I'm going to build a fancy checker set for my grandfather.
I think this is a good project for me to try my hand with shellac. I've
read lots of stuff about shellac, but I don't know where any of my books
are... :)
Can I expect to buy something acceptable at one of the Borgs, or am I going
to have to mail order from some place fancy? I can't ever remember seeing
anything other than lacquer and poly at the Borgs, but maybe I wasn't
looking in the right place.
I haven't graduated to making a real board yet, so I will probably do
another one of my cheater kerf jobs in the interest of getting this done
while my grandfather still has enough of his wits about him to appreciate
the thing. This technique involves stain, which I know everyone hates.
I did the last board with some old Minwhacks stuff. I got it done, and it
looks pretty decent, but I'd like to try my hand with a better quality
stain this go round. What do the Borgs sell that's worth looking for, that
works well under shellac?
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
> Zinsser Seal Coat has asserted 3 year shelf life. It's a 2# cut
> dewaxed mixture. Local HD hasn't heard of it!
I bought a gallon at a local Sherwin Williams, check the date, they
had 3 cans, two of them were dated just past 3 years, the one I bought
was a year plus. I was in a time crunch, so I purchased it.
It was really easy to apply. I was just doing inside drawers and
inside of a dresser. Good place to practice.
Next time I will purchase flakes and try the purist approach.
Good luck.
-Kevin
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 12:41:36 GMT, Chris Merrill
<[email protected]> wrote:
>If you find it at a hardware store, look for a date on the can - shellac
>has a short shelf life
Does anyone know how to read Liberon's date/batch codes ?
--
Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 09:09:48 -0400, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>I live 200 miles from the nearest woodworking store I know about.
No you don't There's plenty of 'em no further away than your mailbox.
I've gotten some very nice shellac from Liberon-Star
http://www.woodfinishsupply.com/ShellacPricing800.html
But there are lots of other suppliers out there.
-- jc
Published e-mail address is strictly for spam collection.
If e-mailing me, please use jc631 at optonline dot net
Silvan wrote:
> Can I expect to buy something acceptable at one of the Borgs, or am I going
> to have to mail order from some place fancy? I can't ever remember seeing
> anything other than lacquer and poly at the Borgs, but maybe I wasn't
> looking in the right place.
Shellac is available, in flake form, at most (all?) woodworking stores.
If you find it at a hardware store, look for a date on the can - shellac
has a short shelf life (6 mo), which is why most of us mix it fresh from
flakes when needed.
--
************************************
Chris Merrill
[email protected]
(remove the ZZZ to contact me)
************************************
www.woodfinishingsupplies.com has flakes also.
On 8 Oct 2003 11:23:33 -0700, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
wrote:
>
>You can get shellac online at least these places:
>http://www.hockfinishes.com
>http://www.homesteadfinishing.com
Bob Bowles <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Zinsser Seal Coat has asserted 3 year shelf life. It's a 2# cut
> dewaxed mixture. Local HD hasn't heard of it!
All the HDs in my area carry it. Never ask, ya gotta look. It'll be on
the same aisle as the denatured alcohol. I used to have problems with
Zinsser's products (not to mention their M$-like tactics to establish
a shellac monopoly in the U.S.), this stuff is quite good. I've been
using it to seal insides of some old musty drawers and other stuff in
the house. It dries hard and quickly. I still go with my dissolved
flakes for *important* stuff, and of course when ya buy flakes you can
get all sorts of different colors and varieties - the most important
being buttonlac, which is very durable.
The seal coat stuff is an excellent product, IME, and if a can lasts
you more than three years, you are a slacker woodworker and not making
enough stuff. Did I just say that out loud?
You can get shellac online at least these places:
http://www.hockfinishes.com
http://www.homesteadfinishing.com
I know the owners of these places personally, and you won't find
better quality dudes or flakes. I suppose in California, that would be
redundant.
O'Deen - Pasadena, CA
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I'm going to build a fancy checker set for my grandfather.
>
> I think this is a good project for me to try my hand with shellac. I've
> read lots of stuff about shellac, but I don't know where any of my books
> are... :)
>
> Can I expect to buy something acceptable at one of the Borgs, or am I going
> to have to mail order from some place fancy? I can't ever remember seeing
> anything other than lacquer and poly at the Borgs, but maybe I wasn't
> looking in the right place.
