My daughter inherited this piece of furniture from the former tenants of the house she is renting at college. She doesn't want it and was thinking of putting it on Craigslist.
We don't know what it is called or what price she should ask. It's solid wood and in really good shape other than some worn paint.
Any suggestions on how to list this unit and for how much would be appreciated.
http://s440.photobucket.com/user/DerbyDad03/slideshow/Furniture
Thanks!
On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 12:40:08 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
> On 08/26/2015 10:42 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 11:17:45 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
> >> On 08/26/2015 10:03 AM, Casper wrote:
> >>>> My daughter inherited this piece of furniture from the former
> >>>> tenants of the house she is renting at college. She doesn't want it
> >>>> and wasthinking of putting it on Craigslist.
> >>>> We don't know what it is called or what price she should ask. It's
> >>>> solid wood and in really good shape other than some worn paint.
> >>>
> >>> Looks like an old Edison Cylinder cabinet. I would have thought phone
> >>> cabinet until I saw the cubbies inside. Too small for record cabinet.
> >> ...
> >>
> >> It's unusual size and I don't know what, precisely, it might have been
> >> intended for, but I'm virtually positive it wasn't/isn't an Edison
> >> cabinet; almost universally they had either cylinder pockets for storing
> >> the cylinders vertically or racks somewhat like a wine rack to hold them
> >> on their side. The pockets are way too big; and I don't think the
> >> drawers tall enough and I presume if they were anything but ordinary
> >> drawers would have been noted and pictures with them open also shown.
> >
> > In fact, I did consider posting a picture of the inside of one drawer. One
> > of the drawers is indeed "ordinary", i.e. just a drawer with 4 sides.
> >
> > The other drawer has dadoes cut into the 4 sides which at one time probably
> > held dividers. If I recall correctly, the drawer could be divided in 6
> > identically sized sections as 2 Rows of 3 when facing the drawer. If it's
> > not 6, then it's just 4. In either case, the dividers are no longer present.
> >
> > I wonder if it could be a knitting cabinet as shown here:
> >
> > http://s3.otherpeoplespixels.com/sites/50819/assets/gM5TY4ziCuOoLYLq.jpg
> >
> > There does not appear to be an organization method for the needles and I'm
> > not sure what the divided drawer would be used for, but I'm not a
> > knitter.
>
> Certainly the cross-cubbies would work but would work for quite a bit of
> other things as well, and as you say, you'd think there would be some
> more obvious arrangements for such. But, who knows?
>
> Don't suppose there are any manufacturer marks or the like...
>
> --
I'll have my daughter check to see if there are any labels, etc. that she can find.
On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 6:02:18 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> Any suggestions on how to list this unit and for how much would be appreciated.
>
> http://s440.photobucket.com/user/DerbyDad03/slideshow/Furniture
>
It might fall into the category of "chimney cabinet". There seems to be various types, some somewhat similar to your cabinet. Shaker, Amish, rural/rustic/primitive?
https://www.google.com/search?q=1930s+chimney+cabinet&rlz=1C1PQHA_enUS574US586&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAmoVChMInNr459fQxwIVhjs-Ch21ZgKk&biw=1280&bih=841
Sonny
"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote:
> DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, I'm not sure I agree. In many barber shops there are mirrors
>> only on one wall. The barber faces the customer away from the mirrors
>> while cutting his hair and then spins him around for the reveal,
>> typically using a hand held mirror to allow the customer to see the
>> back of their own head.
>>
>
> My barber is more cruel than that. He sits me facing the mirror throughout,
> making me agonize over every one of the sparce hairs he's cutting. I think
> he takes a deviant pleasure in that! He next to never spins me and gives me
> a mirror to see the back, unless we're pulling what little bit of hair I
> have left, into a pony tail. Yup - I was a hippie and hair is still
> important to me, even if it is only the little bit that still grows on my
> head...
So after my guy finishes cutting my hair I look down at the hair on the
floor and say, I'm getting a discount, right?
On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 1:14:10 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
> I'd label it vintage/deco commode cabinet/accessory cabinet, put a $125 t=
ag on it and see what happens. If I were a spur-of-the-moment art deco sh=
opper, looking for something quaint, I might snap it up for at least $75, b=
efore someone else gets it. An art deco shopper would know what "commode"=
or "commode cabinet" might imply, more so than an average shopper.
Don't advertise it as "I don't know what kind of cabinet this is"....
Make a declaration as to what it is! Describe or label it, in such a way, =
as to make it desirable.
Sonny=20
>My daughter inherited this piece of furniture from the former tenants of the house she is renting at college. She doesn't want it and was thinking of putting it on Craigslist.
>We don't know what it is called or what price she should ask. It's solid wood and in really good shape other than some worn paint.
Looks like an old Edison Cylinder cabinet. I would have thought phone
cabinet until I saw the cubbies inside. Too small for record cabinet.
>Any suggestions on how to list this unit and for how much would be appreciated.
List as antique. I would start price at $100 and take what I can get.
