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Hoyt Weathers

24/08/2004 11:57 AM

OT: windshield ding DIY

This question does not involve wood, but it does involve epoxy.

I have a ding in my windshield which could be covered with a 1 dollar coin. It does
not through to the inside surface and is not in the line of sight. My local glass
place would not repair it because he said the repair would pop out when I had the
defroster on in the winter.

I would like to put epoxy in the ding. My approach is to cover the pliable epoxy with
a piece of plastic film, carefully roll it flat in stages, let it cure, then remove
the film.

Questions:

1. What common film would not stick to uncured or cured epoxy?

2. Perhaps I could just oil the surface of the film in contact with the epoxy and let
the epoxy cure. Would that work?

Thank you for your forbearance with these OT questions.

Hoyt Weathers

[valid address above]


This topic has 10 replies

DH

Dave Hinz

in reply to Hoyt Weathers on 24/08/2004 11:57 AM

24/08/2004 8:24 PM

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 11:57:39 -0500, Hoyt Weathers <[email protected]> wrote:
> This question does not involve wood, but it does involve epoxy.
>
> I have a ding in my windshield which could be covered with a 1 dollar coin.

Check out the Eastwood Catalog - they sell automotive restoration products,
including what you're after.
http://www.eastwoodco.com/ - put windshield into the search box, there you
go. 17 bucks. I've bought a ton of stuff from these guys over the years,
haven't had a bad product or bad service experience yet.

Dave Hinz

DH

Dave Hinz

in reply to Hoyt Weathers on 24/08/2004 11:57 AM

24/08/2004 9:24 PM

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:20:13 -0700, TeamCasa <[email protected]> wrote:
> Replace the windshield - its inevitable - the crack with not stop growing.

Well, there are cracks, and there are self-contained "bullseye" dings.
If the latter, he might be OK.

DH

Dave Hinz

in reply to Hoyt Weathers on 24/08/2004 11:57 AM

25/08/2004 3:01 PM

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 18:51:55 -0500, Hoyt Weathers <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave Hinz wrote:
>
>> http://www.eastwoodco.com/ - put windshield into the search box, there you
>> go. 17 bucks.
>
> Dave, I had to dig for it. Is this the item to which you were directing me?
> http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=2007&itemType=PRODUCT&RS=1&keyword=windshield

Yup, not sure why it didn't come up on the first page of the search for
you, but yes that's the one.

> It sounds like what I need. I will order it. Nothing ventured is nothing gained.

Well, I don't own _this_ item from Eastwood, but I've boughta ton of other
stuff and it's not the JC Whitney class of stuff (read: mostly crap), it's
stuff that actually works. I'd be surprised if it didn't do it for you.

Dave Hinz

HW

Hoyt Weathers

in reply to Hoyt Weathers on 24/08/2004 11:57 AM

24/08/2004 6:51 PM

Dave Hinz wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 11:57:39 -0500, Hoyt Weathers <[email protected]> wrote:
> > This question does not involve wood, but it does involve epoxy.
> >
> > I have a ding in my windshield which could be covered with a 1 dollar coin.
>
> Check out the Eastwood Catalog - they sell automotive restoration products,
> including what you're after.
> http://www.eastwoodco.com/ - put windshield into the search box, there you
> go. 17 bucks. I've bought a ton of stuff from these guys over the years,
> haven't had a bad product or bad service experience yet.
>
> Dave Hinz

Dave, I had to dig for it. Is this the item to which you were directing me?

http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=2007&itemType=PRODUCT&RS=1&keyword=windshield

It sounds like what I need. I will order it. Nothing ventured is nothing gained.

TKX

Hoyt W.



Td

"TeamCasa"

in reply to Hoyt Weathers on 24/08/2004 11:57 AM

24/08/2004 2:20 PM

Replace the windshield - its inevitable - the crack with not stop growing.
Dave


"Hoyt Weathers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This question does not involve wood, but it does involve epoxy.
>
> I have a ding in my windshield which could be covered with a 1 dollar
coin. It does
> not through to the inside surface and is not in the line of sight. My
local glass
> place would not repair it because he said the repair would pop out when I
had the
> defroster on in the winter.
>
> I would like to put epoxy in the ding. My approach is to cover the pliable
epoxy with
> a piece of plastic film, carefully roll it flat in stages, let it cure,
then remove
> the film.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. What common film would not stick to uncured or cured epoxy?
>
> 2. Perhaps I could just oil the surface of the film in contact with the
epoxy and let
> the epoxy cure. Would that work?
>
> Thank you for your forbearance with these OT questions.
>
> Hoyt Weathers
>
> [valid address above]
>

