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Spalted Walt

15/04/2017 4:45 PM

Tommy Mac - rough exit from 'Rough Cut'?


https://www.facebook.com/thomas.j.macdonald/

"Believe it or not ..I will no longer be working on rough cut ..."

"I quit"
He appears bitter about it. He's was pretty terse with some folks who
asked why; something to the effect of, "I don't owe you an explanation."

He must have close to $100K in new Mini Max/SCM tools in the lower
level of that new shop. SCM was also listed as a sponsor at the end
of the show.


This topic has 21 replies

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Sonny

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

16/04/2017 6:19 AM

On Sunday, April 16, 2017 at 7:51:28 AM UTC-5, Spalted Walt wrote:
> >=20
> > Do you have a direct link to that video?
>=20
> What video?
>=20

On the Facebook link, there are videos, one being "Stepstool Student Recap"=
, if this is the video he's talking about. However, it seems the videos a=
re not/no longer functioning, at least for me. Possibly, the videos are =
tied to/owned by "the TV show" and, since he is no longer associated with t=
he show, the videos are no longer viewable, via his Facebook page.

Sonny

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Leon

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

15/04/2017 1:40 PM

On 4/15/2017 1:15 PM, John McGaw wrote:
> On 4/15/2017 12:45 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
>> close to $100K in new Mini Max/SCM tools
>
> If he paid anything for them then he certainly didn't pay retail (or
> wholesale for that matter). Typically, sponsorship means lots of
> freebies for their supposed advertising value. Did he ever figure out
> how to operate any of that stuff? IIRC he had some 'helper' doing that
> technical stuff with the new iron.


He commented in the link that he paid for all of the equipment himself,
but with a killer discount.

Cc

Casper

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

24/04/2017 12:36 PM

>Casper,
>I'm not a relative or his agent and I don't care which state he is from
>I offered him a few words of advice when I met him at one of the
>woodworking shows. To be kind in this context would be to mind your own
>business. That's what I'm doing. You want to argue; please go find
>someone else.
>Bill

To the comment 'which state he is from' [sic], who brought that up?
"Maybe it's partly a "joisey" thing. [sic] <Bill"
I asked what you meant by that to which you did not respond.

>I offered him a few words of advice when I met him...
I hope you enjoyed your meeting.

>To be kind in this context would be to mind your own business.
You do the same? *See above on advice.

>You want to argue; please go find someone else.
Who the hell is argguing? Um, you.

I didn't start this topic.

I don't give a rat's ass what TJM says or does.

Sometimes folks here get too jacked up over simple conversations.

To others here, I apologize if you are offended by my responses which
some folks obviously took out of context.

Walt ... was not my intention to rain on your conversation.

Bill ... whatever. Sorry but I'm all out of rat's asses.

JOKE: Topics not for conversation...
1. Politics
2. Religion
3. Money
4. See 1 & 2
5. TJMac (*New)

SW

Spalted Walt

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

23/04/2017 4:56 PM

Casper <[email protected]> wrote:

> So yesterday my Facebook popped up with a live stream of him working
> on his current desk project. Nice maple writing desk. I asked a couple
> questions, one or two the same as several others, and kinda got blown
> off. When he responded, it was, "I don't friggin' know".

So I just watched the video you're commenting on:
'Desk 30: Fitting lid'
https://www.facebook.com/thomas.j.macdonald/videos/876611712477096/

at 7:27 "How much weight can the hinges and door support?"
TMac responded with "I don't friggin' know".
An honest and totally appropriate answer given in the context of a
live Q&A.

> A different side to him when not in front of a real camera. His feed
> had about 119 viewers at one point, which dropped after he said to
> quit breaking his balls. One comment posted was about keeping his
> greasy fingers (he was stuffing his face with Doritos) off the bare
> wood desk. TMac shot back, "sometimes you need to grease your wood if
> you know what I mean, right?" with a sly grin.

Lighten up, Casper. After watching it, it was kinda funny.

