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[email protected] (English Teacher)

20/10/2003 11:39 PM

PHP or COLDFUSION

Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION? I know
Coldfusion is popular in the work force. Is PHP?

Thanks!


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RH

"Richard Hockey"

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:39 PM

21/10/2003 10:10 PM


"English Teacher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION? I know
> Coldfusion is popular in the work force. Is PHP?

Coldfusion is very easy to learn, due to it being tag based. For example to
query a database and display the results

<html>
<body>
<cfquery name="songlist" datasource="mp3">
SELECT title,artist,bitrate,genre,length FROM songs ORDER BY artist
</cfquery>

<table>
<cfoutput query="songlist">
<tr>
<td>title= #songlist.title#</td>
<td>artist = #songlist.artist#</td>
<td>genre = #songlist.genre#</td>
<td> bitrate = #songlist.bitrate#</td>
<td>lenght = #songlist.length#</td>
</tr>
</cfoutput>
</table>
</body>
</html>

the above code would carry out a query on the coldfusion data source mp3,
storing the results in a recordset songlist. It would then loop through the
recordset displaying the title,artist,genre,bitrate and length fields of
each record in the recordset.

This a pretty trivial example, but it illustrates how easy coldfusion is to
use

advantages of coldfusion:
ease of use
very good integrated text search facility (Verity engine)
based on J2EE (coldfusion converts cfm pages into java which are the run
using the J2EE engine)
integrates well with flash
includes a number of built in systems for generating form validation, charts
and graphs automatically

disadvantages:
the first time a cfm page is called, it has to be converted to J2EE, after
that if the page is called again it can be retrieved from the coldfusion
server's cache.
mainly MS based
coldfusion server is quite expensive
CF hosting tends to be rarer and more expensive than for PHP

>
> Thanks!

LL

[email protected] (Leicaddict)

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:39 PM

28/10/2003 1:11 AM

[email protected] (English Teacher) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION? I know
> Coldfusion is popular in the work force. Is PHP?
>
> Thanks!

They are both useless. Learn MS dotnet. C# or VBnet. That is the
future for at least the next 10 years.

Kr

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:39 PM

28/10/2003 1:57 PM

[email protected] (Leicaddict) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> [email protected] (English Teacher) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION? I know
> > Coldfusion is popular in the work force. Is PHP?
> >
> > Thanks!
>
> They are both useless. Learn MS dotnet. C# or VBnet. That is the
> future for at least the next 10 years.

hmm, I can't imagine Coldfusion and PHP being rendered useless. Out of
curiosity, why do you say this.?

RD

"Randell D."

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:39 PM

21/10/2003 7:09 AM


"English Teacher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION? I know
> Coldfusion is popular in the work force. Is PHP?
>
> Thanks!

I don't know cold fusion and... considering this is a php newsgroup I don't
know how well you'll get an unbiased answer... however PHP is free and I
believe runs on alot more environments... I *think* coldfusion is limited to
a microsoft environment only... so while it (coldfusion) is popular I think
you'll find that PHP is just as popular (if not more so) because of its
cost, the availability of support, the documentation and the environments it
will run on. Before I got my Apache/Linux server running (on a
Pentium400mhz) I had Apache with PHP and MySQL on my Windoze98 266mhz
laptop. Migrating to a linux platform required little change...

I'm not anti-microsoft, but I think one is limiting themselves when they
pick up skillsets like ASP or VB because they are limited on their
platforms... and if you're going to teach yourself, they can be expensive
skills just to get them working in your own not-for-profit environment...

Hope that helps you decide...
laters
randelld

JM

"Jim Moseby"

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:39 PM

28/10/2003 8:39 AM

"Leicaddict" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (English Teacher) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION? I know
> > Coldfusion is popular in the work force. Is PHP?
> >
> > Thanks!
>
> They are both useless. Learn MS dotnet. C# or VBnet. That is the
> future for at least the next 10 years.

