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1851 looks like some kind of heating element. Probably for a small hot
plate.
1854 might be a saddle cradle. When you take the saddle off your horse
you throw it over this form.
Big ??? on the others
DL
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OK, I've looked @ some of the other answers, but I'll drop my first
impression guesses.
1849 - my first thought was some type of pressure regulator.
1852 - Obviously horse drawn, from looking @ other pieces in picture,
also the drawing has a "whiffle-tree" for single horse hookup. First
thought was a planters unit, with operator having "sets" on each side,
and putting them in ground in the front opening. Second though, some
type of horse drawn cutter, as the angled pieces labelled "8" in the
drawing look like they may be sharp edged, unit being pulled between
rows and cutting off whatever grows on each side.
1853 - is that "caning" material in the cutter? Looks like the guide
brings the material in @ an angle, and there is a stop so it doesn't
cut very deep. Maybe for putting a "point" on caning so it is easier
to thread?
1854 - I'll agree with someone else, looks like a pack saddle.
Norm
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1850- fusible link chain for a gravity-powered fire door?
Dave
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>
> 1849. wondering if it's from that "visible gas pump" you put up a couple
> weeks ago. check valve. would a 2 1/2 inch steel ball be too heavy?
>
> 1852. horse drawn corn cutter. (is it inappropriate to post links?)
> http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67144
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i think there must be a part missing from the front. the cast iron
semicircle, i think it must have a mating forward mounted crescent so the
front wheels can pivot around for sharp turns. as it is now one side or the
other of the axle is going to pop out just as soon as there's any turning.
i can't see how that front wheel can turn even a 1/2 degree without some
sort of mating forward cast iron slot thing for the ball ends of the axle to
slide around in. if the front wheels don't turn why bother with that
semicircular cast iron part? it also looks like there are bolt/screw holes
in the casting on the front axle near where the horse hitch pivot points
are, looks like some wood part used to be bolted/screwed onto it. a cup
holder?
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1853: Wild guess but could be a reed cutter for wind instruments?
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1849 could be a safety valve from a very old industrial pressure cooker.
These have no spring.
Steve R.
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1849. wondering if it's from that "visible gas pump" you put up a couple
weeks ago. check valve. would a 2 1/2 inch steel ball be too heavy?
1852. horse drawn corn cutter. (is it inappropriate to post links?)
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67144
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> It does look like a valve but that's not its intended use.
1849 -- I'm guessing that with no functional reason disclosed for the
knurling, and no sign that this mounts on anything else, that it's either a
salesman's or engineer's sample display for the desk, probably for a ball
bearing maker.
LLoyd
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> sample display for the desk
I should have also said, "basically, a paperweight."
LS
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I don't know that I'll be too helpful, unfortunately.
1849 - This looks very much like a ball valve, such as might be used in
a pump. I don't know why such a valve would be knurled so much around
the outside, though; although knurling can make for a tighter press fit,
I'm not sure it would do anything good for the air or water tightness of
the valve. Likewise, the gaps around the cage bars where they go
through the base plate would seem to be problematic.
1850 - Operator chain/rope for an awning or venetian blinds, perhaps?
Pulling on one rope would open, the other would close.
1851 - Possibly, this was intended to hold the mouth of a drawstring bag
open, say for stitching a seam on the bag or filling it. The hooks
could engage in the holes for the drawstring, and then by flipping them
over the spring part it would be held open.
1852 - Amusement ride car?
1853 - It's a number 2...something. The blade on the lower jaw seems to
be designed to cut whatever is in the tube part at the front at a
specific angle. Maybe it's a wire stripper of some manner?
1854 - Seat (upside-down in the picture) from a cart or wagon? Rocking
footrest (also upside-down)?
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lose." -- Jim Elliot
Nothing but guesses:
1841 The surface finish on the sphere doesn't seem good enough for it to be
a mechanical or optical reference. I'll guess that it is a magnetic
compensation device for a magnetic compass or binnacle.
1851 Flower arrangement base? Stick the stems into the slots around the
loop.
1852 Milking stool?
1853 Quill Pen tipping device? Industrialized replacement for a pen-knife.
1854 Saddle or core of a saddle?
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1849 appears to be a check valve. Allows flow of water, or
air or gas in one direction only. In case of reverse flow,
the ball closes the hole.
1850 what comes to mind is a "throw over the limb" chain
saw. Throw the one end over, and pull the ropes one at a
time. The saw chain cuts through the limb. It doesn't appear
to be set up for saw teeth.
1851 appears to be top of a coat rack, for a restaurant.
