tt

"toller"

27/12/2004 3:09 PM

Gluing top on table-wood movement?

A few weeks ago I posted about gluing the top on a table, and the unanimous
response was that it was a mistake; wood movement would damage it down the
road.

If the sides are matched to the top in grain direction (the side are
vertical and the front and back are horizontal) why would wood movement be
more of an issue than on any other joint where the grain matches?
I would sincerely appreciate an explanation of that.

I am planning another table. All large pieces (top, shelves, sides) will be
plywood trimmed with solid edges where they show. Is wood movement an issue
there (I can't see why it should be, since everything will expand equally) ?


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PK

Paul Kierstead

in reply to "toller" on 27/12/2004 3:09 PM

27/12/2004 10:29 AM

toller wrote:
> If the sides are matched to the top in grain direction (the side are
> vertical and the front and back are horizontal) why would wood movement be
> more of an issue than on any other joint where the grain matches?
> I would sincerely appreciate an explanation of that.

I really cannot picture a table where grain direction is matched to the
top. The apron has grain running horizontal all the way around, which
means it will be cross grain on two sides. Do you have a picture?



> I am planning another table. All large pieces (top, shelves, sides) will be
> plywood trimmed with solid edges where they show. Is wood movement an issue
> there (I can't see why it should be, since everything will expand equally) ?

Plywood can probably be safely considered movement free from the point
of the design.

PK

PK

Paul Kierstead

in reply to "toller" on 27/12/2004 3:09 PM

27/12/2004 1:38 PM

toller wrote:
>>I really cannot picture a table where grain direction is matched to the
>>top. The apron has grain running horizontal all the way around, which
>>means it will be cross grain on two sides. Do you have a picture?
>>
>
> I posted a picture of it at
> http://www.frontiernet.net/~toller/table.jpg
>

Ah, indeed it is. This is quite unusual table design; normally all apron
grain runs horizontal as the "normal" apron is narrower then you have
used. Hence, when you say you have a "table" and ask about attaching the
top, people assume the normal cross grain situation. I can't see any
specific reason why attaching the top down all the way around won't work
in your case. Perhaps someone else can.

PK

tt

"toller"

in reply to "toller" on 27/12/2004 3:09 PM

27/12/2004 4:07 PM


>
> I really cannot picture a table where grain direction is matched to the
> top. The apron has grain running horizontal all the way around, which
> means it will be cross grain on two sides. Do you have a picture?
>
I posted a picture of it at
http://www.frontiernet.net/~toller/table.jpg

The grain on the backruns the same as the top, as do the sides. I intended
on using pocket screw in the legs to hold the top on, but it turned out not
to be possible.


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