A friend of mine has asked me to repair a Nichols & Stone armless Windsor
dining room chair that is one of a set of eight. The back has two outside
support spindles with a mortised and tenoned top curved rail. One of the
support spindles broke completely off in the hole in the seat. The spindle
appears to have been turned on three different centers making it far too
complicated for me to reproduce with my limited lathe skills. Any
suggestions on how to make a repair of this spindle that will hold together?
I was thinking of drilling a hole through the spindle from the bottom and
inserting a long wood screw to hold the pieces together and gluing the
pieces together. What type of glue would give the best strength for this
type of end grain joinery? Is this type of repair worth doing? Also due to
the offset (lean) of the back figuring out how to clamp this assembly up is
beyond my imagination -- any thoughts?
Your help and thoughts would be appreciated.
Dave
Took a couple of pictures to help visualize the problem and published them
here:
http://www.ctel.net/~jds2001/wc0002_r1.jpg
http://www.ctel.net/~jds2001/wc0001_r1.jpg
The outside spindle on the back is broken right above the seat. Hope this
helps.
Dave
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> On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 08:45:55 -0400, "jds" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >A friend of mine has asked me to repair a Nichols & Stone armless
Windsor
> >dining room chair that is one of a set of eight. The back has two
outside
> >support spindles with a mortised and tenoned top curved rail. One of the
> >support spindles broke completely off in the hole in the seat. The
spindle
> >appears to have been turned on three different centers making it far too
> >complicated for me to reproduce with my limited lathe skills. Any
> >suggestions on how to make a repair of this spindle that will hold
together?
> >I was thinking of drilling a hole through the spindle from the bottom and
> >inserting a long wood screw to hold the pieces together and gluing the
> >pieces together. What type of glue would give the best strength for this
> >type of end grain joinery? Is this type of repair worth doing? Also due
to
> >the offset (lean) of the back figuring out how to clamp this assembly up
is
> >beyond my imagination -- any thoughts?
> >
> >Your help and thoughts would be appreciated.
> >
> >Dave
> >
>
>
> pictures would help....
Yeah but what happens when Will tries to fix wifeys dead mothers chair and
cant? and ends up ruining it?
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> Wasn't it Will Rogers that commented about a "friend" down the street
> that was mad at him "I don't know why, I've never done anything for
> him"?
>
> On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 14:57:23 GMT, "Clif" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >That being said. If you are going to repair something for a friend, just
be
> >careful. Some friends are very appreciative of this ( I do computer work
a
> >lot for friends ) but sometimes, if it is beyond your skill level, or
beyond
> >repair, its best to turn them to someone who does this for a living all
the
> >time. I am not sure if that makes sense, and apologize if I offended
> >anyone, but to me, it is better to save a friend than to either wreck the
> >furniture, or not do it to their satisfaction and ruin the friendship,
> >especially if this is an older piece of furniture or family heirloom
>
"jds" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Took a couple of pictures to help visualize the problem and published
> them here:
>
> http://www.ctel.net/~jds2001/wc0002_r1.jpg
> http://www.ctel.net/~jds2001/wc0001_r1.jpg
>
> The outside spindle on the back is broken right above the seat. Hope
> this helps.
>
> Dave
Well, that clears it up a little bit. But think about what Clif said...
I've got some chairs, a little bit like that design. On mine, the seats
tend to split. A couple of McFeeley's draw the reglued split back
together. I haven't needed to repair one twice in about 15 years.
Your friend's chair has a different problem. I don't really like the idea
of driving a screw into end grain, particularly where the part is rather
slender. If you think you can drill an accurate hole, I'd think of using a
piece of dowel, like a loose tenon in concept, to try to get some long
grain glue surface, as well as some strength.
Good luck, Dave. It is good to see that you have a well-equipped shop in
which to work. My wife showing off my shop and my work gets me more
'opportunities' than I really want. Is your situation similar?
Patriarch
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 08:45:55 -0400, "jds" <[email protected]> wrote:
>A friend of mine has asked me to repair a Nichols & Stone armless Windsor
>dining room chair that is one of a set of eight. The back has two outside
>support spindles with a mortised and tenoned top curved rail. One of the
>support spindles broke completely off in the hole in the seat. The spindle
>appears to have been turned on three different centers making it far too
>complicated for me to reproduce with my limited lathe skills. Any
>suggestions on how to make a repair of this spindle that will hold together?
>I was thinking of drilling a hole through the spindle from the bottom and
>inserting a long wood screw to hold the pieces together and gluing the
>pieces together. What type of glue would give the best strength for this
>type of end grain joinery? Is this type of repair worth doing? Also due to
>the offset (lean) of the back figuring out how to clamp this assembly up is
>beyond my imagination -- any thoughts?
>
>Your help and thoughts would be appreciated.
>
>Dave
>
pictures would help....
First of all, I am a newbie and no absolutley squat about woodworking
That being said. If you are going to repair something for a friend, just be
careful. Some friends are very appreciative of this ( I do computer work a
lot for friends ) but sometimes, if it is beyond your skill level, or beyond
repair, its best to turn them to someone who does this for a living all the
time. I am not sure if that makes sense, and apologize if I offended
anyone, but to me, it is better to save a friend than to either wreck the
furniture, or not do it to their satisfaction and ruin the friendship,
especially if this is an older piece of furniture or family heirloom
Just my two cents, now going back to my chair where I watch in wonder at all
the great things I see made here and can hopefully learn about it :)
Clif
"jds" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> A friend of mine has asked me to repair a Nichols & Stone armless Windsor
> dining room chair that is one of a set of eight. The back has two
outside
> support spindles with a mortised and tenoned top curved rail. One of the
> support spindles broke completely off in the hole in the seat. The
spindle
> appears to have been turned on three different centers making it far too
> complicated for me to reproduce with my limited lathe skills. Any
> suggestions on how to make a repair of this spindle that will hold
together?
> I was thinking of drilling a hole through the spindle from the bottom and
> inserting a long wood screw to hold the pieces together and gluing the
> pieces together. What type of glue would give the best strength for this
> type of end grain joinery? Is this type of repair worth doing? Also due
to
> the offset (lean) of the back figuring out how to clamp this assembly up
is
> beyond my imagination -- any thoughts?
>
> Your help and thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> Dave
>
>
Wasn't it Will Rogers that commented about a "friend" down the street
that was mad at him "I don't know why, I've never done anything for
him"?
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 14:57:23 GMT, "Clif" <[email protected]> wrote:
>That being said. If you are going to repair something for a friend, just be
>careful. Some friends are very appreciative of this ( I do computer work a
>lot for friends ) but sometimes, if it is beyond your skill level, or beyond
>repair, its best to turn them to someone who does this for a living all the
>time. I am not sure if that makes sense, and apologize if I offended
>anyone, but to me, it is better to save a friend than to either wreck the
>furniture, or not do it to their satisfaction and ruin the friendship,
>especially if this is an older piece of furniture or family heirloom