I have read on some posts on how hard it's getting to find some.
I read on another post that Lowes sells it still. I found it at Amazon
for $20.16/3pk. also SC Johnson's website is selling it for $33.06/6pk.
Just wanted to pass this info along. A 6 pack my be excessive but I
figure i'll have some to pass on to my grandchildren years down the
road. The links are below.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0006OJZKQ/qid=1103214113/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl60/104-4814955-7439142?v=glance&s=hi&n=507846
http://www.scjbrands.com/mailorder/
Rick
RampRat wrote:
> I have read on some posts on how hard it's getting to find some.
> I read on another post that Lowes sells it still. I found it at
Amazon
> for $20.16/3pk. also SC Johnson's website is selling it for
$33.06/6pk.
> Just wanted to pass this info along. A 6 pack my be excessive but I
> figure i'll have some to pass on to my grandchildren years down the
> road. The links are below.
>
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0006OJZKQ/qid=1103214113/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl60/104-4814955-7439142?v=glance&s=hi&n=507846
> http://www.scjbrands.com/mailorder/
>
>
> Rick
Points not yet mentioned:
In a time long, long ago, Johnson's paste wax was advertised for
floors. Today, and for decades, you will have seen advertisements for
floors that never need waxing. Wonder why there isn't a market for the
wax.
There's no magic in Johnson's wax. Nothing more than a mixure of
waxes, e.g. bees and carnuba in paint thinner. FWW has published
formulas.
Just my two cents.
ray
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 16:12:24 GMT, [email protected] (Lawrence
Wasserman) wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Doug Miller wrote:
>>
>>>>According to Johnson's it because UPS doesn't come to Canada and that the
>>>>only way they ship.
>>>
>>> Interesting. Heck, I'll ship it USPS Parcel Post to any Canadian that
>>> wants it. For the right price, of course... :-)
>>
>>Me too, for 10% off Doug's right price. :)
>>
>>Or for the people who want value added service, and they're willing to pay a
>>little extra for the best possible care, I'll also do it for 20% more than
>>Doug's right price. Take your pick.
>>
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>
>Man, as soon as I can take a picture of a can I'm puting some on ebay!
I've heard you can get it as low as $4 or less a can wholesale.
Ebay was on of the first place I checked on the net.
I'd be interested in seeing a delivered price to Canada.:)
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> I actually have a can of Johnsons that I took out of my grandfathers shop.
> The can appears to be built to survive the cold war and must be about 50
> years old.
>
Johnson's can be found, if only at their website. But I was still able
to buy Trewax at a grocery store last time I needed some. I think it
works better, but even if not it's "as good as" and easier to find.
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J T wrote:
> Thu, Dec 16, 2004, 8:36am (EST-3) [email protected] (RampRat)
> <snip> A 6 pack my be excessive <snip>
>
> MAY be excessive? I've got a can I bought years back, in my local
> grocery (that still carries it, as far as I know), plus a full can I
> bought at a flea market for $1. I'm pretty generous with it when I use
> it, but the first can isn't even half gone. Get some buddies to chip i
I've gone through about four cans in the last two years. I'm almost out
again. I use that stuff on everything, and use it often.
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Doug Miller wrote:
>>According to Johnson's it because UPS doesn't come to Canada and that the
>>only way they ship.
>
> Interesting. Heck, I'll ship it USPS Parcel Post to any Canadian that
> wants it. For the right price, of course... :-)
Me too, for 10% off Doug's right price. :)
Or for the people who want value added service, and they're willing to pay a
little extra for the best possible care, I'll also do it for 20% more than
Doug's right price. Take your pick.
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Dave W wrote:
> I did't know it is hard to find. I get it at the local Ace Harware store.
I think a lot of this started when I noticed I couldn't get it at Wally
World anymore, then some Kanukistani convinced me that SC Johnson had
decided to discontinue the stuff. I went on a holy quest to find a new
supply of my favorite wax, and posted the results. That's what some of the
comments in this current thread have alluded to.
So it's all Silvan's fault again.
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Mark & Juanita wrote:
> So you're the one I have to blame for the box with the lifetime supply
> of
> Johnson's wax sitting in my closet. I ordered it right after reading the
> thread on here over a year ago (maybe two Christmas's ago?) about how it
> would no longer be available. ;-)
No, not exactly. I never said it was being discontinued. I just went to
some length to let people know where they could still get it while
believing what someone else had warned me about.
How many surplus cans do you have? I'll buy some off of you as a favor, if
you want. If you're not worried about it, I'll just go buy a can at
Lowe's. :)
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mac davis wrote:
>>I've gone through about four cans in the last two years. I'm almost out
>>again. I use that stuff on everything, and use it often.
>
> wow.. must use it on your hair, too!! *g*
I have a bunch of chisels, lathe tools, cast iron machinery, hand planes,
vises, anvils, sundry other steel or iron tools, all in an unheated shop.
I've never bothered to mail order Boeshield or any of the other fancy
alternatives. I just keep Johnson's on everything, and reapply as needed.
For some stuff, maybe twice a year. For other stuff, maybe once a week.
It's good on the soles of my planes and my saw table for making everything
slide smoothly, as well as affording a measure of rust protection.
Then I also use it on everything I build. I used to use 0000 steel wool and
wax over poly to kill the poly-ness, and then I saw the light and started
using shellac. Now I use 0000 steel wool and wax over shellac to kill the
shellac-ness. Shellac leaves a bit of a weird surface. The ol' wax and
wool puts a perfect finishing touch on it, and affords it some miniscule
measure of moisture and wear protection.
Just now, I even used it on all the furniture in my living room. It's
commercial furniture, and I had never really cared enough to try that
before, but the results sure were good. I think I will probably do that
from now on, instead of using Pledge. Takes a bit of doing, but it looks
fantastic.
It's also useful for driving tiny brass screws into hardwoods. It works
better than beeswax. Yet another use, I wax up my trumpets from time to
time. They both have worn spots in the lacquer, and the wax helps keep
those spots from tarnishing and standing out.
So yeah, I go through a lot of Johnson's, and a lot of 00000 steel wool too.
All without using it on my hair. I keep my hair cut at 5/8" and run the
buzzy thing through it as soon as it's starting to look like I should
reacquaint myself with a comb.
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Lawrence Wasserman wrote:
> Man, as soon as I can take a picture of a can I'm puting some on ebay!
BANNED IN CANADA! We only have ONE CAN LEFT! First bid $149.95, reserve
not yet met.
