I'm looking for suggestions on paint for my bookcase project.
The base cabinets and bookcases are being built from poplar plywood with
poplar face frames, door frames and edging.
For the past year or so I've used Benjamin Moore's Advance line of paint
on a few projects but I'm a little concerned about some of the reviews
I've read recently regarding longevity. I also agree with the reviews that
say it can be a little hard to work with (orange peel, hard to re-work
if a drip appears, etc.) When it works, it's really good looking paint,
but I've not used it for anything this big before.
There will be lots of brush work and (hopefully) rolling on the wide
areas. I am by no means an expert painter, so ease of application is
kind of important.
Cure time is also a question. I don't want to want to wait weeks to put
the bookcases to use (of course I will if I have to) so if anyone has
thoughts on that (and I'm sure your do) please toss them in too. Advance
has been noted to have a fairly long cure time.
We might as well discuss primer also. It is as simple as "use whatever
primer is recommended on the can of paint chosen"?
Thanks!
On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 13:29:01 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 1/28/18 1:16 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 11:49:58 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/28/18 11:01 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>> I'm looking for suggestions on paint for my bookcase project.
>>>>
>>>> The base cabinets and bookcases are being built from poplar plywood with
>>>> poplar face frames, door frames and edging.
>>>>
>>>> For the past year or so I've used Benjamin Moore's Advance line of paint
>>>> on a few projects but I'm a little concerned about some of the reviews
>>>> I've read recently regarding longevity. I also agree with the reviews that
>>>> say it can be a little hard to work with (orange peel, hard to re-work
>>>> if a drip appears, etc.) When it works, it's really good looking paint,
>>>> but I've not used it for anything this big before.
>>>>
>>>> There will be lots of brush work and (hopefully) rolling on the wide
>>>> areas. I am by no means an expert painter, so ease of application is
>>>> kind of important.
>>>>
>>>> Cure time is also a question. I don't want to want to wait weeks to put
>>>> the bookcases to use (of course I will if I have to) so if anyone has
>>>> thoughts on that (and I'm sure your do) please toss them in too. Advance
>>>> has been noted to have a fairly long cure time.
>>>>
>>>> We might as well discuss primer also. It is as simple as "use whatever
>>>> primer is recommended on the can of paint chosen"?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am by no means a painting expert, but I've learn some things every
>>> time I do another set of bookcases.
>>>
>>> 1. Flood additives. <https://www.flood.com/products/paint-additives>
>>> These are awesome in making the paint go on smoothly and level out
>>> brush/roller marks.
>>
>> I'll definitely second the Flood Floetrol recommendation.
>>
>> For base cabinets I've found a Melamine paint to work very well. I
>> think it was CIL, can't remember for sure - but it's a water based
>> alkyd that flows out very well, leaving a nice "sheen" - not a high
>> gloss, but not an eggshell either. REALLY nice for cabinetry.
>>
>> It dried "hard" like an enamel, not gooey like some latex.
>
>Would you mind pointing to a link that might have more info or a similar
>product?
Google "melamine paint" and mabee add CIL?
On Sunday, January 28, 2018 at 2:40:32 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 09:01:26 -0800 (PST)
> DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > reviews that say it can be a little hard to work with (orange peel,
> > hard to re-work if a drip appears, etc.) When it works, it's really
>
> thought orange peel is a function of paint amount and not the paint
> ambient air temp probably has a role too
Paint amount and application error
>
> > There will be lots of brush work and (hopefully) rolling on the wide
> > areas. I am by no means an expert painter, so ease of application is
> > kind of important.
>
> why not spray it on or get the small diameter roller with the fine
> nap
>
Spaying is not an option and of course I would use a roller appropriate for the job.
>
> > Cure time is also a question. I don't want to want to wait weeks to
>
> read the label as most have comprehensive info on application
Duh.
>
>
> > We might as well discuss primer also. It is as simple as "use whatever
> > primer is recommended on the can of paint chosen"?
>
> primer usually cheaper and usually the way to go
Double duh.
On 1/28/2018 11:01 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> I'm looking for suggestions on paint for my bookcase project.
>
> The base cabinets and bookcases are being built from poplar plywood with
> poplar face frames, door frames and edging.
