need more info. Tom
Wade roted:>
>I just build a cabinet largely with my router. I got more tear out than I
>was happy with.
>I tried one pass, treee passes, hitting the wrong side, going slowly, going
>fast; nothing helped.
>
>Any suggestions. I was almost desparate enough to try masking tape.
Someday, it'll all be over....
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 04:17:08 GMT, "Wade Lippman"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I just build a cabinet largely with my router. I got more tear out than I
>was happy with. I tried one pass, treee passes, hitting the wrong side, going slowly, going
>fast; nothing helped.
I don't use a router very regularly, but the quality of the bit is
usually in direct proportion to the price. Don't skimp on router bits.
Buy good brand name bits like Freud, CMT, etc.
Also, check which direction the grain runs and go with the grain. In
woods where the grain changes direction...well, you're on your own.
I don't know what "hitting the wrong side" means. But, I've read
somewhere that doing a climb cut helps eliminate tear out, but be VERY
careful when doing this.
As a last resort to your Normite ways you could try using moulding
and panel raising hand planes. :-)
Layne
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 04:17:08 GMT, "Wade Lippman"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I just build a cabinet largely with my router. I got more tear out than I
>was happy with.
>I tried one pass, treee passes, hitting the wrong side, going slowly, going
>fast; nothing helped.
>
>Any suggestions. I was almost desparate enough to try masking tape.
>
If the tear out is at the end of a board, clamp scrap to the end, and
rout right into the scrap, or rout the edge before final cutting to
length.
If the tear out is mid board, mind the grain! It sounds as if your
possibly routing the wrong way. Think of the router bit as a plane
blade, and you'll probably better understand what I mean. If all else
fails, this guy <http://www.patwarner.com/> has some excellent videos
and books with pictures that can help explain proper direction.
Check your library, they may have the resource you need, and you've
already paid for it.
Barry
A longer piece is a good idea, too. AFA tearout in the middle of the cut,
lighter passes takes care of a lot of that. And wood choice. I found Oak to
be very brittle. Also, I always try to route using a router table to
eliminate another factor in bad product: me.
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Wade Lippman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I just build a cabinet largely with my router. I got more tear out than
I
> > was happy with.
> > I tried one pass, treee passes, hitting the wrong side, going slowly,
> going
> > fast; nothing helped.
>
> A few things I've found that have helped are a sacrificial piece of wood
> butted up against the end of the piece experiencing the tear out. Another
> method is to do lighter cuts. However, the most effective method I've
found
> to eliminate tearout is to route a piece of wood longer than needed and
then
> cut it down to exact size with the tablesaw. Not always possible and
> certainly is a little more wasteful, but there it is.
>
>
Do you mean on the ends? If so, clamp a piece of same-size scrap to the edge
and just continue the route onto that.
"Wade Lippman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just build a cabinet largely with my router. I got more tear out than I
> was happy with.
> I tried one pass, treee passes, hitting the wrong side, going slowly,
going
> fast; nothing helped.
>
> Any suggestions. I was almost desparate enough to try masking tape.
>
>
hardwood or ply?
free handed router or table?
what kinda bit?
how much stock removal on a pass?
how fast are you going?
Wade Lippman wrote:
> I just build a cabinet largely with my router. I got more tear out than I
> was happy with.
> I tried one pass, treee passes, hitting the wrong side, going slowly, going
> fast; nothing helped.
>
> Any suggestions. I was almost desparate enough to try masking tape.
>
>
Ditto - here's what I found:
1) When routing all round including end-grain, first do the ends first, so
that when you do the sides the bit routs away the torn-out part.
2) Using an end-block tightly clamped to the tear-out end of the work, of a
timber of similar (or greater) hardness should prevent tear out.
3) you can start at the 'wrong end' of the end grain and gently 'back-up'
the router holding it very firmly and moving slowly (but avoid burning) for
about half an inch will shape the tear-out end without splintering. Then you
can rout the right way as normal.
Also make sure the mits are sharp and clean of pitch build-up.
"Wade Lippman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just build a cabinet largely with my router. I got more tear out than I
> was happy with.
> I tried one pass, treee passes, hitting the wrong side, going slowly,
going
> fast; nothing helped.
>
> Any suggestions. I was almost desparate enough to try masking tape.
>
>
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:19:32 -0500, Traves W. Coppock
<newsgroups-AT-farmvalleywoodworks-DOT-com> wrote:
>local "branch" library actually ordered a subscription to FWW after i
>suggested it might make a good addition to the periodicals collection
>
>
>Traves
I've found many librarians to be extremely helpful to anyone who
actually uses the place. I think the good ones get great satisfaction
from making their library as usable as possible.
Don't forget, these folks often have to fight for their municipal
budget money, happy "customers" help them keep a library they can be
proud of.
I seriously doubt very many people go into library science with dreams
of becoming millionaires, they usually love what they do.
Barry
On projects that matter, I have made the habit of running the router
"backward" around the object at least once. It will normally not cut
the full profile because the bit is not being pulled into the cut, which
leaves a small amount remaining to be routed. Make a final smooth
controlled pass in the right direction. Seems to help me.
######
Keep the whole world singing. . .
Dan G
(remove the 7)
"Wade Lippman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just build a cabinet largely with my router. I got more tear out
than I
> was happy with.
> I tried one pass, treee passes, hitting the wrong side, going slowly,
going
> fast; nothing helped.
>
> Any suggestions. I was almost desparate enough to try masking tape.
>
>
"Wade Lippman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just build a cabinet largely with my router. I got more tear out than I
> was happy with.
> I tried one pass, treee passes, hitting the wrong side, going slowly,
going
> fast; nothing helped.
A few things I've found that have helped are a sacrificial piece of wood
butted up against the end of the piece experiencing the tear out. Another
method is to do lighter cuts. However, the most effective method I've found
to eliminate tearout is to route a piece of wood longer than needed and then
cut it down to exact size with the tablesaw. Not always possible and
certainly is a little more wasteful, but there it is.
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 10:21:42 GMT, B a r r y B u r k e J r .
<[email protected]> Crawled out of the shop and
said. . .:
snip
>Check your library, they may have the resource you need, and you've
>already paid for it.
amen to that. . .
the local library is a great source for books and magazines... my
local "branch" library actually ordered a subscription to FWW after i
suggested it might make a good addition to the periodicals collection
Traves