CS

"Charlie Self"

19/05/2005 5:27 AM

Tooting my own horn this time

Yesterday, I got author's copies of my newest book, Woodworker's Pocket
Reference (Fox Chapel, May 2005), ISBN 1-56523-239-9. You can get off
Amazon or order direct from Fox Chapel (www.foxchapelpublishing.com).

It's a bit shorter than I'd have liked but the editors and design
people did a great job: apron pocket size, spiral binding, heavy duty
paper and even heavier covers.

None of the traditional woodworking outlets seem to have it yet, at
least on-line.


This topic has 47 replies

HP

"Highland Pairos"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 1:14 PM

OH GREAT. Now Charlie has become a spammer.

JUST KIDDING! :)

Good luck with the book, I will be looking for it.

SteveP.

"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yesterday, I got author's copies of my newest book, Woodworker's Pocket
> Reference (Fox Chapel, May 2005), ISBN 1-56523-239-9. You can get off
> Amazon or order direct from Fox Chapel (www.foxchapelpublishing.com).
>
> It's a bit shorter than I'd have liked but the editors and design
> people did a great job: apron pocket size, spiral binding, heavy duty
> paper and even heavier covers.
>
> None of the traditional woodworking outlets seem to have it yet, at
> least on-line.
>

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 7:37 PM

On Thu, 19 May 2005 22:42:41 GMT, Lobby Dosser
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>> On 19 May 2005 05:27:35 -0700, the inscrutable "Charlie Self"
>> <[email protected]> spake:
>>
>>>Yesterday, I got author's copies of my newest book, Woodworker's
>>>Pocket Reference (Fox Chapel, May 2005), ISBN 1-56523-239-9. You can
>>>get off Amazon or order direct from Fox Chapel
>>>(www.foxchapelpublishing.com).
>>>
>>>It's a bit shorter than I'd have liked but the editors and design
>>>people did a great job: apron pocket size, spiral binding, heavy duty
>>>paper and even heavier covers.
>>>
>>>None of the traditional woodworking outlets seem to have it yet, at
>>>least on-line.
>>
>> Congrats on your forty-umpteenth publishing, Charlie. How about
>> posting an in-depth index of the contents. The blurb on the Fox Chapel
>> site is meager at best. Spiral binding is perfect for this app.
>
>Amazon has several pages plus contents available for viewing. Looks Good!
>
>But printed in China?! Dang, is Nothing Sacred?!


The last Nakashima book that I bought was printed in China.

And the man only lived about twenty miles from my house.

Nice man, too.



Tom Watson - WoodDorker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/ (website)

Ws

"Woodchuck34"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 5:43 AM

Good luck with the book Charlie.

Chuck

Aa

"Andy"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 7:00 AM

Congrats! So if the book is $10.17 on Amazon, does that mean you make
less money? Who eats the $4.78? Looks like it will be a handy book,
anyway.

CS

"Charlie Self"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 7:05 AM


Andy wrote:
> Congrats! So if the book is $10.17 on Amazon, does that mean you
make
> less money? Who eats the $4.78? Looks like it will be a handy book,
> anyway.

Amazon eats the discount in this case, at least as far as I know. My
tiny percentage is unaffected (I hope).

CS

"Charlie Self"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 7:07 AM


Robatoy wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Yesterday, I got author's copies of my newest book, Woodworker's
Pocket
> > Reference (Fox Chapel, May 2005), ISBN 1-56523-239-9. You can get
off
> > Amazon or order direct from Fox Chapel
(www.foxchapelpublishing.com).
> >
> > It's a bit shorter than I'd have liked but the editors and design
> > people did a great job: apron pocket size, spiral binding, heavy
duty
> > paper and even heavier covers.
> >
> > None of the traditional woodworking outlets seem to have it yet, at
> > least on-line.
>
> Congratulations, Charlie. It is a bit like giving birth, eh?
> I wish you success!
>
It can be difficult, but it's relatively pain free, thus unlike giving
birth, at least in that respect. And it's now supposed to support me,
at least in part, instead of me supporting it, another difference.

CS

"Charlie Self"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 7:35 AM


Leon wrote:
> Good for you Charlie and good luck with sales.
>
> Now more importantly, how is the bird house book coming? :~)
>
>
>
> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Yesterday, I got author's copies of my newest book, Woodworker's
Pocket
> > Reference (Fox Chapel, May 2005), ISBN 1-56523-239-9. You can get
off
> > Amazon or order direct from Fox Chapel
(www.foxchapelpublishing.com).
> >
> > It's a bit shorter than I'd have liked but the editors and design
> > people did a great job: apron pocket size, spiral binding, heavy
duty
> > paper and even heavier covers.
> >
> > None of the traditional woodworking outlets seem to have it yet, at
> > least on-line.
> >

Would you believe--I've actually looked at it lately, but done
nothiing. Once I realized there was no chance of finishing for last
Christmas, I set it aside. With just a touch of luck, I'll finish it by
my next birthday (October) so I can sell it for Christmas season. I
hope. When I looked at it, I hated the layout I'd done in WV, so that
needs lots of work.