It's often recommended not to put a price on anything and wait to see
who bites. Check some of the sites on how to post on Craigslist.
If I had the room, I'd take it and redo it for myself as a headphone
and CD cabinet. Been promising myself I would find or make one for a
listening corner in the house.
>http://s440.photobucket.com/user/DerbyDad03/slideshow/Furniture
>Thanks!
>DerbyDad03
On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 2:23:39 PM UTC-4, John Grossbohlin wrote:
> "DerbyDad03" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> >I wonder if it could be a knitting cabinet as shown here:
>
> >http://s3.otherpeoplespixels.com/sites/50819/assets/gM5TY4ziCuOoLYLq.jpg
>
> >There does not appear to be an organization method for the needles and I'm
> >not sure what the divided drawer would be used for, but I'm not a
> >knitter.
>
> I concur that it could be a knitting cabinet. I made one after talking to
> knitters so I have a bit of familiarity with the needs. The top appears to
> have a lip that would keep needles from rolling off and the cubbies would
> store yarn. The one I made was a slightly different concept in that it was
> intended to store a project while it was in process. Having a lot of yard
> storage was not the priority. I'd advertise it as such and see what
> happens... if that doesn't work list it as a lingerie cabinet. ;~)
Alas, there is no lip to prevent objects from rolling off. The piece was painted in such a way that there is a bare strip of wood around the edges of the top and the edges of the face of the drawers. etc.
I can see how the picture makes it look like a lip, but it is nothing more than the green paint ending about a 1/4" from the edge of top and then the tan paint that covers the routed edge detail.
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> My daughter inherited this piece of furniture from the former tenants
> of the house she is renting at college. She doesn't want it and was
> thinking of putting it on Craigslist.
>
> We don't know what it is called or what price she should ask. It's
> solid wood and in really good shape other than some worn paint.
>
> Any suggestions on how to list this unit and for how much would be
> appreciated.
>
> http://s440.photobucket.com/user/DerbyDad03/slideshow/Furniture
>
> Thanks!
>
Personally, I'd call it a cabinet. Are those cubbies inside the door
sized to fit pairs of shoes?
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 11:17:45 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
> On 08/26/2015 10:03 AM, Casper wrote:
> >> My daughter inherited this piece of furniture from the former
> >> tenants of the house she is renting at college. She doesn't want it
> >> and wasthinking of putting it on Craigslist.
> >> We don't know what it is called or what price she should ask. It's
> >> solid wood and in really good shape other than some worn paint.
> >
> > Looks like an old Edison Cylinder cabinet. I would have thought phone
> > cabinet until I saw the cubbies inside. Too small for record cabinet.
> ...
>
> It's unusual size and I don't know what, precisely, it might have been
> intended for, but I'm virtually positive it wasn't/isn't an Edison
> cabinet; almost universally they had either cylinder pockets for storing
> the cylinders vertically or racks somewhat like a wine rack to hold them
> on their side. The pockets are way too big; and I don't think the
> drawers tall enough and I presume if they were anything but ordinary
> drawers would have been noted and pictures with them open also shown.
In fact, I did consider posting a picture of the inside of one drawer. One
of the drawers is indeed "ordinary", i.e. just a drawer with 4 sides.
The other drawer has dadoes cut into the 4 sides which at one time probably
held dividers. If I recall correctly, the drawer could be divided in 6
identically sized sections as 2 Rows of 3 when facing the drawer. If it's
not 6, then it's just 4. In either case, the dividers are no longer present.
I wonder if it could be a knitting cabinet as shown here:
http://s3.otherpeoplespixels.com/sites/50819/assets/gM5TY4ziCuOoLYLq.jpg
There does not appear to be an organization method for the needles and I'm
not sure what the divided drawer would be used for, but I'm not a
knitter.
On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 12:12:28 PM UTC-5, [email protected]=
m wrote:
> Ok, I just stumbled across this thread. A little history here from a Salm=
anson. yes, this piece must date before 1932, when my grandfather and Baum=
ritter parted ways -- My grandfather eventually started a small manufacturi=
ng company of unpainted furniture sold under the Salmanson & Co. and Arvin =
Industry labels. His former partner, as was pointed out, went on to develo=
p what turned into the Ethan Allen company. Bad move Grandpa!
Thanks for the info...unless this is just a convenient way to advertise
your law practice. ;-)
(How exactly did you "stumble" across this thread? This appears to be=20
your first post, unless you normally post under another name.)
On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 10:54:34 PM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:02:14 -0700 (PDT)
> DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>=20
> > My daughter inherited this piece of furniture from the former tenants
> > of the house she is renting at college. She doesn't want it and was
> > thinking of putting it on Craigslist.
>=20
> another guess
> a barber cabinet
>=20
> any evidence where a strop was attached
No
>=20
> is there any evidence on the back that a mirror was attached at one time
No
>=20
> usually there would be a mirror attached
There is no evidence of holes that have been repaired anywhere on the piece=
. Perhaps a hole in the sides and/front could have been filled and painted =
over, but the back is unfinished and there are no "old holes" to be found.
