From research, they're pretty much everywhere again after the falsified
data resulted in the ban on DDT. But the little bastids is here. In my
house.
Looks like the cost of treatment and replacing one bed set, and sealing
two more is going to run between $1500 and $2000.
The exterminator guy (Orkin) who came to for the inspection today said
that 90% of his work here in Saskatoon is bedbugs.
I want my,
I want my,
I want my DDT...
Bedbugs don't spread disease, and aren't present as a result of
filth... They just eat us.
Han <[email protected]> wrote in news:Xns9CF941C3E8AB5ikkezelf@
216.151.153.168:
>
> I'm all in favor of irradiation of inanimate objects to sterilize them
> and get rid of the bugs. However, I'm not sure I could wrap my brain
> around something sitting in my bedroom irradiating my sheets and
> mattress. Shielding would be a problem. My home isn't uilt for tons of
> lead in the upstairs bedroom <that was sarcasm, for the impaired minds>
>
Wouldn't good 'ol heat do the job? Based on what I've seen the "experts"
talk about on TV, it looks like 150-170F is warm enough to kill most bugs
and bacteria. That might be above the melting point of some plastics,
though.
Puckdropper
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 07 Jan 2010 12:06:30 GMT, the infamous Puckdropper
> <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> scrawled the following:
>
>>Wouldn't good 'ol heat do the job? Based on what I've seen the
>>"experts" talk about on TV, it looks like 150-170F is warm enough to
>>kill most bugs and bacteria. That might be above the melting point of
>>some plastics, though.
>
> Somehow, I don't think the average, run-of-the-mill electric blanket
> is going to handle this particular job, Pucky.
>
Hm... perhaps we need a grounded metal mesh blanket with insulated
heating coils. Then we could hook the blanket to 220V (In 220V
locations, use 440V) and simply cook all the bed bugs away. Since the
mesh is grounded, there's no chance of static electric discharge that
could ignite the dust from millions of fleeing bed bugs. ;-)
I didn't realize the bed bugs move all over. I thought it'd be a simple
case of enclosing the mattress or bed in a tent and cooking them away.
Live and learn.
Puckdropper
In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
> Do they allow DDT in Canuckistan, Dave? Cool! They used to here,
> too, until Rachel Carson, that knowledgeless bitch, wrote her book.
No, the lying bitch screwed things up here too.
In article <[email protected]>, Phisherman
<[email protected]> wrote:
> The DDT does some harm to the eagle eggs, or something like that.
Nope. That was totally disproved by followup studies after Carson faked
her data and made everybody think the sky was falling.
In article <[email protected]>, Puckdropper
wrote:
> Wouldn't good 'ol heat do the job? Based on what I've seen the "experts"
> talk about on TV, it looks like 150-170F is warm enough to kill most bugs
> and bacteria. That might be above the melting point of some plastics,
> though.
From my research, 120F may do the trick, and is used in some cases.
It's seriously impractical in an 1100 sq. ft bungalow in a Saskatchewan
winter, however.
In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 07:09:15 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
> <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> scrawled the following:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>, Puckdropper
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Wouldn't good 'ol heat do the job? Based on what I've seen the "experts"
> >> talk about on TV, it looks like 150-170F is warm enough to kill most bugs
> >> and bacteria. That might be above the melting point of some plastics,
> >> though.
> >
> >From my research, 120F may do the trick, and is used in some cases.
> >It's seriously impractical in an 1100 sq. ft bungalow in a Saskatchewan
> >winter, however.
>
> Remember that whatever method you use, use it globally in the house.
> Bedbugs run from room to room to escape other methods. I read about
> that on the Internet and have never seen the li'l bastids, meself. I
> soitenly hope I never do, either!
Yep, whole house. Residual pesticide along the baseboards, repeated in
two weeks to catch hatchlings.
In article <[email protected]>, J. Clarke
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Denis G. wrote:
> > On Jan 5, 6:31 pm, Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>
> > wrote:
> >> From research, they're pretty much everywhere again after the
> >> falsified data resulted in the ban on DDT. But the little bastids is
> >> here. In my house.
> >>
> >> Looks like the cost of treatment and replacing one bed set, and
> >> sealing two more is going to run between $1500 and $2000.
> >>
> >> The exterminator guy (Orkin) who came to for the inspection today
> >> said that 90% of his work here in Saskatoon is bedbugs.
