RC

"Ralph Compton"

26/03/2011 10:17 PM

4" number templates for router needed

What it is, the state building/fire codes require that the address number in
front of a residence be in numbers at least 4" tall and 6" tall for
businesses. So if I want to do an address sign I need to do it in these
sizes.

I have googled but don't find such a thing. Doing freehand is not practical
for my project.

I'd like to have templates for both 4" and 6" numbers as well as letters.

Any suggestions?

Ralph
So. Calif.


This topic has 22 replies

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

26/03/2011 11:37 PM


"Ralph Compton" wrote:

> What it is, the state building/fire codes require that the address
> number in front of a residence be in numbers at least 4" tall and
> 6" tall for businesses. So if I want to do an address sign I need
> to do it in these sizes.
>
> I have googled but don't find such a thing. Doing freehand is not
> practical for my project.
>
> I'd like to have templates for both 4" and 6" numbers as well as
> letters.
>
> Any suggestions?

---------------------------------

Start looking for a pantograph unit for a router.

It will be pricey.

Have you looked at precut wooden or plastic sign letters?

I used 6" plastic sign numbers and mastic on the front door almost 50
years ago.

As far as I know, they are still in service.


Lew

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

27/03/2011 2:02 PM


"CW" wrote:

> I knew that you must be a hermit. Havn't seen the outside of your
> front door in 50 years...

------------------------------
Hasn't been my house in over 20 years.

Lew

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

27/03/2011 8:43 PM


"Ralph Compton" wrote:

> yes, that's pretty much what I was looking for. Thanks.

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=22179
------------------------
How does this address your need for 6" letters?

Lew


LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

28/03/2011 6:30 PM


"Ralph Compton" wrote:

> It doesn't, but getting the 4" is at least heading in the right
> direction.
----------------------------
SFWIW, federally documented boats are required to use 6" block letters
for the vessel name and 4" block letters for the hailing port.

You might want to check with a sign shop or the gov't body to
determine required font.

Since you seem to have a scroll saw, making you own may not be such a
big deal.

1/4" Birch ply with a couple of coats of shellac would make some neat
templates, IMHO.

Have fun.

Lew



Ja

John

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

29/03/2011 1:42 PM

I did some numbers quite successfully not to long ago.

In Corel Draw, I have a script that rounds the corners of a polygon,
so I took some block numbers and rounded the corners to 5/8" (for a
1/2" router bit), and printed them on a laser printer. I then ironed
the paper onto a scrap sheet of MDF (laser printers use heat activated
ink! A trick I learned from this forum), and using a skill saw and a
router, I carefully crafted that into some nice templates. I then
taped those to the back of some glued up cedar (so the numbers
appeared backwards...), and using a pin router, routed the front. I
then used a carving chisel to add texture to the background.

I thought I could get an inverse form easily by using plaster of
paris, but that didn't work (at least on my first attempt). One of
these days I'll get some free time, and I'll try another method.
Here's some pics:

http://www.ulvr.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1283824903

If you'd like, I can send you a pdf with some numbers (you'd have to
give me the height and router bit size).


John

RC

"Ralph Compton"

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

27/03/2011 8:11 PM

yes, that's pretty much what I was looking for. Thanks.


"PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ralph Compton wrote:
>> What it is, the state building/fire codes require that the address
>> number in front of a residence be in numbers at least 4" tall and 6"
>> tall for businesses. So if I want to do an address sign I need to do
>> it in these sizes.
>>
>> I have googled but don't find such a thing. Doing freehand is not
>> practical for my project.
>>
>> I'd like to have templates for both 4" and 6" numbers as well as
>> letters.
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>
> Well here are 4" router templates
>
> http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=22179
>
>
>
> --
> PV
>
> If you can't fix it with a hammer.......you have an electrical problem
>
>
>

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

27/03/2011 9:23 AM


"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> I used 6" plastic sign numbers and mastic on the front door almost 50
> years ago.
>
> As far as I know, they are still in service.

I knew that you must be a hermit. Havn't seen the outside of your front door
in 50 years...

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

27/03/2011 8:13 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> What it is, the state building/fire codes require that the address number in
> front of a residence be in numbers at least 4" tall and 6" tall for
> businesses. So if I want to do an address sign I need to do it in these
> sizes.
>
> I have googled but don't find such a thing. Doing freehand is not practical
> for my project.
>
> I'd like to have templates for both 4" and 6" numbers as well as letters.
>
> Any suggestions?

Choose an appropriate font, print the numbers out in the size you need,
glue the paper to some masonite, take your jigsaw, and cut them out.
You now have templates.


>
> Ralph
> So. Calif.

pp

phorbin

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

01/04/2011 8:40 AM

In article <940a1145-df21-4bcb-a076-
[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...


