Schutte Lumber http://www.schuttelumber.com/default.shtm
in Kansas City, Missouri was pretty much the only place in KC to get
many wood products. It had a large selection of hardwoods and supplied
cedar in dimensions unavailable elsewhere. It just burned.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/10/13/lumber.fire.ap/
The building that contained all the expensive hardwood escaped
destruction, but the place is, of course, closed and the fire destroyed
a staggering amount of softwood, including cedar.
Two other recent KC area fires were probably caused by arson
http://www.kctv5.com/Global/story.asp?S=1479042&nav=1PuZIU6S
Many people in the remodeling/construction business in this area
depended on Schutte. Shipping wood here is too inconvenient for many
small businesses.
The person who did this is a pyro who is now hooked on seeing lumber
yards go up.
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http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/
No stranger to disaster, Schutte plans to reopen
By GLENN E. RICE and ERIN FITZGERALD The Kansas City Star
Schutte Lumber Co. has persevered through fires and floods in its
123-year history in Kansas City.
This weekend's fire will be no different, a company executive said.
"We look forward to being able to clean up and getting back into
business in a reasonable time," Stacy Fyock, chief financial officer for
Schutte, said Sunday as fire crews doused hot spots left from the blaze.
It is not known when the business will reopen. Fyock said it would take
several days before work crews would be able to enter the buildings to
assess the damage.
"It's premature for us to say a lot," Fyock said. "We want to be able to
go in and see what we have."
Schutte Lumber provides specialty service to dozens of commercial
contractors, construction companies, area lumberyards and even the
novice weekend home remodeler.
It is one of only a handful of regional lumberyards that provide
specialty plywood and other wood products. Fyock said Schutte offers an
assortment of hard-to-find wood products such as exotic hardwood,
specialty plywood and composite decking.
The company has a customer base that extends from Omaha to the north,
Topeka and Manhattan to the west; Columbia to the east and Clinton, Mo.,
to the south, Fyock said.
The company receives its materials from Georgia Pacific and a number of
other national and regional lumber mills, Fyock said. The company also
supplies lumber to several area lumberyards and specialty stores.
The company enjoys a rich history in the city, mostly as a family-owned
business.
Founded in 1880 by grocer Sigismund Z. Schutte, the company originally
was at the southeast corner of 16th and McGee streets.
In 1902, the yard moved to the northeast corner of 25th Street and Grand
Avenue. Then in 1923, the company purchased land on Southwest Boulevard.
At the turn of the century, Schutte's son, Victor, joined his father in
the family business. Victor's two half-brothers, Louis and Carl Schutte,
also came on board.
An article in the Aug. 20, 1950, edition of The Kansas City Star
described the company as one of the largest of its type in the United
States, supplying goods to about 3,000 retail lumber dealers in
Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, Nebraska and Iowa.
Victor Schutte eventually took over the family business, and after his
death in 1951, his wife, Caroline, ran the company.
Fuhrman & Co., a holding company, purchased Schutte Lumber from the
Schutte Trust in 1997. The trust had been overseeing the operation of
the company since Caroline Schutte died in 1993.
Disasters are nothing new to Schutte.
In 1936, fire destroyed the company's planing mill on Southwest
Boulevard. Losses were estimated at $25,000.
More than a decade later, in 1949, a fire damaged 40,000 to 50,000
square feet of lumber.
A more extensive fire broke out in July 1951 after a flood that same
month put much of the company's facility under water.
The flood of October 1998 also damaged the company's facilities.
The Star's Edward M. Eveld contributed to this report.
To reach Glenn E. Rice, call (816) 234-5908 or send e-mail to
[email protected].
To reach Erin Fitzgerald, call (816) 234-7722 or send e-mail to
[email protected].
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* Nehmo Sergheyev *
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"DexAZ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hope they can get it all cleaned up and rebuild. Tough to find a real
> lumberyard these days.