GR

Gerald Ross

in reply to Hoyt Weathers on 24/08/2004 11:57 AM

24/08/2004 5:30 PM

Hoyt Weathers wrote:

> This question does not involve wood, but it does involve epoxy.
>
> I have a ding in my windshield which could be covered with a 1 dollar coin. It does
> not through to the inside surface and is not in the line of sight. My local glass
> place would not repair it because he said the repair would pop out when I had the
> defroster on in the winter.
>
> I would like to put epoxy in the ding. My approach is to cover the pliable epoxy with
> a piece of plastic film, carefully roll it flat in stages, let it cure, then remove
> the film.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. What common film would not stick to uncured or cured epoxy?
>
> 2. Perhaps I could just oil the surface of the film in contact with the epoxy and let
> the epoxy cure. Would that work?
>
> Thank you for your forbearance with these OT questions.
>
> Hoyt Weathers
>
> [valid address above]
>
I bought a kit to fix such a ding several years ago and it worked fine
for as long as I kept the car. As I remember, after the stuff had
hardened it was leveled with a razor blade. BTW, my insurance company
will pay to have this done with no deductible. Maybe yours does too.

--

Gerald Ross, Cochran, GA
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Td

"TeamCasa"

in reply to Hoyt Weathers on 24/08/2004 11:57 AM

25/08/2004 8:00 AM

There are some very rare occasions in which a crack can be temporarily
checked. It involves drilling very small holes (more like a shallow
countersink) at the end of each line and filling the crack with epoxy. I
would like to stress the word temporarily.

Small rock chips, if smoothed and filled, can be much more permanent.

Dave



"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:20:13 -0700, TeamCasa <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Replace the windshield - its inevitable - the crack with not stop
growing.
>
> Well, there are cracks, and there are self-contained "bullseye" dings.
> If the latter, he might be OK.

tt

"toller"

in reply to Hoyt Weathers on 24/08/2004 11:57 AM

24/08/2004 7:32 PM

I haven't any idea if the repair will hold, but epoxy is UV sensitive.

Also, I hope you are talking about laminating epoxy rather than epoxy glue.
The glue will be too thick to get into the crack. (But then the laminating
epoxy will be too thin to stay in place; hmmm)

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to Hoyt Weathers on 24/08/2004 11:57 AM

24/08/2004 8:25 PM


"Hoyt Weathers" <[email protected]> wrote in message ...
> This question does not involve wood, but it does involve epoxy.
>
> I have a ding in my windshield which could be covered with a 1 dollar
coin. It does
> not through to the inside surface and is not in the line of sight. My
local glass
> place would not repair it because he said the repair would pop out when I
had the
> defroster on in the winter.
>

Most dings turn into full fledged cracks under the first extreme weather
condition. Do you have full glass coverage on your insurance? I honestly
doubt that many of us here have better knowledge of fixing that sort of
thing than the pro glass guy. Think of your repair as temporary and hope
it does not go when you least expect it.
Ed

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to Hoyt Weathers on 24/08/2004 11:57 AM

24/08/2004 5:37 PM

Hoyt Weathers wrote:

> This question does not involve wood, but it does involve epoxy.
>
> I have a ding in my windshield which could be covered with a 1 dollar
> coin. It does not through to the inside surface and is not in the line of
> sight. My local glass place would not repair it because he said the repair
> would pop out when I had the defroster on in the winter.
>
> I would like to put epoxy in the ding. My approach is to cover the pliable
> epoxy with a piece of plastic film, carefully roll it flat in stages, let
> it cure, then remove the film.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. What common film would not stick to uncured or cured epoxy?
>
> 2. Perhaps I could just oil the surface of the film in contact with the
> epoxy and let the epoxy cure. Would that work?
>
> Thank you for your forbearance with these OT questions.
>
> Hoyt Weathers
>
> [valid address above]

Spend 8 bucks for a Permatex Windshield Bullseye Repair kit. Have no idea
if it's any good but should be as good as anything else that anybody who's
not a glass expert would recommend.

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)


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