Plywood Rabbets - Dado Blade on TS or Router??

"Chef Juke" wrote:

> I need to make some 5/16 x 5/16 rabbets on the edge of some birch
> plywood replacement kitchen cabinet doors I am making.
>
> Anybody have any suggestion on which would be the best method for
> trouble-free rabbets with minimal problems, Dado blade on my table
> saw
> or using my router table with a dado or straight bit?

I'd set up a 1/4 wide dado, make a pass, then end for end and make a
2nd pass.

This will allow you to make sure rabbet is centered and also allows
you to adjust witdh of dado, if necessary.


Lew

On Nov 17, 9:17=A0am, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Chef Juke"
>
> > So, a quick question,
>
> > I need to make some 5/16 x 5/16 rabbets on the edge of some birch
> > plywood replacement kitchen cabinet doors I am making.
>
> > Anybody have any suggestion on which would be the best method for
> > trouble-free rabbets with minimal problems, Dado blade on my table saw
> > or using my router table with a dado or straight bit?
>
> One man's poi is another man's poison ... I would always opt for the tabl=
e
> saw, with a sacrificial fence, over a router to do this job. An easy, qui=
ck,
> accurate, less chance of tearout, one pass operation.
>
> But then, that's just my preference ... YMMV
>
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> KarlC@ (the obvious)

Absolutely.

"Chef Juke"
> So, a quick question,
>
> I need to make some 5/16 x 5/16 rabbets on the edge of some birch
> plywood replacement kitchen cabinet doors I am making.
>
> Anybody have any suggestion on which would be the best method for
> trouble-free rabbets with minimal problems, Dado blade on my table saw
> or using my router table with a dado or straight bit?

One man's poi is another man's poison ... I would always opt for the table
saw, with a sacrificial fence, over a router to do this job. An easy, quick,
accurate, less chance of tearout, one pass operation.

But then, that's just my preference ... YMMV

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You are back ???

We ain't see you in a while.

Where you been ?

Jeffrey Thunder wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Chef Juke <[email protected]> writes:
>> Anybody have any suggestion on which would be the best method for
>> trouble-free rabbets with minimal problems, Dado blade on my table saw
>> or using my router table with a dado or straight bit?
>
> In my limited experience, the dado blades on a table saw will stay sharp
> longer than a router bit used for the same operation. If true this may
> be due to more cutting edges on the saw (24 teeth, 48? I forget how many
> on my Jesada dado set) as compared to the router bit (probably 2).
>
> For this reason, I'll typically use
> the dado set for plywood. For solid wood, especially with the grain, I
> may use the router. Neanderthals (they don't hang out here on the wreck
> so much, anymore) would reach for a specialized plane in that situation.
>

"Lew Hodgett" wrote
> "Swingman" wrote:
>
>> Centered on what, Lew? ;)
>
> The piece of stock receiving the rabbet, in this case the birch ply.

LOL ... that would be worth seeing when plowing a "rabbet" ... what page of
Fred Bingham's book is that on?

<g, d & r>

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"Swingman" wrote:

> Centered on what, Lew? ;)

The piece of stock receiving the rabbet, in this case the birch ply.

Lew

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:03:55 -0800, Chef Juke <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Hey All,
>
>So, a quick question,
>
>I need to make some 5/16 x 5/16 rabbets on the edge of some birch
>plywood replacement kitchen cabinet doors I am making.
>
>Anybody have any suggestion on which would be the best method for
>trouble-free rabbets with minimal problems, Dado blade on my table saw
>or using my router table with a dado or straight bit?
>
>The doors aren't that big, 22" x 14" do they wouldn't be unwieldy for
>either method.
>
>I have no problem going either way, but as, for some reason, I haven't
>had cause to cut any rabbets in a long time and now have both a nice
>Dado blade set (freud) and a new P-C 3-1/4 HP speedmatic router in a
>new cast iron router table extension for my table saw, I figured I
>could go either way and wanted folks opinions on the pros and cons of
>each method.
>
>Any suggestions, opinions, ideas greatly appreciated.
>-Chef Juke
>"EVERYbody Eats when they come to MY house!"
>http://www.chefjuke.com


All,

ThanksMax, Lew, & Swingman for the advice. I decided to go for the
router table and rabbetting bit this time and things worked out well.

