Ok. My rails are just over 3/4" thick and the groove for the panel
will be 1/4" wide on center. That only leaves a little over 1/4" to
attach the molding to the rail around the panel. The molding will sit
on the panel and be flush with the rail. How would you attach it? I
am worried that if I use glue some squeeze out will get on the panel,
gluing the molding to the rail and the panel (cross grain problem). I
don't like using nails, however a pinner might be the best way to do
this (unfortunately, I don't own a pinner).
What would ya do here? The molding is a customer request. I would
prefer not to use it.
"GarageWoodworks" wrote:
> Ok. My rails are just over 3/4" thick and the groove for the panel
> will be 1/4" wide on center. That only leaves a little over 1/4" to
> attach the molding to the rail around the panel. The molding will
> sit
> on the panel and be flush with the rail. How would you attach it?
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Must have missed Norm's recent kitchen job.
He loved his pin nailer (23 ga) to hold trim while the glue dried, for
this task.
Lew
"GarageWoodworks" wrote:
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I miss Nahmie! Still got him on Youtube.
The smallest brad I can shoot is 18 ga. Santa had to give me the
finger this year.
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He still appears on reruns if you have access to Create.TV
Understand your problem, but might want to take a look at H/F for a
low cost pin nailer.
No direct experience but others on Wrec seem satisfied.
Lew
On Jan 6, 9:31=A0pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Ok. =A0My rails are just over 3/4" thick and the groove for the panel
> will be 1/4" wide on center. =A0That only leaves a little over 1/4" to
> attach the molding to the rail around the panel. =A0The molding will sit
> on the panel and be flush with the rail. =A0How would you attach it? =A0I
> am worried that if I use glue some squeeze out will get on the panel,
> gluing the molding to the rail and the panel (cross grain problem). =A0I
> don't like using nails, however a pinner might be the best way to do
> this (unfortunately, I don't own a pinner).
>
> What would ya do here? =A0The molding is a customer request. =A0I would
> prefer not to use it.
Thanks for the help everyone!
"GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ok. My rails are just over 3/4" thick and the groove for the panel
> will be 1/4" wide on center. That only leaves a little over 1/4" to
> attach the molding to the rail around the panel. The molding will sit
> on the panel and be flush with the rail. How would you attach it? I
> am worried that if I use glue some squeeze out will get on the panel,
> gluing the molding to the rail and the panel (cross grain problem). I
> don't like using nails, however a pinner might be the best way to do
> this (unfortunately, I don't own a pinner).
>
> What would ya do here? The molding is a customer request. I would
> prefer not to use it.
I would only pin it, but since your funds are better used for other thinks
these days, Use clear super glue, gel "IF" there is squeeze out it will
not show.
On Jan 6, 10:13=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "GarageWoodworks" wrote:
> > Ok. =A0My rails are just over 3/4" thick and the groove for the panel
> > will be 1/4" wide on center. =A0That only leaves a little over 1/4" to
> > attach the molding to the rail around the panel. =A0The molding will
> > sit
> > on the panel and be flush with the rail. =A0How would you attach it?
>
> <snip>
>
> Must have missed Norm's recent kitchen job.
>
> He loved his pin nailer (23 ga) to hold trim while the glue dried, for
> this task.
>
> Lew
I miss Nahmie! Still got him on Youtube.
The smallest brad I can shoot is 18 ga. Santa had to give me the
finger this year.
Are you pre-finishing the panels.? You could always apply a good coat
of wax the surfaces you don't want sticking together and if the panels
aren't pre-finished paint thinner should remove the wax.. That might
increase your odds of trim staying with rail and stiles and not panel..
On 1/6/2010 7:16 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
> On Jan 6, 9:46 pm, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 1/6/2010 8:31 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>>
>>> Ok. My rails are just over 3/4" thick and the groove for the panel
>>> will be 1/4" wide on center. That only leaves a little over 1/4" to
>>> attach the molding to the rail around the panel. The molding will sit
>>> on the panel and be flush with the rail. How would you attach it? I
>>> am worried that if I use glue some squeeze out will get on the panel,
>>> gluing the molding to the rail and the panel (cross grain problem). I
>>> don't like using nails, however a pinner might be the best way to do
>>> this (unfortunately, I don't own a pinner).
>>
>>> What would ya do here? The molding is a customer request. I would
>>> prefer not to use it.
>>
>> Personally, wouldn't hesitate to glue the molding to the rail, and
>> attach it with pin's " 'til the glue dries".
>>
>> This is pretty standard trim stuff, and the perfect excuse to get a
>> pinner. You won't be sorry.
