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"S. Stern"

01/04/2006 4:25 PM

Need your help to glue panels of 6 panel door for stain glass installation.

I am installing a rectangular (long side running vertically) stain glass in
an interior 6 panel door. I want to position the glass in the upper portion
of the door. The rectangle will cut into the inside lower corners of the top
door panels and the inside upper corners of the middle door panels. In
addition, the upper door cross, holding these sections of the panels will
also be removed.

I am building a router jig to aid in the cut. I would like to glue all of
the panels in place before I cut out the rectangle, so the panels don't
shift position. I don't want to take the door apart. I was thinking that one
of the injected chair glues might be the perfect solution.

I need your help and suggestions,
Thanks


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"Gooey TARBALLS"

in reply to "S. Stern" on 01/04/2006 4:25 PM

02/04/2006 10:32 PM

Try drywall, mud and sand seams,


"Frank Drackman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "S. Stern" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>I am working on an existing interior 6 panel door. I think clamping
>>everything down while I route the rectangular cutout would be a major
>>undertaking in it's own right.
>>
>>
>
> I am not sure why you think that clamping something together would be a
> major undertaking. Do you do a lot of woodworking?
>

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"S. Stern"

in reply to "S. Stern" on 01/04/2006 4:25 PM

01/04/2006 10:59 PM

I am working on an existing interior 6 panel door. I think clamping
everything down while I route the rectangular cutout would be a major
undertaking in it's own right.

"Frank Drackman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "S. Stern" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I am installing a rectangular (long side running vertically) stain glass
>>in an interior 6 panel door. I want to position the glass in the upper
>>portion of the door. The rectangle will cut into the inside lower corners
>>of the top door panels and the inside upper corners of the middle door
>>panels. In addition, the upper door cross, holding these sections of the
>>panels will also be removed.
>>
>> I am building a router jig to aid in the cut. I would like to glue all of
>> the panels in place before I cut out the rectangle, so the panels don't
>> shift position. I don't want to take the door apart. I was thinking that
>> one of the injected chair glues might be the perfect solution.
>>
>> I need your help and suggestions,
>> Thanks
>>
>
> I am not completely clear if you are building a new door or installing the
> glass into a complete door that you want to add the glass. I am also not
> clear on your woodworking experience, and more information would help with
> the best answer.
>
> If you are making the door you probably don't want to glue any of the wood
> panels as they are usually free floating. I do agree that you don't want
> anything moving while you size the opening for the glass but you can clamp
> everything tight.
>
>
>

FD

"Frank Drackman"

in reply to "S. Stern" on 01/04/2006 4:25 PM

02/04/2006 11:19 AM


"S. Stern" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I am working on an existing interior 6 panel door. I think clamping
>everything down while I route the rectangular cutout would be a major
>undertaking in it's own right.
>
>

I am not sure why you think that clamping something together would be a
major undertaking. Do you do a lot of woodworking?

GT

"Gooey TARBALLS"

in reply to "S. Stern" on 01/04/2006 4:25 PM

03/04/2006 2:31 AM

Ooooops, sorry, wrong thread. Pls ignore.

"Gooey TARBALLS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Try drywall, mud and sand seams,
>
>
> "Frank Drackman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "S. Stern" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>I am working on an existing interior 6 panel door. I think clamping
>>>everything down while I route the rectangular cutout would be a major
>>>undertaking in it's own right.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I am not sure why you think that clamping something together would be a
>> major undertaking. Do you do a lot of woodworking?
>>
>
>

WH

"Walter H. Klaus"

in reply to "S. Stern" on 01/04/2006 4:25 PM

07/04/2006 5:36 PM

I was in the Stained Glass business for seven years and took numerous cross
and bible doors, and cut out the cross with a router. It makes a nice pocket
for stained glass panels. the remaining cross pieces just pull out of the
surround stiles. They are not glued.

Walter H. Klaus


"JeffB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm sorry, but it really sounds like you don't know what you are getting
> into. The "upper door cross" that you want to remove is an integral part
> of the skeleton of the door. The panels, that you want to clamp and route
> into, are floating "skins" that are held in place by the vertical stiles
> and horizontal rails that form the actual structure of the door. The
> panels are NOT glued in place for very good reasons. An appropriate design
> would have your stained glass panel sized to fit between the stiles and
> rails of a door - essentially replacing what is currently a wood panel.
> Not knowing any actual dimensions, I'm guessing that a complete rebuild of
> the door, with stiles and rails sized to fit to and frame your stained
> glass piece, is in order... And all this is assuming that you really have
> a solid wood frame and panel door, and not something that just looks like
> one...
> --
> JeffB
> remove no.spam. to email
>

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"S. Stern"

in reply to "S. Stern" on 01/04/2006 4:25 PM

02/04/2006 4:40 PM

Thanks for your information and comments. It was helpful.

"JeffB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm sorry, but it really sounds like you don't know what you are getting
> into. The "upper door cross" that you want to remove is an integral part
> of the skeleton of the door. The panels, that you want to clamp and route
> into, are floating "skins" that are held in place by the vertical stiles
> and horizontal rails that form the actual structure of the door. The
> panels are NOT glued in place for very good reasons. An appropriate design
> would have your stained glass panel sized to fit between the stiles and
> rails of a door - essentially replacing what is currently a wood panel.
> Not knowing any actual dimensions, I'm guessing that a complete rebuild of
> the door, with stiles and rails sized to fit to and frame your stained
> glass piece, is in order... And all this is assuming that you really have
> a solid wood frame and panel door, and not something that just looks like
> one...
> --
> JeffB
> remove no.spam. to email
>

Jj

JeffB

in reply to "S. Stern" on 01/04/2006 4:25 PM

02/04/2006 10:19 PM

I'm sorry, but it really sounds like you don't know what you are getting into.
The "upper door cross" that you want to remove is an integral part of the
skeleton of the door. The panels, that you want to clamp and route into, are
floating "skins" that are held in place by the vertical stiles and horizontal
rails that form the actual structure of the door. The panels are NOT glued in
place for very good reasons. An appropriate design would have your stained glass
panel sized to fit between the stiles and rails of a door - essentially
replacing what is currently a wood panel. Not knowing any actual dimensions, I'm
guessing that a complete rebuild of the door, with stiles and rails sized to fit
to and frame your stained glass piece, is in order... And all this is assuming
that you really have a solid wood frame and panel door, and not something that
just looks like one...
--
JeffB
remove no.spam. to email

FD

"Frank Drackman"

in reply to "S. Stern" on 01/04/2006 4:25 PM

01/04/2006 6:23 PM


"S. Stern" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am installing a rectangular (long side running vertically) stain glass in
>an interior 6 panel door. I want to position the glass in the upper portion
>of the door. The rectangle will cut into the inside lower corners of the
>top door panels and the inside upper corners of the middle door panels. In
>addition, the upper door cross, holding these sections of the panels will
>also be removed.
>
> I am building a router jig to aid in the cut. I would like to glue all of
> the panels in place before I cut out the rectangle, so the panels don't
> shift position. I don't want to take the door apart. I was thinking that
> one of the injected chair glues might be the perfect solution.
>
> I need your help and suggestions,
> Thanks
>

I am not completely clear if you are building a new door or installing the
glass into a complete door that you want to add the glass. I am also not
clear on your woodworking experience, and more information would help with
the best answer.

If you are making the door you probably don't want to glue any of the wood
panels as they are usually free floating. I do agree that you don't want
anything moving while you size the opening for the glass but you can clamp
everything tight.



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