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04/10/2005 3:18 PM

Opinions Needed - Vise Location

I'm in the middle of rebuild my shop and need some advice. My main
bench is roughly 12 feet long and completely fills one wall of the
shop. I'm going to install a woodworking vise (didn't have one before)
and am wondering whether to put it in the middle or towards one of the
ends of the bench (and if so, which end). Any thoughts?

Thanks!


This topic has 12 replies

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loutent

in reply to [email protected] on 04/10/2005 3:18 PM

04/10/2005 8:57 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm in the middle of rebuild my shop and need some advice. My main
> bench is roughly 12 feet long and completely fills one wall of the
> shop. I'm going to install a woodworking vise (didn't have one before)
> and am wondering whether to put it in the middle or towards one of the
> ends of the bench (and if so, which end). Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks!
>

Hi Doug,

I built a "mobile bench" about 10 years ago. Shortly
after, I added a woodworkers vise with dog. Not knowing
better, I centered it on the bench (about 24" wide). After
a few months of casual use, I realized the error of my way!

I had a nice 8 inch (or so) overhang on my work side. That's
where I should have put the vise. You have more direct
access for planing, routing etc. If your dogs are in the
center, it's not very useful.

Put it on the side of your work - either end.

Lou

ni

"noonenparticular"

in reply to [email protected] on 04/10/2005 3:18 PM

06/10/2005 1:19 AM

>>
>>The wisdom behind 'following the flock' would be that with a tail vise on
>>the right side (for righties), the pressure from your planing stroke is
>>into
>>the dog that's mounted in the non-moving bench, not into the vise.
>>
>>My $.02 worth.
>>
>>Joe
>>
>
>
> hey, that design is time tested, traditional and the tits for planing.
> I'm not saying it's bad or anything, eh?
>
>
> times have changed. people use more power tools today than they did
> 300 years ago. there's nothing wrong with exploring non- traditional
> bench configurations.

Point well taken, Bridger.

Wasn't bashing any opinions, just throwing some more info into the stew to
help the op.

Be well,

Joe

d

in reply to [email protected] on 04/10/2005 3:18 PM

04/10/2005 7:23 PM

I'm right handed. Should have put that in the initial post.

b

in reply to [email protected] on 04/10/2005 3:18 PM

05/10/2005 5:37 PM


><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I'm in the middle of rebuild my shop and need some advice. My main
>> bench is roughly 12 feet long and completely fills one wall of the
>> shop. I'm going to install a woodworking vise (didn't have one before)
>> and am wondering whether to put it in the middle or towards one of the
>> ends of the bench (and if so, which end). Any thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>

On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 12:12:39 -0700, "Wood Butcher" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Maybe I don't understand your situation since no one else commented
>on this. Your bench completely fills one wall - ergo you have a wall on
>each end of the bench? If so, then putting the vise on either end will not
>facilitate crosscutting very well except for very short pieces.
>
>Art
>

12' is a pretty long bench.
with no ends available, an end vise is out.
if you put one vise in the middle, you'll have 6' on either side. this
is ok for boards up to about 7 feet long. I think I'd put it about 4'
from the left wall. that will be good for boards up to about 9' long
with room to stand past the end of the board.
you'll need something to handle the long end.

spend a bit of time reading:
http://www.workbenchdesign.net/index.html
http://www.jeffgreefwoodworking.com/pnc/ShopProj/TradBnch/
http://www.terraclavis.com/bws/beginners.htm
http://www.geocities.com/plybench/bench.html

DB

Duane Bozarth

in reply to [email protected] on 04/10/2005 3:18 PM

04/10/2005 5:56 PM

[email protected] wrote:
>
> I'm in the middle of rebuild my shop and need some advice. My main
> bench is roughly 12 feet long and completely fills one wall of the
> shop. I'm going to install a woodworking vise (didn't have one before)
> and am wondering whether to put it in the middle or towards one of the
> ends of the bench (and if so, which end). Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks!

Left or right handed?

DB

Duane Bozarth

in reply to [email protected] on 04/10/2005 3:18 PM

04/10/2005 9:24 PM

[email protected] wrote:
>
> I'm right handed. Should have put that in the initial post.