>
> For the past year or so I've used Benjamin Moore's Advance line of paint
> on a few projects but I'm a little concerned about some of the reviews
> I've read recently regarding longevity. I also agree with the reviews that
> say it can be a little hard to work with (orange peel, hard to re-work
> if a drip appears, etc.) When it works, it's really good looking paint,
> but I've not used it for anything this big before.
>
> There will be lots of brush work and (hopefully) rolling on the wide
> areas. I am by no means an expert painter, so ease of application is
> kind of important.
>
> Cure time is also a question. I don't want to want to wait weeks to put
> the bookcases to use (of course I will if I have to) so if anyone has
> thoughts on that (and I'm sure your do) please toss them in too. Advance
> has been noted to have a fairly long cure time.
>
> We might as well discuss primer also. It is as simple as "use whatever
> primer is recommended on the can of paint chosen"?
>
> Thanks!
>
I have done a lot of trim painting and this type painting. I would
suggest a premium alkyd oil based paint. I also suggest that you prime
the wood and follow that with a light sanding to smooth the surface. I
have had no issue with using a water based primer for an oil based
paint, but water based does raise the grain hence lightly sanding the
primed surface before painting final coat.
I have had the best luck with Sherwin Williams top of the lines paints.
For small areas I use a 3" Purdy or Wooster synthetic brush. For large
flat areas I use the 1" X 4" closed foam rollers.
Above all don't over work the surface. If you end up with thing spots
reapply after the paint had dried over night or until no longer tacky.
With any paint I would suggest reading the directions for cure time and
when you can use it. Latex paints, being plasticy, seem to always stick
to what ever you set on them, especially the enamels.
On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 11:49:58 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 1/28/18 11:01 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> I'm looking for suggestions on paint for my bookcase project.
>>
>> The base cabinets and bookcases are being built from poplar plywood with
>> poplar face frames, door frames and edging.
>>
>> For the past year or so I've used Benjamin Moore's Advance line of paint
>> on a few projects but I'm a little concerned about some of the reviews
>> I've read recently regarding longevity. I also agree with the reviews that
>> say it can be a little hard to work with (orange peel, hard to re-work
>> if a drip appears, etc.) When it works, it's really good looking paint,
>> but I've not used it for anything this big before.
>>
>> There will be lots of brush work and (hopefully) rolling on the wide
>> areas. I am by no means an expert painter, so ease of application is
>> kind of important.
>>
>> Cure time is also a question. I don't want to want to wait weeks to put
>> the bookcases to use (of course I will if I have to) so if anyone has
>> thoughts on that (and I'm sure your do) please toss them in too. Advance
>> has been noted to have a fairly long cure time.
>>
>> We might as well discuss primer also. It is as simple as "use whatever
>> primer is recommended on the can of paint chosen"?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>
>I am by no means a painting expert, but I've learn some things every
>time I do another set of bookcases.
>
>1. Flood additives. <https://www.flood.com/products/paint-additives>
>These are awesome in making the paint go on smoothly and level out
>brush/roller marks.
I'll definitely second the Flood Floetrol recommendation.
For base cabinets I've found a Melamine paint to work very well. I
think it was CIL, can't remember for sure - but it's a water based
alkyd that flows out very well, leaving a nice "sheen" - not a high
gloss, but not an eggshell either. REALLY nice for cabinetry.
It dried "hard" like an enamel, not gooey like some latex.
>
>2. Latex paint on shelves always seems "sticky" to me, forever. It
>always seems to grab what's put down on it. If someone knows of a paint
>that doesn't do that, I'm all ears.
>
>3. Zinsser B-I-N, a shellac-base primer-sealer. It's not cheap, but
>it's awesome.
>Last time I did shelves in white, I used Zinsser B-I-N on the shelves
>and nothing else. I built up about 3 coats and it fine sanded so
>smooth, it was almost semi-gloss. But that stuff dries much harder than
>latex and never feels sticky afterwards. It also dries very fast. You
>can build up 3 coats in a day.
On 1/28/18 11:01 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> I'm looking for suggestions on paint for my bookcase project.
>
> The base cabinets and bookcases are being built from poplar plywood with
> poplar face frames, door frames and edging.
