I mortised some hinges. I got them pretty good, but not perfect; there are
is a small space on each hinge.
Presumably I can fill the space in with filler, but I am reluctant to do it
and remove the hinge to sand, as the hinge might pull some of the filler
away. But if I do it and don't remove the hinge to sand, I am afraid of
sanding the hinge.
Other than 1) mortise more carefully or 2) sand very carefully; does anyone
have any suggestions?
How about going to larger hinges.
Ted
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I mortised some hinges. I got them pretty good, but not perfect; there are
> is a small space on each hinge.
>
> Presumably I can fill the space in with filler, but I am reluctant to do it
> and remove the hinge to sand, as the hinge might pull some of the filler
> away. But if I do it and don't remove the hinge to sand, I am afraid of
> sanding the hinge.
>
> Other than 1) mortise more carefully or 2) sand very carefully; does anyone
> have any suggestions?
"Wm Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I mortised some hinges. I got them pretty good, but not perfect; there
are
> > is a small space on each hinge.
> >
> A sixteenth? An eighth? A thirty-second?
Less than a sixteenth at worst.
>
> > Presumably I can fill the space in with filler, but I am reluctant to do
it
> > and remove the hinge to sand, as the hinge might pull some of the filler
> > away. But if I do it and don't remove the hinge to sand, I am afraid of
> > sanding the hinge.
> >
> Use the color-matched Famowood if you don't want to find a matching
> slice of wood to glue in. It sets up in very few moments...then won't
> "pull away." Stains well and takes a finish.
>
> Tool it into the gap well and, for speed, smooth (almost hardly
> necessary considering the probable size of the gap) with a cabinet
> scraper to make missing the hinge quite easy. Or wait a few, remove the
> hinge and sand it down.
Yeh, I have a scraper; that is a good idea.
>
> > Other than 1) mortise more carefully or 2) sand very carefully; does
anyone
> > have any suggestions?
> >
>
> Don't be so hard on yourself?
Ah, if only I could do that I would be a happy man!
>
> Measure twice, cut once?
>
I measured repeatedly, but the surfaces I am hinging together are not
perfectly straight. I cut them at a 45 angle and they hit the motor and
jumped. I have got them mated pretty well, but it made cutting the mortise
a bit of a challenge.
I second the Lie Nelson 40B. It is a delight to use!
Another possibility is to remove the hinges, fill the mortises with a thin
piece of the same wood as the jamb/door, smooth, and remortise. A bit more
work but gives a nice, barely noticeable job.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Artherholt
[email protected]
"Wm Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > "Wm Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > In article <[email protected]>,
> > > "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I mortised some hinges. I got them pretty good, but not perfect;
there
> > are
> > > > is a small space on each hinge.
> > > >
> > > A sixteenth? An eighth? A thirty-second?
> >
> > Less than a sixteenth at worst.
> >
> > >
> > > > Presumably I can fill the space in with filler, but I am reluctant
to do
> > it
> > > > and remove the hinge to sand, as the hinge might pull some of the
filler
> > > > away. But if I do it and don't remove the hinge to sand, I am
afraid of
> > > > sanding the hinge.
> > > >
> > > Use the color-matched Famowood if you don't want to find a matching
> > > slice of wood to glue in. It sets up in very few moments...then won't
> > > "pull away." Stains well and takes a finish.
> > >
> > > Tool it into the gap well and, for speed, smooth (almost hardly
> > > necessary considering the probable size of the gap) with a cabinet
> > > scraper to make missing the hinge quite easy. Or wait a few, remove
the
> > > hinge and sand it down.
> >
> > Yeh, I have a scraper; that is a good idea.
> > >
> > > > Other than 1) mortise more carefully or 2) sand very carefully; does
> > anyone
> > > > have any suggestions?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Don't be so hard on yourself?
> >
> > Ah, if only I could do that I would be a happy man!
> > >
> > > Measure twice, cut once?
> > >
> > I measured repeatedly, but the surfaces I am hinging together are not
> > perfectly straight. I cut them at a 45 angle and they hit the motor and
> > jumped. I have got them mated pretty well, but it made cutting the
mortise
> > a bit of a challenge.
> >
> >
>
> Get the Lie-Nielsen No.40B Butt Mortise Plane
> With sharp chisels and iron makes mortising hinge gains super easy and
> fast.
>
> Good Luck...if we were all perfect wouldn't life be boring?
>
> Practice makes perfect.
>
> A craftsman is just one who can repair his (or anyone else's) mistakes.
> --
> Doors - Locks - Weatherstripping
> POB 250121 Atlanta GA 30325
> 404/626-2840
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I mortised some hinges. I got them pretty good, but not perfect;
> there are is a small space on each hinge.
>
> Presumably I can fill the space in with filler, but I am reluctant to
> do it and remove the hinge to sand, as the hinge might pull some of
> the filler away. But if I do it and don't remove the hinge to sand, I
> am afraid of sanding the hinge.