Typically righties mount a standard vise at the right end of the bench
so cross-cutting doesn't interfere. W/ so few using hand tools for much
of anything any more, that's not as big a deal as it once was. But
that's "traditional"

GG

"George"

in reply to [email protected] on 04/10/2005 3:18 PM

06/10/2005 10:34 AM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> hey, that design is time tested, traditional and the tits for planing.
> I'm not saying it's bad or anything, eh?
>
>
> times have changed. people use more power tools today than they did
> 300 years ago. there's nothing wrong with exploring non- traditional
> bench configurations.

Except, you'd be well advised to consider the reason for the conventional
design. Allows a right-hander to stand at the lower left of work being
planed, for example, without having the bench in the way. Even if you're
power-sanding, you'll probably favor the right hand.

ni

"noonenparticular"

in reply to [email protected] on 04/10/2005 3:18 PM

05/10/2005 11:36 AM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 4 Oct 2005 19:23:55 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>I'm right handed. Should have put that in the initial post.
>
>
> conventional placement is:
> for right handers put the face vise to your left and the tail vise at
> the right end.
> for left handers put the face vise to the right an the tail vise on
> the left end.
>
> but you don't have to do the sheep thing. I worked at a bench with two
> face vises a few times. it's a nice layout.

The wisdom behind 'following the flock' would be that with a tail vise on
the right side (for righties), the pressure from your planing stroke is into
the dog that's mounted in the non-moving bench, not into the vise.

My $.02 worth.

Joe

WB

"Wood Butcher"

in reply to [email protected] on 04/10/2005 3:18 PM

05/10/2005 12:12 PM

Maybe I don't understand your situation since no one else commented
on this. Your bench completely fills one wall - ergo you have a wall on
each end of the bench? If so, then putting the vise on either end will not
facilitate crosscutting very well except for very short pieces.

Art

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm in the middle of rebuild my shop and need some advice. My main
> bench is roughly 12 feet long and completely fills one wall of the
> shop. I'm going to install a woodworking vise (didn't have one before)
> and am wondering whether to put it in the middle or towards one of the
> ends of the bench (and if so, which end). Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks!
>

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to [email protected] on 04/10/2005 3:18 PM

05/10/2005 3:39 PM


> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > I'm in the middle of rebuild my shop and need some advice. My main
> > bench is roughly 12 feet long and completely fills one wall of the
> > shop. I'm going to install a woodworking vise (didn't have one before)
> > and am wondering whether to put it in the middle or towards one of the
> > ends of the bench (and if so, which end). Any thoughts?

I'm right handed so I prefer my vises on the left side front of the bench.
Saw with right hand, hold and catch the piece falling off with the left. I
prevents a good deal of splitting off the main piece when being cut.

b

in reply to [email protected] on 04/10/2005 3:18 PM

04/10/2005 7:42 PM

On 4 Oct 2005 19:23:55 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>I'm right handed. Should have put that in the initial post.


conventional placement is:
for right handers put the face vise to your left and the tail vise at
the right end.
for left handers put the face vise to the right an the tail vise on
the left end.

but you don't have to do the sheep thing. I worked at a bench with two
face vises a few times. it's a nice layout.

b

in reply to [email protected] on 04/10/2005 3:18 PM

05/10/2005 5:25 PM

On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 11:36:14 GMT, "noonenparticular"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On 4 Oct 2005 19:23:55 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>I'm right handed. Should have put that in the initial post.
>>
>>
>> conventional placement is:
>> for right handers put the face vise to your left and the tail vise at
>> the right end.
>> for left handers put the face vise to the right an the tail vise on
>> the left end.
>>
>> but you don't have to do the sheep thing. I worked at a bench with two
>> face vises a few times. it's a nice layout.
>
>The wisdom behind 'following the flock' would be that with a tail vise on
>the right side (for righties), the pressure from your planing stroke is into
>the dog that's mounted in the non-moving bench, not into the vise.
>
>My $.02 worth.
>
>Joe
>


hey, that design is time tested, traditional and the tits for planing.
I'm not saying it's bad or anything, eh?


times have changed. people use more power tools today than they did
300 years ago. there's nothing wrong with exploring non- traditional
bench configurations.


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