>
> I haven't graduated to making a real board yet, so I will probably do
> another one of my cheater kerf jobs in the interest of getting this done
> while my grandfather still has enough of his wits about him to appreciate
> the thing. This technique involves stain, which I know everyone hates.
>
> I did the last board with some old Minwhacks stuff. I got it done, and it
> looks pretty decent, but I'd like to try my hand with a better quality
> stain this go round. What do the Borgs sell that's worth looking for, that
> works well under shellac?
I would mailorder the best stuff you can find. Don't be cheap or lazy
like some people around here are getting. And by all means, haven't we
learned not to take the useless advice of Bay Area Dave?
Will try SW next, thanks. I was fortunate in getting a Qt. can of
Seal Coat during the testing phase and found it user friendly and
effective. I've been mixing flakes with 99% Isopropyl from printer
supply for several years but for quicky jobs Seal Coat would be nice
as an option. Several years ago I built a bunch of drawers next to
clothes closet and wife commented about odorous underwear so 1 coat of
2# shellac fixed it. I coated outsides also as they were in the
garage. Odors migrate.
On 8 Oct 2003 10:59:50 -0700, [email protected] (Kevin) wrote:
>Next time I will purchase flakes and try the purist approach.
Zinsser Seal Coat has asserted 3 year shelf life. It's a 2# cut
dewaxed mixture. Local HD hasn't heard of it!
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 12:41:36 GMT, Chris Merrill
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Shellac is available, in flake form, at most (all?) woodworking stores.
>If you find it at a hardware store, look for a date on the can - shellac
>has a short shelf life (6 mo), which is why most of us mix it fresh from
>flakes when needed.
I use Bonakemi Dri Fast stains and love them. They don't stink to high
heaven like Minwhacks. I have to buy the Bonakemi at a flooring supply
wholesaler, so I can't tell you where to buy the stuff. Others will
chime in shortly with their favorite stains, I'm sure. Dri Fast is oil
modified, doesn't streak and dries quickly. The official word is you
can overcoat in 2 hours. So I wait about 4.
dave
Silvan wrote:
> I'm going to build a fancy checker set for my grandfather.
>
> I think this is a good project for me to try my hand with shellac. I've
> read lots of stuff about shellac, but I don't know where any of my books
> are... :)
>
> Can I expect to buy something acceptable at one of the Borgs, or am I going
> to have to mail order from some place fancy? I can't ever remember seeing
> anything other than lacquer and poly at the Borgs, but maybe I wasn't
> looking in the right place.
>
> I haven't graduated to making a real board yet, so I will probably do
> another one of my cheater kerf jobs in the interest of getting this done
> while my grandfather still has enough of his wits about him to appreciate
> the thing. This technique involves stain, which I know everyone hates.
>
> I did the last board with some old Minwhacks stuff. I got it done, and it
> looks pretty decent, but I'd like to try my hand with a better quality
> stain this go round. What do the Borgs sell that's worth looking for, that
> works well under shellac?
>
"Bob Bowles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Zinsser Seal Coat has asserted 3 year shelf life. It's a 2# cut
> dewaxed mixture. Local HD hasn't heard of it!
>
Must be a local thing as our HD had it. Had to look hare because the help
did not know what it was.
Ed
john carlson wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 09:09:48 -0400, Silvan
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>I live 200 miles from the nearest woodworking store I know about.
>
> No you don't There's plenty of 'em no further away than your mailbox.
> I've gotten some very nice shellac from Liberon-Star
> http://www.woodfinishsupply.com/ShellacPricing800.html
Mail order is something I work hard to avoid though. I'm trying to
ascertain whether I have some viable alternative. Looks like probably not.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
Chris Merrill wrote:
> Shellac is available, in flake form, at most (all?) woodworking stores.
> If you find it at a hardware store, look for a date on the can - shellac
> has a short shelf life (6 mo), which is why most of us mix it fresh from
> flakes when needed.
That's a negative on the Borg then?
I live 200 miles from the nearest woodworking store I know about.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/