>=20
> you cannot have too many mirrors in a barber shop
Well, I'm not sure I agree. In many barber shops there are mirrors only on =
one wall. The barber faces the customer away from the mirrors while cutting=
his hair and then spins him around for the reveal, typically using a hand =
held mirror to allow the customer to see the back of their own head.
At least that's been my experience in many different barber shops, in many =
different cities, over the years.
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:13:11 -0800, Kevin Miller <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 08/28/2015 07:39 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> My barber is more cruel than that. He sits me facing the mirror throughout,
>> making me agonize over every one of the sparce hairs he's cutting. I think
>> he takes a deviant pleasure in that! He next to never spins me and gives me
>> a mirror to see the back, unless we're pulling what little bit of hair I
>> have left, into a pony tail. Yup - I was a hippie and hair is still
>> important to me, even if it is only the little bit that still grows on my
>> head...
>
>I'm right there with you Mike. I used to bemoan my hair turning white.
> Now I rejoice over every white hair I get to keep!
>
People used to razz me about my white hair. I'd just respond, "it's
still there!". It still is, though doesn't grow very fast anymore.
It's probably been three months since I went to a barber. I'd go back
more often but they cut it too short.
Ok, I just stumbled across this thread. A little history here from a Salman=
son. yes, this piece must date before 1932, when my grandfather and Baumri=
tter parted ways -- My grandfather eventually started a small manufacturing=
company of unpainted furniture sold under the Salmanson & Co. and Arvin In=
dustry labels. His former partner, as was pointed out, went on to develop =
what turned into the Ethan Allen company. Bad move Grandpa!
On 8/27/2015 5:20 PM, dpb wrote:
> On 08/27/2015 3:02 PM, John McCoy wrote:
>> dpb<[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> ...
>
>>>> That date would put it before the era of built-in bathroom
>>>> vanities, so I think whoever it was suggested it was a
>>>> washstand or bathroom cabinet was likely right. The cubbies
>>>> would be for holding towels before use.
>>>
>>> I think you'd have to work real hard to fold a bath towel to get it in
>>> those cubbies...they're going to be<7"W by my scaling from the
>>> measurements given...
>>
>> Wouldn't be a bath towel, just a hand towel. Haven't you
>> ever seen a washstand? Usually there's a basin on top, and
>> a pitcher (an ewer) of water; the idea is to clean the hands
>> and face, not the whole body.
>
> Not 42" tall, no...
>
>> But, this cabinet could be something else completely...it's
>> just a guess, based on the size and timeframe.
>
> Again, too tall for washstand; some sort of storage certainly; I'd guess
> more for clothing, however, but I really don't have any specific use
> that comes to mind given the dimensions and arrangement...
>
> --
>
>
I recently remodeled both bathrooms. The new vanities are higher than
the old standard, they are 36". Agree that 42" would be too high..Would
be OK to put an ice bucket and bottle of bourbon though.
On 08/28/2015 07:39 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> My barber is more cruel than that. He sits me facing the mirror throughout,
> making me agonize over every one of the sparce hairs he's cutting. I think
> he takes a deviant pleasure in that! He next to never spins me and gives me
> a mirror to see the back, unless we're pulling what little bit of hair I
> have left, into a pony tail. Yup - I was a hippie and hair is still
> important to me, even if it is only the little bit that still grows on my
> head...
I'm right there with you Mike. I used to bemoan my hair turning white.
Now I rejoice over every white hair I get to keep!
...Kevin
--
Kevin Miller
Juneau, Alaska
http://www.alaska.net/~atftb
"In the history of the world, no one has ever washed a rented car."
- Lawrence Summers
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> My daughter inherited this piece of furniture from the former tenants
> of the house she is renting at college. She doesn't want it and was
> thinking of putting it on Craigslist.
>
> We don't know what it is called or what price she should ask. It's
> solid wood and in really good shape other than some worn paint.
>
> Any suggestions on how to list this unit and for how much would be
> appreciated.
>
> http://s440.photobucket.com/user/DerbyDad03/slideshow/Furniture
Well, since it has a door on it, I'd call it a cabinet.
It's evidently intended for some specialized purpose, since
it has the cubbies inside. Storing shoes sounds as good a
guess as any.
I think it falls into the "it's worth what someone will pay
for it" category.
If you want to make it worth more, go to Home Depot and get
a $5 cabinet door lock. People love things with locks.
John
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> According to the text of the interview with Nathan Ancell,
> Baumritter's next partner, Salmanson & Baumritter parted ways in 1932.
> That indicates to me that the piece dates back to no later than the
> early '30s, making it an antique. Unfortunately, the label doesn't
> help in determining who made it, only who sold it. The piece appears
> to be numbered, but the label is ripped and hard to read.
That date would put it before the era of built-in bathroom
vanities, so I think whoever it was suggested it was a
washstand or bathroom cabinet was likely right. The cubbies
would be for holding towels before use.