1852 appears to be something a man could sit, and ride
behind a horse. On city streets, not through fields. A poor
man's sleigh.
1853 is a toe nail trimmer for dogs.
1854 is a seat for a wagon. As positioned in this photo, the
driver is face down, and his buttcrack is on top.
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1849: Pressure-relief valve? If it seals only at the center of the pit,
the pressure would depend on the size of the orifice. It would never
get out of calibration
A stuck or clogged valve is a danger on a home pressure cooker. This
one could be checked by poking with a stick.
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1852: I suspect that the pairs of wheels would fit on the inside and
outside of a certain class of railroad track. From the diagram it
appears it was design to be towed. From the seat, it appears it wasn't
designed to be towed too fast! ; )
Bill
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> Rob H. wrote:
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>> Rob
>
> 1852: I suspect that the pairs of wheels would fit on the inside and
> outside of a certain class of railroad track. From the diagram it
> appears it was design to be towed. From the seat, it appears it wasn't
> designed to be towed too fast! ; )
>
> Bill
And its "wings" allow you to board from either side of the track.
Bill
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> 1849 appears to be a check valve. Allows flow of water, or
> air or gas in one direction only. In case of reverse flow,
> the ball closes the hole.
It does look like a valve but that's not its intended use.
> 1852 appears to be something a man could sit, and ride
> behind a horse. On city streets, not through fields. A poor
> man's sleigh.
Yes, it's pulled by a horse, and as I mentioned in the comments on the web
site, it's difficult to tell from the photo but the metal plates are
actually blades.
Rob
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> I think 1854 is a pack saddle .
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This answer is correct.
Rob
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>> It does look like a valve but that's not its intended use.
>
> 1849 -- I'm guessing that with no functional reason disclosed for the
> knurling, and no sign that this mounts on anything else, that it's either
> a
> salesman's or engineer's sample display for the desk, probably for a ball
> bearing maker.
>
> LLoyd
This item does have a function, and the knurling is for a better grip when
mounting it.
Rob
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> 1849. wondering if it's from that "visible gas pump" you put up a couple
> weeks ago. check valve. would a 2 1/2 inch steel ball be too heavy?
Nope, it's not part of a gas pump.
> 1852. horse drawn corn cutter. (is it inappropriate to post links?)
> http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67144
Thanks, that's a good link, and yes it's ok to post links here.
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1849. I recall seeing one of these back in the early '60's. It was screwed
onto the end of a large fabric hose, much like a fireman's hose. The other
end of the hose wasn't attached to anything. I assumed it was to provide
a circular spray pattern to the water but I never knew for sure.
Art
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1849 - Starr-Edwards valve for Chewbacca
1852 - Some form of harvester/cutter
1854 - Pack saddle
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>>> It does look like a valve but that's not its intended use.
>>
>> 1849 -- I'm guessing that with no functional reason disclosed for the
>> knurling, and no sign that this mounts on anything else, that it's
>> either a
>> salesman's or engineer's sample display for the desk, probably for a ball
>> bearing maker.
>>
>> LLoyd
>
>
>
> This item does have a function, and the knurling is for a better grip
> when mounting it.
>
>
> Rob
1849: How about for calibrating pressure gages? It could be for a gas
or a liquid. The orifice is small. When it gets high enough, the ball
will float on a cushion, spinning easily. If it's too high, there will
be some sort of bouncing, vibration, hissing, or spurting.
When it will quietly spin, you know your exact pressure and can set your
gage.
>>
>> This item does have a function, and the knurling is for a better grip
>> when mounting it.
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> 1849: How about for calibrating pressure gages? It could be for a gas
> or a liquid. The orifice is small. When it gets high enough, the ball
> will float on a cushion, spinning easily. If it's too high, there will
> be some sort of bouncing, vibration, hissing, or spurting.
>
> When it will quietly spin, you know your exact pressure and can set your
> gage.
Nope, that's not it. It has something to do with water.
Rob
Rob H. wrote:
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>>>
>>> This item does have a function, and the knurling is for a better grip
>>> when mounting it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>> 1849: How about for calibrating pressure gages? It could be for a gas
>> or a liquid. The orifice is small. When it gets high enough, the
>> ball will float on a cushion, spinning easily. If it's too high,
>> there will be some sort of bouncing, vibration, hissing, or spurting.
>>
>> When it will quietly spin, you know your exact pressure and can set
>> your gage.
>
> Nope, that's not it. It has something to do with water.
>
> Rob
How about a sprinkler head? If it's level and the pressure is suitable,
the ball bounces, distributing water drops fairly evenly.
Unlike some designs, it would have no little holes to clog and no
sliding surfaces to jam from corrosion or dirt.