> >>
> >> I want my,
> >>
> >> I want my,
> >>
> >> I want my DDT...
> >>
> >> Bedbugs don't spread disease, and aren't present as a result of
> >> filth... They just eat us.
> >
> > Not that it helps you, but irradiation would have been another
> > (politically incorrect) solution:
> > http://uw-food-irradiation.engr.wisc.edu/Facts.html
>
> Balderdash should just get some effing DDT. It's not banned for bedbugs.
It is totally banned in Canada. No allowed use or sale.
<http://www.ec.gc.ca/nopp/docs/consult/toxicReg/ddt/en/fact.cfm>
"Pest Control Products Acts - In Canada, pesticides are regulated under
the Pest Control Products Act and Regulations. Registration of all uses
of DDT were suspended in 1985 with the understanding that existing
stock would be sold, used or disposed of by the next registration date
of December 31, 1990. Since this date, the sale or use of DDT in Canada
has represented a violation of the Pest Control Products Act."
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 07:09:15 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> scrawled the following:
>In article <[email protected]>, Puckdropper
>wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't good 'ol heat do the job? Based on what I've seen the "experts"
>> talk about on TV, it looks like 150-170F is warm enough to kill most bugs
>> and bacteria. That might be above the melting point of some plastics,
>> though.
>
>From my research, 120F may do the trick, and is used in some cases.
>It's seriously impractical in an 1100 sq. ft bungalow in a Saskatchewan
>winter, however.
Remember that whatever method you use, use it globally in the house.
Bedbugs run from room to room to escape other methods. I read about
that on the Internet and have never seen the li'l bastids, meself. I
soitenly hope I never do, either!
--
We rightly care about the environment. But our neurotic obsession
with carbon betrays an inability to distinguish between pollution
and the stuff of life itself. --Bret Stephens, WSJ 1/5/10
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:31:23 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> scrawled the following:
>From research, they're pretty much everywhere again after the falsified
>data resulted in the ban on DDT. But the little bastids is here. In my
>house.
>
>Looks like the cost of treatment and replacing one bed set, and sealing
>two more is going to run between $1500 and $2000.
>
>The exterminator guy (Orkin) who came to for the inspection today said
>that 90% of his work here in Saskatoon is bedbugs.
>
>I want my,
>
>I want my,
>
>I want my DDT...
>
>Bedbugs don't spread disease, and aren't present as a result of
>filth... They just eat us.
Do they allow DDT in Canuckistan, Dave? Cool! They used to here,
too, until Rachel Carson, that knowledgeless bitch, wrote her book.
--
We rightly care about the environment. But our neurotic obsession
with carbon betrays an inability to distinguish between pollution
and the stuff of life itself. --Bret Stephens, WSJ 1/5/10
On 07 Jan 2010 12:06:30 GMT, the infamous Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> scrawled the following:
>Han <[email protected]> wrote in news:Xns9CF941C3E8AB5ikkezelf@
>216.151.153.168:
>
>>
>> I'm all in favor of irradiation of inanimate objects to sterilize them
>> and get rid of the bugs. However, I'm not sure I could wrap my brain
>> around something sitting in my bedroom irradiating my sheets and
>> mattress. Shielding would be a problem. My home isn't uilt for tons of
>> lead in the upstairs bedroom <that was sarcasm, for the impaired minds>
>>
>
>Wouldn't good 'ol heat do the job? Based on what I've seen the "experts"
>talk about on TV, it looks like 150-170F is warm enough to kill most bugs
>and bacteria. That might be above the melting point of some plastics,
>though.
Somehow, I don't think the average, run-of-the-mill electric blanket
is going to handle this particular job, Pucky.
--
We rightly care about the environment. But our neurotic obsession
with carbon betrays an inability to distinguish between pollution
and the stuff of life itself. --Bret Stephens, WSJ 1/5/10
Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Phisherman
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The DDT does some harm to the eagle eggs, or something like that.
>
> Nope. That was totally disproved by followup studies after Carson
> faked her data and made everybody think the sky was falling.
Meanwhile, millions, literally millions, died from Malaria.
Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> It turned out that the peregrine falcon eggs had been getting thinner
> and thinner for 75 years BEFORE the use of DDT, but her shitstirring
> managed to get it banned worldwide, causing hundreds of millions of
> malaria deaths since then. I hope she was satisfied with herself
> before she died. That's a _heavy_ karma debt, mon.
