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"TheNewGuy"

13/06/2005 5:08 PM

My 1st go at Neander face jointing

Hey all,

Well, dang, it wasn't that difficult, really. But then, it was just a
piece of scrap I thought I'd try it out on - no "pressure."

A little background. Over the past several months I went through the
internal debate of which to save for and acquire 1st : "power jointer
v. power planer/thicknesser." Got feedback here, with
opinions/reasonings on both sides of course, but I ended up purchasing
a power planer/thicknesser (15" General Int'l).

My thinking was, edge jointing can be done various ways - router, TS,
jointer plane; the 1st two I already owned, the 3rd I acquired when
Steve Knight had his 50%-off sale recently (ash w/ walnut D handle).
So, edge jointing I had "covered."

As far as face jointing prior to sticking the wood in the planer, well,
I came back here for more discussion. Some people sweat the flatness
of the reference face more than others, when it comes to deciding
whether a board is "ready" to be fed into the planer/thicknesser. Some
would only wager a board that is purely cupped can be successfully (or
safely) thicknessed as-is - success including ending up w/ the two
faces co-planar. Others point to various sled/shim arrangements that
will hold nearly any twisted/bowed board steady and allow one to
essentially turn your thicknesser into a jointer.

Still another approach for the evil twisted board (besides kindling),
is to use a handplane to knock down the high spots on one side and get
it "good enough" to use as the reference face for the thicknesser.

And so, I decided to have a go at it this way. It wasn't much - a 3/4"
poplar board (originally an S3 from the BORG) 20" by 4", but when you
pressed down on one corner, the opposite shot up 3/16" - a quite
noticeable teeter-totter.

With a bench hook on my TS top, a shim for the poplar, and the Knight
jointer plane, I had at it. Focussed my energies at the two
"quadrants" of one of the faces; no marking guage, just several swipes
and then I'd flip it over to test it on the TS top. A few rounds of
that got me pretty darn close; had a bit of convexity to this face, so
swiped the middle section a few times, and then one more set of full
length passes, and it was "rock free!" Definitely a face suitable to
lay on the bed of the thicknesser.

Now, after face jointing, but before thicknessing, the minimal
thickness of the board is sitting at 5/8". ... if you think about the
3/16" of original rocking, half that is 3/32" (the teeter-totter is
balanced) - I took off just a 32nd more than needed on my 1st try
(given the twist was symmetrical, blah, blah, blah). Hmph. Not bad.
I should be able to end up w/ a 9/16" board after thicknessing.

So, if you're still wrestling w/ the "jointer v. planer" debate
yourself, here's some feedback on one way it can be done. Even by The
New Guy :)

-Chris


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"tom"

in reply to "TheNewGuy" on 13/06/2005 5:08 PM

13/06/2005 7:00 PM

Chris wrote: snip>So, if you're still wrestling w/ the "jointer v.
planer" debate
yourself, here's some feedback on one way it can be done.<snip
Nice goin'! There's
more than one way to skin a cat. I've got 3 cats. Tom

Mh

"Mike"

in reply to "TheNewGuy" on 13/06/2005 5:08 PM

14/06/2005 10:25 AM



tom wrote:
> Chris wrote: snip>So, if you're still wrestling w/ the "jointer v.
> planer" debate
> yourself, here's some feedback on one way it can be done.<snip
> Nice goin'!
>There's more than one way to skin a cat. I've got 3 cats.

Do they get cold in the winter?

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"TheNewGuy"

in reply to "TheNewGuy" on 13/06/2005 5:08 PM

15/06/2005 9:18 AM


toller wrote:
> I know I can't plane a board properly
> with a handplane,

Yeah, I'm with you on that. I'm amazed by the folks who can go through
the whole progression of planes on a roughsawn board and end up with it
flat, smooth, and true! I'm just glad to find a method that works for
me w/o having to buy a powered jointer.

-Chris

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"toller"

in reply to "TheNewGuy" on 13/06/2005 5:08 PM

14/06/2005 5:47 PM

You know, I hadn't thought of that. I know I can't plane a board properly
with a handplane, but I could use it simply to knock down some high spots
and then run it through the planer.


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