I've got a problem so I'm turning to the group that I trust with
suggestions.
I've got a toilet tank that cracked and I need to replace, here's the
questions I have.
Can I buy just a replacement tank (I think so), and do they all have
the
same spacing for the tank bolts and water flow opening?
Do new tanks come with all the "internals" or will I have to buy them
separately?
(Internals = flush lever, flush bulb, fill stand, seal between tank
and stool, etc.)
Thanks for your help, this problem is in another state and I'm trying
to plan
a repair and have all the parts with me when I arrive.
Les
On Mar 23, 2:14=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:48:08 -0700 (PDT), the infamous LesT
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
> >I've got a problem so I'm turning to the group that I trust with
> >suggestions.
>
> >I've got a toilet tank that cracked and I need to replace, here's the
> >questions I have.
>
> >Can I buy just a replacement tank (I think so), and do they all have
> >the
> >same spacing for the tank bolts and water flow opening?
>
> Yes, for the most part. There are two-bolt and 3-bolt patterns,
> though.
>
> >Do new tanks come with all the "internals" or will I have to buy them
> >separately?
> >(Internals =3D flush lever, flush bulb, fill stand, seal between tank
> >and stool, etc.)
>
> Most do, but check the box before leaving the store. Some are supposed
> to have all the innards but don't.
>
> >Thanks for your help, this problem is in another state and I'm trying
> >to plan
> >a repair and have all the parts with me when I arrive.
>
> Go to Lowes and grab a Toilet-in-a-box for $80. It even has the wax
> ring and a seat. =A0(or used to) =A0It won't be too much more than a tank=
,
> either. =A0I've installed 4 of these so far and they're great.
>
> --
> =A0 If we attend continually and promptly to the little that we can do, w=
e
> shall ere long be surprised to find how little remains that we cannot do.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -- Samuel Butler
Thanks to all who replied - I think I'll go with the total
replacement.
I appreciate the help!
Les
--
Success is -
doing what has to be done,
when it has to be done,
the way it ought to be done,
whether you want to do it or not.
On Mar 22, 6:15=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
*SNIP of a good reason to buy new*
> After chasing around without finding the correct parts, you still end
> up buying a new toilet would be a lose lose solution.
>
> Better to bite the bullet up front IMHO.
What Lew said. In my days of working with landlords, they would do
all kinds of things to save a buck.
We saw replacement tanks that didn't fit the bowls correctly and
leaked. We saw tanks that didn't hold enough water to get the toilet
to flush correctly. Then there were the old, huge tanks that would
flush the little bowled pots for minutes.
Different sized tanks sometimes made it hard for solid material
disposal, if you get my drift.
A new toilet isn't that much if you consider that you won't have to do
it twice. Many of the kits have everything in them, and all you have
to do is bolt the tank to the bowl and put on a seat. Just make sure
you get your new wax bowl ring and floor (flange bolts for the bowl)
and you are on your way.
Robert
LesT <[email protected]> wrote in news:4a52eb38-8e0c-426e-bffe-cb7a66efc602
@g19g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:
> I've got a problem so I'm turning to the group that I trust with
> suggestions.
>
> I've got a toilet tank that cracked and I need to replace, here's the
> questions I have.
>
> Can I buy just a replacement tank (I think so), and do they all have
> the
> same spacing for the tank bolts and water flow opening?
>
> Do new tanks come with all the "internals" or will I have to buy them
> separately?
> (Internals = flush lever, flush bulb, fill stand, seal between tank
> and stool, etc.)
>
> Thanks for your help, this problem is in another state and I'm trying
> to plan
> a repair and have all the parts with me when I arrive.
>
> Les
They do sell the tanks separately from the toilets, so they may fit
multiple models. Take a note of any information you can find on your
toilet (manufacturer's name is usually on the bowl behind the seat) to
the local home improvement/hardware store and ask them. (Or look at the
manufacturer's website.)
Most the internals are universal, but if you've got the tank off anyway
you might as well replace the flush valve. If it goes later, you'll have
to take the tank back off. The $10 the replacement kit costs will save
at least 2 hours of work later.
Take a look at the local Menards ads. They might still have their
toilets (complete) for $48. The tank usually costs that much anyway,
might as well get the whole kit.
Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
"LesT" wrote:
> I've got a problem so I'm turning to the group that I trust with
> suggestions.
>
> I've got a toilet tank that cracked and I need to replace, here's
> the
> questions I have.
>
> Can I buy just a replacement tank (I think so), and do they all have
> the
> same spacing for the tank bolts and water flow opening?
>
> Do new tanks come with all the "internals" or will I have to buy
> them
> separately?
> (Internals = flush lever, flush bulb, fill stand, seal between tank
> and stool, etc.)
>
> Thanks for your help, this problem is in another state and I'm
> trying
> to plan
> a repair and have all the parts with me when I arrive.
-------------------------------------
IMHO, the controlling parameter in the above is DISTANCE.
Trying to remotely engineer a solution can be tricky, but especially
for an item like a toilet.
Toilets are undergoing continual updates in order to reduce water
consumption while improving performance.
You are trying to find "Bits & Pieces" for an older toilet BEFORE you
get to a distant jobsite.
At best, a tricky venture.
The price of a complete new toilet starts looking pretty good,
especially when you start adding up travel time and costs for an
automobile($0.50/mile currently) to get to the job site, a few trips
to the local "Old Toilets Store", if one exists, for parts you can't
find at the local big box store, etc.
After chasing around without finding the correct parts, you still end
up buying a new toilet would be a lose lose solution.
Better to bite the bullet up front IMHO.
A few years working in a hardware store and having customers walk in
on Saturday morning with a handful of parts and pieces in hand and
that "Can you help me?" look on their faces probably has an impact on
my post.