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Fe

"Frank ess"

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:39 PM

21/10/2003 10:09 PM


"Richard Hockey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "English Teacher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION? I know
> > Coldfusion is popular in the work force. Is PHP?
>
> Coldfusion is very easy to learn, due to it being tag based. For example
to
> query a database and display the results
>
> <html>
> <body>
> <cfquery name="songlist" datasource="mp3">
> SELECT title,artist,bitrate,genre,length FROM songs ORDER BY artist
> </cfquery>
>
> <table>
> <cfoutput query="songlist">
> <tr>
> <td>title= #songlist.title#</td>
> <td>artist = #songlist.artist#</td>
> <td>genre = #songlist.genre#</td>
> <td> bitrate = #songlist.bitrate#</td>
> <td>lenght = #songlist.length#</td>
> </tr>
> </cfoutput>
> </table>
> </body>
> </html>
>
> the above code would carry out a query on the coldfusion data source mp3,
> storing the results in a recordset songlist. It would then loop through
the
> recordset displaying the title,artist,genre,bitrate and length fields of
> each record in the recordset.
>
> This a pretty trivial example, but it illustrates how easy coldfusion is
to
> use
>
> advantages of coldfusion:
> ease of use
> very good integrated text search facility (Verity engine)
> based on J2EE (coldfusion converts cfm pages into java which are the run
> using the J2EE engine)
> integrates well with flash
> includes a number of built in systems for generating form validation,
charts
> and graphs automatically
>
> disadvantages:
> the first time a cfm page is called, it has to be converted to J2EE, after
> that if the page is called again it can be retrieved from the coldfusion
> server's cache.
> mainly MS based
> coldfusion server is quite expensive
> CF hosting tends to be rarer and more expensive than for PHP
>
> >
> > Thanks!
>
>
shhhh

Fe

"Frank ess"

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:39 PM

21/10/2003 4:28 PM


"R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (English Teacher) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION?
>
> Useful--- I don't know.
>
> Cool --- PHP.
>
> I have learnt few web scripting languages including Coldfusion, ASP,
PHP...
> But, only PHP attracted me well.
>
> But, it seems Coldfusion programmers are paid higher than PHP
programmers.
>
> ---
> "If there is a God, he must be a sadist!"
> Email: rrjanbiah-at-Y!com

not here

nR

[email protected] (R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah)

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:39 PM

21/10/2003 8:50 AM

[email protected] (English Teacher) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION?

Useful--- I don't know.

Cool --- PHP.

I have learnt few web scripting languages including Coldfusion, ASP, PHP...
But, only PHP attracted me well.

But, it seems Coldfusion programmers are paid higher than PHP programmers.

---
"If there is a God, he must be a sadist!"
Email: rrjanbiah-at-Y!com

TL

"Todd L"

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:39 PM

21/10/2003 8:57 AM

My God, I can't believe you people are responding to these posts... LOL...

"R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (English Teacher) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION?
>
> Useful--- I don't know.
>
> Cool --- PHP.
>
> I have learnt few web scripting languages including Coldfusion, ASP,
PHP...
> But, only PHP attracted me well.
>
> But, it seems Coldfusion programmers are paid higher than PHP
programmers.
>
> ---
> "If there is a God, he must be a sadist!"
> Email: rrjanbiah-at-Y!com

SW

"Scott"

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:39 PM

21/10/2003 6:09 PM

Did the name of the group change? rec.photo.computerlanguage?

"English Teacher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION? I know
> Coldfusion is popular in the work force. Is PHP?
>
> Thanks!

JS

"Jeffrey Silverman"

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:39 PM

22/10/2003 1:55 PM

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:39:36 -0700, English Teacher wrote:

> Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION? I know Coldfusion
> is popular in the work force. Is PHP?
>
> Thanks!

Whats the deal with the selection of crossposted NGs? rec.woodworking??
--
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Fe

"Frank ess"

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:39 PM

21/10/2003 7:01 PM


"Scott" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:nDelb.605619$cF.272466@rwcrnsc53...
> Did the name of the group change? rec.photo.computerlanguage?
>
> "English Teacher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION? I know
> > Coldfusion is popular in the work force. Is PHP?
> >
> > Thanks!
>
>
shhh

AJ

"Andy J"

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:39 PM

21/10/2003 11:02 AM

>I *think* coldfusion is limited to a microsoft environment only.
ColdFusion supports Windows, Linux, Solaris, HP-UX, AIX, and now its on a
Java base you can get it to work on the Mac aswell.


Which is better to learn all depends on what you really hope to get at.
There has been a lot of talk around newsgroups which is the better server
side language with each corner putting up a good fight.

ColdFusion MX is built upon a Java pltform so you can now, with no effort
access Java libararys and you can also host .JSP pages as well as servlets.

If i was you, personally i'd learn both, theres no point being stuck to just
one language, you are just limiting yourself that way. For more info though
check out http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/ and
http://www.php.net and all the forums as they are littered with this type of
question

Andy Jarrett
www.andyjarrett.co.uk



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