John
dpb <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> On 08/27/2015 10:07 AM, John McCoy wrote:
>> DerbyDad03<[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> According to the text of the interview with Nathan Ancell,
>>> Baumritter's next partner, Salmanson& Baumritter parted ways in
>>> 1932. That indicates to me that the piece dates back to no later
>>> than the early '30s, making it an antique. Unfortunately, the label
>>> doesn't help in determining who made it, only who sold it. The piece
>>> appears to be numbered, but the label is ripped and hard to read.
>>
>> That date would put it before the era of built-in bathroom
>> vanities, so I think whoever it was suggested it was a
>> washstand or bathroom cabinet was likely right. The cubbies
>> would be for holding towels before use.
>
> I think you'd have to work real hard to fold a bath towel to get it in
> those cubbies...they're going to be <7"W by my scaling from the
> measurements given...
Wouldn't be a bath towel, just a hand towel. Haven't you
ever seen a washstand? Usually there's a basin on top, and
a pitcher (an ewer) of water; the idea is to clean the hands
and face, not the whole body.
But, this cabinet could be something else completely...it's
just a guess, based on the size and timeframe.
John
"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, I'm not sure I agree. In many barber shops there are mirrors
>> only on one wall. The barber faces the customer away from the mirrors
>> while cutting his hair and then spins him around for the reveal,
>> typically using a hand held mirror to allow the customer to see the
>> back of their own head.
>>
>
> My barber is more cruel than that. He sits me facing the mirror
> throughout, making me agonize over every one of the sparce hairs he's
> cutting.
Mine is yet even more cruel. She makes me take my glasses
off! So I have no idea what's happening (without glasses my
range of vision is about 3 feet) until the end. Always it's
suspense until I'm allowed to put them on again, and see what
the final result is.
John
On 8/25/2015 7:02 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> My daughter inherited this piece of furniture from the former tenants of the house she is renting at college. She doesn't want it and was thinking of putting it on Craigslist.
>
> We don't know what it is called or what price she should ask. It's solid wood and in really good shape other than some worn paint.
>
> Any suggestions on how to list this unit and for how much would be appreciated.
>
> http://s440.photobucket.com/user/DerbyDad03/slideshow/Furniture
>
> Thanks!
>
Too tall for an end table. Some sort of cabinet with two drawers and door.
If I was selling it I'd list it for $50 and take the first 20 anyone
offers. Reality is, I'd put it out with a "free" sign and be done with
it. Not worth my effort to sell it but I'm not a college student..
On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 12:40:08 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
> On 08/26/2015 10:42 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 11:17:45 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
> >> On 08/26/2015 10:03 AM, Casper wrote:
> >>>> My daughter inherited this piece of furniture from the former
> >>>> tenants of the house she is renting at college. She doesn't want it
> >>>> and wasthinking of putting it on Craigslist.
> >>>> We don't know what it is called or what price she should ask. It's
> >>>> solid wood and in really good shape other than some worn paint.
> >>>
> >>> Looks like an old Edison Cylinder cabinet. I would have thought phone
> >>> cabinet until I saw the cubbies inside. Too small for record cabinet.
> >> ...
> >>
> >> It's unusual size and I don't know what, precisely, it might have been
> >> intended for, but I'm virtually positive it wasn't/isn't an Edison
> >> cabinet; almost universally they had either cylinder pockets for storing
> >> the cylinders vertically or racks somewhat like a wine rack to hold them
> >> on their side. The pockets are way too big; and I don't think the
> >> drawers tall enough and I presume if they were anything but ordinary
> >> drawers would have been noted and pictures with them open also shown.
> >
> > In fact, I did consider posting a picture of the inside of one drawer. One
> > of the drawers is indeed "ordinary", i.e. just a drawer with 4 sides.
> >
> > The other drawer has dadoes cut into the 4 sides which at one time probably
> > held dividers. If I recall correctly, the drawer could be divided in 6
> > identically sized sections as 2 Rows of 3 when facing the drawer. If it's
> > not 6, then it's just 4. In either case, the dividers are no longer present.
> >
> > I wonder if it could be a knitting cabinet as shown here:
> >
> > http://s3.otherpeoplespixels.com/sites/50819/assets/gM5TY4ziCuOoLYLq.jpg
> >
> > There does not appear to be an organization method for the needles and I'm
> > not sure what the divided drawer would be used for, but I'm not a
> > knitter.
>
> Certainly the cross-cubbies would work but would work for quite a bit of
> other things as well, and as you say, you'd think there would be some
> more obvious arrangements for such. But, who knows?
>
> Don't suppose there are any manufacturer marks or the like...
>
> --
My daughter found a partial label on the back of the piece:
http://tinyurl.com/Furniture-Maker-Label
The label reads Salmanson & Baumritter, 1107 Broadway, New York, NY
According to the link below, Sam Salmanson and Ted Baumritter were partners in
"a little selling business...and they sold unfinished furniture and other
houseware items." The business was essentially a drop-shipment jobber business,
not a manufacturing business.
