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27/02/2005 2:44 PM

What tool: Notching a stud

How would you go about cutting a notch in a regular 2x4 stud
across the grain, so that the notch is 1.5" into the grain
and 3.5" along it? (i.e. to embed one 2x4 crosswise into
another).

I guess a jigsaw could be used but it seems that there's
got to be a better way. What tool should be used to make
this cut?

RPM


This topic has 16 replies

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"IBM5081"

in reply to [email protected] on 27/02/2005 2:44 PM

28/02/2005 7:40 AM

Jigsaw with aggressive blade. Mark the piece to be removed; first cut
is continuous from entry-to-exit with turns at the corners. Clean up
the corners after the bulk of the removal is complete.
If it does not have to look nice, make the corner turns wider such that
everything goes on the first cut and the bottom of the cut is wider
than it needs to be.
If it needs to be "better" than a jigsaw, how does it need to be
"better"
(other than not requiring a jigsaw purchase)?

CS

"Charlie Self"

in reply to [email protected] on 27/02/2005 2:44 PM

28/02/2005 8:27 AM

Use a hammer with a ripping claw, and if a fine fit is not needed, you
don't need the chisel.

r

in reply to [email protected] on 27/02/2005 2:44 PM

28/02/2005 9:04 AM

Thanks all for the great responses. That will help me out greatly.

f

in reply to [email protected] on 27/02/2005 2:44 PM

28/02/2005 2:11 PM


Duane Bozarth wrote:
>
>
> What about a hand saw? :)

Only if you want a good fit, fast, and with minimal effort.

>
> A couple of cuts at each end and one or two at most in the middle and
> you can knocke the chunks out...clean up a little w/ a chisel and
you're
> down by the time you can get the circular saw out and the depth
set...

Yes.

--

FF

DB

Duane Bozarth

in reply to [email protected] on 27/02/2005 2:44 PM

28/02/2005 9:24 AM

[email protected] wrote:
>
> How would you go about cutting a notch in a regular 2x4 stud
> across the grain, so that the notch is 1.5" into the grain
> and 3.5" along it? (i.e. to embed one 2x4 crosswise into
> another).
>
> I guess a jigsaw could be used but it seems that there's
> got to be a better way. What tool should be used to make
> this cut?
>
> RPM

What about a hand saw? :)

A couple of cuts at each end and one or two at most in the middle and
you can knocke the chunks out...clean up a little w/ a chisel and you're
down by the time you can get the circular saw out and the depth set...

sa

"stoutman"

in reply to [email protected] on 27/02/2005 2:44 PM

27/02/2005 11:19 PM

TS dado blade.


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> How would you go about cutting a notch in a regular 2x4 stud
> across the grain, so that the notch is 1.5" into the grain
> and 3.5" along it? (i.e. to embed one 2x4 crosswise into
> another).
>
> I guess a jigsaw could be used but it seems that there's
> got to be a better way. What tool should be used to make
> this cut?
>
> RPM
>

MS

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN"

in reply to [email protected] on 27/02/2005 2:44 PM

28/02/2005 1:59 AM

[email protected] wrote:
> How would you go about cutting a notch in a regular 2x4 stud
> across the grain, so that the notch is 1.5" into the grain
> and 3.5" along it? (i.e. to embed one 2x4 crosswise into
> another).
>
> I guess a jigsaw could be used but it seems that there's
> got to be a better way. What tool should be used to make
> this cut?


Take a circular saw and make a cut at the outside margins of the required notch,
then smack the center material between the two cuts with a hammer. The chunk
will break of pretty cleanly but you can dress it up a little more if you need
to with a chisel.



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Mortimer Schnerd, RN

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Tu

"TaskMule"

in reply to [email protected] on 27/02/2005 2:44 PM

28/02/2005 10:48 AM


"Duane Bozarth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > How would you go about cutting a notch in a regular 2x4 stud
> > across the grain, so that the notch is 1.5" into the grain
> > and 3.5" along it? (i.e. to embed one 2x4 crosswise into
> > another).
> >
> > I guess a jigsaw could be used but it seems that there's
> > got to be a better way. What tool should be used to make
> > this cut?
> >
> > RPM
>
> What about a hand saw? :)
>
> A couple of cuts at each end and one or two at most in the middle and
> you can knocke the chunks out...clean up a little w/ a chisel and you're
> down by the time you can get the circular saw out and the depth set...


Best answer yet, as long as the hand saw is sharp.

Cc

"CW"

in reply to [email protected] on 27/02/2005 2:44 PM

27/02/2005 3:59 PM

Standard practice on a construction site is to make multiple cuts to depth
with a cicular saw and clear the waste with a chisel or hatchet, depending
on the desired appearance.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> How would you go about cutting a notch in a regular 2x4 stud
> across the grain, so that the notch is 1.5" into the grain
> and 3.5" along it? (i.e. to embed one 2x4 crosswise into
> another).
>
> I guess a jigsaw could be used but it seems that there's
> got to be a better way. What tool should be used to make
> this cut?
>
> RPM
>

Dd

"DanG"

in reply to [email protected] on 27/02/2005 2:44 PM

27/02/2005 4:50 PM


This is quite a normal cut with a circular saw or table saw. If
the board were quite long, I would use a circular saw, set the
depth for 1 1/2", cross cut to your hearts content, be extra
careful at each end to control the width of the notch.