But it's for the birds...
In article <050120101831232038%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>,
Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>From research, they're pretty much everywhere again after the falsified
>data resulted in the ban on DDT. But the little bastids is here. In my
>house.
This is a subject I've got more knowledge about than I really care to have.
(from volunteering at emergency housing.)
>Looks like the cost of treatment and replacing one bed set, and sealing
>two more is going to run between $1500 and $2000.
*RIDICULOUS* Reasonable seal-covers run _maybe_ $100 for a full-size
mattress or box spring. (see <http://www.usbedbugs.com> for some good, but
somewhat high-priced ones.) You can seal a bed set to keep the critters out,
_or_ seal it to keep them in, til their dead. No need to replace anything.
Treatment _is_ something you can do yourself. But, be aware, it does take
some time for things to take effect -- _that_ doesn't change, whether you or
a pro apply the stuff.
The effective active ingredient in beg-bug treatments is pyrethrin
(better than DDT for this kind of critter, actually)
For pros, the premiere brand name product is "Kicker". "ExciteR" is an
equivalent at a significantly better 'generic' price. (circa $55 for a pint
of concentrate, which makes around 8 _gallons_ of DIY-strength spray)
In the 'home' products, there's a product called "Kills Bedbugs" (J.T. Eaton)
that is *the* stuff to use. (Circa $16 for a quart trigger-spray bottle)
Kicker/ExciteR are available as concentrates, that have to be diluted before
use. For 'amateur' use, the directions state that you must dilute to below a
specific strength; pro's can use it at stronger strengths.
"Kills Bedbugs" you can probably find in a local hardware store. Kicker
or ExciteR may have to be ordered. (easily found on the web/mail-order)
For 'do it yourself' treatment, the big thing is to make fairly _frequent_
treatments (circa 2x week to start) for the initial period. One _will_
notice a significant improvement by about the 2nd treatment. (The stuff
is effective for extended periods, but the 'potency' declines, thus the
advantage of the frequent initial application.
You can get everything you need for a whole series of DIY house treatments
for around $100. (circa $60 for concentrate, $30 for a sprayer, $10 for
gloves.)
The other part of evicting these unwanted guests is to launder _all_ the
bed linens and nightclothes in _hot_ water. That will take care of any
eggs _there_.
Keeping the bedding in those 'vacuum' bags isn't a bad idea, especially
if they go into the bag directly out of the dryer (or off the clothesline).
"Denis G." <[email protected]> wrote in
news:e843fd5d-2894-49f7-8181-2002f96f6db4@a15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
> On Jan 5, 6:31 pm, Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>
> wrote:
>> From research, they're pretty much everywhere again after the
>> falsified data resulted in the ban on DDT. But the little bastids is
>> here. In my house.
>>
>> Looks like the cost of treatment and replacing one bed set, and
>> sealing two more is going to run between $1500 and $2000.
>>
>> The exterminator guy (Orkin) who came to for the inspection today
>> said that 90% of his work here in Saskatoon is bedbugs.
>>
>> I want my,
>>
>> I want my,
>>
>> I want my DDT...
>>
>> Bedbugs don't spread disease, and aren't present as a result of
>> filth... They just eat us.
>
> Not that it helps you, but irradiation would have been another
> (politically incorrect) solution:
> http://uw-food-irradiation.engr.wisc.edu/Facts.html
I'm all in favor of irradiation of inanimate objects to sterilize them
and get rid of the bugs. However, I'm not sure I could wrap my brain
around something sitting in my bedroom irradiating my sheets and
mattress. Shielding would be a problem. My home isn't uilt for tons of
lead in the upstairs bedroom <that was sarcasm, for the impaired minds>
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
"Phisherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> For the most part you need a professional that has access to the chemical
> needed, the same ingrediant used in flea collars.
I want to say Termindor which is also the most widely used (and effective)
termiticide in several countries.
--
Dave in Houston
flickr :: HaveNikon_WillTravel
http://www.pbase.com/speedracer
HeyBub wrote:
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, Phisherman
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The DDT does some harm to the eagle eggs, or something like that.
>>
>> Nope. That was totally disproved by followup studies after Carson
>> faked her data and made everybody think the sky was falling.
>
> Meanwhile, millions, literally millions, died from Malaria.
