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[email protected] (Brian Phillips)

02/10/2003 9:28 PM

Waxing your finished project.

I read recently that you can paste wax your already finished project.
Now, my question is, what kind of finishes can you put wax on top of?
I always finish my projects with polyurethane. Can this be waxed?
And what kind of wax? I think the article I read talked about paste
wax. I have some paste wax that we use on our hardwood kitchen floor.
Will that work? Yeah, yeah, I know: try it on a scrap piece first.
And I will, but as I have limited combinations of finish to try, I'd
like to avail myself of your vast pool of knowledge, too.

Thanks, everyone!

Brian


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"Ed' stuff"

in reply to [email protected] (Brian Phillips) on 02/10/2003 9:28 PM

03/10/2003 12:44 AM

Good question, good reason. I'm in the same boat. Will watch the answers
here.
Ed



"Brian Phillips" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I read recently that you can paste wax your already finished project.
> Now, my question is, what kind of finishes can you put wax on top of?
> I always finish my projects with polyurethane. Can this be waxed?
> And what kind of wax? I think the article I read talked about paste
> wax. I have some paste wax that we use on our hardwood kitchen floor.
> Will that work? Yeah, yeah, I know: try it on a scrap piece first.
> And I will, but as I have limited combinations of finish to try, I'd
> like to avail myself of your vast pool of knowledge, too.
>
> Thanks, everyone!
>
> Brian

Pc

"PM6564"

in reply to [email protected] (Brian Phillips) on 02/10/2003 9:28 PM

03/10/2003 11:13 AM


"Brian Phillips" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I read recently that you can paste wax your already finished project.
> Now, my question is, what kind of finishes can you put wax on top of?
> I always finish my projects with polyurethane. Can this be waxed?
> And what kind of wax? I think the article I read talked about paste
> wax. I have some paste wax that we use on our hardwood kitchen floor.
> Will that work? Yeah, yeah, I know: try it on a scrap piece first.
> And I will, but as I have limited combinations of finish to try, I'd
> like to avail myself of your vast pool of knowledge, too.
>
> Thanks, everyone!
>
> Brian

You can put wax over just about any finish. Regular old paste wax works
fine or you could use car wax if you were so inclined. I use Trewax and add
a little mineral spirits to make it softer. Put it on, let it dry to a haze
and then buff it off.

NU

"Norm Underwood"

in reply to [email protected] (Brian Phillips) on 02/10/2003 9:28 PM

03/10/2003 7:08 PM


"Bob Bowles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If there is any silicone in the wax and there often is with car wax it
> creates problems trying to refinish in the future. Silicone is the
> cause of fish eye.


If you're going to refinish it in the future, you're going to have to
strip the exising finish which will remove all traces of the silicone.
The only time you need to worry about silicone is on something that has
not had its final finish applied yet.

MG

"Mike G"

in reply to [email protected] (Brian Phillips) on 02/10/2003 9:28 PM

03/10/2003 10:03 AM

Any finish can be waxed and will benefit from it.

While wax isn't much of a protector in itself it will lubricate the surface
of a finish and slow the build up of micro scratches a finish tends to
collect in day to day use.

--
Mike G.
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Brian Phillips" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I read recently that you can paste wax your already finished project.
> Now, my question is, what kind of finishes can you put wax on top of?
> I always finish my projects with polyurethane. Can this be waxed?
> And what kind of wax? I think the article I read talked about paste
> wax. I have some paste wax that we use on our hardwood kitchen floor.
> Will that work? Yeah, yeah, I know: try it on a scrap piece first.
> And I will, but as I have limited combinations of finish to try, I'd
> like to avail myself of your vast pool of knowledge, too.
>
> Thanks, everyone!
>
> Brian

JW

"Jay Windley"

in reply to [email protected] (Brian Phillips) on 02/10/2003 9:28 PM

03/10/2003 12:09 PM


"Brian Phillips" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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|
| I always finish my projects with polyurethane. Can this be waxed?

I haven't had any problems. I've used paste wax and Watco Satin Wax on
polyurethane with good results.

dD

[email protected] (DarylRos)

in reply to "Jay Windley" on 03/10/2003 12:09 PM

03/10/2003 6:41 PM

Don't use Butcher's Wax. I was told it was a carcinogen. Liberon makes the best
waxes you can find, and their 4xo steel wool is the best applicator.