>
> Seems I heard of a string of condos-under-construction fires out in the
San
> Diego area recently too. Those and the rash of SUV (HUMMER) dealership
> fires nationwide are thought to be the work of some eco-terrorists. Maybe
> they are after lumberyards now too? "save the rain forests etc"
And maybe it's insurance fraud, or maybe vandalism, or maybe a fire
investigator on parole, or it could be revenge, or good 'ole American
enterprise eliminating competition -- oh, and it could be accidental, or
lightning, or even Al Queda -- not to mention the Mafia, Hell's Angels,
Aryan Brotherhood and a host of other domestic fire "arrangers". And that's
not even counting the interplanetary arsonists.
Remember all the Middle-easterners detained while Timothy McVeigh was
driving away in a pickup? So let's all run right out and blame someone,
confident that we have at least as much chance as winning a lottery.
Hope they can get it all cleaned up and rebuild. Tough to find a real
lumberyard these days.
Seems I heard of a string of condos-under-construction fires out in the San
Diego area recently too. Those and the rash of SUV (HUMMER) dealership
fires nationwide are thought to be the work of some eco-terrorists. Maybe
they are after lumberyards now too? "save the rain forests etc"
DexAZ
"Earth _first_
we'll mine the other planets later" bumpersticker on back of SUV coming out
of big condo development up in Scottsdale, AZ
- Dan Hartung -
> > Note that some studies show mental disorder as an underlying cause
in
> > under 10 percent of arsonists. The sexual-release analogue of
pyromania
> > -- often depicted in movies -- is actually very rare. In the current
> > DSM-IV, pyromania is only diagnosed when no other syndrome can be
> > identified to explain it, e.g. schizophrenia-based paranoia,
antisocial
> > disorder (fka "psychopathy") [which would imply aggressive anger
against
> > a specific target], or histrionic disorder [applied to
attention-seekers].
- Hopper -
> Which is a rather curious way to say it. I'm fascinated at the DSM
> definition of pyromania as you've written. I am puzzled by one thing:
it
> seems that ten percent is awful low. But perhaps I'm viewing it in the
wrong
> light. To clarify, you're saying that true anti-social causes for
arson or
> mental disorder are the minority of arson cases, with the balance
being
> things like revenge or insurance fraud?
>
> I don't mean to sound like I'm arguing with you (since this is more
towards
> the studies you've mentioned), but wouldn't a person almost by
definition
> have a mental disorder if they set fires with the express purpose of
> destroying something?
- Nehmo -
Don't confuse DSM-IV classifications with science. They're really just a
psycho-babble way to put a derogatory label on somebody. Who has a
"disorder" and who doesn't is not clearly defined. But aside form that,
yes, setting fires, by this classification system, can mean a disorder
that stands on its own. See the "coding note" below.
DSM-IV Criteria for Mental Disorders
http://www.geocities.com/morrison94/
Impulse control disorders
http://www.geocities.com/morrison94/adjust.htm
Pyromania
http://www.geocities.com/morrison94/adjust.htm#Pyro
"Pyromania
· More than once, the patient has deliberately and purposefully set
fires.
· Before the fire-setting, the patient experiences tension or excited
mood.
· The patient is interested in or attracted to fire and its
circumstances and associations (such as firefighting apparatus, uses or
aftermath of fire).
· The patient experiences gratification, pleasure or relief when setting
fires or experiencing their consequences.
· These fires are not set:
for profit
to express a political agenda
to conceal crimes
to express anger or revenge
to improve the patient's living circumstances
in response to a delusion or hallucination
as a result of impaired judgment*
· The fire-setting is not better explained by Antisocial Personality
Disorder, Conduct Disorder or Manic Episode.
Coding Note
*Of course, setting any fire at all would usually be interpreted as
evidence of impaired judgment. What this criterion tries to express is
the faulty judgment usually associated with other Axis I disorders as
dementia, Mental Retardation and Substance Intoxication."
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* Nehmo Sergheyev *
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Nehmo Sergheyev wrote:
> Schutte Lumber http://www.schuttelumber.com/default.shtm
> in Kansas City, Missouri was pretty much the only place in KC to get
> many wood products. It had a large selection of hardwoods and supplied
> cedar in dimensions unavailable elsewhere. It just burned.