>>
>> --www.e-woodshop.net
>> Last update: 10/22/08
>> KarlC@ (the obvious)
>
> Unfortunately, funds are a little dry lately. So I should be ok with
> just a thin film of glue? If I do have a little squeeze out onto the
> panel (going cross grain), I'm guessing the panel will eventually
> break free from the molding as it moves with the seasons. Am I
> worrying about nothing here? I'm usually not a molding or trim guy,
> ok, sometimes a little trim :^)
>
On Jan 6, 9:46=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/6/2010 8:31 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
> > Ok. =A0My rails are just over 3/4" thick and the groove for the panel
> > will be 1/4" wide on center. =A0That only leaves a little over 1/4" to
> > attach the molding to the rail around the panel. =A0The molding will si=
t
> > on the panel and be flush with the rail. =A0How would you attach it? =
=A0I
> > am worried that if I use glue some squeeze out will get on the panel,
> > gluing the molding to the rail and the panel (cross grain problem). =A0=
I
> > don't like using nails, however a pinner might be the best way to do
> > this (unfortunately, I don't own a pinner).
>
> > What would ya do here? =A0The molding is a customer request. =A0I would
> > prefer not to use it.
>
> Personally, wouldn't hesitate to glue the molding to the rail, and
> attach it with pin's " 'til the glue dries".
>
> This is pretty standard trim stuff, and the perfect excuse to get a
> pinner. You won't be sorry.
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
Unfortunately, funds are a little dry lately. So I should be ok with
just a thin film of glue? If I do have a little squeeze out onto the
panel (going cross grain), I'm guessing the panel will eventually
break free from the molding as it moves with the seasons. Am I
worrying about nothing here? I'm usually not a molding or trim guy,
ok, sometimes a little trim :^)
Predrill it and use a small hammer and brads.
On Jan 6, 6:31=A0pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Ok. =A0My rails are just over 3/4" thick and the groove for the panel
> will be 1/4" wide on center. =A0That only leaves a little over 1/4" to
> attach the molding to the rail around the panel. =A0The molding will sit
> on the panel and be flush with the rail. =A0How would you attach it? =A0I
> am worried that if I use glue some squeeze out will get on the panel,
> gluing the molding to the rail and the panel (cross grain problem). =A0I
> don't like using nails, however a pinner might be the best way to do
> this (unfortunately, I don't own a pinner).
>
> What would ya do here? =A0The molding is a customer request. =A0I would
> prefer not to use it.
> Are you pre-finishing the panels.? You could always apply a good coat of
> wax the surfaces you don't want sticking together and if the panels aren't
> pre-finished paint thinner should remove the wax.. That might increase
> your odds of trim staying with rail and stiles and not panel..
>
Ditto. prefinish + wax.
I take this one step further and prefinish the edges of the stiles and rails
contacting the pannels. This solves the problem of finish wicking into the
pannel grove when finishing the rails and stiles.
I tend to wipe on finishes and this works well for me. I immagine it would
be less handy if spraying
Regards,
Steve
On 1/6/2010 8:31 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
> Ok. My rails are just over 3/4" thick and the groove for the panel
> will be 1/4" wide on center. That only leaves a little over 1/4" to
> attach the molding to the rail around the panel. The molding will sit
> on the panel and be flush with the rail. How would you attach it? I
> am worried that if I use glue some squeeze out will get on the panel,
> gluing the molding to the rail and the panel (cross grain problem). I
> don't like using nails, however a pinner might be the best way to do
> this (unfortunately, I don't own a pinner).
>
> What would ya do here? The molding is a customer request. I would
> prefer not to use it.
Personally, wouldn't hesitate to glue the molding to the rail, and
attach it with pin's " 'til the glue dries".
This is pretty standard trim stuff, and the perfect excuse to get a
pinner. You won't be sorry.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 20:46:00 -0600, the infamous Swingman
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>On 1/6/2010 8:31 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
>> Ok. My rails are just over 3/4" thick and the groove for the panel
>> will be 1/4" wide on center. That only leaves a little over 1/4" to
>> attach the molding to the rail around the panel. The molding will sit
>> on the panel and be flush with the rail. How would you attach it? I
>> am worried that if I use glue some squeeze out will get on the panel,
>> gluing the molding to the rail and the panel (cross grain problem). I
>> don't like using nails, however a pinner might be the best way to do
>> this (unfortunately, I don't own a pinner).
>>
>> What would ya do here? The molding is a customer request. I would
>> prefer not to use it.
>
>Personally, wouldn't hesitate to glue the molding to the rail, and
>attach it with pin's " 'til the glue dries".
>
>This is pretty standard trim stuff, and the perfect excuse to get a
>pinner. You won't be sorry.
I'm poifectly happy with mine. http://fwd4.me/AWO $17 on sale.
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