> I thought I could get an inverse form easily by using plaster of
> paris, but that didn't work (at least on my first attempt). One of
> these days I'll get some free time, and I'll try another method.
> Here's some pics:

http://www.smooth-on.com

RC

"Ralph Compton"

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

27/03/2011 2:27 PM

I wanted to make custom address signs for friends and neighbors but do need
to have min. 4" numbers although names, etc., can be smaller.

Plan B is to make my own templates on the scroll saw and make my own jig to
hold them together. More trouble, nusance, but probably more rewarding when
the task is done.

Thanks for the advice.


"Ralph Compton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What it is, the state building/fire codes require that the address number
> in front of a residence be in numbers at least 4" tall and 6" tall for
> businesses. So if I want to do an address sign I need to do it in these
> sizes.
>
> I have googled but don't find such a thing. Doing freehand is not
> practical for my project.
>
> I'd like to have templates for both 4" and 6" numbers as well as letters.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Ralph
> So. Calif.

Pe

"PV"

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

27/03/2011 6:58 PM

-MIKE- wrote:
> On 3/27/11 7:16 PM, PV wrote:
>> Ralph Compton wrote:
>>> What it is, the state building/fire codes require that the address
>>> number in front of a residence be in numbers at least 4" tall and
>>> 6" tall for businesses. So if I want to do an address sign I need
>>> to do it in these sizes.
>>>
>>> I have googled but don't find such a thing. Doing freehand is not
>>> practical for my project.
>>>
>>> I'd like to have templates for both 4" and 6" numbers as well as
>>> letters.
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>
>> Well here are 4" router templates
>>
>> http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=22179
>>
>
> Those scream, "high school shop class" to me.

And your point is?

--
PV

If you can't fix it with a hammer.......you have an electrical problem


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wb8nbs

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

27/03/2011 7:35 PM

On Mar 27, 10:12=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 22:17:15 -0700, "Ralph Compton"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >What it is, the state building/fire codes require that the address numbe=
r in
> >front of a residence be in numbers at least 4" tall =A0and 6" tall for
> >businesses. =A0So if I want to do an address sign I need to do it in the=
se
> >sizes.
>
> >I have googled but don't find such a thing. =A0Doing freehand is not pra=
ctical
> >for my project.
>
> >I'd like to have templates for both 4" and 6" numbers as well as letters=
.
>
> >Any suggestions?

If this is a one shot project, you can print letters any size from a
word processor program. Glue the printout to plywood and cut it out.
Set the word processor to do an outline of the font and it will be
easier to cut.

Also see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DiUGkroZus_Y and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dvtm4u583YOQ

Nn

Nova

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

27/03/2011 6:53 PM

On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 22:17:15 -0700, "Ralph Compton"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>What it is, the state building/fire codes require that the address number in
>front of a residence be in numbers at least 4" tall and 6" tall for
>businesses. So if I want to do an address sign I need to do it in these
>sizes.
>
>I have googled but don't find such a thing. Doing freehand is not practical
>for my project.
>
>I'd like to have templates for both 4" and 6" numbers as well as letters.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Ralph
>So. Calif.


Rockler 4" Interlock Signmaker's Number Templates. Item # 31093 at
$29.99.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

27/03/2011 7:12 AM

On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 22:17:15 -0700, "Ralph Compton"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>What it is, the state building/fire codes require that the address number in
>front of a residence be in numbers at least 4" tall and 6" tall for
>businesses. So if I want to do an address sign I need to do it in these
>sizes.
>
>I have googled but don't find such a thing. Doing freehand is not practical
>for my project.
>
>I'd like to have templates for both 4" and 6" numbers as well as letters.
>
>Any suggestions?

If you're anywhere near Taft, CA (Bakersfield area) you're in luck. Go
see Gunner. He can either produce templates (or numbers) for you (for
pay, please) or sell you the extra Gorton Pantograph mill he has for
sale. Times are tough, so he can use the ducats.

--
Make the best use of what is in your power,
and take the rest as it happens.
-- Epictetus

Ff

FrozenNorth

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

27/03/2011 12:25 PM

On 3/27/11 12:23 PM, CW wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>> I used 6" plastic sign numbers and mastic on the front door almost 50
>> years ago.
>>
>> As far as I know, they are still in service.
>
> I knew that you must be a hermit. Havn't seen the outside of your front door
> in 50 years...
>
>
he still has that nice boat he is building in the basement. :-)

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

BB

Bill

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

27/03/2011 4:22 PM

J. Clarke wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> What it is, the state building/fire codes require that the address number in
>> front of a residence be in numbers at least 4" tall and 6" tall for
>> businesses. So if I want to do an address sign I need to do it in these
>> sizes.
>>
>> I have googled but don't find such a thing. Doing freehand is not practical
>> for my project.
>>
>> I'd like to have templates for both 4" and 6" numbers as well as letters.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>
> Choose an appropriate font, print the numbers out in the size you need,
> glue the paper to some masonite, take your jigsaw, and cut them out.
> You now have templates.