> From that comment, and several others, including that he does
> woodworking because people suck, had me wondering why he was even
> bothering with a live feed. I appreciate his work and him share his
> knowledge, but after comments, people were dropping off. After the
> grease comment, he lost about a third of his viewers.

What you failed to mention is that occured at the end of the braodcast.
Of course people were "dropping off".

TMac is a 'pissah'! I never cared much for 'Rough Cut'. I like the
brash, keeping it real, in your face Tommy Mac much better.
Unforunatly for him, that 'realness' isn't conducive to a PBS TV career.

> I'm no prude and my ears have heard plenty, but it made me wonder if
> that is a reflection of his attitude with Rough Cut and leaving.
>
> Anyways, just sharing what I saw and heard. Make of it what you will.

SW

Spalted Walt

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

16/04/2017 2:23 PM

Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sunday, April 16, 2017 at 7:51:28 AM UTC-5, Spalted Walt wrote:
> > >
> > > Do you have a direct link to that video?
> >
> > What video?
> >
>
> On the Facebook link, there are videos, one being "Stepstool Student
> Recap", if this is the video he's talking about. However, it seems
> the videos are not/no longer functioning, at least for me.

works for me:
<https://www.facebook.com/thomas.j.macdonald/videos/vb.432280676910204/868010623337205/?type=2&theater>
<https://www.facebook.com/pg/thomas.j.macdonald/videos/?ref=page_internal>

Real shitty room-acoustics in the vid IMO. Needs to dampen the
annoying echo, bigly.

> Possibly, the videos are tied to/owned by "the TV show" and, since he
> is no longer associated with the show, the videos are no longer
> viewable, via his Facebook page.

I doubt PBS or "the TV show" will do anything about the current vids
on his personal FB, however these could soon disappear from T Mac's
website... (maybe):

http://tommymac.us/rough-cut-woodworking-with-tommy-mac/rough-cut-season-07/
http://tommymac.us/rough-cut-woodworking-with-tommy-mac/rough-cut-season-06/
http://tommymac.us/rough-cut-woodworking-with-tommy-mac/rough-cut-season-05/
http://tommymac.us/rough-cut-woodworking-with-tommy-mac/rough-cut-season-04/
http://tommymac.us/rough-cut-woodworking-with-tommy-mac/rough-cut-season-03/
http://tommymac.us/rough-cut-woodworking-with-tommy-mac/rough-cut-season-02/
http://tommymac.us/rough-cut-woodworking-with-tommy-mac/rough-cut-season-01/

Cc

Casper

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

26/04/2017 9:30 PM

>> Sometimes folks here get too jacked up over simple conversations.
>Project much? ;)
Nah.

>> Walt ... was not my intention to rain on your conversation.
>Lighten up, Casper ... it's only usenet.
Yup.

Been a bad week. MiL got robbed while sitting in her car. Purse,
phone, money, meds, all gone. During that Gma taken to hospital.

Cc

Casper

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

22/04/2017 1:28 PM

>"Believe it or not ..I will no longer be working on rough cut ..."
>"I quit"
>https://www.facebook.com/thomas.j.macdonald/
>He appears bitter about it. He's was pretty terse with some folks who
>asked why; something to the effect of, "I don't owe you an explanation."
>He must have close to $100K in new Mini Max/SCM tools in the lower
>level of that new shop. SCM was also listed as a sponsor at the end
>of the show...Spalted Walt

So yesterday my Facebook popped up with a live stream of him working
on his current desk project. Nice maple writing desk. I asked a couple
questions, one or two the same as several others, and kinda got blown
off. When he responded, it was, "I don't friggin' know".

A different side to him when not in front of a real camera. His feed
had about 119 viewers at one point, which dropped after he said to
quit breaking his balls. One comment posted was about keeping his
greasy fingers (he was stuffing his face with Doritos) off the bare
wood desk. TMac shot back, "sometimes you need to grease your wood if
you know what I mean, right?" with a sly grin.