Will use the dado blade next time to compare.

(Max,FYI: I used a Lee Valley rabbetting bit -
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=30111&cat=1,46168,46176&ap=1
)

Thanks again,
-Chef Juke
"EVERYbody Eats when they come to MY house!"
http://www.chefjuke.com

"Swingman" wrote:

> LOL ... that would be worth seeing when plowing a "rabbet" ... what
> page of Fred Bingham's book is that on?

DUH!

Much too late at night when 1st post made.

Yes dummy, there is a difference between a dado and a rabbet isn't
there, he says to self..

Lew

In article <[email protected]>,
Chef Juke <[email protected]> writes:
>
> Anybody have any suggestion on which would be the best method for
> trouble-free rabbets with minimal problems, Dado blade on my table saw
> or using my router table with a dado or straight bit?

In my limited experience, the dado blades on a table saw will stay sharp
longer than a router bit used for the same operation. If true this may
be due to more cutting edges on the saw (24 teeth, 48? I forget how many
on my Jesada dado set) as compared to the router bit (probably 2).

For this reason, I'll typically use
the dado set for plywood. For solid wood, especially with the grain, I
may use the router. Neanderthals (they don't hang out here on the wreck
so much, anymore) would reach for a specialized plane in that situation.

--
Jeff Thunder
Dept. of Mathematical Sciences
Northern Illinois Univ.
jthunder at math dot niu dot edu

"Lew Hodgett" wrote
> "Chef Juke" wrote:
>
>> I need to make some 5/16 x 5/16 rabbets on the edge of some birch
>> plywood replacement kitchen cabinet doors I am making.

> I'd set up a 1/4 wide dado, make a pass, then end for end and make a 2nd
> pass.
>
> This will allow you to make sure rabbet is centered and also allows you to
> adjust witdh of dado, if necessary.

Centered on what, Lew? ;)

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"Lew Hodgett" sez:

> DUH!

ROTFL ... That's alright, buddy ... I won't tell! :)

<who, for the umpteenth time, cut the right angle on the wrong end this AM,
again>

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"Jeffrey Thunder" wrote

> For this reason, I'll typically use
> the dado set for plywood. For solid wood, especially with the grain, I
> may use the router. Neanderthals (they don't hang out here on the wreck
> so much, anymore) would reach for a specialized plane in that situation.

It's suddenly déjà vu all over again around here ... is that your "one post
a year" these days? :)

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"Chef Juke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hey All,
>
> So, a quick question,
>
> I need to make some 5/16 x 5/16 rabbets on the edge of some birch
> plywood replacement kitchen cabinet doors I am making.
>
> Anybody have any suggestion on which would be the best method for
> trouble-free rabbets with minimal problems, Dado blade on my table saw
> or using my router table with a dado or straight bit?
>
> The doors aren't that big, 22" x 14" do they wouldn't be unwieldy for
> either method.
>
> I have no problem going either way, but as, for some reason, I haven't
> had cause to cut any rabbets in a long time and now have both a nice
> Dado blade set (freud) and a new P-C 3-1/4 HP speedmatic router in a
> new cast iron router table extension for my table saw, I figured I
> could go either way and wanted folks opinions on the pros and cons of
> each method.
>
> Any suggestions, opinions, ideas greatly appreciated.
> -Chef Juke
> "EVERYbody Eats when they come to MY house!"
> http://www.chefjuke.com

I use these:
http://www.infinitytools.com/prodinfo.asp?number=00%2D155
But I don't use the router in a table.

Max