BTDT.
Lew
"LesT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4a52eb38-8e0c-426e-bffe-cb7a66efc602@g19g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
> I've got a problem so I'm turning to the group that I trust with
> suggestions.
>
> I've got a toilet tank that cracked and I need to replace,
> here's the
> questions I have.
>
> Can I buy just a replacement tank (I think so), and do they all
> have
> the
> same spacing for the tank bolts and water flow opening?
>
> Do new tanks come with all the "internals" or will I have to buy
> them
> separately?
> (Internals = flush lever, flush bulb, fill stand, seal between
> tank
> and stool, etc.)
>
> Thanks for your help, this problem is in another state and I'm
> trying
> to plan
> a repair and have all the parts with me when I arrive.
>
> Les
Some of the bigger and older plumbing firms in your area might
have a "bone yard" of old fixtures, toilets, tubs etc. Try
contacting them.
--
Nonny
Our Congress and White House are like an
overflowing, fetid toilet. It's time to flush it, though
knowing it will soon refill with the same filth. We need
a radical change where the productive people again rule.
Easier to replace the toilet as a unit.Turn off water undo water connection
to tank undo floor bolts, pull old one out.You will need new wax gasket, I
also replace the connection with a braided one since they are cheap and very
flexible and the new toilet you install may need a different length.. You
may be able to get "A Toilet in a Box". It comes with everything you need
,new seat to.(Except the braided line). Don't over tighten any bolts
"LesT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4a52eb38-8e0c-426e-bffe-cb7a66efc602@g19g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
> I've got a problem so I'm turning to the group that I trust with
> suggestions.
>
> I've got a toilet tank that cracked and I need to replace, here's the
> questions I have.
>
> Can I buy just a replacement tank (I think so), and do they all have
> the
> same spacing for the tank bolts and water flow opening?
>
> Do new tanks come with all the "internals" or will I have to buy them
> separately?
> (Internals = flush lever, flush bulb, fill stand, seal between tank
> and stool, etc.)
>
> Thanks for your help, this problem is in another state and I'm trying
> to plan
> a repair and have all the parts with me when I arrive.
>
> Les
On Mar 22, 1:07 pm, "chaniarts" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> are you looking for a tank made from wood? you know this is rec.woodworking,
> right?
>
> perhaps you want to try alt.home.repair instead.
It isn't rec.snottyassedreply, either.
I don't see any harm in casting the net. There are a lot of skilled
repair folks here, professional and non professional.
I don't mind responding to an intelligent question, no matter where it
is posted. As you can see, others don't either.
Robert
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:48:08 -0700 (PDT), the infamous LesT
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>I've got a problem so I'm turning to the group that I trust with
>suggestions.
>
>I've got a toilet tank that cracked and I need to replace, here's the
>questions I have.
>
>Can I buy just a replacement tank (I think so), and do they all have
>the
>same spacing for the tank bolts and water flow opening?
Yes, for the most part. There are two-bolt and 3-bolt patterns,
though.
>Do new tanks come with all the "internals" or will I have to buy them
>separately?
>(Internals = flush lever, flush bulb, fill stand, seal between tank
>and stool, etc.)
Most do, but check the box before leaving the store. Some are supposed
to have all the innards but don't.
>Thanks for your help, this problem is in another state and I'm trying
>to plan
>a repair and have all the parts with me when I arrive.
Go to Lowes and grab a Toilet-in-a-box for $80. It even has the wax
ring and a seat. (or used to) It won't be too much more than a tank,
either. I've installed 4 of these so far and they're great.
--
If we attend continually and promptly to the little that we can do, we
shall ere long be surprised to find how little remains that we cannot do.
-- Samuel Butler
LesT wrote:
> I've got a problem so I'm turning to the group that I trust with
> suggestions.
>
> I've got a toilet tank that cracked and I need to replace, here's the
> questions I have.
>
> Can I buy just a replacement tank (I think so), and do they all have
> the
> same spacing for the tank bolts and water flow opening?
>
> Do new tanks come with all the "internals" or will I have to buy them
> separately?
> (Internals = flush lever, flush bulb, fill stand, seal between tank
> and stool, etc.)
>
> Thanks for your help, this problem is in another state and I'm trying
> to plan
> a repair and have all the parts with me when I arrive.
>
> Les
are you looking for a tank made from wood? you know this is rec.woodworking,
right?
perhaps you want to try alt.home.repair instead.
"LesT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4a52eb38-8e0c-426e-bffe-cb7a66efc602@g19g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
> I've got a problem so I'm turning to the group that I trust with
> suggestions.
>
> I've got a toilet tank that cracked and I need to replace, here's the
> questions I have.
>
> Can I buy just a replacement tank (I think so), and do they all have
> the
> same spacing for the tank bolts and water flow opening?
Before we had to save water most all tanks would fit. Now days you better
go back to the particular manufacturer to get the correct one.
>
> Do new tanks come with all the "internals" or will I have to buy them
> separately?
Some do but you should be able to reuse your older innerds.
"LesT" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> Can I buy just a replacement tank (I think so), and do they all have
> the
> same spacing for the tank bolts and water flow opening?
American Standard? Universal Rundle? Kohler? Low flow? Too many variables
to answer.
>
> Thanks for your help, this problem is in another state and I'm trying
> to plan
> a repair and have all the parts with me when I arrive.
>
> Les
How old is the toilet? If fairly new you may be able to get the parts, but
they can vary from brand to brand or model to model for tanks. If it is 10
years or older, I'd plan on buying a whole new toilet and be doe with it for
another 20 or 30 years. No matter how well you plan, something will always
be "not quite".