... and continue to die from malaria due to this policy. But that's OK,
it's in third world countries. (Yes, that last sentence was extreme
sarcasm)
--
There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage
Rob Leatham
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:10:46 -0600, the infamous LdB <[email protected]>
scrawled the following:
>On 1/5/2010 6:31 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
>> From research, they're pretty much everywhere again after the falsified
>> data resulted in the ban on DDT. But the little bastids is here. In my
>> house.
>>
>
>They (the little bastids), are you referring to the bedbugs or the
>looney fringe?
We've _always_ know about the latter there. <heh heh heh>
--
We rightly care about the environment. But our neurotic obsession
with carbon betrays an inability to distinguish between pollution
and the stuff of life itself. --Bret Stephens, WSJ 1/5/10
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 13:22:56 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> scrawled the following:
>In article <[email protected]>, Phisherman
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The DDT does some harm to the eagle eggs, or something like that.
>
>Nope. That was totally disproved by followup studies after Carson faked
>her data and made everybody think the sky was falling.
It turned out that the peregrine falcon eggs had been getting thinner
and thinner for 75 years BEFORE the use of DDT, but her shitstirring
managed to get it banned worldwide, causing hundreds of millions of
malaria deaths since then. I hope she was satisfied with herself
before she died. That's a _heavy_ karma debt, mon.
--
We rightly care about the environment. But our neurotic obsession
with carbon betrays an inability to distinguish between pollution
and the stuff of life itself. --Bret Stephens, WSJ 1/5/10
On Jan 5, 6:31=A0pm, Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>
wrote:
> From research, they're pretty much everywhere again after the falsified
> data resulted in the ban on DDT. But the little bastids is here. In my
> house.
>
> Looks like the cost of treatment and replacing one bed set, and sealing
> two more is going to run between $1500 and $2000.
>
> The exterminator guy (Orkin) who came to for the inspection today said
> that 90% of his work here in Saskatoon is bedbugs.
>
> I want my,
>
> I want my,
>
> I want my DDT...
>
> Bedbugs don't spread disease, and aren't present as a result of
> filth... They just eat us.
Not that it helps you, but irradiation would have been another
(politically incorrect) solution: http://uw-food-irradiation.engr.wisc.edu=
/Facts.html
Denis G. wrote:
> On Jan 5, 6:31 pm, Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>
> wrote:
>> From research, they're pretty much everywhere again after the
>> falsified data resulted in the ban on DDT. But the little bastids is
>> here. In my house.
>>
>> Looks like the cost of treatment and replacing one bed set, and
>> sealing two more is going to run between $1500 and $2000.
>>
>> The exterminator guy (Orkin) who came to for the inspection today
>> said that 90% of his work here in Saskatoon is bedbugs.
>>
>> I want my,
>>
>> I want my,
>>
>> I want my DDT...
>>
>> Bedbugs don't spread disease, and aren't present as a result of
>> filth... They just eat us.
>
> Not that it helps you, but irradiation would have been another
> (politically incorrect) solution:
> http://uw-food-irradiation.engr.wisc.edu/Facts.html
Balderdash should just get some effing DDT. It's not banned for bedbugs.
"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, Phisherman
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The DDT does some harm to the eagle eggs, or something like that.
>>
>> Nope. That was totally disproved by followup studies after Carson
>> faked her data and made everybody think the sky was falling.
>
> Meanwhile, millions, literally millions, died from Malaria.
>
According to the envirowakos, it's preferable that people die rather than
possibly hurt the environment. Some of them even propose that biological
agents be used to kill off half the planets population "for the good of the
planet". Not them, of course. Other people.
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:31:23 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>From research, they're pretty much everywhere again after the falsified
>data resulted in the ban on DDT. But the little bastids is here. In my
>house.
>
>Looks like the cost of treatment and replacing one bed set, and sealing
>two more is going to run between $1500 and $2000.
>
>The exterminator guy (Orkin) who came to for the inspection today said
>that 90% of his work here in Saskatoon is bedbugs.
>
>I want my,
>
>I want my,
>
>I want my DDT...
>
>Bedbugs don't spread disease, and aren't present as a result of
>filth... They just eat us.
The DDT does some harm to the eagle eggs, or something like that. For
the most part you need a professional that has access to the chemical
needed, the same ingrediant used in flea collers. Bedbugs can live
for months without any food. You'll see their bloody poop dots on a
white bed sheet.
Now I lay me down to sleep
While all around me bedbugs creep
If they bite before I wake
I pray to God their jaws will break