In article <[email protected]>, CNT <[email protected]> wrote:
>I used "freud router bit" and few others.
>
>One came up www.freud-tools.com and they were VERY RUDE! I am Deaf and need
>to call people thru relay service. They said they will not accept a relay
>call. I dialed 8 times to hear the same thing.
Oh, boy, I smell the shark-bait now. I bet if you have a lawyer write them a
letter mentioning the ADA, they'll change their policy in a big hurry. What a
bunch of jerks.
I have a friend who's deaf, and I've used a relay service dozens of times to
talk to him. It's no big deal - can't imagine what their problem is, other
than massive ignorance. Maybe I'll prefer to buy from their competitors next
time I need bits or blades. No reason for them to go out of their way to make
life hard for you.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
"CNT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I used "freud router bit" and few others.
>
> One came up www.freud-tools.com and they were VERY RUDE! I am Deaf and
need
> to call people thru relay service. They said they will not accept a relay
> call. I dialed 8 times to hear the same thing.
>
> I just called that 800 number you gave me and lead me to call Muller Co.
>
> Chuck
Chuck,
I hate to say this, but working in a business with an 800 number, we have
received a fair number of relay calls. Each and every one has been an
attempt at fraud.
Our operator will spend 30 minutes or more on the line (at our cost), only
to find out that the person on the other end wants to buy a large quantity
of what we sell, have it shipped to an international address, and pay with
an offshore cashiers check or foreign credit card.
Now obviously, I am not implying that the hearing impaired are scammers -
it's just that the scammers seem to have found this to be an anonymous way
of plying their trade. It's unfortunate that this method of communication
has been tainted for the people who need it. Our experience may have led
some companies to institute a policy of not accepting relay calls.
Gary
I used "freud router bit" and few others.
One came up www.freud-tools.com and they were VERY RUDE! I am Deaf and need
to call people thru relay service. They said they will not accept a relay
call. I dialed 8 times to hear the same thing.
I just called that 800 number you gave me and lead me to call Muller Co.
Chuck
Lot of others (including Whiteside) don't include backcutters.
It isn't a unique design, just a COVE panel with ROUNDOVER rail/stile.
Chuck
> Or Whiteside...I have no idea what that part no actually is, but
> unless it is a unique Freud profile or you have some other reason for
> requiring Freud, there may be good quality alternatives less expensive
> (but maybe not, too)...
I went inside Neu's and they had Freud stand (about time I see one after
all driving around). However, they didn't have the set I am looking for.
Not only that, their price is little higher too.
Amazon has the best price right now and NO tax and NO shipping charges.
Chuck
> Thanks for mention Neu's, I am on my way there NOW!
>
>> Have you tried the Rockler's on Highway 100 and just north of
>> Wisconsin, and Neu's hardware in (Menomenee Falls maybe)?
In article <%[email protected]>,
Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, CNT <[email protected]> wrote:
>>I used "freud router bit" and few others.
>>
>>One came up www.freud-tools.com and they were VERY RUDE! I am Deaf and need
>>to call people thru relay service. They said they will not accept a relay
>>call. I dialed 8 times to hear the same thing.
>
>Oh, boy, I smell the shark-bait now. I bet if you have a lawyer write them a
>letter mentioning the ADA, they'll change their policy in a big hurry. What a
>bunch of jerks.
I'll betcha ya *not*. <grin>
See the other messages about the _fraud_ being perpetrated via that service.
It's a good service, for the hearing impaired. but many businesses can make
a _very_real_ case for not accepting such calls to their _order_ line.
>I have a friend who's deaf, and I've used a relay service dozens of times to
>talk to him. It's no big deal - can't imagine what their problem is, other
>than massive ignorance.
The 'deal', as you put it, is "*frequent*, massive, fraud" attempts. The
criminals have discovered that the call through the 'relay' service leaves
*NO* tracks back to them. The company gets the _relay's_ Caller-ID (or ANI)
info, not the fraudster's.
See the other postings in the thread for more info.
On Thu, 19 May 2005 16:07:09 -0000, CNT <[email protected]> wrote:
>Anyone know Freud company phone number? I need to call them and ask what
>retailer sells Freud router bits in my town. I drove around and looks like
>no body sells Freud in Milwaukee, WI!?!?
>
>Home Depot, Woodcraft, Rockler, etc, does NOT have 'em.
Farm and Fleet has them, or at least they did the last time I checked.