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mac davis wrote:
> I don't have that problem... my wife calls my haircut a "no hawk"..
>
> the basic theory is that God made some really good looking heads...
> but covered up the ones that didn't turn out too well with hair.. *g*
Mine must be getting better looking every day then. Though I figured it was
just because my brain has been expanding and pushing my forehead up as I
have acquired more woodworking knowledge.
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mac davis wrote:
> it might be from all that leaning into the grinding wheel.. maybe you
> need a spacer like I have.. my stomach has become a curb finder.. lol
A curb finder. Now there's an image. :)
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I've lost track of who it was with the stash of 12 cans.
I just thought he'd find it funny that I moved some stuff off a shelf today,
and found three cans I had forgotten about. I stocked up too. :)
Time to rotate. I'll move my old finish can to machine duty, and use the
new one for finishing.
Found a few tiny hints of rust on my TS table today, even though I just
waxed it a few days ago. Not good. Boo hiss. Waxed the hell out of it
again. I can't see my face in it, but if I get at just the right angle, I
can see reflections of everything that's behind it with perfect clarity. I
hope to keep it that way. Shiny good. Rusty bad. Rusty saw table makes
Silvan a saaaaaaaaaad Silvan.
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:34:27 -0500, Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:
> Doug Miller wrote:
>
>>>According to Johnson's it because UPS doesn't come to Canada and that the
>>>only way they ship.
>>
>> Interesting. Heck, I'll ship it USPS Parcel Post to any Canadian that
>> wants it. For the right price, of course... :-)
>
> Me too, for 10% off Doug's right price. :)
Hah. I'll do it for _15_ percent more than Doug's price. So there.
Australopithecus scobis wrote:
> wax is free of silicone oil. I'd bet that they all have it. (Northern
> Labs' (makers of Kit) response pointed out that they make Goddard's
> Cabinet Makers Paste Wax, US$9.99/4.5oz tin, if anyone is interested.)
Oh, and on that whole discontinued wax thread from a bit ago, now that I'm
Mr. Mom, and have done some, yerk, shopping, hork, I can report that
Wal-Mart does have this stuff on the chemicals isle in high quanties.
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Larry Jaques wrote:
> Is it still $4.72 a tin? That's where I got mine and what I paid a few
> years ago.
Somewhere in that ballpark probably. I didn't really note the price on
anything. I just threw it in the buggy. That's why I went $37 over
budget. Oops. Oh well, she doesn't need her cash allowance this week
anyway.
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MikeG wrote:
> I've been reading posts about Johnson's paste wax being discontinued for
> three years now. Evidently no one at Lowe's has seen them yet.
I thought that it was discontinued in the GWN but still on sale
down here.
Dave in Fairfax
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Thu, Dec 16, 2004, 8:36am (EST-3) [email protected] (RampRat)
<snip> A 6 pack my be excessive <snip>
MAY be excessive? I've got a can I bought years back, in my local
grocery (that still carries it, as far as I know), plus a full can I
bought at a flea market for $1. I'm pretty generous with it when I use
it, but the first can isn't even half gone. Get some buddies to chip in
with you, get the 6 pack, and just get 1-2 cans each. Or, just buy the
6 pack, then SELL some to your buddies. Higher price to your enemies.
LOL
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 04:49:09 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>mac davis wrote:
>
>>>I've gone through about four cans in the last two years. I'm almost out
>>>again. I use that stuff on everything, and use it often.
>>
>> wow.. must use it on your hair, too!! *g*
>
>I have a bunch of chisels, lathe tools, cast iron machinery, hand planes,
>vises, anvils, sundry other steel or iron tools, all in an unheated shop.
>I've never bothered to mail order Boeshield or any of the other fancy
>alternatives. I just keep Johnson's on everything, and reapply as needed.
>For some stuff, maybe twice a year. For other stuff, maybe once a week.
>It's good on the soles of my planes and my saw table for making everything
>slide smoothly, as well as affording a measure of rust protection.
>
>Then I also use it on everything I build. I used to use 0000 steel wool and
>wax over poly to kill the poly-ness, and then I saw the light and started
>using shellac. Now I use 0000 steel wool and wax over shellac to kill the
>shellac-ness. Shellac leaves a bit of a weird surface. The ol' wax and
>wool puts a perfect finishing touch on it, and affords it some miniscule
>measure of moisture and wear protection.
>
>Just now, I even used it on all the furniture in my living room. It's
>commercial furniture, and I had never really cared enough to try that
>before, but the results sure were good. I think I will probably do that
>from now on, instead of using Pledge. Takes a bit of doing, but it looks
>fantastic.
>
>It's also useful for driving tiny brass screws into hardwoods. It works
>better than beeswax. Yet another use, I wax up my trumpets from time to
>time. They both have worn spots in the lacquer, and the wax helps keep
>those spots from tarnishing and standing out.
>
>So yeah, I go through a lot of Johnson's, and a lot of 00000 steel wool too.
>All without using it on my hair. I keep my hair cut at 5/8" and run the
>buzzy thing through it as soon as it's starting to look like I should
>reacquaint myself with a comb.
I don't have that problem... my wife calls my haircut a "no hawk"..
the basic theory is that God made some really good looking heads...
but covered up the ones that didn't turn out too well with hair.. *g*
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 12:53:47 -0700, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:33:46 -0800, Larry Jaques
>>Jake to the rescue! I'll buy that stash from you for a whopping 12
>>cents on the dollar, sir, and I'll even pay half the shipping. I
>>like the stuff. Got my address, Mark?
>
> No, AAMOF I don't. Please follow the following steps.
>
>1. Send me your address
>2. Hold your breath
>3. Wait
>:-)
The adddress is on my website, I can't hold my breath that long
or I turn purple and pass out, and I'm very good at waiting. (Um,
I lied about that last one. I'm impatient as hell.)
> I'm perfectly happy with my JW stash, who knows, one of these days they
>really may abandon the market -- then where will the rest of you be?
In the Renaissance Wax line at Wally World, of course.
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On 16 Dec 2004 08:36:17 -0800, "RampRat" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I have read on some posts on how hard it's getting to find some.
>I read on another post that Lowes sells it still. I found it at Amazon
>for $20.16/3pk. also SC Johnson's website is selling it for $33.06/6pk.
>Just wanted to pass this info along. A 6 pack my be excessive but I
>figure i'll have some to pass on to my grandchildren years down the
>road. The links are below.