>
> Other than 1) mortise more carefully or 2) sand very carefully; does
> anyone have any suggestions?
>
>
What's the story on how you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice, man, practice!
That having been said, without seeing a picture, and fresh from the
experience of morticing butt hinges myself, there are often good
opportunities for patching around hinges, since they are by default, behind
a lid or door.
A Normite would have used a trim router and template, and probably just
trimmed a bit deeply. A sliver of shim material under the leaf of the
hinge would likely suffice, and be unobtrusive. DAMHIKT.
A Neander would have trimmed carefully with chisels, and, or course, never
have made a mistake in the first place.
An accolyte of St Roy whould have either carved or forged his own hinges,
and would simply indicate that great uncle Wilbur designed it that way, and
called it good.
Mike would have trained one of his forest animals to cut the mortices.
So how did you go about it?
This winter, I drove up to Fort Bragg, California, to see the gallery show
at College of the Redwoods, the program that Jim Krenov ran for several
decades. When you visit the shop, you notice that there is a sort of a
garden area, with picnic tables & such outside. The fire pit there it
seems isn't just for warming one's self on a foggy Friday evening....
Patriarch,
who may be just a wee bit hypocritical in preaching patience.....
Wax the hinge.
--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I mortised some hinges. I got them pretty good, but not perfect; there
are
> is a small space on each hinge.
>
> Presumably I can fill the space in with filler, but I am reluctant to do
it
> and remove the hinge to sand, as the hinge might pull some of the filler
> away. But if I do it and don't remove the hinge to sand, I am afraid of
> sanding the hinge.
>
> Other than 1) mortise more carefully or 2) sand very carefully; does
anyone
> have any suggestions?
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Wm Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I mortised some hinges. I got them pretty good, but not perfect; there
> are
> > > is a small space on each hinge.
> > >
> > A sixteenth? An eighth? A thirty-second?
>
> Less than a sixteenth at worst.
>
> >
> > > Presumably I can fill the space in with filler, but I am reluctant to do
> it
> > > and remove the hinge to sand, as the hinge might pull some of the filler
> > > away. But if I do it and don't remove the hinge to sand, I am afraid of
> > > sanding the hinge.
> > >
> > Use the color-matched Famowood if you don't want to find a matching
> > slice of wood to glue in. It sets up in very few moments...then won't
> > "pull away." Stains well and takes a finish.
> >
> > Tool it into the gap well and, for speed, smooth (almost hardly
> > necessary considering the probable size of the gap) with a cabinet
> > scraper to make missing the hinge quite easy. Or wait a few, remove the
> > hinge and sand it down.
>
> Yeh, I have a scraper; that is a good idea.
> >
> > > Other than 1) mortise more carefully or 2) sand very carefully; does
> anyone
> > > have any suggestions?
> > >
> >
> > Don't be so hard on yourself?
>
> Ah, if only I could do that I would be a happy man!
> >
> > Measure twice, cut once?
> >
> I measured repeatedly, but the surfaces I am hinging together are not
> perfectly straight. I cut them at a 45 angle and they hit the motor and
> jumped. I have got them mated pretty well, but it made cutting the mortise
> a bit of a challenge.
>
>
Get the Lie-Nielsen No.40B Butt Mortise Plane
With sharp chisels and iron makes mortising hinge gains super easy and
fast.
Good Luck...if we were all perfect wouldn't life be boring?
Practice makes perfect.
A craftsman is just one who can repair his (or anyone else's) mistakes.
--
Doors - Locks - Weatherstripping
POB 250121 Atlanta GA 30325
404/626-2840
In article <[email protected]>,
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I mortised some hinges. I got them pretty good, but not perfect; there are
> is a small space on each hinge.
>
A sixteenth? An eighth? A thirty-second?
> Presumably I can fill the space in with filler, but I am reluctant to do it
> and remove the hinge to sand, as the hinge might pull some of the filler
> away. But if I do it and don't remove the hinge to sand, I am afraid of
> sanding the hinge.
>
Use the color-matched Famowood if you don't want to find a matching
slice of wood to glue in. It sets up in very few moments...then won't
"pull away." Stains well and takes a finish.
Tool it into the gap well and, for speed, smooth (almost hardly
necessary considering the probable size of the gap) with a cabinet
scraper to make missing the hinge quite easy. Or wait a few, remove the
hinge and sand it down.
> Other than 1) mortise more carefully or 2) sand very carefully; does anyone
> have any suggestions?
>
Don't be so hard on yourself?
Measure twice, cut once?
Use a sharper and harder pencil...or knife?
Live and learn?
Cut them a little tight the next time and work out?
--
Doors - Locks - Weatherstripping
POB 250121 Atlanta GA 30325
404/626-2840