According to the text of the interview with Nathan Ancell, Baumritter's next
partner, Salmanson & Baumritter parted ways in 1932. That indicates to me that
the piece dates back to no later than the early '30s, making it an antique.
Unfortunately, the label doesn't help in determining who made it, only who sold
it. The piece appears to be numbered, but the label is ripped and hard to read.
BTW...The T. Baumritter Company eventually evolved from a drop-shipment company
into the furniture manufacturer we know today as Ethan Allen. I found the
following interview absolutely fascinating. Nathan Ancell relates all of the
changes the company went through over years, including the WW-II period when
they made coffins and crosses for the Navy. They also made life rafts for the
Liberty ships and then struggled to stay in business after the war end as they
transitioned back to a company that manufactured civilian goods. Nathan
describes how the concept of the Ethan Allan galleries was developed and how
his company changed the furniture business.
http://www.furniturehalloffame.com/oral_history.aspx?id=43
On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 10:54:34 PM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:02:14 -0700 (PDT)
> DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > My daughter inherited this piece of furniture from the former tenants
> > of the house she is renting at college. She doesn't want it and was
> > thinking of putting it on Craigslist.
>
> another guess
> a barber cabinet
>
I did not mean to imply in my previous post that you are incorrect. I DAGS for images of barber cabinets and cubbies and other small storage areas were a common feature, as was the tall, narrow design.
Your guess has merit.
> any evidence where a strop was attached
>
> is there any evidence on the back that a mirror was attached at one time
>
> usually there would be a mirror attached
>
> you cannot have too many mirrors in a barber shop
On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 3:29:15 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
> On 08/26/2015 7:07 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> ...
>
> OK, showed your picksures to the missus who's got a lot of time-in-grade
> in anteeky stores -- she's in agreement it's a somewhat odd piece given
> the dimensions. Her opinion was if it weren't for the cubbies it'd be a
> pretty good bet as a lingerie chest; with 'em she's also at a loss for a
> guess at a specific-function...
>
> --
I found a website called Picked Vintage that has some Baumritter pieces for sale. I sent them an email with a link to the slideshow of my piece, asking for some help in identifying its purpose.
We'll see if they can help...or even respond.
On 8/29/2015 9:16 AM, Leon wrote:
> "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Well, I'm not sure I agree. In many barber shops there are mirrors
>>> only on one wall. The barber faces the customer away from the mirrors
>>> while cutting his hair and then spins him around for the reveal,
>>> typically using a hand held mirror to allow the customer to see the
>>> back of their own head.
>>>
>>
>> My barber is more cruel than that. He sits me facing the mirror throughout,
>> making me agonize over every one of the sparce hairs he's cutting. I think
>> he takes a deviant pleasure in that! He next to never spins me and gives me
>> a mirror to see the back, unless we're pulling what little bit of hair I
>> have left, into a pony tail. Yup - I was a hippie and hair is still
>> important to me, even if it is only the little bit that still grows on my
>> head...
>
>
> So after my guy finishes cutting my hair I look down at the hair on the
> floor and say, I'm getting a discount, right?
>
You need a barber? I've not seen one in 10 years. A Whal trimmer keeps
the perimeter short. That is all that is needed.
On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 6:02:18 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> http://s440.photobucket.com/user/DerbyDad03/slideshow/Furniture
>=20
To me, it appears to be a variation of an old style commode cabinet, commod=
e type cabinet. Historically, most commodes were wider, than tall, but no=
t all.
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=3D1C1PQHA_enUS574US586&es_sm=3D122&biw=3D=
1280&bih=3D841&tbm=3Disch&sa=3D1&q=3Dcommode+cabinet&oq=3Dcommode+cabinet&g=
s_l=3Dimg.12..0l2j0i5i30l3.20906.35424.0.44276.22.17.0.0.0.0.184.1836.0j14.=
14.0....0...1.1.64.img..9.13.1710.jT1cvjQ2reQ#imgrc=3D_
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=3D1C1PQHA_enUS574US586&es_sm=3D122&biw=3D=
1280&bih=3D841&tbm=3Disch&sa=3D1&q=3Dantique+commode+cabinet&oq=3Dantique+c=
ommode+cabinet&gs_l=3Dimg.12..0.222038.227248.0.230283.8.3.0.0.0.0.248.248.=
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Otherwise, it kinna looks like what I might think would be used in a GP doc=
tor's office, long ago... a simple accessory cabinet, of some sort, ..... i=
n any old office setting, rather than in a home setting.
Seems the design/style would not quite fit/coordinate into today's home fur=
nishings, other than some type of stand-alone decor piece, or for displayin=
g decor pieces relative to a past time period. It's a neat piece and, if =
I were to use it, I would try to adapt it to, use it for, some sort of acce=
ssory storage cabinet in the shop (upholstery or wood), rather than in the =
home.
I'd label it vintage/deco commode cabinet/accessory cabinet, put a $125 tag=
on it and see what happens. If I were a spur-of-the-moment art deco shop=
per, looking for something quaint, I might snap it up for at least $75, bef=
ore someone else gets it. An art deco shopper would know what "commode" o=
r "commode cabinet" might imply, more so than an average shopper.