From that comment, and several others, including that he does
woodworking because people suck, had me wondering why he was even
bothering with a live feed. I appreciate his work and him share his
knowledge, but after comments, people were dropping off. After the
grease comment, he lost about a third of his viewers.

I'm no prude and my ears have heard plenty, but it made me wonder if
that is a reflection of his attitude with Rough Cut and leaving.

Anyways, just sharing what I saw and heard. Make of it what you will.

Cc

Casper

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

24/04/2017 11:16 AM

Spalted Walt <[email protected]> was heard to mutter:

>at 7:27 "How much weight can the hinges and door support?"
>TMac responded with "I don't friggin' know".
>An honest and totally appropriate answer given in the context of a
>live Q&A.
Saying I don't know was not the point. It was the expletive.

>Lighten up, Casper. After watching it, it was kinda funny.
Lighten up? Defensive much? I didn't say anything negative.

>What you failed to mention is that occured at the end of the braodcast.
>Of course people were "dropping off".
Not just at the end. But I was surprised he didn't have more FB
viewers given how popular his RC show seemed to be.

>TMac is a 'pissah'! I never cared much for 'Rough Cut'. I like the
>brash, keeping it real, in your face Tommy Mac much better.
Good for you. It's a free world.

>Unforunatly for him, that 'realness' isn't conducive to a PBS TV career.
Exactly my point. My only point.

>> Anyways, just sharing what I saw and heard. Make of it what you will.
Yet again... make of it what YOU will.

Cc

Casper

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

23/04/2017 11:41 AM

Bill <[email protected]> was heard to mutter:
>Maybe he is just a little pissed about the "change in life direction"
>that was forced on him. Cut him a little slack. Maybe it's partly a
>"joisey" thing.

From posts here and FB, he's keeping his reason to himself, which is
his right. Pissed? I guess. He said he quit, so pissed about what?

Slack? I don't care how he talks. Just saying he'll lose viewers. Even
guys doing YouTube avoid it so kids don't overhear or lose viewers.

"Joisey"? Elaborate. TMac is from Mass.

Oo

OFWW

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

15/04/2017 10:01 PM

On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:45:24 +0000, Spalted Walt
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>https://www.facebook.com/thomas.j.macdonald/
>
>"Believe it or not ..I will no longer be working on rough cut ..."
>
>"I quit"
>He appears bitter about it. He's was pretty terse with some folks who
>asked why; something to the effect of, "I don't owe you an explanation."
>
>He must have close to $100K in new Mini Max/SCM tools in the lower
>level of that new shop. SCM was also listed as a sponsor at the end
>of the show.

Do you have a direct link to that video?

I watched one video of a step stool class he had. It was certainly a
different perspective on him and his style. His classes are not cheap,
the student appeared to think it was all worthwhile for all the
ancillary training that went with the project.

SW

Spalted Walt

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

23/04/2017 5:18 PM

Casper <[email protected]> wrote:

> Bill <[email protected]> was heard to mutter:
> >Maybe he is just a little pissed about the "change in life direction"
> >that was forced on him. Cut him a little slack. Maybe it's partly a
> >"joisey" thing.
>
> From posts here and FB, he's keeping his reason to himself, which is
> his right. Pissed? I guess. He said he quit, so pissed about what?

He's apparently under a 1 year gag order:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/thomas.j.macdonald/posts/?ref=page_internal

"Tommy Mac (replying to) Denny... I left u hanging .. u said I
was unfair to you .. All i did was lose a job and be forced
to eat shit and be under a gag order for a year ... I don't
owe you . anything ....
Watch ..don't watch ..."
April 21 at 5:37am

> Slack? I don't care how he talks. Just saying he'll lose viewers. Even
> guys doing YouTube avoid it so kids don't overhear or lose viewers.
>
> "Joisey"? Elaborate. TMac is from Mass.

