MM

15/10/2004 6:34 PM

I have to cut down a large straight oak. What should I do with it.

I live near annapolis md. There aren't any saw mills around and it
seems a shame to burn it. What would you do?

Looking for some out of the box ideas!

Mike


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Andy Dingley

in reply to [email protected] (Mike) on 15/10/2004 6:34 PM

16/10/2004 6:30 PM

On 16 Oct 2004 09:47:48 -0700, [email protected] (Mike) wrote:

>What does "rive it" mean?

Split it by hand into radial, tapered boards. You do it with a tool
called a froe - a long flat blade with a slightly sharp edge, although
it's used more as a prybar than as a cutting tool.

Several logs later, I'm still trying to learn to rive a usable board.
OTOH, I now have firewood for the whole winter.

You drive the froe down along the log by hitting it with a wooden
implement called a froe club. I'd tell you more about it, but the
first rule of froe club is "you do not talk about froe club".

c

in reply to [email protected] (Mike) on 15/10/2004 6:34 PM

17/10/2004 4:44 PM

[email protected] (Mike) wrote:

>I live near annapolis md. There aren't any saw mills around and it
>seems a shame to burn it. What would you do?
>
>Looking for some out of the box ideas!
>
>Mike

Well, find a shop that sells/sharpens bandsaw blades. See if you can
post a note. If you were near my home in Michigan, I'd be out to try
it out.

My saw is a home bilt that uses 1 1/4 wide bands. First pass through
a yard tree is with a older band that is about done for. Can't
sharpen them too many times you know. Worst case, a band is 20 bucks.

Wes

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[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to [email protected] (Mike) on 15/10/2004 6:34 PM

17/10/2004 11:30 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>I live near annapolis md. There aren't any saw mills around and it
>seems a shame to burn it. What would you do?
>
>Looking for some out of the box ideas!

Build a caber, and start your own "Highland Games" ?

JJ

in reply to [email protected] (Mike) on 15/10/2004 6:34 PM

16/10/2004 3:49 PM

Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 6:34pm (EDT-3) [email protected] (Mike) who claims:
I live near annapolis md. There aren't any saw mills around <snip>

I would say that would depend on what you mean by "around".
http://local.yahoo.com/results;_ylt=Ak_IAsY.OK2S7MP1DHb5yXeHNcIF;_ylu=X3oDMTBtcWxtamkwBF9zAzk2NjEzNzY3BHNlYwNuYXJyb3c-?stx=sawmill&sortby=topresults&fr=zerorp-local-srchweb&f=&city=Annapolis&state=MD&uzip=21401&radius=50&dma=512&county=Anne+Arundel&approxSpelling=&probability=10&ed=ao1VLa131DxD_UYPW6iTqWhjWCkjiaiV1Lzb7QGYQQWZp_012X4-&ycatfilt=24263283



JOAT
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MM

in reply to [email protected] (Mike) on 15/10/2004 6:34 PM

16/10/2004 9:47 AM

What does "rive it" mean?

Mike



"mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Rive it, and then sell it to chairmakers. It's what we use for the backs of
> windsor chairs.
>
> "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >I live near annapolis md. There aren't any saw mills around and it
> > seems a shame to burn it. What would you do?
> >
> > Looking for some out of the box ideas!
> >
> > Mike

jj

jo4hn

in reply to [email protected] (Mike) on 15/10/2004 6:34 PM

16/10/2004 6:15 PM

Andy Dingley wrote:
[snip] first rule of froe club is "you do not talk about froe club".
>
I belong to the Two-in club. We should hold a joint meeting and get a
bit of that back and forth flow going.
gurk,
j4

mn

"mark"

in reply to [email protected] (Mike) on 15/10/2004 6:34 PM

16/10/2004 3:44 AM

Rive it, and then sell it to chairmakers. It's what we use for the backs of
windsor chairs.

"Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I live near annapolis md. There aren't any saw mills around and it
> seems a shame to burn it. What would you do?
>
> Looking for some out of the box ideas!
>
> Mike

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Andy Dingley

in reply to [email protected] (Mike) on 15/10/2004 6:34 PM

16/10/2004 8:11 PM

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 18:15:35 GMT, "mark" <[email protected]> wrote:

>the key to using a froe and riving oak is to make sure you
>have equal mass on each side. If you don't it will always run out to the
>thinner of the two.

Thanks - worth remembering.

How green / dry is your timber ? I suspect the stuff I'm using is a
bit too dry.

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Smert' spamionam

mn

"mark"

in reply to [email protected] (Mike) on 15/10/2004 6:34 PM

16/10/2004 8:16 PM

>
> I would say that would depend on what you mean by "around".

the saw mills around here won't take residential trees. There's too much
chance of nails and bullets and what not in them that can be a danger to the
guys at the mill.

JJ

in reply to "mark" on 16/10/2004 8:16 PM

16/10/2004 8:08 PM

Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 8:16pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (mark) now says:
the saw mills around here won't take residential trees. There's too much
chance of nails and bullets and what not in them that can be a danger to
the guys at the mill.

Then check on someone with one of the portable bandsaw mills.
They'll even come to your house. And, no, I'm not gonna look any up.



JOAT
Flush the Johns.
- seen on a bumper sticker

mn

"mark"

in reply to [email protected] (Mike) on 15/10/2004 6:34 PM

16/10/2004 6:15 PM


"> You drive the froe down along the log by hitting it with a wooden
> implement called a froe club. I'd tell you more about it, but the
> first rule of froe club is "you do not talk about froe club".
>

That's funny! the key to using a froe and riving oak is to make sure you
have equal mass on each side. If you don't it will always run out to the
thinner of the two. I've never tried to rive a board -- I'm always riving
chairbacks and spindles -- so it really only needs to be about an inch and
half square.

mn

"mark"

in reply to [email protected] (Mike) on 15/10/2004 6:34 PM

16/10/2004 6:13 PM


"Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What does "rive it" mean?
>
> Mike

buck it into about a 5 foot length, then split it lengthwise with the grain,
from one end to another. You've heard of riven oak, or a split rail fence?
The rails are split out of the log lengthwise.

mn

"mark"

in reply to [email protected] (Mike) on 15/10/2004 6:34 PM

16/10/2004 8:15 PM


> How green / dry is your timber ? I suspect the stuff I'm using is a
> bit too dry.
>

I use green when I can get it -- it steams quicker since there's already a
lot of moisture in the wood. Dry works too, but you need the grain to be
almost perfectly straight to get a straight split -- at least in my
experience.

b

in reply to [email protected] (Mike) on 15/10/2004 6:34 PM

16/10/2004 4:41 PM

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 18:30:42 +0100, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 16 Oct 2004 09:47:48 -0700, [email protected] (Mike) wrote:
>
>>What does "rive it" mean?
>
>Split it by hand into radial, tapered boards. You do it with a tool
>called a froe - a long flat blade with a slightly sharp edge, although
>it's used more as a prybar than as a cutting tool.
>
>Several logs later, I'm still trying to learn to rive a usable board.
>OTOH, I now have firewood for the whole winter.
>
>You drive the froe down along the log by hitting it with a wooden
>implement called a froe club. I'd tell you more about it, but the
>first rule of froe club is "you do not talk about froe club".
>



there is no cabal...

JJ

in reply to [email protected] on 16/10/2004 4:41 PM

16/10/2004 8:13 PM

Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 4:41pm (EDT-3) [email protected] tells us:
there is no cabal...

Proof.
http://www.cabal.org/



JOAT
Flush the Johns.
- seen on a bumper sticker

b

in reply to [email protected] (Mike) on 15/10/2004 6:34 PM

16/10/2004 8:20 PM

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 18:15:09 GMT, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:

>Andy Dingley wrote:
>[snip] first rule of froe club is "you do not talk about froe club".
>>
>I belong to the Two-in club. We should hold a joint meeting and get a
>bit of that back and forth flow going.
> gurk,
> j4



if you want to have a joint meeting, you'll have to hold it in Canada.
that sort of thing is illegal in the united states.


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