The one in Eau Claire seems to change their entire stock every couple
of weeks, though. Otherwise, Sears may have them- I know they carry
the blades.
>Chuck
On Thu, 19 May 2005 17:39:23 -0000, CNT <[email protected]> wrote:
> I live in Milwaukee, WI. The whole reason I want Freud's number is to get a
> retailer that sells Freud router bits, guess what, there aren't any in this
> town!?!? I will have to order it thru Amazon.com ( 97-108 for $154.99 ).
Have you tried the Rockler's on Highway 100 and just north of Wisconsin,
and Neu's hardware in (Menomenee Falls maybe)?
On Thu, 19 May 2005 22:10:01 -0000, CNT <[email protected]> wrote:
> I went inside Neu's and they had Freud stand (about time I see one after
> all driving around). However, they didn't have the set I am looking for.
> Not only that, their price is little higher too.
> Amazon has the best price right now and NO tax and NO shipping charges.
Right, Neu's will have things that others don't, but don't expect BORG
or Amazon prices there.
Then again, don't expect Neu's service from the BORG or Amazon,
either...
Lew Hodgett wrote:
>
> CNT wrote:
> > I live in Milwaukee, WI. The whole reason I want Freud's number is to get a
> > retailer that sells Freud router bits, guess what, there aren't any in this
> > town!?!? I will have to order it thru Amazon.com ( 97-108 for $154.99 ).
>
> Just for funzies, as long as shipping is involved, might want to check
> CMT in Iowa?
Or Whiteside...I have no idea what that part no actually is, but unless
it is a unique Freud profile or you have some other reason for requiring
Freud, there may be good quality alternatives less expensive (but maybe
not, too)...
David wrote:
>
> You can easily cancel an Amazon order on line.
>
...
Maybe...I've tried on occasion almost immediately and it was already "in
the system" and wouldn't allow it. On an item w/ delayed delivery date,
probably. Just thought I'd mention it doesn't always let you even if
you try right after the submission.
David wrote:
>
> You can easily cancel an Amazon order on line.
>
...
Maybe...I tried on one occasion almost immediately and it was already
"in the system" and wouldn't allow it. On an item w/ delayed delivery
date, probably. Just thought I'd mention it doesn't always let you even
if you try right after the submission.
Ever used Google?? :)
800-334-4107
Dave
CNT wrote:
> Anyone know Freud company phone number? I need to call them and ask what
> retailer sells Freud router bits in my town. I drove around and looks like
> no body sells Freud in Milwaukee, WI!?!?
>
> Home Depot, Woodcraft, Rockler, etc, does NOT have 'em.
>
> Chuck
"CNT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I used "freud router bit" and few others.
>
> One came up www.freud-tools.com and they were VERY RUDE! I am Deaf and
> need
> to call people thru relay service. They said they will not accept a relay
> call. I dialed 8 times to hear the same thing.
Then why would you want to do business with them? If that is their
attitude, use other brands. A relay call takes but a few seconds more than
normal.
www.infinitytools.com or www.routerbits.com or many other good brands
around.
When you wrote that you hit "send" too fast, I thought you meant you
ordered the stuff w/o meaning to. DUH! Now I know you meant in
reference to the newsgroup. anyway, now you have a phone number for
Amazon that they don't give out easily.
Dave
CNT wrote:
> Thanks, but WHY should I want to cancel the order? I still want it.
> Was there something I overlooked? The part # was 97-108
> FWIW, I still can cancel it since it's still before SHIPPED date.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>>>>>You can easily cancel an Amazon order on line.
CNT <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> Rockler don't sell Freuds...
> Thanks for mention Neu's, I am on my way there NOW!
>
> Chuck
>
>> Have you tried the Rockler's on Highway 100 and just north of
>> Wisconsin, and Neu's hardware in (Menomenee Falls maybe)?
>
They sell a very good Amana line...
CNT <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> WithOUT backcutters...
>
> Chuck
>
>> They sell a very good Amana line...
>
OK. So you did more research than I did. ;-)
In article <[email protected]>, CNT <[email protected]>
wrote:
> They said they will not accept a relay
> call. I dialed 8 times to hear the same thing.
I'm appalled! There are plenty of good quality routerbits around. Who
needs Freud?
What shipping? Amazon usually waives the shipping for orders
totalling more than $25 (or there abouts)
So, unless folks want/need it overnight there typically is NO shipping
charges and no TAX
John
On Thu, 19 May 2005 17:48:03 GMT, Lew Hodgett
<[email protected]> wrote:
>CNT wrote:
>> I live in Milwaukee, WI. The whole reason I want Freud's number is to get a
>> retailer that sells Freud router bits, guess what, there aren't any in this
>> town!?!? I will have to order it thru Amazon.com ( 97-108 for $154.99 ).