> http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/10/13/lumber.fire.ap/
About 30 years ago, a local lumberyard burned; for at least a decade
afterward, the sales office across the street retained its heat-warped
vinyl window shutters.
> The person who did this is a pyro who is now hooked on seeing lumber
> yards go up.
Speculation. Arson is in many ways a crime of opportunity. Firebugs are
often more interested in the community response than the destruction
itself. Compulsive arsonists, such as the one we had setting fires for
about three years before caught, seem to be happy with even unsuccessful
fires, e.g. a burned doorway.
Note that some studies show mental disorder as an underlying cause in
under 10 percent of arsonists. The sexual-release analogue of pyromania
-- often depicted in movies -- is actually very rare. In the current
DSM-IV, pyromania is only diagnosed when no other syndrome can be
identified to explain it, e.g. schizophrenia-based paranoia, antisocial
disorder (fka "psychopathy") [which would imply aggressive anger against
a specific target], or histrionic disorder [applied to attention-seekers].
"DexAZ" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Hope they can get it all cleaned up and rebuild. Tough to find a real
> lumberyard these days.
>
> Seems I heard of a string of condos-under-construction fires out in the San
> Diego area recently too. Those and the rash of SUV (HUMMER) dealership
> fires nationwide are thought to be the work of some eco-terrorists. Maybe
> they are after lumberyards now too? "save the rain forests etc"
>
While the Earth Firsters I have known stuck me as not very bright I'm
doubtful that they would be able to come up with a justification for
torching a lumberyard.
Then again, like I said, they weren't very bright.
--
FF
Well put Lou.
--
Semper Fi & God Bless America,
Gary-US MCNGP #20 & retired Jarhead
http://www.mcngp.tk
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help
** STUPID DOG !! **
"Lou W" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:vzCib.17417$hp5.15541@fed1read04...
>
> "DexAZ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hope they can get it all cleaned up and rebuild. Tough to find a real
> > lumberyard these days.
> >
> > Seems I heard of a string of condos-under-construction fires out in the
> San
> > Diego area recently too. Those and the rash of SUV (HUMMER) dealership
> > fires nationwide are thought to be the work of some eco-terrorists.
Maybe
> > they are after lumberyards now too? "save the rain forests etc"
> >
>
> Calling someone an "eco-terrorist" makes about as much sense as
> calling a junkie a "recreational heroin user". These assholes are
Terrorists
> plain and simple. The only difference between ELF and Al Queda is that Elf
> has not killed any human beings YET. At least not that I am aware of. They
> will fuck up and people will die eventually. Maybe then the rest of the
> masses will see them for what they really are.........terrorists. The only
> good terrorists are dead ones.
>
> Lou
>
> > DexAZ
> >
> > "Earth _first_
> > we'll mine the other planets later" bumpersticker on back of SUV coming
> out
> > of big condo development up in Scottsdale, AZ
> >
> >
>
>
>
You gotta wonder, I have heard that a fire in a large OSB plant is the
reason for high OSB prices too. Hope they can catch the worthless SOB's!
"Nehmo Sergheyev" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:rGBib.26448$%[email protected]...
> Schutte Lumber http://www.schuttelumber.com/default.shtm
> in Kansas City, Missouri was pretty much the only place in KC to get
> many wood products. It had a large selection of hardwoods and supplied
> cedar in dimensions unavailable elsewhere. It just burned.
> http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/10/13/lumber.fire.ap/
>
> The building that contained all the expensive hardwood escaped
> destruction, but the place is, of course, closed and the fire destroyed
> a staggering amount of softwood, including cedar.
>
> Two other recent KC area fires were probably caused by arson
> http://www.kctv5.com/Global/story.asp?S=1479042&nav=1PuZIU6S
>
> Many people in the remodeling/construction business in this area
> depended on Schutte. Shipping wood here is too inconvenient for many
> small businesses.
>
> The person who did this is a pyro who is now hooked on seeing lumber
> yards go up.
>
> [To see KC Star articles, you need to register and then search. The full
> article is below.]