CS

"Charlie Self"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 9:00 AM


Larry Jaques wrote:
> On 19 May 2005 05:27:35 -0700, the inscrutable "Charlie Self"
> <[email protected]> spake:
>
> >Yesterday, I got author's copies of my newest book, Woodworker's
Pocket
> >Reference (Fox Chapel, May 2005), ISBN 1-56523-239-9. You can get
off
> >Amazon or order direct from Fox Chapel
(www.foxchapelpublishing.com).
> >
> >It's a bit shorter than I'd have liked but the editors and design
> >people did a great job: apron pocket size, spiral binding, heavy
duty
> >paper and even heavier covers.
> >
> >None of the traditional woodworking outlets seem to have it yet, at
> >least on-line.
>
> Congrats on your forty-umpteenth publishing, Charlie. How about
> posting an in-depth index of the contents. The blurb on the Fox
Chapel
> site is meager at best. Spiral binding is perfect for this app.
>

Thanks. Rough breakdown, by chapter subject: 1 is wood; 2 is mechanical
fasteners; 3 is joints; 4 is the shortest of all, shop math & formulas;
5 is finishing; 6 is hand tools; 7 is power tools, 8 isworkbenches &
shop set up; 9 is sharpening; 10 is workshop safety. I would have loved
to have added a couple chapters and maybe 100 pages, but the format was
the message, with it fitting into a shop apron pocket quite easily.

I had three requests for the publisher: spiral binding; heavy duty
covers; heavier than normal pages. Oddly enough, I didn't have to ask
twice, as all that was already on my editor's list, too. It's a nice
feeling when everyone starts out on the same page, with very similar
goals. And that is something that doesn't happen often. Fox Chapel
provided more feedback than any other publisher I've ever worked with,
and accepted my grumpiness over some items better than I expected.

CS

"Charlie Self"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 10:45 AM


David wrote:
> Won't readability suffer due to the size of the book? I mean, aren't
a
> lot of us well over the age of consent and therefore have a tough
time
> with tiny print?
>
> Dave
>
> Charlie Self wrote:
>
> with it fitting into a shop apron pocket quite easily.
> >

The print doesn't seem to me to be that tiny, and my eyes are not
fantastic. I was wearing 1.5 reading glasses when I looked, but I can
read most of it pretty well at arm's length. As I think I said, the
book isn't as thick as I'd have liked, and that's a function of format,
but the layout is very skillfully done.

CS

"Charlie Self"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 4:13 PM


Lobby Dosser wrote:
> Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
> > On 19 May 2005 05:27:35 -0700, the inscrutable "Charlie Self"
> > <[email protected]> spake:
> >
> >>Yesterday, I got author's copies of my newest book, Woodworker's
> >>Pocket Reference (Fox Chapel, May 2005), ISBN 1-56523-239-9. You
can
> >>get off Amazon or order direct from Fox Chapel
> >>(www.foxchapelpublishing.com).
> >>
> >>It's a bit shorter than I'd have liked but the editors and design
> >>people did a great job: apron pocket size, spiral binding, heavy
duty
> >>paper and even heavier covers.
> >>
> >>None of the traditional woodworking outlets seem to have it yet, at
> >>least on-line.
> >
> > Congrats on your forty-umpteenth publishing, Charlie. How about
> > posting an in-depth index of the contents. The blurb on the Fox
Chapel
> > site is meager at best. Spiral binding is perfect for this app.
>
> Amazon has several pages plus contents available for viewing. Looks
Good!
>
> But printed in China?! Dang, is Nothing Sacred?!

No, nothing is sacred. Look through almost any book these days, and see
if you can find one printed in the U.S. It's unlikely. Someone once
said Taunton was one of the few companies doing U.S. printing. The next
Taunton tome I picked up, I checked. IIRC, it was printed in
Italy..Scott Landis' The Workbench Book. I'm told that it is very
slightly slower (transport, I guess), but a huge amount cheaper, to
print overseas.

hf

"hex"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 8:01 PM


David wrote:
> Won't readability suffer due to the size of the book? I mean, aren't
a
> lot of us well over the age of consent and therefore have a tough
time
> with tiny print?
>
> Dave
>
> Charlie Self wrote:
>
> with it fitting into a shop apron pocket quite easily.
> >

Well, many who are having vision problems are also spreading a bit --
bigger aprons
may allow for bigger pockets. So perhaps we can expect a "large print"
version.
So long the publisher doesn't do what the driving atlas vendors do:
"new large print"
is just short hand for "we left off all the small roads"

Best of luck selling many copies Charlie!

hex
-30-
-30-

CS

"Charlie Self"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

20/05/2005 9:46 AM


Ba r r y wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2005 09:44:39 -0400, "No" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Congrats But I have to ask... Is it really EVERYTHING a Woodworker
Needs to
> >Know at a Glance??? $14.95 is a real bargin.
>
> Why should I buy the book when I can just ask him? <G>
>
> Are you offering autographed copies?
>
I wish I could figure out a sensible way to do that...I'm down to my
last copy, and after this, it's pay up time. Of course, I get a
discount, but then the mailing and envelopes and the fact I live 10
miles from where all the supplies are and...