I did that once in MS-Word, it let me spread my letters across 30" in a
gentle arc and print it in 3 pages. I was able to effortlessly
"test-fit" until it was just the size and look I wanted. Of course,
reviewing the orginal question, my letter were not 4 or 6 inches, but
only half that, so YMMV.

Bill


>
>
>>
>> Ralph
>> So. Calif.
>
>

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

27/03/2011 7:24 PM

On 3/27/11 7:16 PM, PV wrote:
> Ralph Compton wrote:
>> What it is, the state building/fire codes require that the address
>> number in front of a residence be in numbers at least 4" tall and 6"
>> tall for businesses. So if I want to do an address sign I need to do
>> it in these sizes.
>>
>> I have googled but don't find such a thing. Doing freehand is not
>> practical for my project.
>>
>> I'd like to have templates for both 4" and 6" numbers as well as
>> letters.
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>
> Well here are 4" router templates
>
> http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=22179
>

Those scream, "high school shop class" to me.



--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

27/03/2011 9:43 PM

On 3/27/11 7:58 PM, PV wrote:
> -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 3/27/11 7:16 PM, PV wrote:
>>> Ralph Compton wrote:
>>>> What it is, the state building/fire codes require that the address
>>>> number in front of a residence be in numbers at least 4" tall and
>>>> 6" tall for businesses. So if I want to do an address sign I need
>>>> to do it in these sizes.
>>>>
>>>> I have googled but don't find such a thing. Doing freehand is not
>>>> practical for my project.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to have templates for both 4" and 6" numbers as well as
>>>> letters.
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well here are 4" router templates
>>>
>>> http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=22179
>>>
>>
>> Those scream, "high school shop class" to me.
>
> And your point is?
>

That's not clear enough for you? :-)

The results look cheap and juvenile. Maybe it's the font they used for
the templates. The examples in the images don't exactly portray "master
woodworker" to me. More like 4H project.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

cc

"chaniarts"

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

29/03/2011 1:55 PM

John wrote:
> I did some numbers quite successfully not to long ago.
>
> In Corel Draw, I have a script that rounds the corners of a polygon,
> so I took some block numbers and rounded the corners to 5/8" (for a
> 1/2" router bit), and printed them on a laser printer. I then ironed
> the paper onto a scrap sheet of MDF (laser printers use heat activated
> ink! A trick I learned from this forum), and using a skill saw and a
> router, I carefully crafted that into some nice templates. I then
> taped those to the back of some glued up cedar (so the numbers
> appeared backwards...), and using a pin router, routed the front. I
> then used a carving chisel to add texture to the background.
>
> I thought I could get an inverse form easily by using plaster of
> paris, but that didn't work (at least on my first attempt). One of
> these days I'll get some free time, and I'll try another method.

you need a release. try coating the wood with varnish, then that with
murphy's oil soap. also make sure you don't have undercuts (sides tapered
slightly so that the wood can be lifted out.

RC

"Ralph Compton"

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

28/03/2011 5:19 PM

It doesn't, but getting the 4" is at least heading in the right direction.
And I am greatful for responses that point me in the right direction. Too
many newsgroups are not helpful at all, this one seems to be populated with
much more helpful people. But then, I have observed that woodworkers do
seem to be helpful people.


"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ralph Compton" wrote:
>
>> yes, that's pretty much what I was looking for. Thanks.
>
> http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=22179
> ------------------------
> How does this address your need for 6" letters?
>
> Lew
>
>
>

PB

Peter Bennett

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

29/03/2011 6:19 PM

On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 22:17:15 -0700, "Ralph Compton"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>What it is, the state building/fire codes require that the address number in
>front of a residence be in numbers at least 4" tall and 6" tall for
>businesses. So if I want to do an address sign I need to do it in these
>sizes.
>
>I have googled but don't find such a thing. Doing freehand is not practical
>for my project.
>
>I'd like to have templates for both 4" and 6" numbers as well as letters.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Ralph
>So. Calif.

See http://woodgears.ca/pantograph/index.html for a possible
solution...


--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

Pe

"PV"

in reply to "Ralph Compton" on 26/03/2011 10:17 PM

27/03/2011 6:16 PM

Ralph Compton wrote:
> What it is, the state building/fire codes require that the address
> number in front of a residence be in numbers at least 4" tall and 6"
> tall for businesses. So if I want to do an address sign I need to do
> it in these sizes.
>
> I have googled but don't find such a thing. Doing freehand is not
> practical for my project.
>
> I'd like to have templates for both 4" and 6" numbers as well as
> letters.
> Any suggestions?
>

Well here are 4" router templates

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=22179



--
PV

If you can't fix it with a hammer.......you have an electrical problem



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