>
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0006OJZKQ/qid=1103214113/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl60/104-4814955-7439142?v=glance&s=hi&n=507846
>http://www.scjbrands.com/mailorder/
>
>
> Rick
Ah, yes, the Johnson's Paste Wax myth. Yes, you can still get it. I
believe it is no longer marketed in Canada, and that is the source of
the posts.
Of course, if they no longer sell it in Canada, no telling when and if
they will pull it from the US market as well.
In article <[email protected]>,
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:
>Doug Miller wrote:
>
>>>According to Johnson's it because UPS doesn't come to Canada and that the
>>>only way they ship.
>>
>> Interesting. Heck, I'll ship it USPS Parcel Post to any Canadian that
>> wants it. For the right price, of course... :-)
>
>Me too, for 10% off Doug's right price. :)
>
>Or for the people who want value added service, and they're willing to pay a
>little extra for the best possible care, I'll also do it for 20% more than
>Doug's right price. Take your pick.
>
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Man, as soon as I can take a picture of a can I'm puting some on ebay!
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> I have read on some posts on how hard it's getting to find some.
> I read on another post that Lowes sells it still. I found it at Amazon
> for $20.16/3pk. also SC Johnson's website is selling it for $33.06/6pk.
> Just wanted to pass this info along. A 6 pack my be excessive but I
> figure i'll have some to pass on to my grandchildren years down the
> road. The links are below.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0006OJZKQ/qid=1103214113/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl60/104-4814955-7439142?v=glance&s=hi&n=507846
> http://www.scjbrands.com/mailorder/
>
>
> Rick
>
>
I've been reading posts about Johnson's paste wax being discontinued for
three years now. Evidently no one at Lowe's has seen them yet.
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Minwax make a paste wax but I can't find out if it contains sillycones or not.
>
>
I queried Min Wax about their product a year or so ago. Their wax
doesn't contain silicon but it does contain an anti slip agent of some
kind and they said it would probably not be best used on surfaces, IE
saw table top, where you want things slippery.
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A guy I work with always says that he's not bald, he's just taller than his
hair.
"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> the basic theory is that God made some really good looking heads...
> but covered up the ones that didn't turn out too well with hair.. *g*
>
In article <[email protected]>, Gino <[email protected]> wrote:
>They won't even ship to Canada.
>US addresses only.
Anybody know whether that's due to a business decision, or to U.S. export
regulations, or Canadian import regulations?
>
>Minwax make a paste wax but I can't find out if it contains sillycones or not.
According to Minwax, their "Paste Finishing Wax" is silicone-free. I phoned
them and asked. They also sent a copy of the MSDS, and it makes no mention of
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 00:05:05 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
>> So you're the one I have to blame for the box with the lifetime supply
>> of
>> Johnson's wax sitting in my closet. I ordered it right after reading the
>> thread on here over a year ago (maybe two Christmas's ago?) about how it
>> would no longer be available. ;-)
>
>No, not exactly. I never said it was being discontinued. I just went to
>some length to let people know where they could still get it while
>believing what someone else had warned me about.
>
>How many surplus cans do you have? I'll buy some off of you as a favor, if
>you want. If you're not worried about it, I'll just go buy a can at
>Lowe's. :)
I'm not worried about it at all. Shipping would be way more than your
time and gas to get it from Lowe's. Sometimes attempted humor just doesn't
come across the computer screen as well as it should; that was just
good-natured ribbing, not a complaint.
On 16 Dec 2004 08:36:17 -0800, "RampRat" <[email protected]>
calmly ranted:
>I have read on some posts on how hard it's getting to find some.
>I read on another post that Lowes sells it still. I found it at Amazon
>for $20.16/3pk. also SC Johnson's website is selling it for $33.06/6pk.
>Just wanted to pass this info along. A 6 pack my be excessive but I
>figure i'll have some to pass on to my grandchildren years down the
>road. The links are below.
>
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0006OJZKQ/qid=1103214113/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl60/104-4814955-7439142?v=glance&s=hi&n=507846
>http://www.scjbrands.com/mailorder/
Call your local Wally World. I got my last can there for $4.68 or
some similar price, no shipping. See? Walmart DOES stock U.S. brands!
(Several hundred of them, actually, but nobody bothers to notice.)
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Larry Jaques responds:
>Call your local Wally World. I got my last can there for $4.68 or
>some similar price, no shipping. See? Walmart DOES stock U.S. brands!
>(Several hundred of them, actually, but nobody bothers to notice.)
>
Amongst the 70% of Walmart stock that is made in China, to the tune of $18
billion dollars annually?
Charlie Self
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Churchill
Charlie Self wrote:
> Amongst the 70% of Walmart stock that is made in China, to the tune of $18
> billion dollars annually?
True, but they do have a few things actually made in the USA. I bought
SWMBO a knife sharpener that fits this bill today. I was surprised.
Of course...
>> some similar price, no shipping. See? Walmart DOES stock U.S. brands!
...this may be a US brand, but it ain't an American product.
MANUFACTURED IN MEXICO BY S.C. JOHNSON & SON S.A. de C.V.
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mac davis wrote:
> I doubt if they go more than 15% domestic, as they're experts in
> marketing what will sell well.. and most domestic products are not
They are experts. Bastards. I went for batteries and a pepper mill. I
left with batteries, a pedometer, a pepper mill, a knife, and a knife
sharpener. Bastards. I know how the game is played from the other side,
but it still works.
Junky old fashioned hardware stores with boxes upon boxes of things
scattered around in random disarray are easier to shop at. You ask the guy
where the left threaded blurfls are, and he shows you. You don't walk out
with a blurfl sharpener, a right handed blurfl and three pounds of blurfl
polish.
Which is why junky old fashioned hardware stores are getting outcompeted by
the BORGs.
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mac davis wrote:
> The bottom line is that I'm self employed and I feel his pain.. I try
> to throw a little business his way BECAUSE he's a dying breed and I
> hope to slow the process a bit..
Yeah, me too. That's why I buy overpriced lumber there.
It would help make it easier to buy more usual hardware/tool/general purpose
items if he weren't on the far side of a bout 15,000 (more like 15)
stoplights, whereas Lowe's is only two stoplights away.
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 11:30:24 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>mac davis wrote:
>
>> The bottom line is that I'm self employed and I feel his pain.. I try
>> to throw a little business his way BECAUSE he's a dying breed and I
>> hope to slow the process a bit..