If I knew a couple dozen people wanted it signed, I could order some
copies, stock up on envelopes and try to figure my break even point,
but there's no way on earth I can match Amazon's price.

CS

"Charlie Self"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

20/05/2005 12:17 PM


Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > If I knew a couple dozen people wanted it signed, I could order
some
> > copies, stock up on envelopes and try to figure my break even
point,
> > but there's no way on earth I can match Amazon's price.
> >
>
> Pretty sad that Amazon can sell cheaper than the author can buy them.

Not really that bad. I'd guess that Amazon orders in quantities I don't
even have room to stack, so gets the maximum discount.

>
> How about you take names, and if the quantity seems worth it, we send
you
> the money up front. You won't get stuck that way as we pay full price
to get
> your autograph.
> Ed

Let's try this: I think the envelopes cost me about 75 cents each. Book
rate mail should be fairly low, under two bucks, so I'll send
autographed copies for $16.50, which leaves me a bit for my time doing
labels, and doesn't gouge you guys too badly. I think.

If you're interested, email me, and if the list gets long enough (say
at least a dozen), I'll order the books and post a note here as to when
they're due in. Then, y'all can send checks and I'll send the books as
soon as they arrive...I'll try to find out how long that will be, too.
Remember, book rate tends to take at least a week, sometimes two, to
arrive.

CS

"Charlie Self"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

20/05/2005 1:52 PM


Charles Spitzer wrote:
> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> >> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> > If I knew a couple dozen people wanted it signed, I could order
> > some
> >> > copies, stock up on envelopes and try to figure my break even
> > point,
> >> > but there's no way on earth I can match Amazon's price.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Pretty sad that Amazon can sell cheaper than the author can buy
them.
> >
> > Not really that bad. I'd guess that Amazon orders in quantities I
don't
> > even have room to stack, so gets the maximum discount.
> >
> >>
> >> How about you take names, and if the quantity seems worth it, we
send
> > you
> >> the money up front. You won't get stuck that way as we pay full
price
> > to get
> >> your autograph.
> >> Ed
> >
> > Let's try this: I think the envelopes cost me about 75 cents each.
Book
> > rate mail should be fairly low, under two bucks, so I'll send
> > autographed copies for $16.50, which leaves me a bit for my time
doing
> > labels, and doesn't gouge you guys too badly. I think.
> >
> > If you're interested, email me, and if the list gets long enough
(say
> > at least a dozen), I'll order the books and post a note here as to
when
> > they're due in. Then, y'all can send checks and I'll send the books
as
> > soon as they arrive...I'll try to find out how long that will be,
too.
> > Remember, book rate tends to take at least a week, sometimes two,
to
> > arrive.
>
> see if you can get a local book store to add it to their order.
you'll get
> their discount.

I am pretty sure my author's discount is about equal to what a small
bookstore would get.

CS

"Charlie Self"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

20/05/2005 4:10 PM


Ba r r y wrote:
> On 20 May 2005 09:46:44 -0700, "Charlie Self" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> >If I knew a couple dozen people wanted it signed, I could order some
> >copies, stock up on envelopes and try to figure my break even point,
> >but there's no way on earth I can match Amazon's price.
>
>
> If I buy my own copy, send it to you, include return postage, would
> you sign it? That's what I was thinking.
>
> I think that would be nice, and I don't mind paying shipping both
> ways.
>
> Thanks,
> Barry

barry,

I'll be glad to do it that way if you want, but you may want to check
shipping costs, added to the book plus tax, etc.

