A few years ago (not more than 3) I bought a 16 oz jar of Behlan's
super blond shellac flakes. They sat on the shelf and I just got around
to trying them. 75% of the jar sort of congealed into a solid mass but
there were plenty of flakes left.
Following directions in this group, I mixed about 1 oz of the flakes in
about 10 oz of denatured alcohol. I periodically stired it, shook it
and set it in hot water for 2 days. While it looks like the flakes
dissolved, if I hold it up to the light, I can see the texture of
flakes in suspension.
Yesterday I borrowed(!) the coffee grinder and ground up about an ounce
into powder and mixed it with 10 oz of alcohol. Same thing. If I hold
it up to the light I can see the powder in suspension. If I leave it
sit for a few hours, it becomes milky at the bottom and clear amber at
the top.
My question is, is this normal? Does shellac need to be stirred into
suspension for each use? Or should shellac mix down to a clear mixture?
I live in a dry climate and didn't expect to find the flakes congealed.
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Joe Donohue wrote:
> Yesterday I borrowed(!) the coffee grinder and ground up about an ounce
> into powder and mixed it with 10 oz of alcohol. Same thing. If I hold
> it up to the light I can see the powder in suspension. If I leave it
> sit for a few hours, it becomes milky at the bottom and clear amber at
> the top.
It sounds like the shellac flakes contains wax, which is the milky stuff that settles
out. Not all Behlan's shellac flakes are dewaxed. Are you sure it was their "Super
Blonde" shellac and not one that contain wax?
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Yes, it says "Behlan Master Super Blonde". It also says "wax free (99%
pure shellac resin)".
Joe Donohue
Nova wrote:
> Joe Donohue wrote:
>
> > Yesterday I borrowed(!) the coffee grinder and ground up about an
> > ounce into powder and mixed it with 10 oz of alcohol. Same thing.
> > If I hold it up to the light I can see the powder in suspension. If
> > I leave it sit for a few hours, it becomes milky at the bottom and
> > clear amber at the top.
>
> It sounds like the shellac flakes contains wax, which is the milky
> stuff that settles out. Not all Behlan's shellac flakes are dewaxed.
> Are you sure it was their "Super Blonde" shellac and not one that
> contain wax?
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
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OK. I'm going to try straining, although I didn't expect to have to do
that with dewaxed flakes. The residue, especially the one made with the
powder, looks quite fine in the glass. Would women's hosiery do?
Joe Donohue
Anthony Diodati wrote:
> I think you have to strain it 1st. The un mixed flakes will have a
> longer shelf life than store bought pre mixed, but once mixed not so
> much. strain it and test on scrap 1st. to see if it dries OK.
> Tony D.
> "Lawrence A. Ramsey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Yes and I am sitting on 10 pounds that are 5 years old and been in a
> > garage. Been exposed to110 degrees in the summer and 30 in the
> > winter. Don't have much hope for it but can't throw it away.
> >
> > On 21 Jan 2004 07:00:10 -0600, "Joe Donohue" <woodturner at Forma Ex
> > Silva dot com> wrote:
> >
> > > A few years ago (not more than 3) I bought a 16 oz jar of Behlan's
> > > super blond shellac flakes. They sat on the shelf and I just got
> > > around to trying them. 75% of the jar sort of congealed into a
> > > solid mass but there were plenty of flakes left.
> > >
> > > Following directions in this group, I mixed about 1 oz of the
> > > flakes in about 10 oz of denatured alcohol. I periodically stired
> > > it, shook it and set it in hot water for 2 days. While it looks
> > > like the flakes dissolved, if I hold it up to the light, I can
> > > see the texture of flakes in suspension.
> > >
> > > Yesterday I borrowed(!) the coffee grinder and ground up about an
> > > ounce into powder and mixed it with 10 oz of alcohol. Same thing.
> > > If I hold it up to the light I can see the powder in suspension.
> > > If I leave it sit for a few hours, it becomes milky at the bottom
> > > and clear amber at the top.
> > >
> > >
> > > My question is, is this normal? Does shellac need to be stirred
> > > into suspension for each use? Or should shellac mix down to a
> > > clear mixture?
> > >
> > > I live in a dry climate and didn't expect to find the flakes
> > > congealed.
> >
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I think you have to strain it 1st. The un mixed flakes will have a longer
shelf life than store bought pre mixed, but once mixed not so much.
strain it and test on scrap 1st. to see if it dries OK.
Tony D.
"Lawrence A. Ramsey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yes and I am sitting on 10 pounds that are 5 years old and been in a
> garage. Been exposed to110 degrees in the summer and 30 in the winter.
> Don't have much hope for it but can't throw it away.
>
> On 21 Jan 2004 07:00:10 -0600, "Joe Donohue" <woodturner at Forma Ex
> Silva dot com> wrote:
>
> >A few years ago (not more than 3) I bought a 16 oz jar of Behlan's
> >super blond shellac flakes. They sat on the shelf and I just got around
> >to trying them. 75% of the jar sort of congealed into a solid mass but
> >there were plenty of flakes left.
> >
> >Following directions in this group, I mixed about 1 oz of the flakes in
> >about 10 oz of denatured alcohol. I periodically stired it, shook it
> >and set it in hot water for 2 days. While it looks like the flakes
> >dissolved, if I hold it up to the light, I can see the texture of
> >flakes in suspension.
> >
> >Yesterday I borrowed(!) the coffee grinder and ground up about an ounce
> >into powder and mixed it with 10 oz of alcohol. Same thing. If I hold
> >it up to the light I can see the powder in suspension. If I leave it
> >sit for a few hours, it becomes milky at the bottom and clear amber at
> >the top.
> >
> >
> >My question is, is this normal? Does shellac need to be stirred into
> >suspension for each use? Or should shellac mix down to a clear mixture?
> >
> >I live in a dry climate and didn't expect to find the flakes congealed.
>
Yes and I am sitting on 10 pounds that are 5 years old and been in a
garage. Been exposed to110 degrees in the summer and 30 in the winter.
Don't have much hope for it but can't throw it away.
On 21 Jan 2004 07:00:10 -0600, "Joe Donohue" <woodturner at Forma Ex
Silva dot com> wrote:
>A few years ago (not more than 3) I bought a 16 oz jar of Behlan's
>super blond shellac flakes. They sat on the shelf and I just got around
>to trying them. 75% of the jar sort of congealed into a solid mass but
>there were plenty of flakes left.
>
>Following directions in this group, I mixed about 1 oz of the flakes in
>about 10 oz of denatured alcohol. I periodically stired it, shook it
>and set it in hot water for 2 days. While it looks like the flakes
>dissolved, if I hold it up to the light, I can see the texture of
>flakes in suspension.
>
>Yesterday I borrowed(!) the coffee grinder and ground up about an ounce
>into powder and mixed it with 10 oz of alcohol. Same thing. If I hold
>it up to the light I can see the powder in suspension. If I leave it
>sit for a few hours, it becomes milky at the bottom and clear amber at
>the top.
>
>
>My question is, is this normal? Does shellac need to be stirred into
>suspension for each use? Or should shellac mix down to a clear mixture?
>
>I live in a dry climate and didn't expect to find the flakes congealed.