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> Nope, that's not it. It has something to do with water.
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> Rob
Repeating yesterday's post:
1849. I recall seeing one of these back in the early '60's. It was screwed
onto the end of a large fabric hose, much like a fireman's hose. The other
end of the hose wasn't attached to anything. I assumed it was to provide
a circular spray pattern to the water but I never knew for sure.
Art
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>> Nope, that's not it. It has something to do with water.
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>> Rob
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> Repeating yesterday's post:
> 1849. I recall seeing one of these back in the early '60's. It was
> screwed
> onto the end of a large fabric hose, much like a fireman's hose. The
> other
> end of the hose wasn't attached to anything. I assumed it was to provide
> a circular spray pattern to the water but I never knew for sure.
> Art
Yes, this is correct, it's a nozzle for a fireman's hose, somehow I didn't
see your post yesterday.
Tough set this week, no answers yet on the two unidentified items, the rest
of the answers can be seen here:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/02/set-323.html#answers
Rob
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> Tough set this week, no answers yet on the two unidentified items, the
> rest of the answers can be seen here:
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/02/set-323.html#answers
...
I've never seen the sled arrangement as shown but it looks like it would
serve as a knifesled; a cultivation tool for row crops while small.
Primarily used with listed crops rather than corn planters as they had a
continuous ridge. If so, the sled straddles the crop and the two knives
(wings, items #8 on patent drawing) run thru the ridge between the rows
and cut the roots of weeds, etc., w/o moving enough dirt to bury a small
crop.
BTW, one's not lived until spent much time w/ a four-row lister, then
have to sled/cultivate w/ a six- or eight-row setup. Makes driving a
straight row and keeping spacing more than a passing thought exercise...
:) (Another geezer story w/ the DAMHIKT caveat...)
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>>>
>>> Nope, that's not it. It has something to do with water.
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>> Repeating yesterday's post:
>> 1849. I recall seeing one of these back in the early '60's. It was
>> screwed
>> onto the end of a large fabric hose, much like a fireman's hose. The
>> other
>> end of the hose wasn't attached to anything. I assumed it was to provide
>> a circular spray pattern to the water but I never knew for sure.
>> Art
>
>
> Yes, this is correct, it's a nozzle for a fireman's hose, somehow I
> didn't see your post yesterday.
>
> Tough set this week, no answers yet on the two unidentified items, the
> rest of the answers can be seen here:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/02/set-323.html#answers
>
>
> Rob
>
>
A stream has greater range and can be used to tear apart burning solids
or to apply foam, but a fog nozzle still has the same advantages as when
it was invented, about 1920.
1. Fog absorbs heat, which can protect a firefighter as well as slowing
the fire.
2. Fog generates lots of water vapor, which displaces oxygen.
3. Fog can work on burning liquids.
4. Fog can wet an area better than a stream.
Thanks. I've never seen that design of nozzle.
As to "today straight stream is preferred". My
experience with fire fighting, some years ago.
Both have their times and their uses. As I
remember hearing, in the early days of fire hoses,
solid stream was all that was made. Eventually
someone noticed that a fog pattern had its uses.
One of the nozzles I remember seeing on a truck
had a pull handle to turn it on, and you could
select stream (water came out one hole) or spray
pattern (water came out several holes) by pulling
the handle more or less. Some nozzles now days
have a ring near the opening handle that allows
the operator to adjust the GPM, galons per minute.
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> Repeating yesterday's post:
> 1849. I recall seeing one of these back in the
> early '60's. It was
> screwed
> onto the end of a large fabric hose, much like a
> fireman's hose. The
> other
> end of the hose wasn't attached to anything. I
> assumed it was to provide
> a circular spray pattern to the water but I
> never knew for sure.
> Art
Yes, this is correct, it's a nozzle for a
fireman's hose, somehow I didn't
see your post yesterday.
Tough set this week, no answers yet on the two
unidentified items, the rest
of the answers can be seen here:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/02/set-323.html#answers
Rob
I'm sure it depends on the situation, I was just repeating what a fireman
had told me about the nozzle.
Someone left a comment on the web site about the chain with the metal tip,
suggesting it could be fish stringer without the parts that hold the fish.
Sounds like a good possibility to me since stringers have a metal tip just
like this one does.
Rob
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> had told me about the nozzle.
>
> Someone left a comment on the web site about the chain with the metal tip,
> suggesting it could be fish stringer without the parts that hold the fish.
> Sounds like a good possibility to me since stringers have a metal tip just
> like this one does.
I've been told by a couple of people that the cord/chain with the metal tip
is a gun cleaning chain, a cleaning patch was attached to the end and it was
then pulled through the barrel.