CS

"Charlie Self"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

21/05/2005 2:07 AM


MikeG wrote:
> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Charles Spitzer wrote:
> >> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> >
> >> > Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> >> >> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> >> > If I knew a couple dozen people wanted it signed, I could
order
> >> > some
> >> >> > copies, stock up on envelopes and try to figure my break even
> >> > point,
> >> >> > but there's no way on earth I can match Amazon's price.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Pretty sad that Amazon can sell cheaper than the author can buy
> > them.
> >> >
> >> > Not really that bad. I'd guess that Amazon orders in quantities
I
> > don't
> >> > even have room to stack, so gets the maximum discount.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> How about you take names, and if the quantity seems worth it,
we
> > send
> >> > you
> >> >> the money up front. You won't get stuck that way as we pay full
> > price
> >> > to get
> >> >> your autograph.
> >> >> Ed
> >> >
> >> > Let's try this: I think the envelopes cost me about 75 cents
each.
> > Book
> >> > rate mail should be fairly low, under two bucks, so I'll send
> >> > autographed copies for $16.50, which leaves me a bit for my time
> > doing
> >> > labels, and doesn't gouge you guys too badly. I think.
> >> >
> >> > If you're interested, email me, and if the list gets long enough
> > (say
> >> > at least a dozen), I'll order the books and post a note here as
to
> > when
> >> > they're due in. Then, y'all can send checks and I'll send the
books
> > as
> >> > soon as they arrive...I'll try to find out how long that will
be,
> > too.
> >> > Remember, book rate tends to take at least a week, sometimes
two,
> > to
> >> > arrive.
> >>
> >> see if you can get a local book store to add it to their order.
> > you'll get
> >> their discount.
> >
> > I am pretty sure my author's discount is about equal to what a
small
> > bookstore would get.
> >
>
> Get them from Amazon :)

LOL. I said I can't match their price...but add shipping and tax to
Amazon's price and I'd probably have to get $18.50 each to make a buck
a copy.

LD

Lobby Dosser

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

20/05/2005 5:51 AM

Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote:

Great story snipped.

> I guess I went there looking for Yoda.
>
> I found George.
>
> It was a pretty good day.

'pretty good'? I'd number it in the top 5!

>
>

Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 11:25 PM


Thank you for sharing, a really great experience for you Tom. He offers
tours currently: http://www.nakashimawoodworker.com/ , too bad for
me I am in Cali. We have Ralph's markets here too.

--
Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

20/05/2005 10:02 AM

On Thu, 19 May 2005 09:44:39 -0400, "No" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Congrats But I have to ask... Is it really EVERYTHING a Woodworker Needs to
>Know at a Glance??? $14.95 is a real bargin.

Why should I buy the book when I can just ask him? <G>

Are you offering autographed copies?

Barry

ON

Old Nick

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

20/05/2005 10:27 PM

so is that like working the wood?

jj

jo4hn

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 2:37 PM

I'll wait till the movie version comes out. ;-) Maybe Redford will
play you...

Congratulations and may you sell a zillion copies.

mahalo,
Redford

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 7:35 PM

On 19 May 2005 05:27:35 -0700, "Charlie Self" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Yesterday, I got author's copies of my newest book, Woodworker's Pocket
>Reference (Fox Chapel, May 2005), ISBN 1-56523-239-9. You can get off
>Amazon or order direct from Fox Chapel (www.foxchapelpublishing.com).
>
>It's a bit shorter than I'd have liked but the editors and design
>people did a great job: apron pocket size, spiral binding, heavy duty
>paper and even heavier covers.
>
>None of the traditional woodworking outlets seem to have it yet, at
>least on-line.


I just want to give you an Attaboy on getting that sucker out where it
can make some money.

Congratulations, Charlie!



Tom Watson - WoodDorker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/ (website)

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 1:54 PM

On 19 May 2005 09:00:45 -0700, the inscrutable "Charlie Self"
<[email protected]> spake:

>Larry Jaques wrote:
>> Congrats on your forty-umpteenth publishing, Charlie. How about
>> posting an in-depth index of the contents. The blurb on the Fox
>Chapel
>> site is meager at best. Spiral binding is perfect for this app.
>
>Thanks. Rough breakdown, by chapter subject: 1 is wood; 2 is mechanical
>fasteners; 3 is joints; 4 is the shortest of all, shop math & formulas;
>5 is finishing; 6 is hand tools; 7 is power tools, 8 isworkbenches &
>shop set up; 9 is sharpening; 10 is workshop safety. I would have loved
>to have added a couple chapters and maybe 100 pages, but the format was
>the message, with it fitting into a shop apron pocket quite easily.

Thanks. Yeah, 160 pages seems light. How do you compare it to the
Handyman In-Your-Pocket book? It's ~3x5x1" thick and 768 pages.
Back to your book, what all is in Chapter 3?

I may add one of your WPRs to my next Amazon run to qualify for the
free shipping. (That's my excuse and I'm stickin' to it.)


>I had three requests for the publisher: spiral binding; heavy duty
>covers; heavier than normal pages. Oddly enough, I didn't have to ask
>twice, as all that was already on my editor's list, too. It's a nice
>feeling when everyone starts out on the same page, with very similar
>goals. And that is something that doesn't happen often. Fox Chapel

That's great. Kudos to Fox Chapel pubs!


>provided more feedback than any other publisher I've ever worked with,
>and accepted my grumpiness over some items better than I expected.