Rennaisance, Black Bison, the more expensive waxes. More $ for a reason. They
are better.

JT

in reply to [email protected] (DarylRos) on 03/10/2003 6:41 PM

06/10/2003 9:52 AM


Re: Waxing your finished project.

Group: rec.woodworking Date: Fri, Oct 3, 2003, 6:41pm (EDT+4)
[email protected] (DarylRos) claims:
Don't use Butcher's Wax. I was told it was a carcinogen. <snip>

You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear". What do you
"know"?.
- Granny Weatherwax

You might want to read the MSDS on it, before you make a cliam you
can't back up.
http://butcherwax.home.comcast.net/MSDS_Bowling_Alley.pdf

JOAT
There must be a hundred silver dollars in here. I can't handle that sort
o' money, you've gotta be in the league of lawyers to steal that much.
- J. H. "Flannelfoot" Boggis

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 5 Oct 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

RL

Robert Levister

in reply to [email protected] (DarylRos) on 03/10/2003 6:41 PM

17/11/2003 2:42 PM

"T." wrote:

>
> Re: Waxing your finished project.
>
> Group: rec.woodworking Date: Fri, Oct 3, 2003, 6:41pm (EDT+4)
> [email protected] (DarylRos) claims:
> Don't use Butcher's Wax. I was told it was a carcinogen. <snip>
>
> You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear". What do you
> "know"?.
> - Granny Weatherwax
>
> You might want to read the MSDS on it, before you make a cliam you
> can't back up.
> http://butcherwax.home.comcast.net/MSDS_Bowling_Alley.pdf
>
> JOAT
> There must be a hundred silver dollars in here. I can't handle that sort
> o' money, you've gotta be in the league of lawyers to steal that much.
> - J. H. "Flannelfoot" Boggis
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 5 Oct 2003.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

cC

[email protected] (Charles Erskine)

in reply to "Jay Windley" on 03/10/2003 12:09 PM

06/10/2003 11:58 AM

Kerf's is food grade, it can't be too hazardous.

http://www3.woodcraft.com/Finishing/woodworking/4644.htm

[email protected] (DarylRos) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Don't use Butcher's Wax. I was told it was a carcinogen. Liberon makes the best
> waxes you can find, and their 4xo steel wool is the best applicator.
>
> Rennaisance, Black Bison, the more expensive waxes. More $ for a reason. They
> are better.

MB

Michael Burton

in reply to "Jay Windley" on 03/10/2003 12:09 PM

06/10/2003 9:31 AM

DarylRos wrote in news:[email protected]:

> Don't use Butcher's Wax. I was told it was a carcinogen. Liberon
> makes the best waxes you can find, and their 4xo steel wool is the
> best applicator.
>
> Rennaisance, Black Bison, the more expensive waxes. More $ for a
> reason. They are better.

So is a lot of other stuff we use in the shop. I use Butcher's wax
and like it, and will probably keep on using it. Come to think of it
everytime I turn around something else gets labeled a carcinogen.
I am starting to think that a lot of the carcinogen findings depend
on the number of research projects that have been commisioned by the
personal injury lawyers in a given year. <grin>
--
Michael Burton
Thunderbird Hardwoods
Llano, TX

mhburton at moment dot net

BB

Bob Bowles

in reply to [email protected] (Brian Phillips) on 02/10/2003 9:28 PM

03/10/2003 11:59 AM

If there is any silicone in the wax and there often is with car wax it
creates problems trying to refinish in the future. Silicone is the
cause of fish eye.

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 15:12:10 GMT, "Norm Underwood"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>And what's wrong with car wax on a finished project?

NU

"Norm Underwood"

in reply to [email protected] (Brian Phillips) on 02/10/2003 9:28 PM

03/10/2003 3:12 PM


"Bob Bowles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Johnsons and Trewax are often suggested. Avoid car wax due to
> silicone content.
>

And what's wrong with car wax on a finished project?

BB

Bob Bowles

in reply to [email protected] (Brian Phillips) on 02/10/2003 9:28 PM

03/10/2003 8:09 AM

Johnsons and Trewax are often suggested. Avoid car wax due to
silicone content.

On 2 Oct 2003 21:28:33 -0700, [email protected] (Brian
Phillips) wrote:

>And what kind of wax?


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