SW

Spalted Walt

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

16/04/2017 12:51 PM

OFWW <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:45:24 +0000, Spalted Walt
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >https://www.facebook.com/thomas.j.macdonald/
> >
> >"Believe it or not ..I will no longer be working on rough cut ..."
> >
> >"I quit"
> >He appears bitter about it. He's was pretty terse with some folks who
> >asked why; something to the effect of, "I don't owe you an explanation."
> >
> >He must have close to $100K in new Mini Max/SCM tools in the lower
> >level of that new shop. SCM was also listed as a sponsor at the end
> >of the show.
>
> Do you have a direct link to that video?

What video?

Here's a direct link to his April 7, FB post:
https://www.facebook.com/thomas.j.macdonald/posts/867368610068073

A post on April 13 to Rough Cut's FB kinda confirms:
https://www.facebook.com/RoughCutTv/posts/1429721180404710

> I watched one video of a step stool class he had. It was certainly a
> different perspective on him and his style. His classes are not cheap,
> the student appeared to think it was all worthwhile for all the
> ancillary training that went with the project.

k

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

26/04/2017 10:11 PM

On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 21:30:40 -0400, Casper <[email protected]>
wrote:

>>> Sometimes folks here get too jacked up over simple conversations.
>>Project much? ;)
>Nah.
>
>>> Walt ... was not my intention to rain on your conversation.
>>Lighten up, Casper ... it's only usenet.
>Yup.
>
>Been a bad week. MiL got robbed while sitting in her car. Purse,
>phone, money, meds, all gone. During that Gma taken to hospital.

What, you upset that they didn't take her too?

Cc

Casper

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

24/04/2017 11:07 AM

Spalted Walt <[email protected]> was heard to mutter:
>He's apparently under a 1 year gag order:
>https://www.facebook.com/pg/thomas.j.macdonald/posts/?ref=page_internal
>
>"Tommy Mac (replying to) Denny... I left u hanging .. u said I
>was unfair to you .. All i did was lose a job and be forced
>to eat shit and be under a gag order for a year ... I don't
>owe you . anything ....
>Watch ..don't watch ..."
>April 21 at 5:37am

I figured he was sentanced to silence by his lack of words.

BB

Bill

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

22/04/2017 11:28 PM

Casper wrote:
>> "Believe it or not ..I will no longer be working on rough cut ..."
>> "I quit"
>> https://www.facebook.com/thomas.j.macdonald/
>> He appears bitter about it. He's was pretty terse with some folks who
>> asked why; something to the effect of, "I don't owe you an explanation."
>> He must have close to $100K in new Mini Max/SCM tools in the lower
>> level of that new shop. SCM was also listed as a sponsor at the end
>> of the show...Spalted Walt
> So yesterday my Facebook popped up with a live stream of him working
> on his current desk project. Nice maple writing desk. I asked a couple
> questions, one or two the same as several others, and kinda got blown
> off. When he responded, it was, "I don't friggin' know".
>
> A different side to him when not in front of a real camera. His feed
> had about 119 viewers at one point, which dropped after he said to
> quit breaking his balls. One comment posted was about keeping his
> greasy fingers (he was stuffing his face with Doritos) off the bare
> wood desk. TMac shot back, "sometimes you need to grease your wood if
> you know what I mean, right?" with a sly grin.
>
> From that comment, and several others, including that he does
> woodworking because people suck, had me wondering why he was even
> bothering with a live feed. I appreciate his work and him share his
> knowledge, but after comments, people were dropping off. After the
> grease comment, he lost about a third of his viewers.
>
> I'm no prude and my ears have heard plenty, but it made me wonder if
> that is a reflection of his attitude with Rough Cut and leaving.
>
> Anyways, just sharing what I saw and heard. Make of it what you will.

Maybe he is just a little pissed about the "change in life direction"
that was forced on him. Cut him a little slack. Maybe it's partly a
"joisey" thing.