Very good! Ya lucked out, Mr. Grumps. <g>


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Lobby Dosser

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 10:42 PM

Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:

> On 19 May 2005 05:27:35 -0700, the inscrutable "Charlie Self"
> <[email protected]> spake:
>
>>Yesterday, I got author's copies of my newest book, Woodworker's
>>Pocket Reference (Fox Chapel, May 2005), ISBN 1-56523-239-9. You can
>>get off Amazon or order direct from Fox Chapel
>>(www.foxchapelpublishing.com).
>>
>>It's a bit shorter than I'd have liked but the editors and design
>>people did a great job: apron pocket size, spiral binding, heavy duty
>>paper and even heavier covers.
>>
>>None of the traditional woodworking outlets seem to have it yet, at
>>least on-line.
>
> Congrats on your forty-umpteenth publishing, Charlie. How about
> posting an in-depth index of the contents. The blurb on the Fox Chapel
> site is meager at best. Spiral binding is perfect for this app.

Amazon has several pages plus contents available for viewing. Looks Good!

But printed in China?! Dang, is Nothing Sacred?!

nn

"no(SPAM)vasys" <"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net>

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

20/05/2005 2:28 PM

Charlie Self wrote:
> Ba r r y wrote:
>
>>
>>Are you offering autographed copies?
>>
>
> I wish I could figure out a sensible way to do that...I'm down to my
> last copy, and after this, it's pay up time. Of course, I get a
> discount, but then the mailing and envelopes and the fact I live 10
> miles from where all the supplies are and...
>
> If I knew a couple dozen people wanted it signed, I could order some
> copies, stock up on envelopes and try to figure my break even point,
> but there's no way on earth I can match Amazon's price.
>

Hi Charlie,

If you get enough request you can put me on the list for an autographed
copy. With a "Genuine autographed copy!" you don't have to compete with
Amazon. If you get enough requests figure out what the cost would be
ping me on the back channel (email below is real on this post) and I'll
drop a check in the mail.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 2:12 PM

Good for you Charlie and good luck with sales.

Now more importantly, how is the bird house book coming? :~)



"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yesterday, I got author's copies of my newest book, Woodworker's Pocket
> Reference (Fox Chapel, May 2005), ISBN 1-56523-239-9. You can get off
> Amazon or order direct from Fox Chapel (www.foxchapelpublishing.com).
>
> It's a bit shorter than I'd have liked but the editors and design
> people did a great job: apron pocket size, spiral binding, heavy duty
> paper and even heavier covers.
>
> None of the traditional woodworking outlets seem to have it yet, at
> least on-line.
>

Mn

"MikeG"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

21/05/2005 7:51 AM


"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Charles Spitzer wrote:
>> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> > Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>> >> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >> > If I knew a couple dozen people wanted it signed, I could order
>> > some
>> >> > copies, stock up on envelopes and try to figure my break even
>> > point,
>> >> > but there's no way on earth I can match Amazon's price.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Pretty sad that Amazon can sell cheaper than the author can buy
> them.
>> >
>> > Not really that bad. I'd guess that Amazon orders in quantities I
> don't
>> > even have room to stack, so gets the maximum discount.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> How about you take names, and if the quantity seems worth it, we
> send
>> > you
>> >> the money up front. You won't get stuck that way as we pay full
> price
>> > to get
>> >> your autograph.
>> >> Ed
>> >
>> > Let's try this: I think the envelopes cost me about 75 cents each.
> Book
>> > rate mail should be fairly low, under two bucks, so I'll send
>> > autographed copies for $16.50, which leaves me a bit for my time
> doing
>> > labels, and doesn't gouge you guys too badly. I think.
>> >
>> > If you're interested, email me, and if the list gets long enough
> (say
>> > at least a dozen), I'll order the books and post a note here as to
> when
>> > they're due in. Then, y'all can send checks and I'll send the books
> as
>> > soon as they arrive...I'll try to find out how long that will be,
> too.
>> > Remember, book rate tends to take at least a week, sometimes two,
> to
>> > arrive.
>>
>> see if you can get a local book store to add it to their order.
> you'll get
>> their discount.
>
> I am pretty sure my author's discount is about equal to what a small
> bookstore would get.
>

Get them from Amazon :)

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 11:00 PM

Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote in news:design-EB4CBB.09232819052005
@nr-tor01.bellnexxia.net:

<snip>
>
> Congratulations, Charlie. It is a bit like giving birth, eh?
> I wish you success!
>

So, do books keep costing you money for the next 25+ years after
publication? ;-)

Patriarch

ps: Congrats, Charley! I'll see about buying one soon!

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 11:07 PM

Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

<snip of a very good story. Thanks, Tom>
>
> I guess I went there looking for Yoda.
>
> I found George.
>
> It was a pretty good day.
>

Yoda lives near Ft. Bragg, California. I'm friends with a few Jedi.