Sonny
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> writes:
>On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 12:12:28 PM UTC-5, [email protected]=
>m wrote:
>> Ok, I just stumbled across this thread. A little history here from a Salm=
>anson. yes, this piece must date before 1932, when my grandfather and Baum=
>ritter parted ways -- My grandfather eventually started a small manufacturi=
>ng company of unpainted furniture sold under the Salmanson & Co. and Arvin =
>Industry labels. His former partner, as was pointed out, went on to develo=
>p what turned into the Ethan Allen company. Bad move Grandpa!
>
>Thanks for the info...unless this is just a convenient way to advertise
>your law practice. ;-)
>
>(How exactly did you "stumble" across this thread? This appears to be=20
>your first post, unless you normally post under another name.)
probably a vanity search.
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/25/2015 7:02 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> My daughter inherited this piece of furniture from the former
>> tenants of the house she is renting at college. She doesn't want it
>> and was thinking of putting it on Craigslist. We don't know what it is
>> called or what price she should ask. It's
>> solid wood and in really good shape other than some worn paint. Any
>> suggestions on how to list this unit and for how much would be
>> appreciated.
>> http://s440.photobucket.com/user/DerbyDad03/slideshow/Furniture
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>
> Too tall for an end table. Some sort of cabinet with two drawers and
> door.
> If I was selling it I'd list it for $50 and take the first 20 anyone
> offers. Reality is, I'd put it out with a "free" sign and be done
> with it. Not worth my effort to sell it but I'm not a college
> student..
Geeze Edwin - I was going to say the very same thing, but didn't. Glad you
did.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 8/25/2015 4:02 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> My daughter inherited this piece of furniture from the former tenants of the house she is renting at college. She doesn't want it and was thinking of putting it on Craigslist.
>
> We don't know what it is called or what price she should ask. It's solid wood and in really good shape other than some worn paint.
>
> Any suggestions on how to list this unit and for how much would be appreciated.
>
> http://s440.photobucket.com/user/DerbyDad03/slideshow/Furniture
>
> Thanks!
Reservation desk for a restaurant?
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/25/2015 7:02 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> My daughter inherited this piece of furniture from the former tenants
>> of the house she is renting at college. She doesn't want it and was
>> thinking of putting it on Craigslist.
>>
>> We don't know what it is called or what price she should ask. It's
>> solid wood and in really good shape other than some worn paint.
>>
>> Any suggestions on how to list this unit and for how much would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> http://s440.photobucket.com/user/DerbyDad03/slideshow/Furniture
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>
> Too tall for an end table. Some sort of cabinet with two drawers and
> door.
>
> If I was selling it I'd list it for $50 and take the first 20 anyone
> offers. Reality is, I'd put it out with a "free" sign and be done
> with it. Not worth my effort to sell it but I'm not a college student..
There was unofficial "trading" at various places I've lived. The idea
was to set stuff you didn't need near the community refuse area. I got a
bathroom stand I needed that way, and I gave away numerous items too.
Many 18-20 year olds don't have extra money to waste on "stuff". The
bathroom stand I borrowed is probably still in use by a student
somewhere, less than a mile from where I left it...lol
On 08/26/2015 10:03 AM, Casper wrote:
>> My daughter inherited this piece of furniture from the former
>> tenants of the house she is renting at college. She doesn't want it
>> and wasthinking of putting it on Craigslist.
>> We don't know what it is called or what price she should ask. It's
>> solid wood and in really good shape other than some worn paint.
>
> Looks like an old Edison Cylinder cabinet. I would have thought phone
> cabinet until I saw the cubbies inside. Too small for record cabinet.
...
It's unusual size and I don't know what, precisely, it might have been
intended for, but I'm virtually positive it wasn't/isn't an Edison
cabinet; almost universally they had either cylinder pockets for storing
the cylinders vertically or racks somewhat like a wine rack to hold them
on their side. The pockets are way too big; and I don't think the
drawers tall enough and I presume if they were anything but ordinary
drawers would have been noted and pictures with them open also shown.
It doesn't look _that_ old to me, either, but in today's climate
anything 50s or 60s or older would qualify as "antique"... :)
--
On 08/26/2015 10:42 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 11:17:45 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
>> On 08/26/2015 10:03 AM, Casper wrote:
>>>> My daughter inherited this piece of furniture from the former
>>>> tenants of the house she is renting at college. She doesn't want it
>>>> and wasthinking of putting it on Craigslist.
>>>> We don't know what it is called or what price she should ask. It's
>>>> solid wood and in really good shape other than some worn paint.
>>>
>>> Looks like an old Edison Cylinder cabinet. I would have thought phone
>>> cabinet until I saw the cubbies inside. Too small for record cabinet.
>> ...
