,
leave the last belt alone, retension. I think this would cancel out
any "set". I also think that a bit of Googling in this group would
suggest that abrupt startups are more or less normal anyway.

TB

Tom Banes

in reply to Tom Banes on 21/05/2005 4:47 PM

23/05/2005 7:59 AM

On 23 May 2005 01:04:50 -0700, "Highspeed" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Why not just take the belt off and measure it? I did for my saw. What
>I found was that it was a few links too large and then I just removed
>them.

Thanks. I was more concerned about getting the correct width but
concensus now seems to be it's a 1/2" belt. Length is easy as you say,
just overbuy!

Regards.

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to Tom Banes on 21/05/2005 4:47 PM

21/05/2005 11:40 PM

On Sat, 21 May 2005 16:47:29 -0500, Tom Banes
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Planning to replace drive belts on the saw (jerky start up) and want
>to make sure I get the right size and enough length.

If it's new, wait.

Cabinet saws are heavy, they dampen a lot of vibration. Belts soften
and stretch with use.

If it's not new, go for the link belts.

Barry

TB

Tom Banes

in reply to Tom Banes on 21/05/2005 4:47 PM

23/05/2005 4:21 PM

On Mon, 23 May 2005 18:22:25 GMT, Larry Kraus
<[email protected]> wrote:

Larry:

Thanks, I'll try the rotation trick.

Regards.

>I would be tempted to "rotate" the belts. Take off the tension, rotate
>one belt a third, rotate the second belt a third the other direction,
>leave the last belt alone, retension. I think this would cancel out
>any "set". I also think that a bit of Googling in this group would
>suggest that abrupt startups are more or less normal anyway.


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