>
>Yeah, me too. That's why I buy overpriced lumber there.
>
>It would help make it easier to buy more usual hardware/tool/general purpose
>items if he weren't on the far side of a bout 15,000 (more like 15)
>stoplights, whereas Lowe's is only two stoplights away.
In my case, he was across the street from my office... hard to
ignore..
On 17 Dec 2004 10:39:57 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:
>Larry Jaques responds:
>
>>Call your local Wally World. I got my last can there for $4.68 or
>>some similar price, no shipping. See? Walmart DOES stock U.S. brands!
>>(Several hundred of them, actually, but nobody bothers to notice.)
>>
>
>Amongst the 70% of Walmart stock that is made in China, to the tune of $18
>billion dollars annually?
>
>Charlie Self
>"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." Sir Winston
>Churchill
70% sounds kind of low, Charlie....
I doubt if they go more than 15% domestic, as they're experts in
marketing what will sell well.. and most domestic products are not
"affordable" compared to imports..
(yep, we've priced ourselves out of the market)
mac davis responds:
>>
>>Amongst the 70% of Walmart stock that is made in China, to the tune of $18
>>billion dollars annually?
>>
>>Charlie Self
>>"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." Sir
>Winston
>>Churchill
>
>70% sounds kind of low, Charlie....
>I doubt if they go more than 15% domestic, as they're experts in
>marketing what will sell well.. and most domestic products are not
>"affordable" compared to imports..
>(yep, we've priced ourselves out of the market)
I can't recall which program I heard that 70% on, but I'd guess it's fairly
accurate--the networks ain't really in love with Walmart.
As far as pricing ourselves out of the market, yeah, I guess that's the case.
Most factory workers want to live at least as well as lower level management
types (who really manage nothing). That prices them out of the market at
today's prices, but there is a huge list of objective, and subjective, reasons
for prices being as high as they are--check some history on the early Levittown
houses bought by WWII, as compared to today's "entry" level first owner homes.
Under 1000 SF (some were around 800SF), compared to over 2700 SF, for a start.
Charlie Self
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." Sir Winston
Churchill
Charlie Self wrote:
> subjective, reasons for prices being as high as they are--check some
> history on the early Levittown houses bought by WWII, as compared to
> today's "entry" level first owner homes. Under 1000 SF (some were around
> 800SF), compared to over 2700 SF, for a start.
Very true. My grandparents bought a little asbestos shingled two bedroom
place for $3,000 after WWII. About 800 sq. ft. sounds right. That place
is *cramped*. Raised two kids there.
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote:
>
>I can't recall which program I heard that 70% on, but I'd guess it's fairly
>accurate--the networks ain't really in love with Walmart.
So why does that cause you to suppose the figure is accurate?
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On 17 Dec 2004 17:41:10 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
calmly ranted:
>mac davis responds:
>
>>>
>>>Amongst the 70% of Walmart stock that is made in China, to the tune of $18
>>>billion dollars annually?
>>>
>>>Charlie Self
>>>"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." Sir
>>Winston
>>>Churchill
>>
>>70% sounds kind of low, Charlie....
>>I doubt if they go more than 15% domestic, as they're experts in
>>marketing what will sell well.. and most domestic products are not
>>"affordable" compared to imports..
>>(yep, we've priced ourselves out of the market)
>
>I can't recall which program I heard that 70% on, but I'd guess it's fairly
>accurate--the networks ain't really in love with Walmart.
"They're biased against them so it's accurate?" Oy vay! :-/
From sources I just saw by googling "walmart imports", Wally World
imports about $15B per year from China and does over $256B a year in
sales. Figuring a triple markup, that's 45 vs. 256, or 6%. Where does
that put your 70% figure (despite my wholesale vs. retail figures)?
They hire 1.2 million Americans at an average of $9.98/hr for
full-time associates.
Also, Walmart is the first company with their foot in the door and
stores in China. They're now exporting some of America's goods to
China, a Good Thing(tm).
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/secrets/stats.html
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Larry Jaques responds:
>
>"They're biased against them so it's accurate?" Oy vay! :-/
Read what I wrote. IIRC, you thought it was higher. I said it was unlikely to
be because the media company didn't much like Walmart. It might be lower.
Probably isn't.
>From sources I just saw by googling "walmart imports", Wally World
>imports about $15B per year from China and does over $256B a year in
>sales. Figuring a triple markup, that's 45 vs. 256, or 6%. Where does
>that put your 70% figure (despite my wholesale vs. retail figures)?
>They hire 1.2 million Americans at an average of $9.98/hr for
>full-time associates.
They are not MY figures Larry.
Where the HELL do you find the average Walmart associate making almost ten
bucks an hour? More like six around here.
>Also, Walmart is the first company with their foot in the door and
>stores in China. They're now exporting some of America's goods to
>China, a Good Thing(tm).
Maybe. I'd be curious to see percentages here, too.
Charlie Self
"Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power." Eric Hoffer
Charlie Self wrote:
> Where the HELL do you find the average Walmart associate making almost ten
> bucks an hour? More like six around here.
Probably not. Do you know anyone who works at Wally World? People
especially of the feminine persuasion got a huge raise this year. On the
order of $2.50 an hour in some cases. I think they're starting at $7 or $8
for new hires now.
Apparently they didn't like all the bad press about being the world's
largest employer and paying the lowest wages with the worst benefits
package of all major American companies, or the hints of a class action
lawsuit on behalf of all the people of the feminine persuasion who weren't
getting the extra penis premium on their checks.
They hired some independent research firm to send people into the stores and
work all the jobs from the ground up to the home office, then report on
what the job entailed, and what it was worth, adjusted broadly by locality.
Then they scaled up wages based on the difference between what people were
actually making, and what the results of this study determined they should
be making, and gave people the difference in one big hunk of a raise.
I'm just as shocked as you that they actually did something about it, but
they did. I certainly can't complain. Wal-Mart replaced my 20 year old
car at long last. They finally put SWMBO into a job she likes, after 13
years of getting jerked around, and that makes her less bitchy and more
content, so it's win-win all around, really. From the perspective of
working there anyway, which says nothing about the broader
sociopoliticoeconomic issues in play.
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On 18 Dec 2004 10:23:22 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
calmly ranted:
>Larry Jaques responds:
>>
>>"They're biased against them so it's accurate?" Oy vay! :-/
>
>Read what I wrote. IIRC, you thought it was higher. I said it was unlikely to
>be because the media company didn't much like Walmart. It might be lower.