Rob
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> 1849 appears to be a check valve. Allows flow of water, or
> air or gas in one direction only. In case of reverse flow,
> the ball closes the hole.
Yup, looks like it to me, also.
>
> 1850 what comes to mind is a "throw over the limb" chain
> saw. Throw the one end over, and pull the ropes one at a
> time. The saw chain cuts through the limb. It doesn't appear
> to be set up for saw teeth.
>
Perhaps a chain to be used to "fish" in a wall. The flexible and
heavy chain will work its way past an obstruction, permitting the
electrician etc. to pull wire.
> 1851 appears to be top of a coat rack, for a restaurant.
The hooks appear to swivel. No idea.
>
> 1852 appears to be something a man could sit, and ride
> behind a horse. On city streets, not through fields. A poor
> man's sleigh.
Planting sleigh to be pulled by a horse. The farmer sits on the
seat and leans over as the sled goes down a row, inserting plants
into a furrough. I suspect it was used to plant tobacco seedlings
or other small plants, rather than seeds.
>
> 1853 is a toe nail trimmer for dogs.
Perhaps a hog ring crimper? The nose end is a bit hard to make
out, but it appears to be for crimping something.
>
> 1854 is a seat for a wagon. As positioned in this photo, the
> driver is face down, and his buttcrack is on top.
No clue. Perhaps a mule/horse pack?
>
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Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
1849) I would like to have a view at the underside of the assembly.
It looks like a form of check valve (one way flow), but there
needs to be some way to mount it in the flow path. This would
either be with a pipe fitting on the underside, or perhaps the
OD of the bronze disc captured against the wall of the container
with a gasket sealing it.
I sort of expect pipe threads on the underside which the
knurling on the OD of the bronze disk would allow screwing on
and/or off -- but it might be to simply make it easier to grasp
it when lifting free of the mounting point.
I think that I see a nut on the end of the nearest branch of the
cage on the underside.
1850) Could it be a surveyor's measurement chain? I've never seen
one -- just read about them, so it could look like this.
1851) Some sort of strainer gasket which clips over the mouth of
something like a Mason jar or a teapot?
1852) Perhaps an equivalent for a mechanic's creeper for working
under horse-drawn wagons? The "wings" could be for resting
tools.
Or -- based on the really long bandsaw blade coiled up in the
background, a cart for moving lumber through a sawmill?
1853) It sort of looks like an end cutting wire stripper, but not
quite.
It appears to be for trimming the end of small wood splints at a
45 degree angle -- perhaps to make some form of scraper?
But it also appears to be an exhibit in a museum, based on how it
is mounted tot he background. :-)
1854) This looks like a pack saddle -- perhaps for a burro (donkey)
instead of a horse. It is for loading supplies onto the critter,
not people. The gap avoids wear on the beast's backbone ridge.
A tough set this week.
Now to see what others have suggested.
Enjoy,
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> "Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> 1849 appears to be a check valve. Allows flow of water, or
>> air or gas in one direction only. In case of reverse flow,
>> the ball closes the hole.
>
> It does look like a valve but that's not its intended use.
>
>> 1852 appears to be something a man could sit, and ride
>> behind a horse. On city streets, not through fields. A poor
>> man's sleigh.
>
> Yes, it's pulled by a horse, and as I mentioned in the comments on the web
> site, it's difficult to tell from the photo but the metal plates are
> actually blades.
Then it is perhaps for harvesting sugar cane or something
similar?
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>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>>
>> 1849. wondering if it's from that "visible gas pump" you put up a couple
>> weeks ago. check valve. would a 2 1/2 inch steel ball be too heavy?
>>
>> 1852. horse drawn corn cutter. (is it inappropriate to post links?)
>> http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67144
>>
>
> i think there must be a part missing from the front. the cast iron
> semicircle, i think it must have a mating forward mounted crescent so the
> front wheels can pivot around for sharp turns. as it is now one side or
> the other of the axle is going to pop out just as soon as there's any
> turning. i can't see how that front wheel can turn even a 1/2 degree
> without some sort of mating forward cast iron slot thing for the ball ends
> of the axle to slide around in. if the front wheels don't turn why bother
> with that semicircular cast iron part? it also looks like there are
> bolt/screw holes in the casting on the front axle near where the horse
> hitch pivot points are, looks like some wood part used to be
> bolted/screwed onto it. a cup holder?
>
oh, oops, sorry for the multiple posts. i see from the photos in the link i
posted, it's got semicircular rods that slide within the semicircular cast
iron part so it can turn.
b.w.