Patriarch

Hn

Han

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

21/05/2005 11:52 AM

"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1116666441.364992.272100
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

> LOL. I said I can't match their price...but add shipping and tax to
> Amazon's price and I'd probably have to get $18.50 each to make a buck
> a copy.
>

I'll send you a 20 dollar bill in the mail to get an autographed copy.
Just tell me when. I got your address from your resume page. Nice one!



--
Best regards
Han
email address is broek dot njus at gmail dot com

PC

Patrick Conroy

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

20/05/2005 11:26 PM

Patriarch <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> Yoda lives near Ft. Bragg, California. I'm friends with a few Jedi.


Thin kerf light saber or regular?

Nb

"News"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

20/05/2005 11:35 AM

Congrats Charlie!

I'm going to order it. I know how you feel -- I also just had a book release
(Physical and Technical Security: An Introduction), so I know what a thrill
it is to see it appear on Amazon and the others.

Bob Gruber

>> Yesterday, I got author's copies of my newest book, Woodworker's Pocket
>> Reference (Fox Chapel, May 2005), ISBN 1-56523-239-9. You can get off
>> Amazon or order direct from Fox Chapel (www.foxchapelpublishing.com).

Nn

"No"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 9:44 AM

Congrats But I have to ask... Is it really EVERYTHING a Woodworker Needs to
Know at a Glance??? $14.95 is a real bargin. <Teasing> Good luck with it.

"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yesterday, I got author's copies of my newest book, Woodworker's Pocket
> Reference (Fox Chapel, May 2005), ISBN 1-56523-239-9. You can get off
> Amazon or order direct from Fox Chapel (www.foxchapelpublishing.com).
>
> It's a bit shorter than I'd have liked but the editors and design
> people did a great job: apron pocket size, spiral binding, heavy duty
> paper and even heavier covers.
>
> None of the traditional woodworking outlets seem to have it yet, at
> least on-line.
>

CS

"Charles Spitzer"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

20/05/2005 12:38 PM


"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > If I knew a couple dozen people wanted it signed, I could order
> some
>> > copies, stock up on envelopes and try to figure my break even
> point,
>> > but there's no way on earth I can match Amazon's price.
>> >
>>
>> Pretty sad that Amazon can sell cheaper than the author can buy them.
>
> Not really that bad. I'd guess that Amazon orders in quantities I don't
> even have room to stack, so gets the maximum discount.
>
>>
>> How about you take names, and if the quantity seems worth it, we send
> you
>> the money up front. You won't get stuck that way as we pay full price
> to get
>> your autograph.
>> Ed
>
> Let's try this: I think the envelopes cost me about 75 cents each. Book
> rate mail should be fairly low, under two bucks, so I'll send
> autographed copies for $16.50, which leaves me a bit for my time doing
> labels, and doesn't gouge you guys too badly. I think.
>
> If you're interested, email me, and if the list gets long enough (say
> at least a dozen), I'll order the books and post a note here as to when
> they're due in. Then, y'all can send checks and I'll send the books as
> soon as they arrive...I'll try to find out how long that will be, too.
> Remember, book rate tends to take at least a week, sometimes two, to
> arrive.

see if you can get a local book store to add it to their order. you'll get
their discount.

Rd

Robatoy

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 9:23 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yesterday, I got author's copies of my newest book, Woodworker's Pocket
> Reference (Fox Chapel, May 2005), ISBN 1-56523-239-9. You can get off
> Amazon or order direct from Fox Chapel (www.foxchapelpublishing.com).
>
> It's a bit shorter than I'd have liked but the editors and design
> people did a great job: apron pocket size, spiral binding, heavy duty
> paper and even heavier covers.
>
> None of the traditional woodworking outlets seem to have it yet, at
> least on-line.

Congratulations, Charlie. It is a bit like giving birth, eh?
I wish you success!

r

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

20/05/2005 6:54 PM


"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> If I knew a couple dozen people wanted it signed, I could order some
> copies, stock up on envelopes and try to figure my break even point,
> but there's no way on earth I can match Amazon's price.
>

Pretty sad that Amazon can sell cheaper than the author can buy them.

How about you take names, and if the quantity seems worth it, we send you
the money up front. You won't get stuck that way as we pay full price to get
your autograph.
Ed

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 8:47 AM

On 19 May 2005 05:27:35 -0700, the inscrutable "Charlie Self"
<[email protected]> spake:

>Yesterday, I got author's copies of my newest book, Woodworker's Pocket
>Reference (Fox Chapel, May 2005), ISBN 1-56523-239-9. You can get off
>Amazon or order direct from Fox Chapel (www.foxchapelpublishing.com).
>
>It's a bit shorter than I'd have liked but the editors and design
>people did a great job: apron pocket size, spiral binding, heavy duty
>paper and even heavier covers.
>
>None of the traditional woodworking outlets seem to have it yet, at
>least on-line.