>Probably isn't.
>
>>From sources I just saw by googling "walmart imports", Wally World
>>imports about $15B per year from China and does over $256B a year in
>>sales. Figuring a triple markup, that's 45 vs. 256, or 6%. Where does
>>that put your 70% figure (despite my wholesale vs. retail figures)?
>>They hire 1.2 million Americans at an average of $9.98/hr for
>>full-time associates.
>
>They are not MY figures Larry.
Sorry, how about "the figure you quoted"?
>Where the HELL do you find the average Walmart associate making almost ten
>bucks an hour? More like six around here.
Right there on the link I (thoughtfully) provided (so I wouldn't have
to answer that question.) <wink> BTW, I thought that ws high, too,
but they include everyone from the CEO on down as an "associate." Talk
about skewing the stats... <g>
Here it comes again:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/secrets/stats.html
>>Also, Walmart is the first company with their foot in the door and
>>stores in China. They're now exporting some of America's goods to
>>China, a Good Thing(tm).
>
>Maybe. I'd be curious to see percentages here, too.
They're hard to find, aren't they? Maybe Walmart will have
an answer for me. I'll email a query to 'em today then check
out their answers online.
I think maybe this particular topic is too close to the
heart, like the gun control arguments. Despite finding
the facts, the controllers won't disseminate their findings
when they find out it goes against their beliefs. Y'know,
a "Don't confuse my perfectly good fantasy with facts." kind
of thing. Idealism has its costs.
So, folks, who has the _real_ uptime lowdown on these Wally
World guys?
Calling All Wreckers: Cites, please.
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On Sat 18 Dec 2004 04:23:22a, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote in news:[email protected]:
> Where the HELL do you find the average Walmart associate making almost
> ten bucks an hour? More like six around here.
I think they're using the total wages for the company divided by the number
of employees, including management. If your company has 10 people making
five bucks and hour and one person making 40, then the average wage for the
company is 8.18.
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 20:44:12 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>mac davis wrote:
>
>> I doubt if they go more than 15% domestic, as they're experts in
>> marketing what will sell well.. and most domestic products are not
>
>They are experts. Bastards. I went for batteries and a pepper mill. I
>left with batteries, a pedometer, a pepper mill, a knife, and a knife
>sharpener. Bastards. I know how the game is played from the other side,
>but it still works.
>
>Junky old fashioned hardware stores with boxes upon boxes of things
>scattered around in random disarray are easier to shop at. You ask the guy
>where the left threaded blurfls are, and he shows you. You don't walk out
>with a blurfl sharpener, a right handed blurfl and three pounds of blurfl
>polish.
>
>Which is why junky old fashioned hardware stores are getting outcompeted by
>the BORGs.
another dying breed... hardware stores..
I try really hard to buy from our local hardware store.. he's
independent, no franchise, etc..
I try to get myself to pay extra for things there, because I'm getting
personal service and knowledgeable help...
In reality, I get both of those things from orchard Hardware... so the
real reason I go to the hardware store?
The bottom line is that I'm self employed and I feel his pain.. I try
to throw a little business his way BECAUSE he's a dying breed and I
hope to slow the process a bit..
On 17 Dec 2004 10:39:57 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
calmly ranted:
>Larry Jaques responds:
>
>>Call your local Wally World. I got my last can there for $4.68 or
>>some similar price, no shipping. See? Walmart DOES stock U.S. brands!
>>(Several hundred of them, actually, but nobody bothers to notice.)
>>
>
>Amongst the 70% of Walmart stock that is made in China, to the tune of $18
>billion dollars annually?
Please cite your info source, Charlie. I've been looking for that
kind of info on Wally World for over a year now.
I buy more food and US-made "stuff" from there than I do their
Chinese imports.
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Larry Jaques asks:
>On 17 Dec 2004 10:39:57 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
>calmly ranted:
>
>>Larry Jaques responds:
>>
>>>Call your local Wally World. I got my last can there for $4.68 or
>>>some similar price, no shipping. See? Walmart DOES stock U.S. brands!
>>>(Several hundred of them, actually, but nobody bothers to notice.)
>>>
>>
>>Amongst the 70% of Walmart stock that is made in China, to the tune of $18
>>billion dollars annually?
>
>Please cite your info source, Charlie. I've been looking for that
>kind of info on Wally World for over a year now.
>
>I buy more food and US-made "stuff" from there than I do their
>Chinese imports.
Yeah, well evidently most of the 30% American made stuff is food or similar.
I wish I could recall which news program...local or national...it could even
have been a story on AOL news. Dunno. I just remembered the figures, because
Walmart made such major brags about buying American made whenever they could
when they first moved to this area.
Seems like whenever they can is when they're in the fields looking at produce.
Charlie Self
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." Sir Winston
Churchill
Charlie Self wrote:
> because Walmart made such major brags about buying American made whenever
> they could when they first moved to this area.
Yeah. "We saved 247 jobs by buying the Super Blurfl from Bitsyco
Enterprises in Bumfuktu, OK." Where are those posters now?
> Seems like whenever they can is when they're in the fields looking at
> produce.
A lot of the produce comes out of Latin America. Most of the house brand
food comes out of Canada. Must be NAFTA.
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I did't know it is hard to find. I get it at the local Ace Harware store.
Dave
"Rick Cox" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I actually have a can of Johnsons that I took out of my grandfathers shop.
>The can appears to be built to survive the cold war and must be about 50
>years old.
>
> "RampRat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I have read on some posts on how hard it's getting to find some.
>> I read on another post that Lowes sells it still. I found it at Amazon
>> for $20.16/3pk. also SC Johnson's website is selling it for $33.06/6pk.
>> Just wanted to pass this info along. A 6 pack my be excessive but I
>> figure i'll have some to pass on to my grandchildren years down the
>> road. The links are below.
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0006OJZKQ/qid=1103214113/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl60/104-4814955-7439142?v=glance&s=hi&n=507846
>> http://www.scjbrands.com/mailorder/
>>
>>
>> Rick
>>
>
>
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>A guy I work with always says that he's not bald, he's just taller than his
> hair.
ingrown hair, or does it sprout somewhere else?
> "mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> the basic theory is that God made some really good looking heads...
>> but covered up the ones that didn't turn out too well with hair.. *g*
>>
>
>
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:36:07 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Dave W wrote:
>
>> I did't know it is hard to find. I get it at the local Ace Harware store.