Shorter board, same game with table saw using a miter gauge.

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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> How would you go about cutting a notch in a regular 2x4 stud
> across the grain, so that the notch is 1.5" into the grain
> and 3.5" along it? (i.e. to embed one 2x4 crosswise into
> another).
>
> I guess a jigsaw could be used but it seems that there's
> got to be a better way. What tool should be used to make
> this cut?
>
> RPM
>

Hu

HerHusband

in reply to [email protected] on 27/02/2005 2:44 PM

01/03/2005 9:54 AM

> How would you go about cutting a notch in a regular 2x4 stud
> across the grain, so that the notch is 1.5" into the grain
> and 3.5" along it? (i.e. to embed one 2x4 crosswise into
> another).

1. Hold the board you want to inset against the studs and trace the sides
of the board on the stud(s).

2. Lay the board on the floor, set the circular saw on top, and adjust the
depth of cut so it matches the thickness of the board.

3. Cut the stud(s) at the upper and lower mark, and then make a few passes
in between. I usually space the cuts about 1/4" to 1/2" apart. It takes a
few more seconds, but it's easier to knock the pieces out and produces a
bit cleaner notch.

4. Take a hammer and knock out the pieces. You can clean up the notch with
the claw of the framing hammer, or use a chisel if you really want to be
neat.

We built our own house last year and had to inset a lot of diagonal braces
in the walls. So I notched a LOT of studs like I described above.

Depending on your intended function, you might just install blocking
"Between" the studs. I had to install a lot of blocking in our master
bedroom to nail up T&G pine boards vertically. In that situation it was
easier to put the blocking in and attach it with screws, especially since
the insulation and wiring was already in place.

Anthony

MP

Mike Patterson

in reply to [email protected] on 27/02/2005 2:44 PM

27/02/2005 7:00 PM

If it's already installed, a chisel/

If it's not installed, a table saw or circular saw with multiple cuts.

MIke.



On 27 Feb 2005 14:44:53 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>How would you go about cutting a notch in a regular 2x4 stud
>across the grain, so that the notch is 1.5" into the grain
>and 3.5" along it? (i.e. to embed one 2x4 crosswise into
>another).
>
>I guess a jigsaw could be used but it seems that there's
>got to be a better way. What tool should be used to make
>this cut?
>
>RPM

Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
"I always wanted to be somebody...I should have been more specific..." - Lily Tomlin

Jm

"J"

in reply to [email protected] on 27/02/2005 2:44 PM

28/02/2005 1:53 PM

Hold the 2x4 up, mark.
cut the end cuts and then plunge cut the back if you don't want to hammer on
it.

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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> How would you go about cutting a notch in a regular 2x4 stud
> across the grain, so that the notch is 1.5" into the grain
> and 3.5" along it? (i.e. to embed one 2x4 crosswise into
> another).
>
> I guess a jigsaw could be used but it seems that there's
> got to be a better way. What tool should be used to make
> this cut?
>
> RPM
>

JH

John Hofstad-Parkhill

in reply to [email protected] on 27/02/2005 2:44 PM

27/02/2005 11:24 PM

Depends...
Is the stud current part of a wall? If so, probably a circular saw & chisel.

If not, and I had access to a radial arm saw, that would be the ticket.

If there were a LOT of them to do, and lacking a radial arm, probably a
jig and router.

If just one or a few, certainly a circular saw and a chisel.

[email protected] said the following on 2/27/2005 4:44 PM:
> How would you go about cutting a notch in a regular 2x4 stud
> across the grain, so that the notch is 1.5" into the grain
> and 3.5" along it? (i.e. to embed one 2x4 crosswise into
> another).
>
> I guess a jigsaw could be used but it seems that there's
> got to be a better way. What tool should be used to make
> this cut?
>
> RPM
>

md

mac davis

in reply to [email protected] on 27/02/2005 2:44 PM

28/02/2005 8:27 AM

On 27 Feb 2005 14:44:53 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>How would you go about cutting a notch in a regular 2x4 stud
>across the grain, so that the notch is 1.5" into the grain
>and 3.5" along it? (i.e. to embed one 2x4 crosswise into
>another).
>
>I guess a jigsaw could be used but it seems that there's
>got to be a better way. What tool should be used to make
>this cut?
>
>RPM

my question would have to be how many notches and are they in the same place on
several 2x's..

If it just 1 or 2 to cut, mark them and use circular saw, recip saw, jig saw,
etc..

If you're doing a LOT of them, then it would be worth setting up some type of
jig and using a TS, RAS or BS..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

Bb

"Bob"

in reply to [email protected] on 27/02/2005 2:44 PM

27/02/2005 6:53 PM

My weapon of choice would be a router.


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> How would you go about cutting a notch in a regular 2x4 stud
> across the grain, so that the notch is 1.5" into the grain
> and 3.5" along it? (i.e. to embed one 2x4 crosswise into
> another).
>
> I guess a jigsaw could be used but it seems that there's
> got to be a better way. What tool should be used to make
> this cut?
>
> RPM
>


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