>
> For the past year or so I've used Benjamin Moore's Advance line of paint
> on a few projects but I'm a little concerned about some of the reviews
> I've read recently regarding longevity. I also agree with the reviews that
> say it can be a little hard to work with (orange peel, hard to re-work
> if a drip appears, etc.) When it works, it's really good looking paint,
> but I've not used it for anything this big before.
>
> There will be lots of brush work and (hopefully) rolling on the wide
> areas. I am by no means an expert painter, so ease of application is
> kind of important.
>
> Cure time is also a question. I don't want to want to wait weeks to put
> the bookcases to use (of course I will if I have to) so if anyone has
> thoughts on that (and I'm sure your do) please toss them in too. Advance
> has been noted to have a fairly long cure time.
>
> We might as well discuss primer also. It is as simple as "use whatever
> primer is recommended on the can of paint chosen"?
>
> Thanks!
>
I am by no means a painting expert, but I've learn some things every
time I do another set of bookcases.
1. Flood additives. <https://www.flood.com/products/paint-additives>
These are awesome in making the paint go on smoothly and level out
brush/roller marks.
2. Latex paint on shelves always seems "sticky" to me, forever. It
always seems to grab what's put down on it. If someone knows of a paint
that doesn't do that, I'm all ears.
3. Zinsser B-I-N, a shellac-base primer-sealer. It's not cheap, but
it's awesome.
Last time I did shelves in white, I used Zinsser B-I-N on the shelves
and nothing else. I built up about 3 coats and it fine sanded so
smooth, it was almost semi-gloss. But that stuff dries much harder than
latex and never feels sticky afterwards. It also dries very fast. You
can build up 3 coats in a day.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 1/28/18 1:16 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 11:49:58 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/28/18 11:01 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> I'm looking for suggestions on paint for my bookcase project.
>>>
>>> The base cabinets and bookcases are being built from poplar plywood with
>>> poplar face frames, door frames and edging.
>>>
>>> For the past year or so I've used Benjamin Moore's Advance line of paint
>>> on a few projects but I'm a little concerned about some of the reviews
>>> I've read recently regarding longevity. I also agree with the reviews that
>>> say it can be a little hard to work with (orange peel, hard to re-work
>>> if a drip appears, etc.) When it works, it's really good looking paint,
>>> but I've not used it for anything this big before.
>>>
>>> There will be lots of brush work and (hopefully) rolling on the wide
>>> areas. I am by no means an expert painter, so ease of application is
>>> kind of important.
>>>
>>> Cure time is also a question. I don't want to want to wait weeks to put
>>> the bookcases to use (of course I will if I have to) so if anyone has
>>> thoughts on that (and I'm sure your do) please toss them in too. Advance
>>> has been noted to have a fairly long cure time.
>>>
>>> We might as well discuss primer also. It is as simple as "use whatever
>>> primer is recommended on the can of paint chosen"?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>
>> I am by no means a painting expert, but I've learn some things every
>> time I do another set of bookcases.
>>
>> 1. Flood additives. <https://www.flood.com/products/paint-additives>
>> These are awesome in making the paint go on smoothly and level out
>> brush/roller marks.
>
> I'll definitely second the Flood Floetrol recommendation.
>
> For base cabinets I've found a Melamine paint to work very well. I
> think it was CIL, can't remember for sure - but it's a water based
> alkyd that flows out very well, leaving a nice "sheen" - not a high
> gloss, but not an eggshell either. REALLY nice for cabinetry.
>
> It dried "hard" like an enamel, not gooey like some latex.
Would you mind pointing to a link that might have more info or a similar
product?
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 09:01:26 -0800 (PST)
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> reviews that say it can be a little hard to work with (orange peel,
> hard to re-work if a drip appears, etc.) When it works, it's really
thought orange peel is a function of paint amount and not the paint
ambient air temp probably has a role too
> There will be lots of brush work and (hopefully) rolling on the wide
> areas. I am by no means an expert painter, so ease of application is
> kind of important.
why not spray it on or get the small diameter roller with the fine
nap
> Cure time is also a question. I don't want to want to wait weeks to
read the label as most have comprehensive info on application
> We might as well discuss primer also. It is as simple as "use whatever
> primer is recommended on the can of paint chosen"?
primer usually cheaper and usually the way to go