>
>
>Just for funzies, as long as shipping is involved, might want to check
>CMT in Iowa?
>
>Lew
On Thu, 19 May 2005 17:48:03 GMT, Lew Hodgett
<[email protected]> wrote:
>CNT wrote:
>> I live in Milwaukee, WI. The whole reason I want Freud's number is to get a
>> retailer that sells Freud router bits, guess what, there aren't any in this
>> town!?!? I will have to order it thru Amazon.com ( 97-108 for $154.99 ).
>
>
>Just for funzies, as long as shipping is involved, might want to check
>CMT in Iowa?
>
>Lew
Chuck,
Consider these guys, as well:
<http://www.ballewtools.com/>
The site is kinda' lame, but the service and prices are top notch!
Barry
CNT wrote:
> Anyone know Freud company phone number? I need to call them and ask what
> retailer sells Freud router bits in my town. I drove around and looks like
> no body sells Freud in Milwaukee, WI!?!?
>
> Home Depot, Woodcraft, Rockler, etc, does NOT have 'em.
>
> Chuck
Oh, Dr. Freud, oh, Dr. Freud
How I wish that you'd been otherwise employed
For the set of circumstances sure enhances the finances
Of the followers of Dr. Sigmund Freud.
[Chad Mitchell Trio]
musically yours,
jo4hn
CNT wrote:
> I live in Milwaukee, WI. The whole reason I want Freud's number is to get a
> retailer that sells Freud router bits, guess what, there aren't any in this
> town!?!? I will have to order it thru Amazon.com ( 97-108 for $154.99 ).
Just for funzies, as long as shipping is involved, might want to check
CMT in Iowa?
Lew
Another case of the "few" spoiling things for the "many". How shameful
can people be?? Don't answer--that was rhetorical. :)
Dave
gw wrote:
> "CNT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I used "freud router bit" and few others.
>>
>>One came up www.freud-tools.com and they were VERY RUDE! I am Deaf and
>
> need
>
>>to call people thru relay service. They said they will not accept a relay
>>call. I dialed 8 times to hear the same thing.
>>
>>I just called that 800 number you gave me and lead me to call Muller Co.
>>
>>Chuck
>
>
> Chuck,
>
> I hate to say this, but working in a business with an 800 number, we have
> received a fair number of relay calls. Each and every one has been an
> attempt at fraud.
>
> Our operator will spend 30 minutes or more on the line (at our cost), only
> to find out that the person on the other end wants to buy a large quantity
> of what we sell, have it shipped to an international address, and pay with
> an offshore cashiers check or foreign credit card.
>
> Now obviously, I am not implying that the hearing impaired are scammers -
> it's just that the scammers seem to have found this to be an anonymous way
> of plying their trade. It's unfortunate that this method of communication
> has been tainted for the people who need it. Our experience may have led
> some companies to institute a policy of not accepting relay calls.
>
> Gary
>
>
Try e-mailing them your questions if you can't get them via phone.
Dave
CNT wrote:
> I used "freud router bit" and few others.
>
> One came up www.freud-tools.com and they were VERY RUDE! I am Deaf and need
> to call people thru relay service. They said they will not accept a relay
> call. I dialed 8 times to hear the same thing.
>
> I just called that 800 number you gave me and lead me to call Muller Co.
>
> Chuck
here's the number 1-800-201-7575
David wrote:
> I can dig up an 800 number if online cancelling doesn't work.
>
> Dave
>
> Duane Bozarth wrote:
>
>> David wrote:
>>
>>> You can easily cancel an Amazon order on line.
>>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Maybe...I've tried on occasion almost immediately and it was already "in
>> the system" and wouldn't allow it. On an item w/ delayed delivery date,
>> probably. Just thought I'd mention it doesn't always let you even if
>> you try right after the submission.
I can dig up an 800 number if online cancelling doesn't work.
Dave
Duane Bozarth wrote:
> David wrote:
>
>>You can easily cancel an Amazon order on line.
>>
>
> ...
>
> Maybe...I've tried on occasion almost immediately and it was already "in
> the system" and wouldn't allow it. On an item w/ delayed delivery date,
> probably. Just thought I'd mention it doesn't always let you even if
> you try right after the submission.