>>
>> It's unusual size and I don't know what, precisely, it might have been
>> intended for, but I'm virtually positive it wasn't/isn't an Edison
>> cabinet; almost universally they had either cylinder pockets for storing
>> the cylinders vertically or racks somewhat like a wine rack to hold them
>> on their side. The pockets are way too big; and I don't think the
>> drawers tall enough and I presume if they were anything but ordinary
>> drawers would have been noted and pictures with them open also shown.
>
> In fact, I did consider posting a picture of the inside of one drawer. One
> of the drawers is indeed "ordinary", i.e. just a drawer with 4 sides.
>
> The other drawer has dadoes cut into the 4 sides which at one time probably
> held dividers. If I recall correctly, the drawer could be divided in 6
> identically sized sections as 2 Rows of 3 when facing the drawer. If it's
> not 6, then it's just 4. In either case, the dividers are no longer present.
>
> I wonder if it could be a knitting cabinet as shown here:
>
> http://s3.otherpeoplespixels.com/sites/50819/assets/gM5TY4ziCuOoLYLq.jpg
>
> There does not appear to be an organization method for the needles and I'm
> not sure what the divided drawer would be used for, but I'm not a
> knitter.
Certainly the cross-cubbies would work but would work for quite a bit of
other things as well, and as you say, you'd think there would be some
more obvious arrangements for such. But, who knows?
Don't suppose there are any manufacturer marks or the like...
--
On 8/25/2015 9:01 PM, Dangre wrote:
> On 8/25/2015 4:02 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> My daughter inherited this piece of furniture from the former tenants of
>> the house she is renting at college. She doesn't want it and was thinking
>> of putting it on Craigslist.
>>
>> We don't know what it is called or what price she should ask. It's solid
>> wood and in really good shape other than some worn paint.
>>
>> Any suggestions on how to list this unit and for how much would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> http://s440.photobucket.com/user/DerbyDad03/slideshow/Furniture
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> Reservation desk for a restaurant?
Could conceivably be that. Cubbyholes for menus? Of course I'd have
expected them to be above the drawers in that use, possibly with a sloped
top surface.
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:02:14 -0700 (PDT)
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> We don't know what it is called or what price she should ask. It's
> solid wood and in really good shape other than some worn paint.
one vote for a knitting cabinet
On 08/26/2015 7:07 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 12:40:08 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
...
>> Don't suppose there are any manufacturer marks or the like...
>>
>> --
>
> My daughter found a partial label on the back of the piece:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/Furniture-Maker-Label
>
> The label reads Salmanson& Baumritter, 1107 Broadway, New York, NY
>
> According to the link below, Sam Salmanson and Ted Baumritter were partners in
> "a little selling business...and they sold unfinished furniture and other
> houseware items." The business was essentially a drop-shipment jobber business,
> not a manufacturing business.
>
> According to the text of the interview with Nathan Ancell, Baumritter's next
> partner, Salmanson& Baumritter parted ways in 1932. That indicates to me that
> the piece dates back to no later than the early '30s, making it an antique.
> Unfortunately, the label doesn't help in determining who made it, only who sold
> it. The piece appears to be numbered, but the label is ripped and hard to read.
>
> BTW...The T. Baumritter Company eventually evolved from a drop-shipment company
> into the furniture manufacturer we know today as Ethan Allen. I found the
> following interview absolutely fascinating. Nathan Ancell relates all of the
> changes the company went through over years, including the WW-II period when
> they made coffins and crosses for the Navy. They also made life rafts for the
> Liberty ships and then struggled to stay in business after the war end as they
> transitioned back to a company that manufactured civilian goods. Nathan
> describes how the concept of the Ethan Allan galleries was developed and how
> his company changed the furniture business.
>
> http://www.furniturehalloffame.com/oral_history.aspx?id=43
That is interesting; I'd never delved into history of E-A and hadn't run
into S&B. It's in excellent shape for the age (altho, of course, 80-90
isn't _that_ old, but a lot of stuff has been sorely abused long before
then it its lifetime).
I still don't know what one would call it; while it's a long shot if one
could find any old S&B catalogs online that'd be a shot at identifying
it. No idea how they marketed so whether there were such to find I
don't know, either...
Is there an antique consignment shop available where the piece is that
you might trust to do a reasonable job of selling it for your daughter,
perhaps? _Might_ get to a more attune market that way than just random
Craigs List bargain hunter...and a knowledgeable person just _might_
even know what it is... :)
--
On 08/27/2015 10:07 AM, John McCoy wrote:
> DerbyDad03<[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> According to the text of the interview with Nathan Ancell,
>> Baumritter's next partner, Salmanson& Baumritter parted ways in 1932.
>> That indicates to me that the piece dates back to no later than the
>> early '30s, making it an antique. Unfortunately, the label doesn't
>> help in determining who made it, only who sold it. The piece appears
>> to be numbered, but the label is ripped and hard to read.
>
> That date would put it before the era of built-in bathroom
> vanities, so I think whoever it was suggested it was a
> washstand or bathroom cabinet was likely right. The cubbies
> would be for holding towels before use.
I think you'd have to work real hard to fold a bath towel to get it in
those cubbies...they're going to be <7"W by my scaling from the
measurements given...
