I need to repair a cracked leg in a finished piece of furniture
(chair). I plan on gluing it and even ordered a glue injector and
titebond 'dark' wood glue from Rockler to do the job. But I also
wanted to reinforce it with a trim screw or two but the shortest I can
find is 1 5/8" long. Is that the smallest size available?
If so why would they be so long? I've only ever used trim screws to
screw cabinet face frames together and screw some squeaky treads to
the risers (didn't work). However if I were to use them to attach a
piece of 'trim' I sure wouldn't need one 1 5/8" long.
What do you guys use them for besides holding pieces together until
the glue dries?
On 9/7/2009 5:43 PM Limp Arbor spake thus:
> I need to repair a cracked leg in a finished piece of furniture
> (chair). I plan on gluing it and even ordered a glue injector and
> titebond 'dark' wood glue from Rockler to do the job. But I also
> wanted to reinforce it with a trim screw or two but the shortest I can
> find is 1 5/8" long. Is that the smallest size available?
>
> If so why would they be so long? I've only ever used trim screws to
> screw cabinet face frames together and screw some squeaky treads to
> the risers (didn't work). However if I were to use them to attach a
> piece of 'trim' I sure wouldn't need one 1 5/8" long.
Do you mean a "trim head screw", like this?
http://www.mcfeelys.com/product/0715-HTB/Brown-7-x-1-58quot-HeadCote-Stainless-Steel-Trim-Head-Screws
When I read your post I didn't know what a "trim screw" was; never heard
that term before.
Why not just use a small wood screw? You're wanting a small head, I take
it. Maybe counterbored bigger screws and wood plugs are the way to go.
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On 9/7/2009 7:39 PM Matt spake thus:
> I rarely use screws to hold things together while glue dries, If I want just
> glue, I use clamps with padding as needed.
> Like almost everyone, when repairing furniture I try for as invisible a
> repair as possible
>
> If a conventional C-clamp doesn't seem to be appropriate because the shape
> is too irregular, then maybe a cord clamp or surgical hose, or a hose clamp
> padded inside with 1/4" thick rubber.
One of the most useful tools I have is my collection of old cut-up
bicycle inner tubes. They can exert tremendous clamping force simply by
wrapping them around the glue-up. Holds odd-shaped pieces too.
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On Sep 7, 5:43=A0pm, Limp Arbor <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need to repair a cracked leg in a finished piece of furniture
> ... I also
> wanted to reinforce it with a trim screw or two
If it's really a crack, you're gluing into end grain? Or is it
a split, gluing long grain? Cracks are a hard problem,
splits are less hard, BUT a split might have found a
sap element, glue can easily fail there.
Instead of pinning the joint with metal fasteners, consider
careful boring and fitting of dowels; a glued dowel
across the grain makes a tough reinforcing element.
In article <[email protected]>, Limp Arbor <[email protected]> wrote:
>I need to repair a cracked leg in a finished piece of furniture
>(chair). I plan on gluing it and even ordered a glue injector and
>titebond 'dark' wood glue from Rockler to do the job. But I also
>wanted to reinforce it with a trim screw or two but the shortest I can
>find is 1 5/8" long. Is that the smallest size available?
AFAIK, yes.
>
>If so why would they be so long? I've only ever used trim screws to
>screw cabinet face frames together and screw some squeaky treads to
>the risers (didn't work). However if I were to use them to attach a
>piece of 'trim' I sure wouldn't need one 1 5/8" long.
Sure you would. The screw passes through 1/2" thick trim, then 1/2" thick
drywall, leaving 5/8" of threads in the framing.
>
>What do you guys use them for besides holding pieces together until
>the glue dries?
I use brads for that...
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 17:43:00 -0700 (PDT), Limp Arbor
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I need to repair a cracked leg in a finished piece of furniture
>(chair). I plan on gluing it and even ordered a glue injector and
>titebond 'dark' wood glue from Rockler to do the job. But I also
>wanted to reinforce it with a trim screw or two but the shortest I can
>find is 1 5/8" long. Is that the smallest size available?
>
>If so why would they be so long? I've only ever used trim screws to
>screw cabinet face frames together and screw some squeaky treads to
>the risers (didn't work). However if I were to use them to attach a
>piece of 'trim' I sure wouldn't need one 1 5/8" long.
>
>What do you guys use them for besides holding pieces together until
>the glue dries?
I use all sizes. Recently I installed trim and used 2" finish nails
in a pnumatic nailer. When I got to the wall that encases a pocket
door, I used 1-1/4". Angle the shot slightly downward.
Sometimes I like the nail gun for furniture repair. Unlike a screw or
common finish nail it rarely splits the wood
I rarely use screws to hold things together while glue dries, If I want just
glue, I use clamps with padding as needed.
Like almost everyone, when repairing furniture I try for as invisible a
repair as possible
If a conventional C-clamp doesn't seem to be appropriate because the shape
is too irregular, then maybe a cord clamp or surgical hose, or a hose clamp
padded inside with 1/4" thick rubber.
Be sure to wipe the excess glue off after you compress the joint, but you do
want to leave enough glue in the joint and not squeeze it all out.
Depending on the glue you use and the item being glued, you might even coat
the area you do not want glue on with a wax release (like Waxlit)
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>I need to repair a cracked leg in a finished piece of furniture
> (chair). I plan on gluing it and even ordered a glue injector and
> titebond 'dark' wood glue from Rockler to do the job. But I also
> wanted to reinforce it with a trim screw or two but the shortest I can
> find is 1 5/8" long. Is that the smallest size available?
>
> If so why would they be so long? I've only ever used trim screws to
> screw cabinet face frames together and screw some squeaky treads to
> the risers (didn't work). However if I were to use them to attach a
> piece of 'trim' I sure wouldn't need one 1 5/8" long.
>
> What do you guys use them for besides holding pieces together until
> the glue dries?