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[email protected] (English Teacher)

20/10/2003 11:35 PM

SMALLTALK or PERL ?

Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
Learning curves any different?

Thanks!


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LL

[email protected] (Leicaddict)

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:35 PM

28/10/2003 1:12 AM

[email protected] (English Teacher) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
> Learning curves any different?
>
> Thanks!

They are both useless and dead. Learn Java/JSP/EJB or MS Dotnet (VBnet or C#).

wS

[email protected] (Sascha D?rdelmann)

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:35 PM

22/10/2003 7:49 AM

[email protected] (English Teacher) wrote:
> Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
> Learning curves any different?

Useful to learn or useful to teach? As others said, it all depends on
what you want to do with the language.

I don't think Perl is a good language to start with. I'll give you two
alternatives for perl:

1. Ruby is said to be greater than (Smalltalk+Perl)/2 to illustrate
that Ruby has a lot in common with both languages and provides more
benefit than just a little bit of both worlds.

2. Python has more users than Ruby but similar features and therefore
might be a good choice, too.

There's nothing wrong with Smalltalk, you just have to decide which
Smalltalk dialect to take ;-)

Squeak Smalltalk is an interesting language to teach young children
the basics of computer programming. See http://squeakland.org for the
details. But Squeak is also suitable for learning computer science at
any age in many different fields such as graphics, sound, networking
or interpreter design. And with Squeak knowledge behind there's no
problem in learning other Smalltalk dialects or other object oriented
languages as Ruby, Python (or even Java and C# ;-)

Cheers
Sascha

VL

"Vladimir Los"

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:35 PM

21/10/2003 11:33 AM

Cmalltalk ofcrz!

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Non sibi!
Wlad [UR3LOS]
"English Teacher" <[email protected]> ???????/???????? ?
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> Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
> Learning curves any different?
>
> Thanks!

Fe

"Frank ess"

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:35 PM

22/10/2003 6:43 PM


"Sascha D?rdelmann" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (English Teacher) wrote:
> > Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
> > Learning curves any different?
>
> Useful to learn or useful to teach? As others said, it all depends on
> what you want to do with the language.
>
> I don't think Perl is a good language to start with. I'll give you two
> alternatives for perl:
>
> 1. Ruby is said to be greater than (Smalltalk+Perl)/2 to illustrate
> that Ruby has a lot in common with both languages and provides more
> benefit than just a little bit of both worlds.
>
> 2. Python has more users than Ruby but similar features and therefore
> might be a good choice, too.
>
> There's nothing wrong with Smalltalk, you just have to decide which
> Smalltalk dialect to take ;-)
>
> Squeak Smalltalk is an interesting language to teach young children
> the basics of computer programming. See http://squeakland.org for the
> details. But Squeak is also suitable for learning computer science at
> any age in many different fields such as graphics, sound, networking
> or interpreter design. And with Squeak knowledge behind there's no
> problem in learning other Smalltalk dialects or other object oriented
> languages as Ruby, Python (or even Java and C# ;-)
>
> Cheers
> Sascha

shhh

JH

Jim Hutchison

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:35 PM

06/11/2003 11:27 PM

I don't know smalltalk, but Perl was fairly easy to move to from ksh
(Unix Korn shell). It's more C-like than ksh, has a bizzillion
modules to do anything from graphics to networking, and is always
updated.

It's current, and quite alive.

jim h


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On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:05:34 -0000, Thomas Worthington <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 28 Oct 2003 01:12:37 -0800, Leicaddict <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>> [email protected] (English Teacher) wrote in message
>> news:<[email protected]>...
>>> Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
>>> Learning curves any different?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>
>> They are both useless and dead. Learn Java/JSP/EJB or MS Dotnet (VBnet
>> or C#).
>
>I see, Perl's dead but Java isn't?! (C-hashed was never alive)
>
>What colour's the sky in your world?
>
>TW

TW

Thomas Worthington

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:35 PM

05/11/2003 6:05 PM

On 28 Oct 2003 01:12:37 -0800, Leicaddict <[email protected]>
wrote:

> [email protected] (English Teacher) wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> Which would be a more useful language to learn, Smalltalk or Pearl?
>> Learning curves any different?
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> They are both useless and dead. Learn Java/JSP/EJB or MS Dotnet (VBnet
> or C#).

I see, Perl's dead but Java isn't?! (C-hashed was never alive)

What colour's the sky in your world?

TW


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