>
>I think a lot of this started when I noticed I couldn't get it at Wally
>World anymore, then some Kanukistani convinced me that SC Johnson had
>decided to discontinue the stuff. I went on a holy quest to find a new
>supply of my favorite wax, and posted the results. That's what some of the
>comments in this current thread have alluded to.
>
>So it's all Silvan's fault again.
So you're the one I have to blame for the box with the lifetime supply of
Johnson's wax sitting in my closet. I ordered it right after reading the
thread on here over a year ago (maybe two Christmas's ago?) about how it
would no longer be available. ;-)
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:37:48 -0500, sandman <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> A guy I work with always says that he's not bald, he's just taller than his
>> hair.
>>
>> "mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > the basic theory is that God made some really good looking heads...
>> > but covered up the ones that didn't turn out too well with hair.. *g*
>> >
>>
>>
>
>My bald spot is just a solar panel for a sex machine.
Great tune!
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 20:42:00 -0500, "Dave W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I did't know it is hard to find. I get it at the local Ace Harware store.
>Dave
>
Our Super WalMart has it.
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 20:28:39 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>J T wrote:
>
>> Thu, Dec 16, 2004, 8:36am (EST-3) [email protected] (RampRat)
>> <snip> A 6 pack my be excessive <snip>
>>
>> MAY be excessive? I've got a can I bought years back, in my local
>> grocery (that still carries it, as far as I know), plus a full can I
>> bought at a flea market for $1. I'm pretty generous with it when I use
>> it, but the first can isn't even half gone. Get some buddies to chip i
>
>
>I've gone through about four cans in the last two years. I'm almost out
>again. I use that stuff on everything, and use it often.
wow.. must use it on your hair, too!! *g*
I bought 2 brands in 81, 1 can of each... down to about 1/4 of each
now..lol
In article <[email protected]>, Larry Blanchard
<[email protected]> wrote:
There are a lot of automotive waxes that should be as good. Just avoid
the silicone based waxes.
Dick
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> > I actually have a can of Johnsons that I took out of my grandfathers
> > shop.
> > The can appears to be built to survive the cold war and must be about
> > 50
> > years old.
> >
> Johnson's can be found, if only at their website. But I was still able
> to buy Trewax at a grocery store last time I needed some. I think it
> works better, but even if not it's "as good as" and easier to find.
In article <[email protected]>,
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
> A guy I work with always says that he's not bald, he's just taller than his
> hair.
>
> "mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > the basic theory is that God made some really good looking heads...
> > but covered up the ones that didn't turn out too well with hair.. *g*
> >
>
>
My bald spot is just a solar panel for a sex machine.
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:08:58 -0700, "Charles Spitzer"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>A guy I work with always says that he's not bald, he's just taller than his
>> hair.
>
>ingrown hair, or does it sprout somewhere else?
>
yep.. your ears and nose.. mental floss
On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 01:43:12 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>Australopithecus scobis wrote:
>
>> wax is free of silicone oil. I'd bet that they all have it. (Northern
>> Labs' (makers of Kit) response pointed out that they make Goddard's
>> Cabinet Makers Paste Wax, US$9.99/4.5oz tin, if anyone is interested.)
>
>Oh, and on that whole discontinued wax thread from a bit ago, now that I'm
>Mr. Mom, and have done some, yerk, shopping, hork, I can report that
>Wal-Mart does have this stuff on the chemicals isle in high quanties.
Is it still $4.72 a tin? That's where I got mine and what I paid a few
years ago.
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:33:46 -0800, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 21:59:03 -0700, Mark & Juanita
><[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>
>>On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:36:07 -0500, Silvan
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>So it's all Silvan's fault again.
>
>It always _is_.
>
>
>> So you're the one I have to blame for the box with the lifetime supply of
>>Johnson's wax sitting in my closet. I ordered it right after reading the
>>thread on here over a year ago (maybe two Christmas's ago?) about how it
>>would no longer be available. ;-)
>
>Jake to the rescue! I'll buy that stash from you for a whopping 12
>cents on the dollar, sir, and I'll even pay half the shipping. I
>like the stuff. Got my address, Mark?
>
No, AAMOF I don't. Please follow the following steps.
1. Send me your address
2. Hold your breath
3. Wait
:-)
I'm perfectly happy with my JW stash, who knows, one of these days they
really may abandon the market -- then where will the rest of you be?
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"RampRat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> I have read on some posts on how hard it's getting to find some.
> I read on another post that Lowes sells it still. I found it at Amazon
Cool. Thx.
The half-dozen Ace Hardware stores I pop into in the area all stock it.
On 16 Dec 2004 08:36:17 -0800, "RampRat" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have read on some posts on how hard it's getting to find some.
>I read on another post that Lowes sells it still. I found it at Amazon
>for $20.16/3pk. also SC Johnson's website is selling it for $33.06/6pk.
>Just wanted to pass this info along. A 6 pack my be excessive but I
>figure i'll have some to pass on to my grandchildren years down the
>road. The links are below.
>
I have a can of Briwax that came from my grandfather.:)
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0006OJZKQ/qid=1103214113/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl60/104-4814955-7439142?v=glance&s=hi&n=507846
>http://www.scjbrands.com/mailorder/
>
>
> Rick
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:54:11 GMT, "patrick conroy" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"RampRat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>> I have read on some posts on how hard it's getting to find some.
>> I read on another post that Lowes sells it still. I found it at Amazon
>
>Cool. Thx.
>
>The half-dozen Ace Hardware stores I pop into in the area all stock it.
>
Anyone know of a supplier in Canada.
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:57:04 GMT, Jim Weisgram
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 16 Dec 2004 08:36:17 -0800, "RampRat" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>I have read on some posts on how hard it's getting to find some.
>>I read on another post that Lowes sells it still. I found it at Amazon
>>for $20.16/3pk. also SC Johnson's website is selling it for $33.06/6pk.
>>Just wanted to pass this info along. A 6 pack my be excessive but I
>>figure i'll have some to pass on to my grandchildren years down the
>>road. The links are below.
>>
>>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0006OJZKQ/qid=1103214113/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl60/104-4814955-7439142?v=glance&s=hi&n=507846
>>http://www.scjbrands.com/mailorder/
>>
>>
>> Rick
>
>Ah, yes, the Johnson's Paste Wax myth. Yes, you can still get it. I
>believe it is no longer marketed in Canada, and that is the source of
>the posts.