Congrats on your forty-umpteenth publishing, Charlie. How about
posting an in-depth index of the contents. The blurb on the Fox Chapel
site is meager at best. Spiral binding is perfect for this app.


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Ba r r y

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

20/05/2005 9:00 PM

On 20 May 2005 09:46:44 -0700, "Charlie Self" <[email protected]>
wrote:


>If I knew a couple dozen people wanted it signed, I could order some
>copies, stock up on envelopes and try to figure my break even point,
>but there's no way on earth I can match Amazon's price.


If I buy my own copy, send it to you, include return postage, would
you sign it? That's what I was thinking.

I think that would be nice, and I don't mind paying shipping both
ways.

Thanks,
Barry

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

20/05/2005 9:00 PM

On Fri, 20 May 2005 18:54:02 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:


>How about you take names, and if the quantity seems worth it, we send you
>the money up front. You won't get stuck that way as we pay full price to get
>your autograph.
>Ed


That's what I was thinking.

I don't want a discount.

Barry

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

21/05/2005 5:27 AM

On 21 May 2005 02:07:21 -0700, the inscrutable "Charlie Self"
<[email protected]> spake:

>MikeG wrote:
>> Get them from Amazon :)
>
>LOL. I said I can't match their price...but add shipping and tax to
>Amazon's price and I'd probably have to get $18.50 each to make a buck
>a copy.

If my sister (herbologist and now N.D., book monger) is any
indication, book dealers (and anyone purchasing a volume of 10 or more
books per title) generally get a 50+% discount. With Amazon, any order
over $25 ships free, so your costs would be minimal, Charlie, and they
may give you an even better discount as the author.

Ping me offline, sil vous plait.


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Patrick Conroy

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 5:27 PM

"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1116505655.665479.216450
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

>
>
> Yesterday, I got author's copies of my newest book, Woodworker's Pocket
> Reference (Fox Chapel, May 2005), ISBN 1-56523-239-9. You can get off
> Amazon or order direct from Fox Chapel (www.foxchapelpublishing.com).

Congratulations and **many** happy returns!

LD

Lobby Dosser

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

20/05/2005 5:48 AM

"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>> Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On 19 May 2005 05:27:35 -0700, the inscrutable "Charlie Self"
>> > <[email protected]> spake:
>> >
>> >>Yesterday, I got author's copies of my newest book, Woodworker's
>> >>Pocket Reference (Fox Chapel, May 2005), ISBN 1-56523-239-9. You
> can
>> >>get off Amazon or order direct from Fox Chapel
>> >>(www.foxchapelpublishing.com).
>> >>
>> >>It's a bit shorter than I'd have liked but the editors and design
>> >>people did a great job: apron pocket size, spiral binding, heavy
> duty
>> >>paper and even heavier covers.
>> >>
>> >>None of the traditional woodworking outlets seem to have it yet, at
>> >>least on-line.
>> >
>> > Congrats on your forty-umpteenth publishing, Charlie. How about
>> > posting an in-depth index of the contents. The blurb on the Fox
> Chapel
>> > site is meager at best. Spiral binding is perfect for this app.
>>
>> Amazon has several pages plus contents available for viewing. Looks
> Good!
>>
>> But printed in China?! Dang, is Nothing Sacred?!
>
> No, nothing is sacred. Look through almost any book these days, and
> see if you can find one printed in the U.S. It's unlikely. Someone
> once said Taunton was one of the few companies doing U.S. printing.
> The next Taunton tome I picked up, I checked. IIRC, it was printed in
> Italy..Scott Landis' The Workbench Book. I'm told that it is very
> slightly slower (transport, I guess), but a huge amount cheaper, to
> print overseas.
>

I just looked through some recent (2000-2004) books I own. One Singapore,
one China, and two US. The most recent being China. Sigh!

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 9:20 PM


"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Leon wrote:
>> Good for you Charlie and good luck with sales.
>>
>> Now more importantly, how is the bird house book coming? :~)
> Would you believe--I've actually looked at it lately, but done
> nothiing. Once I realized there was no chance of finishing for last
> Christmas, I set it aside. With just a touch of luck, I'll finish it by
> my next birthday (October) so I can sell it for Christmas season. I
> hope. When I looked at it, I hated the layout I'd done in WV, so that
> needs lots of work.
>


LOL.. pro-crastination... ;~) I'll be looking for it.

RT

"Rick"

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

20/05/2005 2:09 AM


"Tom Watson" wrote >
[snip]
>
> And so, I will tell you the story of the day that I met George
> (Nakashima).
>
[snip]
> I guess I went there looking for Yoda.
>
> I found George.
>
> It was a pretty good day.
>


Tom,

Thank you. You are keeping mighty high company ... could be that you belong
with that elevated group.

Keep writing, keep talking to the wood. Live well.