--
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:02:14 -0700 (PDT)
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Any suggestions on how to list this unit and for how much would be
> appreciated.
you had to know that there would be no consensus here so the only thing
to do is to take it to the antiques roadshow
they will get to the bottom of it
maybe embellish the story a little here and there to improve chance of
getting selected
On 08/27/2015 3:02 PM, John McCoy wrote:
> dpb<[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
...
>>> That date would put it before the era of built-in bathroom
>>> vanities, so I think whoever it was suggested it was a
>>> washstand or bathroom cabinet was likely right. The cubbies
>>> would be for holding towels before use.
>>
>> I think you'd have to work real hard to fold a bath towel to get it in
>> those cubbies...they're going to be<7"W by my scaling from the
>> measurements given...
>
> Wouldn't be a bath towel, just a hand towel. Haven't you
> ever seen a washstand? Usually there's a basin on top, and
> a pitcher (an ewer) of water; the idea is to clean the hands
> and face, not the whole body.
Not 42" tall, no...
> But, this cabinet could be something else completely...it's
> just a guess, based on the size and timeframe.
Again, too tall for washstand; some sort of storage certainly; I'd guess
more for clothing, however, but I really don't have any specific use
that comes to mind given the dimensions and arrangement...
--
On 08/26/2015 7:07 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
...
OK, showed your picksures to the missus who's got a lot of time-in-grade
in anteeky stores -- she's in agreement it's a somewhat odd piece given
the dimensions. Her opinion was if it weren't for the cubbies it'd be a
pretty good bet as a lingerie chest; with 'em she's also at a loss for a
guess at a specific-function...
--
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:02:14 -0700 (PDT)
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> My daughter inherited this piece of furniture from the former tenants
> of the house she is renting at college. She doesn't want it and was
> thinking of putting it on Craigslist.
another guess
a barber cabinet
any evidence where a strop was attached
is there any evidence on the back that a mirror was attached at one time
usually there would be a mirror attached
you cannot have too many mirrors in a barber shop
DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
> Well, I'm not sure I agree. In many barber shops there are mirrors
> only on one wall. The barber faces the customer away from the mirrors
> while cutting his hair and then spins him around for the reveal,
> typically using a hand held mirror to allow the customer to see the
> back of their own head.
>
My barber is more cruel than that. He sits me facing the mirror throughout,
making me agonize over every one of the sparce hairs he's cutting. I think
he takes a deviant pleasure in that! He next to never spins me and gives me
a mirror to see the back, unless we're pulling what little bit of hair I
have left, into a pony tail. Yup - I was a hippie and hair is still
important to me, even if it is only the little bit that still grows on my
head...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 20:23:08 -0700 (PDT)
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is no evidence of holes that have been repaired anywhere on the
> piece. Perhaps a hole in the sides and/front could have been filled
> and painted over, but the back is unfinished and there are no "old
> holes" to be found.
i did notice the left side of the top drawer was mangled somewhat
if you have a mass spectrometer laying around maybe scrape some of
those stains and determine their composition
> Well, I'm not sure I agree. In many barber shops there are mirrors
still has not changed my opinion as a customer
the more mirrors the better
that way you can watch the goings on at other stations without
turning your head
much amusement over the years
"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I wonder if it could be a knitting cabinet as shown here:
>http://s3.otherpeoplespixels.com/sites/50819/assets/gM5TY4ziCuOoLYLq.jpg
>There does not appear to be an organization method for the needles and I'm
>not sure what the divided drawer would be used for, but I'm not a
>knitter.
I concur that it could be a knitting cabinet. I made one after talking to
knitters so I have a bit of familiarity with the needs. The top appears to
have a lip that would keep needles from rolling off and the cubbies would
store yarn. The one I made was a slightly different concept in that it was
intended to store a project while it was in process. Having a lot of yard
storage was not the priority. I'd advertise it as such and see what
happens... if that doesn't work list it as a lingerie cabinet. ;~)
On 8/25/2015 7:05 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 8/25/2015 7:02 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> My daughter inherited this piece of furniture from the former
>>> tenants of the house she is renting at college. She doesn't want it
>>> and was thinking of putting it on Craigslist. We don't know what it is
>>> called or what price she should ask. It's
>>> solid wood and in really good shape other than some worn paint. Any
>>> suggestions on how to list this unit and for how much would be
>>> appreciated.
>>> http://s440.photobucket.com/user/DerbyDad03/slideshow/Furniture
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>
>> Too tall for an end table. Some sort of cabinet with two drawers and
>> door.
>> If I was selling it I'd list it for $50 and take the first 20 anyone
>> offers. Reality is, I'd put it out with a "free" sign and be done
>> with it. Not worth my effort to sell it but I'm not a college
>> student..
>
> Geeze Edwin - I was going to say the very same thing, but didn't. Glad you
> did.
>
Lingerie cabinet? Sometimes a piece of furniture is worth exactly what
you paid for it. Other times, it unique as to purpose and your needs so
as to be invaluable.