>
>Of course, if they no longer sell it in Canada, no telling when and if
>they will pull it from the US market as well.
They won't even ship to Canada.
US addresses only.
I would love a couple cans to finish my MDF work benches.
It's so cheap.
Lee Valley sells a paste wax product but it's a bit pricy.
Is it the same as Johnson's?
I have an old can of Briwax clear, full, I wonder if it would be the way to go.
Stinks like hell!
Minwax make a paste wax but I can't find out if it contains sillycones or not.
Johnson's is a floor wax (says so on the can), but it is not allowed
for commercial floor use under OSHA regs (my understanding). Johnson's
apparently decided against reformulating their namesake product (I
believe it says Johnson's original paste wax on the can), which may be
one reason why it now has a pretty small market and can be hard to find
in some areas. I also assume (without any real basis in knowledge) that
the lack of anti-slip additives in a product that says it is a floor
wax may be why Johnson's Paste Wax is not sold in Canada (their regs
may be a bit more stringent than ours and not allow it for commercial
OR non-commercial floor applications).
Dave Hall
>Minwax make a paste wax but I can't find out if it contains sillycones or
>not.
>
It does not contain silicon(e), but it does contain anti-slip ingredients like
most other floor waxes. If you are using it as a finish on wood it should be
fine. If using it as a rust preventitive it should be as good as Johnson's ,
but if you are using it to make a surface slick I don't think anti-slip is what
you want ;)
Dave Hall
David Hall wrote:
> Johnson's , but if you are using it to make a surface slick I don't think
> anti-slip is what you want ;)
Pro'ly not. Is Johnson's considered a "floor wax?" I seem to recall the
word "floor" on the can somewhere, but it seems to do a spiffy keen job of
making things slickery.
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CW wrote:
>> Pro'ly not. Is Johnson's considered a "floor wax?" I seem to recall the
>> word "floor" on the can somewhere, but it seems to do a spiffy keen job
>> of making things slickery.
> By this question, I can tell you were never in the military.
I'll take that as a yes then. :)
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Dave Hall wrote:
> Johnson's is a floor wax (says so on the can), but it is not allowed
It alludes to being a floor wax in the fine print, but it doesn't call
itself a floor wax.
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>Dave Hall wrote:
>
>> Johnson's is a floor wax (says so on the can), but it is not allowed
>
>It alludes to being a floor wax in the fine print, but it doesn't call
>itself a floor wax.
>
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Ha! You are right. It says it is a wax. It says "for floors wait 20-30 minutes
before buffing...", it says "Member - National Wood Flooring Association", it
says "For additional information about floor care, call...", but it does not
say "I am a floor wax" LOL
David Hall wrote:
> Association", it says "For additional information about floor care,
> call...", but it does not say "I am a floor wax" LOL
Pro'ly so's they don't get sued, I 'magine.
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 20:37:05 -0500, Silvan <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Dave Hall wrote:
>
>> Johnson's is a floor wax (says so on the can), but it is not allowed
>
>It alludes to being a floor wax in the fine print, but it doesn't call
>itself a floor wax.
Briwax is used on floors as well but according to a distributor in the US it is
even more slippery than Johnson's so they don't recommend it.
By this question, I can tell you were never in the military.
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Pro'ly not. Is Johnson's considered a "floor wax?" I seem to recall the
> word "floor" on the can somewhere, but it seems to do a spiffy keen job of
> making things slickery.
>
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On 17 Dec 2004 01:45:56 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote:
>Gino SameOld asks:
>
>>
>>Minwax make a paste wax but I can't find out if it contains sillycones or
>>not.
>
>Similar to Johnson's, not a cone in sight, silly or otherwise.
>
Charlie have you ever used the Briwax, it stinks to high heaven but boy does it
dry HARD.
You really need the elbow grease to buff it out.
The only can I've got or used is at least 40 years old.
It's been laying around here for years and I just opened it a month or two ago.
I looked up their website and it looks to be good stuff.
Gin SameOld asks:
>Charlie have you ever used the Briwax, it stinks to high heaven but boy does
>it
>dry HARD.
>You really need the elbow grease to buff it out.
>The only can I've got or used is at least 40 years old.
>It's been laying around here for years and I just opened it a month or two
>ago.
>
>I looked up their website and it looks to be good stuff.
It is good, but expensive. I use my own concoction for table tops. More
carnauba than is in the commercial waxes. Harder to apply, but I use a cordless
power buffer and it buffs out nicely. Three coats last me about a year.
Charlie Self
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." Sir Winston
Churchill
On 17 Dec 2004 10:37:04 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote:
>Gin SameOld asks:
>
>>Charlie have you ever used the Briwax, it stinks to high heaven but boy does
>>it
>>dry HARD.
>>You really need the elbow grease to buff it out.
>>The only can I've got or used is at least 40 years old.
>>It's been laying around here for years and I just opened it a month or two
>>ago.
>>
>>I looked up their website and it looks to be good stuff.
>
>It is good, but expensive.
Briwax is $20 a can here in the great white north, that's $3 cheaper than Lee
Valley's product.
Does the Lee Valley wax have anti-slip agents?
I assume the Briwax does not because it's a furniture wax.
I figure Johnsons will cost me at least $15 delivered from anywhere in the US.
Briwax looks like the way to go, and hey I've already got a 40 year old can of
the stuff almost full.:)
I can't find anything else.
>I use my own concoction for table tops. More
>carnauba than is in the commercial waxes. Harder to apply, but I use a cordless
>power buffer and it buffs out nicely. Three coats last me about a year.
>
I may need on of those buffers for Briwax.:)
>Charlie Self
>"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." Sir Winston
>Churchill
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 12:53:47 -0700, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> wrote:
<snip>
>>Jake to the rescue! I'll buy that stash from you for a whopping 12
>>cents on the dollar, sir, and I'll even pay half the shipping. I
>>like the stuff. Got my address, Mark?
>>
>
> No, AAMOF I don't. Please follow the following steps.
>
>1. Send me your address
>2. Hold your breath
>3. Wait
>
>
>:-)
>
> I'm perfectly happy with my JW stash, who knows, one of these days they
>really may abandon the market -- then where will the rest of you be?
>
>
bidding on your dutch auction on Ebay??
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 11:09:27 -0800, Richard Cline wrote:
> There are a lot of automotive waxes that should be as good. Just avoid
> the silicone based waxes.