> http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/
> No stranger to disaster, Schutte plans to reopen
> By GLENN E. RICE and ERIN FITZGERALD The Kansas City Star
>
> Schutte Lumber Co. has persevered through fires and floods in its
> 123-year history in Kansas City.
> This weekend's fire will be no different, a company executive said.
> "We look forward to being able to clean up and getting back into
> business in a reasonable time," Stacy Fyock, chief financial officer for
> Schutte, said Sunday as fire crews doused hot spots left from the blaze.
>
> It is not known when the business will reopen. Fyock said it would take
> several days before work crews would be able to enter the buildings to
> assess the damage.
> "It's premature for us to say a lot," Fyock said. "We want to be able to
> go in and see what we have."
> Schutte Lumber provides specialty service to dozens of commercial
> contractors, construction companies, area lumberyards and even the
> novice weekend home remodeler.
>
> It is one of only a handful of regional lumberyards that provide
> specialty plywood and other wood products. Fyock said Schutte offers an
> assortment of hard-to-find wood products such as exotic hardwood,
> specialty plywood and composite decking.
> The company has a customer base that extends from Omaha to the north,
> Topeka and Manhattan to the west; Columbia to the east and Clinton, Mo.,
> to the south, Fyock said.
>
> The company receives its materials from Georgia Pacific and a number of
> other national and regional lumber mills, Fyock said. The company also
> supplies lumber to several area lumberyards and specialty stores.
>
> The company enjoys a rich history in the city, mostly as a family-owned
> business.
> Founded in 1880 by grocer Sigismund Z. Schutte, the company originally
> was at the southeast corner of 16th and McGee streets.
> In 1902, the yard moved to the northeast corner of 25th Street and Grand
> Avenue. Then in 1923, the company purchased land on Southwest Boulevard.
> At the turn of the century, Schutte's son, Victor, joined his father in
> the family business. Victor's two half-brothers, Louis and Carl Schutte,
> also came on board.
> An article in the Aug. 20, 1950, edition of The Kansas City Star
> described the company as one of the largest of its type in the United
> States, supplying goods to about 3,000 retail lumber dealers in
> Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, Nebraska and Iowa.
> Victor Schutte eventually took over the family business, and after his
> death in 1951, his wife, Caroline, ran the company.
> Fuhrman & Co., a holding company, purchased Schutte Lumber from the
> Schutte Trust in 1997. The trust had been overseeing the operation of
> the company since Caroline Schutte died in 1993.
>
> Disasters are nothing new to Schutte.
> In 1936, fire destroyed the company's planing mill on Southwest
> Boulevard. Losses were estimated at $25,000.
> More than a decade later, in 1949, a fire damaged 40,000 to 50,000
> square feet of lumber.
> A more extensive fire broke out in July 1951 after a flood that same
> month put much of the company's facility under water.
> The flood of October 1998 also damaged the company's facilities.
>
> The Star's Edward M. Eveld contributed to this report.
> To reach Glenn E. Rice, call (816) 234-5908 or send e-mail to
> [email protected].
> To reach Erin Fitzgerald, call (816) 234-7722 or send e-mail to
> [email protected].
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> ********************
> * Nehmo Sergheyev *
> ********************
>
"DexAZ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hope they can get it all cleaned up and rebuild. Tough to find a real
> lumberyard these days.
>
> Seems I heard of a string of condos-under-construction fires out in the
San
> Diego area recently too. Those and the rash of SUV (HUMMER) dealership
> fires nationwide are thought to be the work of some eco-terrorists. Maybe
> they are after lumberyards now too? "save the rain forests etc"
>
Calling someone an "eco-terrorist" makes about as much sense as
calling a junkie a "recreational heroin user". These assholes are Terrorists
plain and simple. The only difference between ELF and Al Queda is that Elf
has not killed any human beings YET. At least not that I am aware of. They
will fuck up and people will die eventually. Maybe then the rest of the
masses will see them for what they really are.........terrorists. The only
good terrorists are dead ones.
Lou
> DexAZ
>
> "Earth _first_
> we'll mine the other planets later" bumpersticker on back of SUV coming
out
> of big condo development up in Scottsdale, AZ
>
>