RC

Richard Clements

03/08/2004 12:32 PM

anyone seen any plans for ambient air filters

the concept looks easy enough, my thought was take a couple of high
filtration furious filters like 3m's filtrete, stack them 3-4 deep put a
squirrel cage fan to pull are though and mount this on my garage ceiling,
the one big problem is the filters are a little bigger then I would like
16x20x1, anybody have a better Idea?

Richard


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[email protected] (mnterpfan)

in reply to Richard Clements on 03/08/2004 12:32 PM

04/08/2004 5:25 AM

Richard Clements <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> the concept looks easy enough, my thought was take a couple of high
> filtration ....

There are pretty good plans in the book Controlling Dust In The
Workshop© by Rick Peters. I built one with a three speed 1/3 hp blower
motor with squirrel cage. (the plans call for a 1/15hp motor)
Therefore, everything had to be upsized to fit the blower housing
inside. Fortunately, the filters cost the same irregardless of size.

Furthermore, there was a discussion was going about switching the
different speeds about a month or so ago,. Someone suggested a on/off
switch and two three-way switches. Thats the way I went and it works
very well.

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to Richard Clements on 03/08/2004 12:32 PM

03/08/2004 4:46 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> the concept looks easy enough, my thought was take a couple of high
> filtration furious filters like 3m's filtrete, stack them 3-4 deep put a
> squirrel cage fan to pull are though and mount this on my garage ceiling,
> the one big problem is the filters are a little bigger then I would like
> 16x20x1, anybody have a better Idea?
>
I use the 16x20 in a box hung from the rafters. Smaller filters should
be available. But I only use one fine filter preceded by a standard (99
cent) fiberglass filter. If you just use the fine ones, they clog very
fast. The coarse one catches all the big stuff and some of the fine as
well.

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RC

Richard Clements

in reply to Richard Clements on 03/08/2004 12:32 PM

03/08/2004 12:35 PM

Richard Clements wrote:

> the concept looks easy enough, my thought was take a couple of high
> filtration furious filters like 3m's filtrete, stack them 3-4 deep put a
> squirrel cage fan to pull are though and mount this on my garage ceiling,
> the one big problem is the filters are a little bigger then I would like
> 16x20x1, anybody have a better Idea?
>
> Richard

Furnace filters sorry, spell check got me again

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Richard Clements on 03/08/2004 12:35 PM

03/08/2004 6:57 PM

Richard Clements asks:

>
>> the concept looks easy enough, my thought was take a couple of high
>> filtration furious filters like 3m's filtrete, stack them 3-4 deep put a
>> squirrel cage fan to pull are though and mount this on my garage ceiling,
>> the one big problem is the filters are a little bigger then I would like
>> 16x20x1, anybody have a better Idea?
>>
>> Richard
>
>Furnace filters sorry, spell check got me again
>

Regular furnace filters on 20x20 fan boxes work pretty well. One on each side
is best. I tape them on, others get fancier. The incoming side nasties up
fastest. Peel, toss and put the next 99 cent special in place. After a couple
years, the fan motor gives out. Spend 14 bucks for another one.

I've seen regular furnace filters as small as 12" x something or other. That
should work on your squirrel cage blower.

Charlie Self
"Give me golf clubs, fresh air and a beautiful partner, and you can keep the
clubs and the fresh air." Jack Benny

nn

in reply to Richard Clements on 03/08/2004 12:35 PM

04/08/2004 4:25 AM

I got squirrel cage and 2 speed motor from plumber when they installed
a new unit. Cost $8.00USD for switch.

On 03 Aug 2004 18:57:33 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:

>Regular furnace filters on 20x20 fan boxes work pretty well. One on each side
>is best. I tape them on, others get fancier. The incoming side nasties up
>fastest. Peel, toss and put the next 99 cent special in place. After a couple
>years, the fan motor gives out. Spend 14 bucks for another one.

GR

Gerald Ross

in reply to Richard Clements on 03/08/2004 12:32 PM

04/08/2004 3:16 PM

Richard Clements wrote:
> the concept looks easy enough, my thought was take a couple of high
> filtration furious filters like 3m's filtrete, stack them 3-4 deep put a
> squirrel cage fan to pull are though and mount this on my garage ceiling,
> the one big problem is the filters are a little bigger then I would like
> 16x20x1, anybody have a better Idea?
>
> Richard
Mine are 14 x 25 stacked low filtration (for chips) high filtration then
a high filtration pleated cloth bag type. I built
it into a table with holes in the top so it can also be used as a
sanding table. Air exhausts downward under the table. It has a double
squirrel cage making it a lower profile.

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charlie b

in reply to Richard Clements on 03/08/2004 12:32 PM

04/08/2004 12:58 PM

Richard Clements wrote:
>
> the concept looks easy enough, my thought was take a couple of high
> filtration furious filters like 3m's filtrete, stack them 3-4 deep put a
> squirrel cage fan to pull are though and mount this on my garage ceiling,
> the one big problem is the filters are a little bigger then I would like
> 16x20x1, anybody have a better Idea?
>
> Richard

Not a set of plans but enough info to build one that fits your needs -
an outfeed table / downdraft sanding table / ambient air cleaner
which uses an old furnace squirrel cage blower and some pleated
cartridge filters - diesel truck filters work pretty well.

http://home.comcast.net/~charliebcz/CBAirCleaner.html

charlie b

jJ

[email protected] (Jay Chan)

in reply to Richard Clements on 03/08/2004 12:32 PM

05/08/2004 8:23 AM

> the one big problem is the filters are a little bigger then I would like
> 16x20x1, anybody have a better Idea?

I believe the combined surface area of the filter including the folded
area needs to be large enough in order to ease the air flow.
Therefore, a large filter may not be a bad idea. You may want to look
up a dust collection book to look for the formula to determine the
right size of filter for your blower.

If you really need it to be low-profile, I think you can use two or
three filter cartridges (that normally use in a shop vac) to get the
same filter area in a very low profile. But they probably cost more
and the way to mounting them is more complicated than regular filters.
And the "cost more" part "probably" defeats the purpose of making an
air cleaner yourself instead of getting a store-bought one.

Jay Chan


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