Regards,


Rick



LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

20/05/2005 8:17 AM

On Fri, 20 May 2005 02:09:27 GMT, the inscrutable "Rick"
<[email protected]> spake:

>
>"Tom Watson" wrote >
>[snip]
>>
>> And so, I will tell you the story of the day that I met George
>> (Nakashima).
>>
> [snip]
>> I guess I went there looking for Yoda.
>>
>> I found George.
>>
>> It was a pretty good day.
>
>Tom,
>
>Thank you. You are keeping mighty high company ... could be that you belong
>with that elevated group.
>
>Keep writing, keep talking to the wood. Live well.

Dittoes, Rick and Tawm.


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in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 9:28 AM

Won't readability suffer due to the size of the book? I mean, aren't a
lot of us well over the age of consent and therefore have a tough time
with tiny print?

Dave

Charlie Self wrote:

with it fitting into a shop apron pocket quite easily.
>

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to "Charlie Self" on 19/05/2005 5:27 AM

19/05/2005 9:27 PM

On Thu, 19 May 2005 19:37:14 -0400, Tom Watson <[email protected]>
wrote:

>The last Nakashima book that I bought was printed in China.
>
>And the man only lived about twenty miles from my house.
>
>Nice man, too.


I thought this to be a little bit too much of a teaser to leave alone.

And so, I will tell you the story of the day that I met George
(Nakashima).

It was in the early Fall of 1985 and I had recently moved back to
Pennsylvania from Manhattan. I was very happy to be on my home ground
again.

I had been running high end residential construction work in New York
and was beginning to engage myself in the same practice in
Pennsylvania. I was tired of the business and really wanted to go
back to my roots as a carpenter craftsman, rather than continue the
pursuit of more dollars in management.

I had three bibles at this time; two were from Taunton Press, FWW and
FHB - the other was the Garrett Wade catalog.

I'd read about Nakashima and his ethic regarding woodworking, and what
I'd read made me want to meet him.

Since he was only one county away from me, I decided on a road trip.

I figured that I would show up at his shop at coffee break time, more
or less 10:00 am.

I showed up at Mr. Nakashima's shop at precisely 10:00 am, with two
cups of the finest local java.

Mr. Nakashima, "is not available". "Would you please call for an
appointment."

I slinked away and consumed both cups of coffee, which is always a bad
idea for me.

Taking the number from the business card and dialing it up, I was
treated to a gruff voice, "This is George."

"Mr. Nakashima?"

"Yes."

"I'm a carpenter from the area and I wanted to visit your shop."

"Do you want to buy it?"

(brief apoplectic pause)

"No Sir, I wanted to see your shop."

"Why would you want to see the shop. It's just a shop."

"Mr. Nakashima, I want to see the wood."

"Do you want to buy some wood?"

"No Sir, I just want to see it."

"Ah... Bring me a cheesesteak from Ralph's. I'll show you the wood."

"Is Noon a good time?"

"No. One O'clock. Tell Ralph it's for George, he'll know what to do."

I kicked around town for a bit, asked someone where Ralph's might be,
got an answer and some advice to get extra cheese, since Ralph was a
bit stingy unless asked. Finally I ordered up and went back to Mr.
Nakashima's place.

Since I looked like what I was, someone who was delivering lunch, I
was allowed straight in.

"You're Tom, the carpenter?"

"Yes Sir, Mr. Nakashima?"

"Ever had a cheesesteak from Ralph's?"

"No sir, I never have."

"You're in for a treat!"

(much eating and small talk)

"So Tom, why are you so interested in the wood?"

"I like wood."

"Honest answer. A little brief."

"I've seen your work and read about your work and it all seems to be
about the wood. I want to see the wood that inspires you."

There are times when you deal with a person who is unknown to you, and
you make a comment that, in the moment seemed to be right but, upon
further reflection, you wish that you could take it...

"...It does inspire me. Don't be afraid to say what you think. It
does inspire me, and it inspires the people that I sell my work to."

(awkward pause)

"Let's show you the wood."

There was one barn and two outbuildings on the property. The wood was
stored vertically in some areas and on the flat in others. The wood
was massive, the cuts being eight inches thick in some instances.

There were full logs with the bark still on them.

There was more cabinet grade wood than I have ever seen before or
since under the roof of a privately owned shop.

As we walked among the stored treasures of his professional life, he
became more animated and more poetic, and it really seemed as though
it didn't matter if I was there or not - the man was lost in his wood.

He knew where each piece had been cut and how it had been cut. He had
plans in his head for certain pieces.

We spent almost three hours looking at the wood. I was beginning to
feel guilty.

"I don't do this enough. I'm happy that you came. And thanks for the
cheesesteak."

"Thank you for taking all this time, Mr. Nakashima."

"You can call me George."

"Yes Sir, Mr. Nakashima.'

"Well...all right then."



I guess I went there looking for Yoda.

I found George.

It was a pretty good day.





















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