BB

Bill

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

23/04/2017 9:04 PM

Casper wrote:
> Bill <[email protected]> was heard to mutter:
>> Maybe he is just a little pissed about the "change in life direction"
>> that was forced on him. Cut him a little slack. Maybe it's partly a
>> "joisey" thing.
> From posts here and FB, he's keeping his reason to himself, which is
> his right. Pissed? I guess. He said he quit, so pissed about what?
>
> Slack? I don't care how he talks. Just saying he'll lose viewers. Even
> guys doing YouTube avoid it so kids don't overhear or lose viewers.
>
> "Joisey"? Elaborate. TMac is from Mass.
Casper,

I'm not a relative or his agent and I don't care which state he is from
I offered him a few words of advice when I met him at one of the
woodworking shows. To be kind in this context would be to mind your own
business. That's what I'm doing. You want to argue; please go find
someone else.

Bill

Cc

Casper

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

24/04/2017 11:08 AM

Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> was heard to mutter:
>He may also be losing chances for the future too, if he is interested in
>a new venture. Image in important.

That was my simple and only point.

SW

Spalted Walt

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

24/04/2017 8:58 PM

Casper <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I didn't start this topic.
>
> I don't give a rat's ass what TJM says or does.
>
> Sometimes folks here get too jacked up over simple conversations.

Project much? ;)

> To others here, I apologize if you are offended by my responses which
> some folks obviously took out of context.
>
> Walt ... was not my intention to rain on your conversation.

Lighten up, Casper ... it's only usenet.

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

23/04/2017 2:18 PM

On 4/23/2017 11:41 AM, Casper wrote:
> Bill <[email protected]> was heard to mutter:
>> Maybe he is just a little pissed about the "change in life direction"
>> that was forced on him. Cut him a little slack. Maybe it's partly a
>> "joisey" thing.
>
> From posts here and FB, he's keeping his reason to himself, which is
> his right. Pissed? I guess. He said he quit, so pissed about what?
>
> Slack? I don't care how he talks. Just saying he'll lose viewers. Even
> guys doing YouTube avoid it so kids don't overhear or lose viewers.
>
> "Joisey"? Elaborate. TMac is from Mass.
>

He may also be losing chances for the future too, if he is interested in
a new venture. Image in important.

JM

John McGaw

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

15/04/2017 2:15 PM

On 4/15/2017 12:45 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
> close to $100K in new Mini Max/SCM tools

If he paid anything for them then he certainly didn't pay retail (or
wholesale for that matter). Typically, sponsorship means lots of freebies
for their supposed advertising value. Did he ever figure out how to operate
any of that stuff? IIRC he had some 'helper' doing that technical stuff
with the new iron.

Oo

OFWW

in reply to Spalted Walt on 15/04/2017 4:45 PM

16/04/2017 9:16 PM

On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 12:51:22 +0000, Spalted Walt
<[email protected]> wrote:

>OFWW <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:45:24 +0000, Spalted Walt
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >https://www.facebook.com/thomas.j.macdonald/
>> >
>> >"Believe it or not ..I will no longer be working on rough cut ..."
>> >
>> >"I quit"
>> >He appears bitter about it. He's was pretty terse with some folks who
>> >asked why; something to the effect of, "I don't owe you an explanation."
>> >
>> >He must have close to $100K in new Mini Max/SCM tools in the lower
>> >level of that new shop. SCM was also listed as a sponsor at the end
>> >of the show.
>>
>> Do you have a direct link to that video?
>
>What video?
>

My misunderstanding, from the descriptive post you made it seemed like
there was more than just that one comment.

Thanks for taking the time for the direct links. I don't have a
facebook account so its rough to look around at times.

>Here's a direct link to his April 7, FB post:
>https://www.facebook.com/thomas.j.macdonald/posts/867368610068073
>
>A post on April 13 to Rough Cut's FB kinda confirms:
>https://www.facebook.com/RoughCutTv/posts/1429721180404710
>
>> I watched one video of a step stool class he had. It was certainly a
>> different perspective on him and his style. His classes are not cheap,
>> the student appeared to think it was all worthwhile for all the
>> ancillary training that went with the project.


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