That's trickier than you might think. I have a can of Kit paste wax which
touts its carnauba content, but doesn't mention silicones. Emailed
customer support, got a quick response: it has silicone oils. So, unless
you check with the manufacturer, you won't be sure that can of automotive
wax is free of silicone oil. I'd bet that they all have it. (Northern
Labs' (makers of Kit) response pointed out that they make Goddard's
Cabinet Makers Paste Wax, US$9.99/4.5oz tin, if anyone is interested.)
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 20:27:50 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>mac davis wrote:
>
>> I don't have that problem... my wife calls my haircut a "no hawk"..
>>
>> the basic theory is that God made some really good looking heads...
>> but covered up the ones that didn't turn out too well with hair.. *g*
>
>Mine must be getting better looking every day then. Though I figured it was
>just because my brain has been expanding and pushing my forehead up as I
>have acquired more woodworking knowledge.
it might be from all that leaning into the grinding wheel.. maybe you
need a spacer like I have.. my stomach has become a curb finder.. lol
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 21:59:03 -0700, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:36:07 -0500, Silvan
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>So it's all Silvan's fault again.
It always _is_.
> So you're the one I have to blame for the box with the lifetime supply of
>Johnson's wax sitting in my closet. I ordered it right after reading the
>thread on here over a year ago (maybe two Christmas's ago?) about how it
>would no longer be available. ;-)
Jake to the rescue! I'll buy that stash from you for a whopping 12
cents on the dollar, sir, and I'll even pay half the shipping. I
like the stuff. Got my address, Mark?
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I actually have a can of Johnsons that I took out of my grandfathers shop.
The can appears to be built to survive the cold war and must be about 50
years old.
"RampRat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have read on some posts on how hard it's getting to find some.
> I read on another post that Lowes sells it still. I found it at Amazon
> for $20.16/3pk. also SC Johnson's website is selling it for $33.06/6pk.
> Just wanted to pass this info along. A 6 pack my be excessive but I
> figure i'll have some to pass on to my grandchildren years down the
> road. The links are below.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0006OJZKQ/qid=1103214113/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl60/104-4814955-7439142?v=glance&s=hi&n=507846
> http://www.scjbrands.com/mailorder/
>
>
> Rick
>
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 02:56:07 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, Gino <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>They won't even ship to Canada.
>>US addresses only.
>
>Anybody know whether that's due to a business decision, or to U.S. export
>regulations, or Canadian import regulations?
According to Johnson's it because UPS doesn't come to Canada and that the only
way they ship.
They couldn't or wouldn't name a single company in Canada selling the stuff
either, even though there is nothing stopping Canadian retailers or wholesalers
from buying the stuff.
>>
>>Minwax make a paste wax but I can't find out if it contains sillycones or not.
>
>According to Minwax, their "Paste Finishing Wax" is silicone-free. I phoned
>them and asked. They also sent a copy of the MSDS, and it makes no mention of
>silicone.
Well, I used MinWax paste wax on my Shopsmith before I found out the
difference. I now use Johnson's. I can tell a substantial difference.
Floor wax is to protect the floor, shine it up, etc. It is not a great
idea, however, to make your floor slipperier than snot. Therefore quite
a while back floor waxes began to add anti-slip ingredients. It was
subsequently required under, I believe, an OSHA reg. Johnson's did not
reformulate their namesake product.
On 17 Dec 2004 03:35:56 GMT, [email protected] (David Hall) wrote:
>>They couldn't or wouldn't name a single company in Canada selling the stuff
>>either, even though there is nothing stopping Canadian retailers or
>>wholesalers
>>from buying the stuff.
>>
>
>My understanding is that Canada requires the use of anti-slip ingredients in
>all floor waxes and Johnson's does not have them. Johnson's (and possibly a few
>others) were grandfathered from the regs in the US. It is my understanding that
>it is still against OSHA regs to use floor waxes without anti-slip ingredients
>in commercial applications subject to OSHA. I know that the school district I
>work for in Pennsylvania does not use Johnson's as a floor wax due to
>liability issues.
>
>Dave Hall
hmm... I use it mostly on the shopsmith, per their instructions, and
have been doing that for 20+ years... wonder if "non-slip" wax
(sounds like Military Intelligence) would still make the tubes slide
well, o stick and jam??
>They couldn't or wouldn't name a single company in Canada selling the stuff
>either, even though there is nothing stopping Canadian retailers or
>wholesalers
>from buying the stuff.
>
My understanding is that Canada requires the use of anti-slip ingredients in
all floor waxes and Johnson's does not have them. Johnson's (and possibly a few
others) were grandfathered from the regs in the US. It is my understanding that
it is still against OSHA regs to use floor waxes without anti-slip ingredients
in commercial applications subject to OSHA. I know that the school district I
work for in Pennsylvania does not use Johnson's as a floor wax due to
liability issues.
Dave Hall
In article <[email protected]>, Gino <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 02:56:07 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>, Gino
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>They won't even ship to Canada.
>>>US addresses only.
>>
>>Anybody know whether that's due to a business decision, or to U.S. export
>>regulations, or Canadian import regulations?
>
>According to Johnson's it because UPS doesn't come to Canada and that the only
>way they ship.
Interesting. Heck, I'll ship it USPS Parcel Post to any Canadian that wants
it. For the right price, of course... :-)
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UPS does run in Canada. They charge outrages fees for crossing the boarder
though.
"Gino" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 02:56:07 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>, Gino
<[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>They won't even ship to Canada.
> >>US addresses only.
> >
> >Anybody know whether that's due to a business decision, or to U.S. export
> >regulations, or Canadian import regulations?
>
> According to Johnson's it because UPS doesn't come to Canada and that the
only
> way they ship.
>
> They couldn't or wouldn't name a single company in Canada selling the
stuff
> either, even though there is nothing stopping Canadian retailers or
wholesalers
> from buying the stuff.
>
> >>
> >>Minwax make a paste wax but I can't find out if it contains sillycones
or not.
> >
> >According to Minwax, their "Paste Finishing Wax" is silicone-free. I
phoned
> >them and asked. They also sent a copy of the MSDS, and it makes no
mention of
> >silicone.
>
"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Johnson's can be found, if only at their website. But I was still able
> to buy Trewax at a grocery store last time I needed some. I think it
> works better, but even if not it's "as good as" and easier to find.
>
There were sure piles of the Johnson's wax at Ft. Leonard Wood PX back when
I took basic('66)....I just bet there are a few cans there yet.
Larry(SP4-E4)